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Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 12:10pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
To fellow muslims in the house, here is another chapter and verses of the bible that the [size=15pt] Quran bashers don't want you to know about [/size] just like the one on the thread below www.nairaland.com/1896846/what-quran-bashers-dont-want-know LETS GO STRAIGHT TO THE POINT WITHOUT WASTING ANYTIME. Lets open the alleged holy spirit inspired bible to the book of Numbers chapter 31: Are you there? okay good, this is what happened. The bible God was afraid that the midianites will convert the Israelites away from him because of the idolatrous women having consensual sexual relations with the Israelite men and subsequently deceiving them to worship idol/gods different from the bible God. For these reasons the bible God commanded Moses and the Israelites to MASSACRE the Midianites: 31:1 The Lord said to Moses, 31:2 “Avenge the people of Israel of the Midianites. After that,you will be gathered to your people.” 31:3 So Moses said to the people, “Arm some of your men to go to war against the Midianites and to carry out the Lord’s vengeance on them. ^^What vengeance? what have they done to have deserved to be massacred 31:4 Send into battle a thousand men from each of the tribes of Israel.” . And: 31:7 They fought against Midian, as the Lord commanded Moses, and killed every man. 31:8 Among their victims were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. 31:9 The Israelites captured the Midianite women and children and took all the Midianite herds, flocks and goods as plunder. 31:10 They burned all the towns where the Midianites had settled, as well as all their camps. 31:11 They took all the plunder and spoils, including the people and animals, 31:12 and brought the captives, spoils and plunder to Moses and Eleazar the priest… Moses and his israelite jihadist killed every man, and took the women and children as slaves. They then returned to Moses, but he became upset at them for not killing the women and children as well. Only the young virgins fit to be sex slaves were to be kept alive: 31: 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle. 31:15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 31:16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the Lord in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 31:17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 31:18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. . Then the bible God discusses how to divide up the spoils of war: 31:25 The Lord said to Moses, 31:26: “You and Eleazar the priest and the family heads of the community are to count all the people and animals that were captured. 31:27 Divide the spoils between the soldiers who took part in the battle and the rest of the community. 31:28 From the soldiers who fought in the battle, set apart as tribute for the Lord one out of every five hundred, whether persons, cattle, donkeys, sheep or goats.” . And below was how it was shared between Moses, his Jihadist and the bible God: 31:32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 31:33 72,000 cattle, 31:34 61,000 donkeys 31:35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man. 31:36 The half share of those who fought in the battle was: 337,500 sheep, 31:37 of which the tribute for the Lord was 675; 31:38 36,000 cattle, of which the tribute for the Lord was 72; 31:39 30,500 donkeys, of which the tribute for the Lord was 61; 31:40 [size=15] 16,000 virgins, of which the tribute for the Lord was 32. [/size] . BIBLE GOD'S SHARE OF THE WAR BOOTY Sheep = 675 Cattle = 72 Donkey = 61 All these^^ animals we may guess/assume that he was going to either fry them or roast them. Or what do ya'll think Virgins = 32 [size=15pt] Can somebody please tell me what he was going to do with these 32virgins [/size] tag: Malvisguy212, Francistony, petergwu, macelliot, italo, frosbel, dapo777, sbak, bosstTdiamonds, divepen, maamin, an2elect..etcetera.. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by PastorKun(m): 12:27pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
The same bible God that muslims claim is allah 4 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by italo: 12:27pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: I dont get you. First of all, as a Muslim, do you believe in the Bible or not? That is a fundamental question. |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Nobody: 12:29pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Question for the gods. Since he didn't specify it, who am I to assume? Old testament- Judaism. New testament- Christianity. |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 12:37pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
italo: Where First of all, as a Muslim, do you believe in the Bible or not? That is a fundamental question. The word of God is different from the word of man. Now please address the OP 2 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by italo: 12:42pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: I need to know if you are a Bible believer or not. It will inform my response. |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by adahib: 12:49pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Hmmm |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 12:52pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
FrancisTony: my good friend Actually, malvisguy212 made me open this thread, he said he was going to clear my doubt. Well, i'm still waiting for him 2 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by herald9: 12:52pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by thorpido(m): 12:55pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Op are you trying to say this is where Muhammed got inspiration from? 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 12:57pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
