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Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Goshen360(m): 2:37pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
summerflame: Okay, let's put it this way. prostitu.tion is a profession. What do you do when this is against your faith? Continue? |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by samuelite40: 2:50pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
I'll liking a lawyer to a christian. He knows the Law bt chose not to do what it says. The same is applicable to modern christian who knows the bible but chose not to do what it says. A 'christian lawyer' is by choice. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by summerflame(m): 2:55pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Prostitution is a profession while we practise religion. Am I right?. A prostitute might practise a religion or a religious lady can practise prostitution, it is just a choice. Like we were all born under one or 2 canopy of religion, this iw why they named us something quaranic or biblical, like jezebel in the bible was a prostitute but she doesn't practise religion and there was this lady who was about to be lynched in the bible, she was a LovePeddler but jesus saved her. See religion is an act like I've said before (which can't bring food on ur table), while we practise profession inorder to have a worldly life (I.e feeding, aying bills e.t.c), they are just different. CRITICISM is allowed and correction be be appreciated |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by ruggedlaw(m): 2:56pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Most people really need to get at least a little education on the particular issue they need to confront before displaying their ignorance to the whole world. In Nigeria, when you are called to bar you automatically qualify to practice BOTH as a barrister AND a solicitor. The implication is that you can choose either to practice as a barrister and/or as a solicitor. To the uninitiated, the barrister is the advocate that represents you in court, while the solicitor is the one that drafts your legal documents, e.g land agreements. I will not bore you with the nuances, but I have practiced for 14yrs now WITHOUT ever going to court.......I do not know your definition of being born again, but I believe in my heart that right now if the trumpet sounds, I shall be raptured.....education education education! 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by chigoizie7(m): 3:03pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
U re even going far sef,the bible. Said, thou shall not judge so dat u won't be judge, all judgement. Should be on the last day, dis singular fact alone disqualifies it all |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Nobody: 3:04pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
finofaya: are u saying dat should I murder somebody, a Christian lawyer is not suppose to defend my innocence even when he knows am guilty? |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Goshen360(m): 3:04pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
summerflame: I truly understand your point and I can explain it deeper. The point here is, there're "some" professions e.g, hired assassin, prostitu.tes etc falls in the categories of these 'some' professions that are against one's faith. A Christian cannot remain a Christian and also be a practicing prostitu.te at the same time or be a hired assassin. I don't see both of them mixing together. Btw, I don't see "religion" & "faith" same way as people does. Religion can be a "follow-follow" thing but faith is a way of life\relationship unto\with God. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by chronique(m): 3:08pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Except the lawyer would only be taking up cases of people who have been cheated/unjustly dealt with and their cases are genuine. Taking up cases from clients like Farouk Lawan,Tinubu and their likes,cannot make his boast of being a "true born again". What that means is that,if you must make heaven,do not defend criminals and thieves. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Goshen360(m): 3:12pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
chigoizie7: When you see a word or phrase in scripture. It doesn't automatically mean a "one-size-fits-all" meaning. Allow the context and investigate the meaning when you study. A Christian can judge!!! |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by ultraGM: 3:13pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by finofaya: 3:16pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
correctguy0900: If you are guilty, there is no innocence to defend. Just go and collect your death sentence. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by summerflame(m): 3:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by nlMediator: 4:06pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
ruggedlaw: I agree with your overall sentiment that one can be a successful lawyer without resorting to lying. I disagree with your insinuation that being a solicitor insulates one from the temptation to lie. Solicitors, whether in-house counsel or external solicitors, are often faced with situations where they are asked to do something not exactly truthful to move the transaction forward – doctoring documents, changing dates, fabricating facts, etc. I know a friend who quit (or was fired, if you may, from) a high profile company secretary position in Nigeria because she wouldn’t succumb to illegal acts being suggested by the higher-ups. That said, I think the major impediment to successful legal practice by a Christian in Nigeria is the corrupt court process and corruption in the general environment. Lawyers face undue pressure to bribe judges, even by their own clients. Otherwise, their cases either do not proceed or fail completely. When I recounted a story told me by a lawyer friend in Nigeria this year, the people I was talking to here were looking in disbelief! And these are people born to Nigerian parents here! Congratulations on 14 years of practice! May the Lord continue to supply the strength and wisdom to prevail. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Nobody: 4:42pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
finofaya: dats wot u will tell me as a lawyer when I ask for ur services. are u also saying dat lawyers should only represents dose who innocent in court? dere are no such lawyers doing wot u try picture here. I v been with so many lawyers, no one refuses a case upon d knowledge dat his party is guilty. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by unanonso(m): 4:55pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Money is not the root of all evil but the love of money is.[q uote author=finofaya post=29067589] This your OP should be in the career section. I don't think you've been inside a court room before, judging by the misconception you have about lawyers. I'm sure you realize that a lawyer can resort to lying only when the facts are not in his/her favour. Therefore, you cannot lie when the facts are in your favour. It is not correct to say that lawyers always lie. You have to choose your clients carefully. A lawyer cannot bear false witness anyway, since it is the litigant who gives evidence. If you've heard of appeal, you'd know that a lawyer would have to lie his way through at least three different courts and 8 different judges in order to completely win a case. It is difficult to lie your way to total victory in court. Lawyers also depend on their reputations a lot; if you're a known liar, judges tend to be wary of you and it becomes harder to get away with stuff, meaning less success for you. There are quite a number of lawyers, SAN's even, who are good christians. You have the likes of Ozekhome or Izinyon in this category. A born again christian lawyer should not define career success in terms of money, instead it should be defined by the positive impact you have on the resolution of particular disputes and on the legal system in general. Generally, any person that sets out to make all of the money would not qualify as a born again christian. Money is said to be the root of all evil. You don't have to be a trial lawyer. There are so many other options available to you that don't involve advocacy. A lot of times, litigants think lawyers are telling lies because they fail to grasp that legal requirements for evidence differ from their personal requirements for evidence. So yes, a born again christian, what ever that means, can be a successful lawyer, just as he can be a successful business man. There is nothing about being a lawyer that requires lying.[/quote] |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by finofaya: 5:20pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
