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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:31pm On Dec 18, 2014
I think it would be best if LvG plays the diamond midfield in the first half and then opts for the 4-4-1-1 formation in the second half. With this, Man Utd'll be guaranteed 2 sweet goals in the first 45 (Di Maria). We'll just come back and defend in the second half with fresh legs to spring on any mistakes and punish the opposition through counter attacks.

This weekend's lineup will probably be the same as last week's. LvG is looking for consistency undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:31pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:
Ronaldinho in Barcelona, Carrick in United, Pirlo in Juventus, Robben for Netherlands, Sneijder for Netherlands 2010, Sneijder for Inter Milan, Messi in Barcelona, Giggs in United, Viera in Arsenal, Campo in Bolton, di Maria in Madrid, Nedved in Juventus, Finidi in Ajax, Baggio in Italy, Maradonna in Argentina, a lot of Everton games flowed through Baines as well; so she has, just like you, proved nothing!
What about CR7 at Utd?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:33pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:

the definition of overrated is very simple, its different from who's on the big poster inside your bathroom.
some players are overrated, especially those with some flair & fine face while some are underrated, going about their very effective roles without much accolades. the last group falls in-between, hailed/criticized in exact measure with their output.

I think I know where Hazard falls
Overrated and pampered grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:35pm On Dec 18, 2014
you people just love arguing for the sake of it. mata, silva, cesc, arteta, are all playmakers in their own rights. they are all blessed with vision, accurate passing & the talent to appreciate time & space.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 4:37pm On Dec 18, 2014
Odunharry:
Make una 4get play maker matter make we talk about match for weekend..

Our injured players are coming back from injury and we all know we av alot of attackers and people in the middle...
My question is,if everyone is fit,what will be ur own preferred..
(a)starting eleven and preferred formation
(b)players to start in the middle..

My prefer formation will be 4-1-2-1-2 like 442 diamond

at the back i will prefer
RAF-SMALLING/JONES-ROJO-SHAW

Then Blind can provide cover for CB
VAL/FELLAINI DIMARIA

ROONEY IN THE HOLE

THEN FALCAO AND RVP UPFRONT

I swear Vangaal will experience selection headache

mine will be 4-3-1-2;

- - - - - - - - - - - - de Gea - - - - - - - - - -

Rafael - - Smalling - - - - Jones - - Shaw

- - - Herrera - - - Blind - - - di Maria - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - Rooney - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - van Persie - - - - Falcao - - - - - -

Fellaini off the bench for the 'pawa' for last 25mins, Mata too if more goals are required.

second team will be just as good IMO
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 4:50pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:
you people just love arguing for the sake of it. mata, silva, cesc, arteta, are all playmakers in their own rights. they are all blessed with vision, accurate passing & the talent to appreciate time & space.
@bolded is a true playmaker but yet sm dudes disagree
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:51pm On Dec 18, 2014
i don't think shaw has done enough to keep young on the bench. ashley young has been outstanding in the last few games - particularly against arsenal & the games that followed.

tony valencia also stepped it up a bit against liverpool but he is not a defender - he's not as good as smashley on the other side. fellaini will start ahead of herrera/mata simply because van gaal see him as the reason we have been finishing games strongly instead of hanging there like the earlier games.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 4:55pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:


mine will be 4-3-1-2;

- - - - - - - - - - - - de Gea - - - - - - - - - -

Rafael - - Smalling - - - - Jones - - Shaw

- - - Herrera - - - Blind - - - di Maria - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - Rooney - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - van Persie - - - - Falcao - - - - - -

Fellaini off the bench for the 'pawa' for last 25mins, Mata too if more goals are required.

second team will be just as good IMO
Kai God punish injury o.
Have we ever played a match where all this guy started the match ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:57pm On Dec 18, 2014
SIRcumalot:

Kai God punish injury o.
Have we ever played a match where all this guy started the match ?

if we play that team - we will win the league but that's on paper. sometimes, packing the best players in a team doesn't always get you the results. this is why water carriers like valencia, young, fellaini, etc are very important.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:00pm On Dec 18, 2014
so Shirley is a "she" ?

