You have to be brainwashed by religious propaganda to believe in this nonsense.

If it does not make logical sense it is false.

Hell is the only weapon they have left to 'convert' souls and rob them off their hard earned money.

If character played a role in preaching the gospel 90% of churches will be empty.

UncleSnr:
It is written that the evil people will burn in hell i.e. suffer for eternity, my question is that, will it make them become good, or undo the evil they have done?
What is the gain of burning them forever?

It is Jesus that makes the change in a bad person not hell fire. Hell fire is purely for for those who reject Jesus. Why bother yourself about hell when you can embrace Jesus and escape from it?

How are christians sure that on the "new earth" another "tree of good and evil" won't be there?...perhaps as a trilogy to the "freewill" saga...needing another "jesus 2.0"? lol

davien:
How are christians sure that on the "new earth" another "tree of good and evil" won't be there?...perhaps as a trilogy to the "freewill" saga...needing another "jesus 2.0"? lol

Words of the scripture makes us to be sure there wont be.

honourhim:


It is Jesus that makes the change in a bad person not hell fire. Hell fire is purely for for those who reject Jesus. Why bother yourself about hell when you can embrace Jesus and escape from it?

In other words..why not pay the mob boss threatening you than die,right?
Because that is what you are basically saying....that "god" comes down and says
"heck of a life you got there,would be a shame if you had to burn in hell for eternity wouldn't it?....tell you what,believe in my son here and you're gonna be okay". ..is that "just"?

How is a freewill choice between one evil and another a good thing?...that is blackmail,not a life preserver..

honourhim:


Words of the scripture makes us to be sure there wont be.

Really but won't the "tree of life" be there?( note: read Revelations 22:2 ) and then read Ezekiel 47:12;

"Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their
leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will
bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them.
Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing."

So how do you know the "tree of good and evil" isn't one of the different kinds there?...placed to run another massacre on "earth 2.0"?

Shawl001:
. You get it bro...ma mind is made up since fa...†☺ go †☺ Heaven... What øƒ urs? †☺ go †☺ hell?

here to watch... u're going nowhere bro. wake up... all goes to hell/grave... even the Christ spent three days in hell at least that's what ur bible says @Acts 2...


well,I'm just here to watch u guys argue...

Advertico:
1) God doesnt send people to hell, people make the choice to go to hell.
2) God is a just God. If God is just then there should be punishment for evil and reward for good.
3) hell is not meant for humans, it is meant for satan and his angels.

So Humans going to hell is who's; God's wish or Satan's wish?

Shawl001:
. Yes! *Big mafia lords* don't sacrifice there only begotten son ƒσя the world.. God did. aπϑ again, He gave U̶̲̥̅̊s GRACE. Sufficient ℓ̊ must say, ƒσя U̶̲̥̅̊s all. So, what else do U̶̲̥̅̊ need..

It's not a sacrifice if the son will be walking around in the market three days later. It's called a trick or a ruse, not a SACRIFICE.

davien:
How are christians sure that on the "new earth" another "tree of good and evil" won't be there?...perhaps as a trilogy to the "freewill" saga...needing another "jesus 2.0"? lol

I asked a witness this question and he was jumping frm pillar to post

Mandatory friendship. You must be the friend of the deity or be roasted for eternity.

Either the deity is mad or its followers are.
Even Hitler doesn't deserve eternal roasting. 1 billion years should be enough for less than 50 years of transgressions.

Advertico:
1) God doesnt send people to hell, people make the choice to go to hell.
2) God is a just God. If God is just then there should be punishment for evil and reward for good.
3) hell is not meant for humans, it is meant for satan and his angels.

Why give a child a gun if you don't want the child to shoot? Why create humans at all if you want none of them to go to hell? Unless "God" had a selfish reason for creating humans and probably derives joy watching people begging and crying in hell. What you are say doesn't make one atom of sense.

ifeness:


Why give a child a gun if you don't want the child to shoot? Why create humans at all if you want none of them to go to hell? Unless "God" had a selfish reason for creating humans and probably derives joy watching people begging and crying in hell. What you are say doesn't make one atom of sense.

Comedian Bill Burr does a funny joke about this in his new Netflix special. Apparently he resents being judged by someone who may have CREATED him. Only one person could be responsible for ALL the fu)ck ups, the creator.

Weah96:


Comedian Bill Burr does a funny joke about this in his new Netflix special. Apparently he resents being judged by someone who may have CREATED him. Only one person could be responsible for ALL the fu)ck ups, the creator.

Too bad his followers are too blind or knowledgeable to think the fellow who "supposedly" created all things will have to be responsible for atrocities happening around the world. A "God" who only had the guts to show himself/itself to primitive cave men.

edogho:


here to watch... u're going nowhere bro. wake up... all goes to hell/grave... even the Christ spent three days in hell at least that's what ur bible says @Acts 2...


well,I'm just here to watch u guys argue...

. Well let's wait aπϑ c, time will tell. ℓ̊ jes hope, wyl A̶̲̥̅♏ in Heaven, ℓ̊ won't b waving at U̶̲̥̅̊ in hell....catch d truth now aπϑ save ur soul... Ignorant fellow! #whom d god øƒ dis world as blinded der eyes not †☺ c d truth#....anyway, will keep on praying ƒσя U̶̲̥̅̊.

wordcat:


So Humans going to hell is who's; God's wish or Satan's wish?

the choice of the Human. the intentions of God has never bin to send Human to hell. Infact he weeps when a human goes to hell.

ifeness:


Why give a child a gun if you don't want the child to shoot? Why create humans at all if you want none of them to go to hell? Unless "God" had a selfish reason for creating humans and probably derives joy watching people begging and crying in hell. What you are say doesn't make one atom of sense.

on the contrary sir. God weeps for every lost soul.

wordcat:


I asked a witness this question and he was jumping frm pillar to post

. Well, its quite simple! D Ω̴̩̩̩̥εw earth are ƒσя those who overcame every temptation.. aπϑ have been tried byond measure. D Ω̴̩̩̩̥εw earth as no sin, everything will be perfect. So, no need øƒ testing the true nature øƒ man, cos' its been revealed already. So, d Ω̴̩̩̩̥εw earth is ƒσя thos øƒ U̶̲̥̅̊s that PASSED!!!

