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Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by EmmyBoy2(m): 11:05am On Dec 21, 2014 |
@ finofaya. spot on. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Nobody: 11:11am On Dec 21, 2014 |
irishCream: That's wrong on so many levels. If anything, its lawyers that stand by the poor. Do you know how many people have cases in court that lawyers are representing free of charge? As for taking from the poor and giving to the rich, that's the banking sector in my opinion. Please seek knowledge on how lawyers work, cause you won't know anything looking inside from the outside. You're bound to have misconcecptions. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Nobody: 11:12am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yes of course. Lawyers argue cases of clients and the client tell his stories, the lawyer only argues the clients story with the aid and predicate of law. So if there is anyone telling lies, it is the client. Although there are lawyers who delve into the Arena and cook lies and stories for clients, not all lawyers do so. You can be a great lawyer and a great Christian and live a life of comfort and fulfillment. It's all about you. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by duni04(m): 11:14am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Normally it's hard but in Nigeria its extra hard if not difficult cos of all the police sorting you have to do. Then there's the court house sorting. You have to sort the court clerks unless you'll never know when your case is up or anything at all. Then all the lies you have to tell the Judge when you or your client can't make it to court. Or the lies you concoct in contracts to extract more money from clients. And these are just the simple ones! It's near impossible |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by jonescyras(m): 11:26am On Dec 21, 2014 |
thunder74: Law ethics had made you believe that lawyers don't lie!( That's good, atleast one follows his profession's etiquettes) ......I'm a philosopher and as far as you have written above that what you have is sufficient and enough to be qualified being called a successful lawyer!..... I want you to know this Just as stipulated by a sophist (gorgias) he said Knowledge can not be known, if it could be known, it can't be communicated! If it could be communicated it can't represent exact knowledge the way it is in our minds! To you, you might say you are successful after achieving 1...Building a house 2....Buying a nice ride 3.....Having a virtuous material wife 4....Good and wonderful kids Some lawyers might take it from where you stop, did I say might?.....some will do more than that and keep staving for unlimited achievement!s...... I don't know how op will give his own terms on defining success!..... there is never an objective truth, there are lawyers who could not win a case without lying There is no lawyer on earth who can argue with logical reasons and win the argument that "all lawyers don't lie in court" even the op knows this anybody that says he/she has never lied in his/her profession is the biggest liar of all time |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Afritop(m): 11:38am On Dec 21, 2014 |
this is the reason why i chose to study another course in place of law in the university |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by ohamsuche: 11:39am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Guy lawyer don't rather d use logic to defend their case period. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by kazmanbanjoko(m): 11:46am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Two tinz are always involved. Either she repent again or she quits it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by gidjah(m): 11:47am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Got a brother in d faith over here,very faithful and committed in his bar job.he is a honourabale lawyer pls |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Penssuwa(m): 11:59am On Dec 21, 2014 |
It pains me deeply when non lawyers who hv neither been to court nor know what legal practice entails try to ventilate their ignorance abt the profession. First, lawyers dnt give evidence in court, witnesses do. So there is no way a lawyer can give false evidence as widely misconceived. Secondly, cases are prepared in the chambers so every lawyer is at liberty to jettison any 'bad case' at that level. 3rdly, the function of lawyers in court is to sew the facts as advanced by the witnesses with relevant laws and lace it with evidence provided also by the witnesses. The profession is enigmatic so you are not expected to knw much abt it if u are not into it. Op, you are forgiven. NB, there are notable crafty lawyers as we equally see in other professions. 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by zinny2049: 12:01pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
dhope:mind u we lawyers don't tell lies as u lay men misquote us. We re bound to defend anyone irrespective of our opinion towards d guilt of the offender or the defender the law obliges us to bring our evidence and administer justice. Pls stop misquoting us, it is against the ambit of the legal profession to pay false witnesses to appear before the court to give testimony. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by finofaya: 12:03pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
philips70: Lol. Those who know him personally will tell you as much. Besides, Ibori's acquittal appears to be largely an issue of the FHC judge, Justice Awokulehin. The Court of Appeal has since overturned the acquittal and we eagerly await Ibori's return to Nigeria. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by homesteady(m): 12:08pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
In cases where someone kills another person, and the lawyer tells him to say he has mental issues! isn't that a lie? |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by benarex(m): 12:09pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
This is interesting. We all (including the pastors/men of God) tell little lies every now and then. And I think it's better to tell lie to protect than to tell lies to destroy. Like one of my lecturers back then in the university would illustrate each time he's confronted with similar questions. If, as a good Christian, your pastor rushed into your house gasping for breath and then suddenly a mob appeared and asked if the pastor is here for they need his life. What would be your reply? Your guess is as good as mine... |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Acekidc4(m): 12:10pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Jone shebi u knw say God go bless u wit dis ur Masterpiece Analysis |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by MadCow1: 12:13pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
