MikeCZAR:
Fact established: They're different.

They aren't.

Possible OPVs for project Biro: All of the following Shipyards have shown interest in Project Biro, and all of the mention OPVs will be build locally.

Pic 1: Veecraft Marine + Navantia (Avante class 3000)
Pic 2: Damen Shipyards (Holland class OPV )
Pic 3: Southern African Shipyards + Germany’s Lurssen Werft (K 130 )
Pic 4: DCNS + KND (Gowind class )

What is Your Favorite?

Henry120:


They aren't.

Only fools cannot note the differences.

MikeCZAR:
Western nations aren't selling lethal weapons to Nigeria.

Your Otomat is expired. Try use it.

Show me proof that it expired, the Latin Americans are still firing their own....and expired missiles are usually removed, Nigeria didn't remove it, same with the Latino navy
.

patches689:


Talk about us attacking you, because you know that we can strike at you and that you cannot strike at us. Hence, we have force projection and you do not

Your pussy cat has 'force projection' into the Lion's den, welcome into your graveyard
.

jl115:
Possible OPVs for project Biro: All of the following Shipyards have shown interest in Project Biro, and all of the mention OPVs will be build locally.

Pic 1: Veecraft Marine + Navantia (Avante class 3000)
Pic 2: Damen Shipyards (Holland class OPV )
Pic 3: Southern African Shipyards + Germany’s Lurssen Werft (K 130 )
Pic 4: DCNS + KND (Gowind class )

What is Your Favorite?

The Holland Class looks sleeker

ActivateKruger:


The Holland Class looks sleeker

haha i agree, its may favorite too, although i think it might be a bit to pricey, and the fact its basically a frigate at 108m(longer than our Valours) so im not sure if its the right option, thus id rather go for the Gowind class or Avante 3000

jl115:

haha i agree, its may favorite too, although i think it might be a bit to pricey, and the fact its basically a frigate at 108m(longer than our Valours) so im not sure if its the right option, thus id rather go for the Gowind class or Avante 3000

I'm interested in seeing what Paramount Group will propose for us.. I would like it to go to a South African company

MikeCZAR:
They're not the same. The only similarity they have is the tube.

One has to be set up for firing, one does not.

You need new eye glasses? The Nigerian photo shows 2 knee mortars, one with no tripod stand, it leaned on the other one with tripod stand and the stand is all set up as simply collapsible, does not need set up time.

The other knee mortar has NO tripod stand, it sits on the small base plate.

The problem is that you don't know mortars get hot after sustained firing, then your SANDF cannot fire any more, Nigeria has the option of quickly connecting the collapsible tripod stand in a matter of seconds and keep firing even when mortar gets hot.

Our own version is an improvement over your old school type.

You need to upgrade, you are stuck with an old world war II knee mortar design
.

Henry120:


You should start by training pilots for your Gripen first. 8 isn't actually a number to be proud of after 15 years.

You really do not move with times.


Gripen student pilots

mzilakazi:



You really do not move with times.


Gripen student pilots

Lol.......... indeed they are, indeed.

A random photo of some pilots now equals Gripen pilots.

You only got 8 qualified SAAF Gripen pilots. This is the fact.

agaugust:


You need new eye glasses? The Nigerian photo shows 2 knee mortars, one with no tripod stand, it leaned on the other one with tripod stand and the stand is all set up as simply collapsible, does not need set up time.

The other knee mortar has NO tripod stand, it sits on the small base plate.

The problem is that you don't know mortars get hot after sustained firing, then your SANDF cannot fire any more, Nigeria has the option of quickly connecting the collapsible tripod stand in a matter of seconds and keep firing even when mortar gets hot.

Our own version is an improvement over your old school type.

You need to upgrade, you are stuck with an old world war II knee mortar design
.

Hello!!! stop telling lies, that is not a knee mortar. It is called a lightweight mortar.

ActivateKruger:


I'm interested in seeing what Paramount Group will propose for us.. I would like it to go to a South African company

Unfortunately i think an OPV project will be to complex at this stage to build from scratch without the help of a foreign company, thus a collaboration will be needed and the Ships will still be build by SAn companies, as for the IPV, their are really impressive locally made products on the market including Paramounts 42m Trimaran. Ill try to post more pics and info about the possible IPVs that might be acquired by SAN.

jl115:
Possible OPVs for project Biro: All of the following Shipyards have shown interest in Project Biro, and all of the mention OPVs will be build locally.

Pic 1: Veecraft Marine + Navantia (Avante class 3000)
Pic 2: Damen Shipyards (Holland class OPV )
Pic 3: Southern African Shipyards + Germany’s Lurssen Werft (K 130 )
Pic 4: DCNS + KND (Gowind class )

What is Your Favorite?

Still day-dreaming, okay.

Henry120:


Lol.......... indeed they are, indeed.