No wonder dis Mata playmaking argument took too long to end
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:01pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


if we play that team - we will win the league but that's on paper. sometimes, packing the best players in a team doesn't always get you the results. this is why water carriers like valencia, young, fellaini, etc are very important.
Tell that to Chelsea,Man city and Real Madrid.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 5:03pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:


mine will be 4-3-1-2;

- - - - - - - - - - - - de Gea - - - - - - - - - -

Rafael - - Smalling - - - - Jones - - Shaw

- - - Herrera - - - Blind - - - di Maria - - -

- - - - - - - - - - - Rooney - - - - - - - - - - -

- - - - - van Persie - - - - Falcao - - - - - -

Fellaini off the bench for the 'pawa' for last 25mins, Mata too if more goals are required.

second team will be just as good IMO


Do you really think LVG would start Blind ahead of Carrik? undecided I don't think so.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 5:03pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


if we play that team - we will win the league but that's on paper. sometimes, packing the best players in a team doesn't always get you the results. this is why water carriers like valencia, young, fellaini, etc are very important.
but I think if van Gaal is to send out his strongest team for a game, it will be difficult to displace anyone there. the few close calls are Rojo & Mata. assume van Gaal gets the "before injury" Strootman, I don't see the ace Fellaini holds in that line up
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 5:08pm On Dec 18, 2014
Karleb:


Do you really think LVG would start Blind ahead of Carrik? undecided I don't think so.

dude watch LVG on dat day
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 5:08pm On Dec 18, 2014
Karleb:


Do you really think LVG would start Blind ahead of Carrik? undecided I don't think so.

I think he will play Blind & sit Carrick on the bench, I actually believe it will be a straight decision for him; even the fans will not bat a lid.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:09pm On Dec 18, 2014
SIRcumalot:

Tell that to Chelsea,Man city and Real Madrid.

they all have water carriers too.
oscar + ramirez + mikel(chelsea)
mangala + milner(city)

madrid are almost flawless but then their league is weak. we dunno how those pretty players of theirs would hold up in a league like ours.

SailorXY:

I think he will play Blind & sit Carrick on the bench, I actually believe it will be a straight decision for him; even the fans will not bat a lid.

or play blind in the back 3 like he did for holland to accommodate carrick in the midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by aieo(m): 5:16pm On Dec 18, 2014
what's up with the Herrera and the jail talks

or are they just rumours?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 5:18pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


they all have water carriers too.
oscar + ramirez + mikel(chelsea)
mangala + milner(city)

madrid are almost flawless but then their league is weak. we dunno how those pretty players of theirs would hold up in a league like ours.
Mikel and Ramirez don't start games for Chelsea except one of the starters gets into suspension or injuries problems.
I know Milner his no water Carrier same as Oscar.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 5:18pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:

I think he will play Blind & sit Carrick on the bench, I actually believe it will be a straight decision for him; even the fans will not bat a lid.


You mean you've quickly forgotten that Wesbrom match that brought Fellani into limelight?

I simply do not want Blind to pull another Herrera on us, 3 points is not beans o.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 5:20pm On Dec 18, 2014
aieo:
what's up with the Herrera and the jail talks

or are they just rumours?

Jail ke?

He was just accused of match fixing and he has clearly declared that his conscience is clear.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:21pm On Dec 18, 2014
SIRcumalot:

Mikel and Ramirez don't start games for Chelsea except one of the starters gets into suspension or injuries problems.
I know Milner his no water Carrier same as Oscar.

milner & oscar are the true definition of water carriers. they make the team only because of their defensive attributes. have you seen oscar's defensive stats? he's better than kompany when it comes to destroy & stop the opposition attacks......ask him to pads from 6 yards and he will give it to the opponents.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:28pm On Dec 18, 2014
elampiro and coogar ur opinion is welcome
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 5:30pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


milner & oscar are the true definition of water carriers. they make the team only because of their defensive attributes. have you seen oscar's defensive stats? he's better than kompany when it comes to destroy & stop the opposition attacks......ask him to pads from 6 yards and he will give it to the opponents.
True...Oscar will either overhit or underhit a pass
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by aieo(m): 5:32pm On Dec 18, 2014
Karleb:


Jail ke?

He was just accused of match fixing and he has clearly declared that his conscience is clear.

Accusations you say, when judges had declared them guilty according to goal.com ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 5:48pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


or play blind in the back 3 like he did for holland to accommodate carrick in the midfield.