correctguy0900: I didn't say a lawyer should refuse a case solely because the client-to-be admits guilt. We aren't even allowed to do that, by our rules. Where do you think I said such a thing? You asked whether a lawyer should defend your innocence after you have committed an offence, to which I replied that you have no innocence to be defended when you have committed an offence. You only have the punishment to receive. In such a case, the lawyer is there just to ensure that you have a fair trial. There are aspects to law other than the criminal though. Some lawyers don't even engage in criminal litigation. 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by MadCow1: 6:10pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
jonescyras: A lawyers first defence would be to challenge the credibility of the person who confessed. That's all.. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by jonescyras(m): 6:42pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
MadCow1:A person who steals and someone who collects the stolen item(s) are both thieves!.....agree or disagree!..... I need not any argument to clear my thirst over this issue!......it had been since time immemorial and will continue to be! |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by AndreRose(f): 7:27pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
finofaya:Having had d privilege of goin tru dis lil piece of urs, I must really commend you for dis. Ppl dnt knw a tin abt being a lawyer and its so disheartening weneva dey mk such outrageous comment(lawyers are liars) . I hope dey cn learn alil frm ur write up. Or beta off try to become a lawyer,den dey wil knw how its done. Once again, nice piece. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by AndreRose(f): 7:33pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
zinny2049:Tell dem o. But well, we cnt really blame dem,dats why dey are called laymen;dey dnt undstnd d procedures. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by loomer: 7:42pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
depends on what you mean by SUCCESSFUL. if na money aspect, NEVER. if na winning cases, PROBABLY. because u go de defend the poor and oppressed. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by finofaya: 8:23pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
AndreRose: Thanks. I doubt they are interested in what we say in our defence though. One guy here even said that we can't help lying despite having the truth on our side in a suit. Its all good. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Orunto: 8:27pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yes. St. Paul was a member of Saheradin, the equivalent of the present day Supreme Court, before he was arrested by Christ Jesus. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by AndreRose(f): 8:55pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
finofaya:Yah. If he wia to be a lawyer he wudnt hv made such comments.. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Claroo(m): 9:34pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
AndreRose:All successful lawyers are also Cultist |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by AndreRose(f): 9:38pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Claroo:Dats wat u tink. Well, I dnt really nid to argue wit an unlearned man on law principles. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Claroo(m): 9:57pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
AndreRose:Haba Learned Colleague.....ma earlier comment is part of d misconception of d laymen |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by AndreRose(f): 10:06pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Claroo:Oh am sorry. Tout u meant odawise. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by nlMediator: 11:01pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
chronique: I believe attorneys-general who are Christians or people of integrity should not defend thieving or criminal governors, etc. Their real client is the people, not the government. A (Christian) lawyer in private practice can legitimately defend a criminal, including one who confessed the crime to him because the defense serves some good purpose: 1) to ask for mitigation. The law often provides a range of sentences and the lawyer can argue for leniency. 2) because committing an act is not the same as committing the crime. A client may have killed his wife's lover in the heat of passion. He may not have committed murder, but perhaps manslaughter. In some cases of say taking an item, it may be that it does not rise to an offense as defined by the applicable statute. A lawyer helps protect the client in such circumstance. 3) to make the prosecution prove its case. Our system of justice is based on the notion that he who alleges must prove. If the prosecution is not made to prove its case when somebody is guilty, we run the risk that there'd be cases when the prosecution would not prove its case when somebody is innocent and yet the innocent is convicted. Proper defense of the guilty eventually protects the innocent. Of course, some lawyers are overzealous and are even excited to defend and protect evil people. A Christian lawyer should let the Holy Spirit guide him. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by dhope: 11:21pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
nice contribution by all. but laywers in d house,I think ure d one dt used to urge client not to hide any info frm u so dt u can defend him well. if a xtian barrister now wait for poor pple to defend in court in dis 'dirty' world where ur service charge can be paid by fraudulent clients (truth be told), how will u survive? if u say dt u dont need money and u dont hav any other means aside dis job, wont u fall into money temptatn by conniving wit ur client by perfecting false testinomies for him to present in court? though d root of all evil is money but u shudnt 4get dt poverty is nt also a frd of man as a hungry man is an angry man. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by Edusouls(m): 11:30pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
noo sir, a born again xtian cant be a successcul lawyer. Lawyers are very highly trained and skilled liars.. |
Re: Is It Possible For A Born Again Xtian To Bcom A Successful Lawyer? by dhope: 11:41pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
my definitn of 'being successful' is nt limited to making money but to hav reached d pinnacle of d career lik dis GMB running mate i.e prof yemi osibanjo.He is reported to be a pastor although it is nt right to judge righteousness of one another but dis man is currently a lead counsel of APC b4 on-going guber election petition tribunal in osogbo.After d court session on friday,he told newsmen APC witnesses performed very well while dey presented their testimonies b4 court which means he might hav known what dey were to tell court. Now what give us assurance dt he might nt hav helped those pple to perfect what to say in court so dt his party wont lose dt case? |
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