sinequanon:


Rubbish. The breathing reflex would persist in a pure-nitrogen atmosphere, where there is no carbon dioxide.

Carbon dioxide is toxic, so of course it triggers DEEPER breathing.

The response to high altitude is obviously a long term one (red cell blood count etc.). Nobody would adapt if the response were the short term solution of conscious breathing. What would you do when you sleep?



Ancient error you are still regurgitating. They have since realized that the appendix is an important part of the immune system.

joseph1013:
- The existence of the pharynx, a passage used for both ingestion and respiration, with the consequent drastic increase in the risk of choking.

malvisguy212:
who is the law giver? Is it not God? God warn adam not to eat from the try of good and evil ,adam disobey God and face punishment,surely cain and abel would have learn not to disobey God or face the same punishment . So the knowledge of good and evil is passed unto them.cain violate it and face judgment the same way adam violate it and face judgment.

malvisguy212:
mr satanist, which question is that.

joseph1013:
Even in modern times, in almost all cases, the pregnancy must be aborted to save the life of the mother.

sinequanon:


I don't know what you are calling "modern times" but Africans were carrying out successful Cesarean Sections long before the Europeans.

By this, I mean that indigenous healers delivered the baby through midline incisions, saving BOTH child and mother.

Meanwhile, earlier surgeries recorded as European refer to last minute interventions in which the mother died, the object being to save the child, from certain death.

According to one estimate not a single woman survived cesarean section in Paris between 1787 and 1876.

Meanwhile, a Brit by the name of R.Felkin reported from his travels around the same time that Ugandans had been doing C-Sections for a very long time.

This historical fact is currently being "revised".

sinequanon:


I don't know what you are calling "modern times" but Africans were carrying out successful Cesarean Sections long before the Europeans.

By this, I mean that indigenous healers delivered the baby through midline incisions, saving BOTH child and mother.

Meanwhile, earlier surgeries recorded as European refer to last minute interventions in which the mother died, the object being to save the child, from certain death.

According to one estimate not a single woman survived cesarean section in Paris between 1787 and 1876.

Meanwhile, a Brit by the name of R.Felkin reported from his travels around the same time that Ugandans had been doing C-Sections for a very long time.

This historical fact is currently being "revised".

sinequanon:


From nearly zero to nearly zero. How many people do you know who have choked to death?

Yet, the cough reflex prevents us from bolting our food and causing digestive problems. We learn to chew well so as not to cause a coughing fit. It also supplements the gag reflex which can regurgitate contaminated or poisonous material, but isn't powerful enough to cleanse remnants.

The cough reflex is not triggered just because food "goes down the wrong way". It is a rapid response system to the first sign of toxins or allergens. It will powerfully remove such material and force mucous back into the buccal cavity, before it is left to the weaker gag reflex.

The same goes for anything likely to get stuck in the oesophagus. It gets tested first in the narrow confines of the pharynx. If it doesn't get stuck there, it is unlikely to get stuck anywhere else. If it does get stuck, a powerful blast of air can dislodge it much more effectively than peristalsis.

Perhaps the risk of choking pales into insignificance.

frank317:
Hey Mr Joe... It would do u good to ignore sinequanon, I suspect the guy is confused. He is on Nairaland to make himself feel important

malvisguy212:
GOD told adam not to eat from the tree of Good and evil and when they disobey God they face the punishment, am very sure adam and eve would have thought there children not to disobey God and teach them what is good and bad, so there conscience no what is good and evil.

In Darwin’s time there was an idea among the
nobility that their genetics were superior to those of
the rest of society. Many families including Darwin’s
took this belief to extreme levels by practicing incest
as a tradition.
They thought that if adolescents were to marry within
their own family then not only would all the wealth
stay in the family, but the “good” genes would also.
This also ensured that the family fortunes would be
retained for many future generations. This practice is
very common in aristocratic families, which explains
why they are all extremely mentally unstable. Darwin
came from a very classist and racist elite level of
society and that is reflected in his work, especially
“The Descent of Man”.

joseph1013:

To be truthful to you, even though it is obvious that you copy and paste from those si.lly creationism sites,

ooman:


I like this. Any useful link to confirm?

ooman:


Even if this is true, this mean evolution and atheism are wrong? And it immediately suggest the jewish god exist?
Delusion of grandeur.

ooman:


Even if this is true, this mean evolution and atheism are wrong? And it immediately suggest the jewish god exist?
Delusion of grandeur.

malvisguy212:
my point is, one of the world greatest scientist ignore genetic defect.

malvisguy212:
read more here.

https://www.intellihub.com/darwinism-eugenics-and-the-silent-genocide/

malvisguy212:
read more here.

https://www.intellihub.com/darwinism-eugenics-and-the-silent-genocide/

sinequanon:
From the same document I referenced earlier...

During the nineteenth century, however, surgery was transformed -- both technically and professionally. A new era in surgical practice began in [size=14pt]1846[/size] at Massachusetts General Hospital when dentist William T. G. Morton used [size=14pt]diethyl ether[/size] while removing a facial tumor. This medical application of [size=14pt]anesthesia rapidly spread to Europe[/size]. In obstetrics, though, there was opposition to its use based on the biblical injunction that women should sorrow to bring forth children in atonement for Eve's sin. This argument was substantially demolished when the head of the Church of England, Queen Victoria, had chloroform administered for the births of two of her children (Leopold in [size=14pt]1853[/size] and Beatrice in 1857). Subsequently, anesthesia in childbirth became popular among the wealthy and practical in cases of cesarean section.