PastorKun: He is greater than all that men attribute to him, the Quran already clear these doubts. Now address the OP 2 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 1:02pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Lol...you are a bit daft thorpido: Why don't you just address the OP 5 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by xpac01(m): 1:03pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Dear Rilwayne, I can perceive your desperation to justify, divert and balance the atrocities and terrorism been perpetrated by the islamic brotherhood all over the globe. Am not here to fault what you've posted but to make you understand that, the bible is made up of two tastaments viz: the old tastament and the new tastament. The old tastament which is where you picked your reference, is the tastament of THE LAW. Meaning is the era of tit for tat, eye for an eye. God uses His chosen ones 'Israel' to vest His judgement of death on any immoral nation or people immediately. Even among the children of israel, anyone who sins faces an instant judgement. But the coming of Jesus Christ saw the birth of the NEW TASTAMENT. This is an era of LOVE and GRACE. And this what we preach and practice today. We are expected to show love to every religion and people and that is the greatest commandment. Even you Rilwayne, if you can be sincere you can to easily testify to how peace loving xtians allover the world are.. Infact from the sharia law statements and some islamic practices, i can comfortably say that the old tastament is what we see practiced by islam today. We are now in the era of love and grace. The old tastament is there to make us understand the fulfilment of the law of Christ in the new tastament. So please stop using the old tastament to palpitiate the killings and terrorism of the islamic brotherhoods. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 1:06pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
italo: Like i said earlier, The word of God is different from the word of man 1 Like |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by plaetton: 1:10pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
FrancisTony:New testament, new god, or new testament, reformed god? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 1:14pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
@ xpac01 Please read the link in the OP before sayin rubbish and address the OP 2 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by plaetton: 1:19pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
xpac01:So much ramblings, and at the end, you failed to answer the question. If you are embarrassed by these Bible verses, simply say so. If you want to deny and distance your self from the old testament god, also feel free to do so. The old testament is there to remind you that your god is a genocidal maniac, and to remind me that god, whether loving or evil, is created in the human psyche. 13 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by plaetton: 1:22pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
italo:OK. Then let me ask the question. What did Yahweh/ god do with 32 virgins? This is a very simple question. If you don't know, say so. But pls no convoluted logic. 7 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by thorpido(m): 1:26pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:If you were not daft,you wouldn't start this thread. |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by asala1: 1:31pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Atleast they don't preach 77 virgins. Last time I checked, Bible believers don't blow up themselves and other innocent people just because of the reward of some heavenly Tootoo 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by PastorKun(m): 1:31pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: But your quran is far from being a credible source of information na. The true God is clearly not spoken of in the quran. 3 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 1:34pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
thorpido: address the OP 1 Like |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 1:40pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
PastorKun: Yes, to you The true God is clearly not spoken of in the quran. You are clueless, is'nt it? The true god spoken about in the bible is the one that want 32virgins and animals for "suya" Address the OP biko 8 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by malvisguy212: 1:41pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
The Midianites were practising idolatry,God is purging the land from evil and the isrealite is coping there evil deed: this are there evil deed. Number25:1_5 While Israel remained at Shittim, the people began to play the harlot with the daughters of Moab. 2For they invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and bowed down to their gods. 3So Israel joined themselves to Baal of Peor, and the LORD was angry against Israel. 4The LORD said to Moses, “Take all the leaders of the people and execute them in broad daylight before the LORD, so that the fierce anger of the LORD may turn away from Israel.” 5So Moses said to the judges of Israel, “Each of you slay his men who have joined themselves to Baal of Peor.” Rilwayne001 you now see why God other for there destruction? If they hard not inflicted the isrealite with there idolatry there judgment would not have come so soon,there will be chance for repentance.in. Judges they join force with the amalakite to fight isreal;Judges 6:33 Then all the Midianites and the Amalekites and the children of the east were gathered together, and went over, and pitched in the valley of Jezreel. The slave you are talking about is difference from the one God oder the isrealite to do, example jacob. Voluntary work for his uncle yet bible called it slave,infect the bible say in exedus '' He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." ( Exodus 21:16)'' If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished." ( Exodus 21:20) so rilwyan001 it is clear that the slave you are talking about is diff from the one God is saying. The isrealite God send against the moab are the last tribe of banjanmin tribe, God allow them to take the virgin to produce there tribe.it was the evil of the moab that resulted to this. Deut. 21:10-14 When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her , that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her. You don't treat salve like this do you? Clean them up and treet them kindly, unlike muhammed who had 11 wife still allah alow him to had sex with his slave. Ready for my question. |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 1:43pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