Do u expect me to read this?

Shawl001:
. Well, its quite simple! D Ω̴̩̩̩̥εw earth are ƒσя those who overcame every temptation.. aπϑ have been tried byond measure. D Ω̴̩̩̩̥εw earth as no sin, everything will be perfect. So, no need øƒ testing the true nature øƒ man, cos' its been revealed already. So, d Ω̴̩̩̩̥εw earth is ƒσя thos øƒ U̶̲̥̅̊s that PASSED!!!

Advertico:
the choice of the Human. the intentions of God has never bin to send Human to hell. Infact he weeps when a human goes to hell.

So you're saying that our intention prevails over God's intention? To the extent that we even make him weep?

I thought he's omniscient and omnipotent or am I wrong about this Omni things?

frosbel:
You have to be brainwashed by religious propaganda to believe in this nonsense.

If it does not make logical sense it is false.

Hell is the only weapon they have left to 'convert' souls and rob them off their hard earned money.

If character played a role in preaching the gospel 90% of churches will be empty.

frosbel, did you just activate your thinking faculty?

wordcat:


So you're saying that our intention prevails over God's intention? To the extent that we even make him weep?

I thought he's omniscient and omnipotent or am I wrong about this Omni things?

nope u r nt. If God should override our choice it wouldnt make us humans, it will make us robots. He knws all tins and He respects our choices.
When we give our life and choice to God then He directs thems bt even at that it still depends on you.

Shawl001:
. Well let's wait aπϑ c, time will tell. ℓ̊ jes hope, wyl A̶̲̥̅♏ in Heaven, ℓ̊ won't b waving at U̶̲̥̅̊ in hell....catch d truth now aπϑ save ur soul... Ignorant fellow! #whom d god øƒ dis world as blinded der eyes not †☺ c d truth#....anyway, will keep on praying ƒσя U̶̲̥̅̊.

ok bro, when u wake up

I'm off, thread's derailed

Advertico:
nope u r nt. If God should override our choice it wouldnt make us humans, it will make us robots. He knws all tins and He respects our choices.
When we give our life and choice to God then He directs thems bt even at that it still depends on you.

I would have been happier a robot. Why give me freewill and at the same time create all these temptations everywhere?

Advertico:
nope u r nt. If God should override our choice it wouldnt make us humans, it will make us robots. He knws all tins and He respects our choices.
When we give our life and choice to God then He directs thems bt even at that it still depends on you.

He gave us freewill to choose. He made all sort of sin a choice. He created hell to burn sinners. Still, somehow, he doesn't want us to go to hell? Seems like that's his plan after all, to watch horror movie of hell for all eternity.
He surely likes the spine chilling effect of hell.

davien:
In other words..why not pay the mob boss threatening you than die,right?
Because that is what you are basically saying....that "god" comes down and says
"heck of a life you got there,would be a shame if you had to burn in hell for eternity wouldn't it?....tell you what,believe in my son here and you're gonna be okay". ..is that "just"?

How is a freewill choice between one evil and another a good thing?...that is blackmail,not a life preserver..

Bro can you change what is on ground? No. You have only two options- heaven or lake of fire, choose one. Even if we argue it till ages to come it can't change anything. Choose heaven for your own good. God help you.

honourhim:

Bro can you change what is on ground? No. You have only two options- heaven or lake of fire, choose one. Even if we argue it till ages to come it can't change anything. Choose heaven for your own good. God help you.

Use your brain !!!!

No one is going to heaven, duh...

I think god would be useless without a Satan/Devil because nobody will take about him. Else, why can't god just destroy the devil once and for all instead of allowing him to roam about and find people who will go to hell with him?

davien:
Really but won't the "tree of life" be there?( note: read Revelations 22:2 ) and then read Ezekiel 47:12;

"Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their
leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will
bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them.
Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing."

So how do you know the "tree of good and evil" isn't one of the different kinds there?...placed to run another massacre on "earth 2.0"?

Kindly show me where the book of revelation mentioned tree of the knowledge of good and evil as it was mentioned in Genesis among the many trees planted in the garden.

Also kindly show me where God promised us that there will be no evil,no pain, no tears, no death, no sorrow in this present world forever as he promised for the new heaven and new earth.

UncleSnr:
It is written that the evil people will burn in hell i.e. suffer for eternity, my question is that, will it make them become good, or undo the evil they have done?
What is the gain of burning them forever?

God design the law to guide us so that man will live in harmony with one another,but man chose to break this law. Those who go to hell make the choice by there own self, God say don't kill, don't steal ,don't commit adultery , is this to much to ask for?if you obey this law is for your own good,the world will be a better place to live, but people don't want to abandon there favourite sin. You chose hell or heaven,it a choice.

Advertico:
nope u r nt. If God should override our choice it wouldnt make us humans, it will make us robots. He knws all tins and He respects our choices.
When we give our life and choice to God then He directs thems bt even at that it still depends on you.

We don't have choice since god has already knw what we will choose. As an omniscient god we can't choose against his wish.

Hell is not real. Anybody who claims to know hell exists should prove to us how, by logic or evidence

Hell is simply a tool used by religions to blackmail people