So, you see, the African "witch doctors" with their "snake oil", "backwardness", "mysticism" and "superstitious delusions" were way ahead of the Europeans, despite the claim that the Europeans had done a successful Cesarean in a British base in South Africa -- what, when they still didn't have anesthetics?

What would these "witch doctors" have been able to do by now?

ooman:


They are not witch doctors, they are botanists and naturalists.

sinequanon:


They were traditional healers and diviners -- the same people Westerners daubed "witch doctors".

Healer and diviner were one and the same person. They did not use "the scientific method" to develop their medicine.

You are trying to call them "botanists and naturalists" in retrospect, AFTER discovering that they beat the Europeans to Cesarean Section.

In fact, the reason the whole thing comes as a surprise to you is because of how the history books have belittled the achievements of Africans. Now you are looking for a Western label, as if that is going to change who these healers were.

By time your children grow up, the history would probably have been completely revised. It will discover "evidence" that in fact the Europeans brought the surgery to the ignorant and backward "witch doctors" of Africa.

ooman:


Wrong!! Do you think your article ar.oused an interest I don't already have?
People may be called by whatever names anyone deems fit, but people in Africa already studied plants and animal around them to know which is edible and which is medicinal.
Do you think its also the Europeans that thought them which food to eat?
In a modern world, such art should be dubbed with modern terms. Simple

sinequanon:


No it shouldn't. That is precisely how you lose your culture instead of developing it.

The ATTITUDE of the diviners and healers towards nature was very different to that found in "modern" medicine and botany.

The modern terminology subsumes the African culture under Western practices and consigns the difference to the rubbish heap.

You are an example of how that process works. You lose your culture because you have accepted the language that consigns it to the rubbish heap.

ooman:


Wrong again. Change is constant. People change the way they do things to get better result.
I reject the idea that everything modern is western.
Everybody everywhere is learning more and evolving.
Evolving the African culture, so that it can produce better result is not loss of it, but development of it.

Science, technology and medicine are not western culture. Instead, these are modern art which is practised by everybody, everywhere.

The term "western education", to denote the modern educational system is wrong. A university in Mali existed centuries past, before Europeans got to us.

sinequanon:


You have ditched parts of your culture without even realizing it.

That is how good a brainwashing job Western education has done on you.

You use Western science, science, and understanding of nature ALL interchangeably. That is what the brainwashing has done, to the point where you can't even recognize aspects of your culture that you have lost.

Western education dominated, not because it was an improvement, but because it was forced on people.

ooman:


Guy, your intestine has somehow filled up your skull and your brain is now in your abdomen. You have problem with using your brain for thinking.

Better I start talking to a dog who has some brain cells left in its skull.

sinequanon:


You are sounding like a dog. It didn't take very long for the wild animal to come out of you, did it?

How does someone like you hope to talk about civilization?

And you have been so badly brainwashed out of your culture that embracing it now makes you froth at the mouth.

All the holistic thinking that was the hallmark of African culture, art, music, healing etc. was whitewashed out of you to the point where you can't fathom where you came from.

Shame.

sinequanon:


You are sounding like a dog. It didn't take very long for the wild animal to come out of you, did it?

How does someone like you hope to talk about civilization?

And you have been so badly brainwashed out of your culture that embracing it now makes you froth at the mouth.

All the holistic thinking that was the hallmark of African culture, art, music, healing etc. was whitewashed out of you to the point where you can't fathom where you came from.

Shame.

ooman:


Wrong again. Change is constant. People change the way they do things to get better result.
I reject the idea that everything modern is western.
Everybody everywhere is learning more and evolving.
Evolving the African culture, so that it can produce better result is not loss of it, but development of it.

Science, technology and medicine are not western culture. Instead, these are modern art which is practised by everybody, everywhere.

The term "western education", to denote the modern educational system is wrong. A university in Mali existed centuries past, before Europeans got to us.

Process
The overall process involves making conjectures (hypotheses), deriving predictions from them as logical consequences, and then carrying out experiments based on those predictions to determine whether the original conjecture was correct.[4] There are difficulties in a formulaic statement of method, however. Though the scientific method is often presented as a fixed sequence of steps, they are better considered as general principles.

joseph1013:

Jeez! How did ANYTHING ooman said imply all you wrote and the vitriolic labels? You're such a bitter fellow!

Did you fall on your head when you were a baby?

PastorAIO:


@Sinequanon, I've noticed that you are always fighting. There is no thread, no matter how pleasantly it starts, that you won't turn into a fight. I don't know what the psychological cause of this is. But I seem to get a sense now of where most of your aggression is directed at.

PastorAIO:
It is directed at the Scientific Revolution that started around the 17th century in Europe.

PastorAIO:
What you don't seem to realise, or maybe you realise but you just choose to ignore, is that Mankind has been doing science from the dawn of time. Those 'witch doctors' that you refer to ARE scientists.

PastorAIO:
Even the science in Europe was derived from what the Arabs left over after they left Spain so it is NOT a european thing. There also seems to be an anti european slant in your posts.

PastorAIO:
Here is what wiki has to say about the process of the Scientific Method:


Making conjectures! This part can come about by hunches, getting inspiration, dreams, daydreaming etc etc. Even the babalawo that learns about herbs from spirits, if he is smart, will only treat the revelation as conjecture. He still has to test the inspiration, either by experiments or some form of trial. If the herbs that the babalawo is using doesn't work according to the hypothetical inspiration, I can assure you, unless he is a daft babalawo, that he will ditch the herbal treatment.

Even the bible which christians read thoroughly before they ignore says, Test all spirits!

Unless you can show me what the babalawo does that is any different from what the european physicist does then I'll concede that you actually have a point.