asala1: SMDH 1 Like |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Nobody: 1:46pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Hahahahahaha... 2 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by malvisguy212: 1:49pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Rilwayne001:don't worry I will be back, I am expecting you to open it yesterday night but you dint. Am busy now. |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Tallesty1(m): 1:52pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
Honestly, Even as a Christian, that place broke my heart when I read it. And I have made a lot of researches on the subject and these are my findings so far. ^^What vengeance? what have they done to have deserved to be massacred I will answer you in my own little way. First, I will like to draw our attention to what happened when the people of Israel came near Moab. (((And Balak the son of Zippor was king of Moab at that time. 5 So he sent messengers to Balaamthe son of Beor, at Pethor, which is near the River, in the land of the sons of his people, to call him, saying, “Behold, a people came out of Egypt; behold, they cover the surface of the land, and they are living opposite me. 6 “Now, therefore, please come, curse this people for me since they are too mighty for me; perhaps I may be able to defeat them and drive them out of the land. For I know that he whom you bless is blessed, and he whom you curse is cursed.”))). Balaak wants Israel to be wipped off the surface of earth and the Midianites and Moabites are mixed/co-exist. We can also see in the scripture that Balaam at a point accepted Balaaks offer but when he opened his mouth to curse Israel, He miraculously pronounced a blessing on Israel but a curse on Moab. The king got angry and left but the Midianites didn't want the Israelites to go scot free so they went behind doors to meet Balaam who then revealed to them how to get the Israelites. This sounds like a lie but let's take a look at Moses' statement to find out how. Look at Moses' words. “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them.16“They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor. What else do you need? BTW, So, Balaam somehow is back into the picture? How so? Who is Balaam and why is he so important a figure in this passage? Let's revists Balaaks words For I know that he whom you bless is blessed, and he whom you curse is cursed.”. Him alone knows how to defeat Israle. He advised the women on how to turn the Israelites away from the Lord. I learned that A great number of Moabite and Midianite women did show up at the Israel encampment, with government funding and security escorts, having carefully planned the trip to decieve the Israelite in sexual immorality and make them penetratable? Who gave them the info? Our own Balaam ofcours Numbers 31:16 informs us the Midianite women were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. The Plague took the life of 24,000 Isrealites. Scripture also recorded that another unknown number of Israelites also suffered because of these Midianites. a large group/most of the Israelite leadership was ordered by God to be executed, until the action of Phineas restored some stability to the situation . You see, the sin of the Midianites are many. First was their deliberate strategy to use ‘sex’ as a weapon, and have Israel abandon the protection and life-source of their God. And it worked an extent as we can see from the scripture that. Second as I gathered from history is that the Midianites preyed upon Israel, apparently during the harvest times. The Israelites had difficulty dealing with the Midianites, who used the camel to make long raids and retreat quickly. Thirldy, They wanted to/USED their women, sex and idolatry to turn the Israelis from God with the intent to help the Moabites to defeat them. Fourth, God dealt very harshly because it was through the people of Israel that the Messiah would later come. Satan, in his perpetual effort to oppose God, sought to have the people of God fall into false worship and through intermarriage with other people to destroy the messianic line and make not only the promises of God null and void but also destroy means by which the Messiah could be born. If this could be accomplished, then none would have any hope of deliverance from sin. So God was right when he said 17 “Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them,18 because they treated you as enemies when they deceived you in the affair of Peor Because the Midianites where like a Delilah to Israelite, They wanted to sell them out. |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Nobody: 2:09pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
okay I get it....we are comparing 5999 BC ancient practices to a 2014 AD Radical phenomenon including but not limited to the acquisition of 72 virgins immediately upon death and for all eternity 2 Likes |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Nobody: 2:40pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
plaetton:Rephrase! |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 2:54pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212:If the above is your own reason why you think the midianites should be massacred, then what will you say is the reason why Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites,and Jebusites, should be utterly destroyed as commanded by the bible God Then all the Midianites and the Amalekites and the We all know this was not the reason, the reason is in numbers 25:17 “Treat the Midianites as enemies and kill them, 25:18 because they treated you as enemies when they deceived you in the affair of Peor and their sister Cozbi, the daughter of a Midianite leader, the woman who was killed when the plague came as a result of Peor. ” They were to be utterly destroyed with their children because some of their women lure some of the israelite to worship, and the bible God was scared that he will not be worshipped again, is'nt it? The slave you are talking about is difference from the one God oder the isrealite to do, example jacob. Voluntary work for his uncle yet bible called it slave,infect the bible say in exedus You don't treat salve like this do you? Clean them up and treet them kindly, unlike muhammed who had 11 wife still allah alow him to had sex with his slave. The OP is clear enough What was he going to do with his share of 32virgins 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Rilwayne001: 3:01pm On Dec 18, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Sorry, i told you the problem am facing yesterday, infact right now, my battery is down and no light since 5days ago.... 1 Like |
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