that will be a waste of attacking flair because di Maria has to be a part of that front -2- for it to be effective. using 5-3-2 when we have attacking talents like van Persie, di Maria, Rooney, Falcao & Mata raring to go is madness. infact, he can't even begin to think in that direction.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 5:52pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:

ogbeni, Shirley has typed a lot of contradictions in few minutes to make the grande finale of any negative world event. all these article you typed only heaps vomit on scat.
if she earlier said a playmaker cannot be the same as a deep-lying midfielder, then what is Pirlo & Xavi doing on your list? if Fabregas was a playmaker for Arsenal, what is Fabregas for Chelshit now? if Netherlands had no recognized playmaker & made WC final, why is it imperative we have one to play good football? Okocha did playmaking for Super Eagles from CM, just like Papilo did from basically a second striker position, so?
it is not written in any FIFA book that the playmaker of a team must be in center midfield. many games has flowed through different positioned players in different eras: Ronaldinho in Barcelona, Carrick in United, Pirlo in Juventus, Robben Sneidjer for Netherlands, Sneijder for Netherlands 2010, Sneijder for Inter Milan, Messi Xavi in Barcelona, Giggs in United when he was deployed in the midfield, Viera in Arsenal, Campo in Bolton, di Maria Alonso, now Kroos in Madrid, Nedved in Juventus, Finidi in Ajax, Baggio [b]Del pier[b] in Italy, Maradonna in Argentina, a lot of Everton games flowed through Baines as well; so she has, just like you, proved nothing!
Show me where I said such? By the way, Xavi isn't a deeplying playmaker.
Just as there are 2 kinds of DM (Holding and box to box DM), there are also 2 kinds of playmaker which includes: Deeplying playmaker e.g Pirlo, Alonso, Sahin e.t.c; and Mobile playmaker e.g Xavi, Modric, Silva, Cesc, Schweinsteiger, Verratti e.t.c.
And for the record, Everton's game don't flow through Baines. Since Martinez became the coach, Everton games flow through Barry.
If you say Moyes' Everton team was built around Baines, then you were right. Even then, Everton has no midfield through which a game flows, the team was all about Baines punting long ball for Fellaini to chest down. That's not a flow 'cos any player can do that.
Also, building a team around a player doesn't mean that player is the playmaker, e.g Xavi is the playmaker for the Barca team but the team is built around Messi.
And I did correct some of the mistake you have there in your post.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 5:53pm On Dec 18, 2014
Karleb:


You mean you've quickly forgotten that Wesbrom match that brought Fellani into limelight?

I simply do not want Blind to pull another Herrera on us, 3 points is not beans o.
I can't remember Blind having a bad game for United yet undecided Herrera was rushed back with fractured ribs & played poorly, how is that any fault of Blind?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 5:58pm On Dec 18, 2014
SailorXY:

I can't remember Blind having a bad game for United yet undecided Herrera was rushed back with fractured ribs & played poorly, how is that any fault of Blind?


All I'm saying is that I/we do not want/need any form of rush rush, there is still a whole lot of games to be played.

Blind playing for 20 minutes will just be okay.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 6:00pm On Dec 18, 2014
Karleb:


All I'm saying is that I/we do not want/need any form of rush rush, there is still a whole lot of games to be played.

Blind playing for 20 minutes will just be okay.
ok
we were actually laying emphasis on a fully healthy team
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 6:04pm On Dec 18, 2014
coogar:


milner & oscar are the true definition of water carriers. they make the team only because of their defensive attributes. have you seen oscar's defensive stats? he's better than kompany when it comes to destroy & stop the opposition attacks......ask him to pads from 6 yards and he will give it to the opponents.
Milner was Man city best player against Everton that guy can do a bit of everything,
Oscar's cross to Hazard for Hull's first goal is impressive for a player that can't pass,
If both this player aren't very good they would have been replaced long ago.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 6:12pm On Dec 18, 2014
Shirley07:

Show me where I said such? By the way, Xavi isn't a deeplying playmaker.
Just as there are 2 kinds of DM (Holding and box to box DM), there are also 2 kinds of playmaker which includes: Deeplying playmaker e.g Pirlo, Alonso, Sahin e.t.c; and Mobile playmaker e.g Xavi, Modric, Silva, Cesc, Schweinsteiger, Verratti e.t.c.
And for the record, Everton's game don't flow through Baines. Since Martinez became the coach, Everton games flow through Barry.
If you say Moyes' Everton team was built around Baines, then you were right. Even then, Everton has no midfield through which a game flows, the team was all about Baines punting long ball for Fellaini to chest down. That's not a flow 'cos any player can do that.
Also, building a team around a player doesn't mean that player is the playmaker, e.g Xavi is the playmaker for the Barca team but the team is built around Messi.
And I did correct some of the mistake you have there in your post.

Your wahala is too much fa..

You no dey tire??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Shirley07: 6:16pm On Dec 18, 2014
PietroRico:
lol. Is this a joke?
U just listed his strength ffs.
Those are not his strength.
His strength are his technical skill e.g ball control, first touch, dribbling.
His vision is also sound. But when it comes to awareness of space, good decision making and consistent passing, he falls short. He's basically a box to box CM.
Don't know why you lot are on the defensive, a box to box midfielder is not a bad thing.

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