jonescyras: If a mathematician tells you x + y = 2a, you don't call them liars do you? Law is all about evidence and proof beyond reasonable doubt. That does not make them liars. It's like the George Zimmerman case.. He shot an unarmed black boy but was not found guilty based on a 'stand your ground' law.. That's why lawyers say 'the law is an arse'. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by OLUJOSHINS(m): 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Christianity is not against practising Ur profession as the defender of the defenceless (in court). Everybody has a right to be defended. Even chronic assassins |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by duni04(m): 12:43pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Its like this thread is restricted to litigation lawyers |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by anonimi: 12:45pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Osinbajo on my mind I understand Buhari's Association of Pretending Crooks, APC running mate was Athief'ku's lawyer in 2007 after his electoral loss to Yar'Adua. Then our JagaBandit Asiwaju gave him the Association of Conmen in Nigeria, ACN ticket! |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by dallyemmy: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Lawyers base judgment on facts and not sentiments |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Descartes: 1:11pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
zinny2049: Are you a lawyer too? |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by doingreat(m): 1:28pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FeverRay:I really had to respond to this cos u seem to b one of those who tarnish the image of the profession. wen u were talking about ethics of the law were u talking about the rules of professional conduct? my grouse with u is dat ur not even a lawyer, if u were u must av read rule 15 of the RPC wherein a lawyer is enjoined to defend his client within the bounds of the law. where in the law is a lawyer commanded to defend his client by lieing? THEN to this topic, y do people think that legal practice or litigation is all about defending criminals? criminal law is just less than 10% of wat lawyers do. infact the milk and juice in law is not in defending criminals. ok in a matter of breach of contract wen the contract is embodied in clear documents, and d law is that u cant contradict a document by oral evidence, how do u lie in that matter? moreso, law is the only prifessuon that gives u the highest and broadest career opportunities, there are lawyers dealing with aviation, construction, corporate practice, property etc. so stop thinking litigation is Everyfin, its a small part of legal practice. even in practice, the lawyer does not enter the witness box, the only person that may lie is the client and the job of a good lawyer on the other side is to dismantle those lies. i challenge you, wen u have a case, go to court and lie, and u will melt under the fire of cross examination. where are my 12 cents? |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by doingreat(m): 1:47pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
lawyers lie. yes...but who doesn't? mind you, that lawyers lie does not mean ALL lawyers are liars nor that one MUST lie to make it as a lawyer. corruption and dishonesty is in EVERY profession, its worse even in religion. like Mr Alimi of the NLS Lagos once said, if a man who is a perennial liar becomes a lawyer, will he stop lieing? its just about who u are, lieing and even corruption has nothing to do with ur profession. .....and its really annoying that non-lawyers have, in this thread, become professionals at what happens in the legal profession. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by jonescyras(m): 1:51pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
MadCow1:Clarify this A case was brought up to a lawyer!...... His client intentionally sent some armed gangs to silent a friend of his,(perhaps they were both lobbying for the same political office until his death).....before the armed killers killed the man, they made confession of he who have sent them, unknowingly to them, one of the sons of the man under an abrupt death is hidden somewhere save, he records in a video format everything that happened.....after the long run, the man was assassinated!......... Not quite long, the matter popped up that the man appears in the law court...... Pls, don't bring sentiment into this, how will the alway-tell-true lawyer backup his client without telling lieS? |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Ultimate001: 1:58pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yes, it's very possible and even as a politician. The thing is, nothing on its own is a sin, it's d way we do or use things that makes it a sin. Also, any born-again child of God can function anywhere. Sm pple think politics is an aborminable thing for christian. This is wrong. Our political setting seems to b failing today, simply because it is being anchored and undertaken by the wrong, unchanged and godless people; operating in the flesh. Sinners spoil everything they engage in and so we need changed persons to change Nigeria. Conclusively, you can practise any profession and be successful in it as a born-again Christian; making God famous, alongside. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by goodgood2(m): 1:59pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
finofaya:You've just lied to cover their lies. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by summerflame(m): 2:02pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
@ OP, get this straight into ur skull and brain, profession is different from religion, u don't combine the 2. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Goshen360(m): 2:13pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
summerflame: But what do you do in the case your profession is against your faith? |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by kayphyzee(m): 2:14pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
@op, i'll say capital YES to the topic. What you need to know is that there are different spheres of legal practice. Whichever one you decide to settle for, there is always the opportunity to decipher which brief to take on. Take for instance, a commercial lawyer would have no reason to twist facts beyond his/her clients' instructions which would make such a lawyer a liar. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by summerflame(m): 2:15pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
You don't seems to understand me, Religion is an asect of life, profession is an aspect of life as well, they don't go together. They are just like a 2 parallel lines. Profession don't go against religion and vice versa |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by finofaya: 2:19pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
goodgood2: Which of my claims is a lie? |
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