A random photo of some pilots now equals Gripen pilots.

You only got 8 qualified SAAF Gripen pilots. This is the fact.

I posted pics and sources that prove you wrong mate!

jl115:

I posted pics and sources that prove you wrong mate!

You posted photos, yes, they proved nothing, yes.

Henry120:


Still day-dreaming, okay.

Armscor got the all clear to purches OPVs and IPVs, thus its you day dreaming ,my friend.

Henry120:


You posted photos, yes, they proved nothing, yes.

Sources too mate, consult the archives as you Nigerians like to say.

Henry120:


Still day-dreaming, okay.

You are always backward like those two mountains on your backside. Project Biro has been approved by the parliament. The navy currently is looking for shipyards.

MikeCZAR:
The war was in 1982 and they weren't obsolete then.

Lack of information.

In 1982 a naval jet with no single guided weapon was obsolete then, SkyHawk was obsolete. The modern Argentine jet was the 1982 Super Etendard that sank warships and escaped at will
.

mzilakazi:


You are always backward like those two mountains on your backside. Project Biro has been approved by the parliament. The navy currently is looking for shipyards.

Looking for shipyards for 17 years. Goodluck with that.

jl115:

Sources too mate, consult the archives as you Nigerians like to say.

Yawns!!!!!

Nothing to consult in the archives, as they are empty, as regards to this particular issue.

Henry120:


Yawns!!!!!

Nothing to consult in the archives, as they are empty, as regards to this particular issue.

Lazy, cant say im surprised though

Henry120:


Still day-dreaming, okay.

Henry I see you're starting to a traumatic experience... SAN OPVs are coming.

ChukwuCantDie:
"The report released last week titled Mathematics Outcomes in South African Schools, cites among others, data collected in 2007, which shows that the majority of grade 6 teachers in South Africa cannot answer a question that their pupils ought to be able to answer based on the grade 6 curriculum."

"In one example, only 23% of South African grade 6 mathematics teachers could answer (such a grade 6 question) — with the proportion answering correctly ranging from 13% for quintile one teachers to 46% for quintile five teachers". Quintile 1 schools are the more disadvantaged schools and for the most part do not charge fees, while quintile 5 schools are regarded as more privileged and generally charge fees."


Sadness, I genuinely feel sorry for my true African brothers and sisters down there in South Africa and I hope your lives will improve.

@jln115 @ActivateKruger @MikeCZAR @mzilakazi @MduZA

It affects South African military too, AU and UN don't ever trust their army, Tanzanian army Brigadier was asked to command them in Congo war....too dull to lead is the trademark of Soweto nation
.

jl115:

Lazy, cant say im surprised though

Fact remains, you are getting nothing, and you posted no proof to show you have more than 8 Gripen pilots.

Henry120:


Looking for shipyards for 17 years. Goodluck with that.

Nope, where do you get 17years from? Project Biro was approved this year.

Agububu. I'm playing Black Ops 2... There's the R1, the Eland 90 and Buffel with UNITA... wanna join?

Henry120:


Fact remains, you are getting nothing, and you posted no proof to show you have more than 8 Gripen pilots.

These gripen pupil fighter pilots will kill you. By next year they will be fully qualified.

Henry120:


Fact remains, you are getting nothing, and you posted no proof to show you have more than 8 Gripen pilots.

I have, but you are just to lazy to go look for it, but ill post it again.

"18 Gripen navigators and pilots have been trained to operational status"

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36789:saaf-should-consider-selling-gripens-and-buying-transports&catid=61:editor-column

jl115:
Possible OPVs for project Biro: All of the following Shipyards have shown interest in Project Biro, and all of the mention OPVs will be build locally.

Pic 1: Veecraft Marine + Navantia (Avante class 3000)
Pic 2: Damen Shipyards (Holland class OPV )
Pic 3: Southern African Shipyards + Germany’s Lurssen Werft (K 130 )
Pic 4: DCNS + KND (Gowind class )

What is Your Favorite?

Are you the one personally buying OPV for South Africa? Abeg show us official source....oh ! Wait....the OPV South Africa dreams to buy has NO NAME....because they will buy NOTHING.

Come to Lagos ask Naija navy to let you borrow 10 Stealth Combat Catamarans for free
.

jl115:

I have, but you are just to lazy to go look for it, but ill post it again.

"18 Gripen navigators and pilots have been trained to operational status"

www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36789:saaf-should-consider-selling-gripens-and-buying-transports&catid=61:editor-column

18 Gripen Air crew doesn't equal 18 Gripen Pilots.

Besides, even if we are to see this claim from your POV, 18 pilots (lower of course), 26 planes, 15 years, is this a number to be proud of?

18 Aircrew doesn't equal 18 pilots.

How many pilots were trained?
What are the number of navigators trained?

My answer.

8 pilots trained
10 navigators.