Do dead people truly appear or resurface amongst the living? I have heard cases and occasioms where dead people appeared to a living person giving them a message or an information. I'm yet to experience such though. But from the bible : 'it is appointed unto man to die once, after that comes judgement (no room for any other thing)'. Have you had any such encounter with a dead person or heard a reliable story about such? Please share with us

Yea................. I am having a discussion with about 9 of them right now.

Tallesty1:
Yea................. I am having a discussion with about 9 of them right now.

Re u for real?

chibwike:
Re u for real?

He couldn't be.

Elantracey:



He couldn't be.

i sincerely hope so oh

ROSSIKE:
''DO dead people....'' not ''Does''.

noted thanx, Grammar 101

Haven't met any,but i believe they do. . .

if we say it doesnt happen then we are deceiving ourselves. av hrd many case lik dt frm close relatives and av also seen my dad too after he died but what av hrd abt it is dt some demons used to use their appearance/body to move abt. it is part of mystery of dis world dt is beyond human comprehension just lik u sleep and dream without having power to dictate to ur soul where it shud travel to when ur body is in bed.

mostly, this happen during grief and it a normal grief response when you lose someone to see them appear to you.... only when it lasts for long that you become worried cos you might be hallucinating, a psychiatric symptom that might need treatment.... however, there are elemental forces undeniably... peace.

" they are dead, they will not live ; Powerless in death .. They will not rise up" Isa 26:14 !!!

Tallesty1:
Yea................. I am having a discussion with about 9 of them right now.

OYO On Your Own

YES, so called 'dead people' can and do 'appear' to the living. There is no such thing as death. A physical body expires and the immortal soul inhabiting it returns to where it came from. A departed soul capable of slowing down his vibrational rate enough to be seen by humans can appear to us as a 'ghost'. It's figure may appear blurry because the 'ghost' is on a different frequency from physical humans. Think of a TV channel that's not very clear etc. Exact same principles.

In reality, There's no such thing as death! If There's, only those who claim to be alive are indeed dead! Anyone who is truly alive on earth with his or her living spirit is able to see a departed person exactly as the person was while on earth. This does not mean that the seeing person is seeing with his or her physical eyes, but because the person's inner eyes have been opened for that purpose. One out of two people standing together can see a departed person while the other is unable to see. The so-called departed one is not really dead but like one who discards an old clothe that's no longer needed, so he discarded the physical body that was no longer able to produce a necessary harmonious cord out of illness, severe pain or over exploitation of the body, with the soul. There's no separation nor demarcation between the spiritual and physical world. It's only when man is spiritually dead that he lost the abilities to see and hear things from the spiritual worlds. Therefore, the departed one sees and hears everything from the earth, he talks to those still on earth but because of the spiritual death on the part of those still on earth, they lost the ability to see and hear them while they call. Hence it is even those still on earth that are truly dead. Better to die physically than to die spiritually. The moment anyone believes that both visible and invisible worlds are indivisibly one, then marks the beginning of the awakening of that person's spirit! After the physical body, There's another body the spirit wears which comes very closer to the physical body in resemblance. This is known as the (Astral body). This body is still very close to the physical body that's why those who have to descend into hell can still feel pain while in torments and the pain is more severe than what the gross material body feels. This requires a very broad explanation if anyone of you must come closer to the concept and understanding and finally, the recognition of spiritual happenings.

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bsjay:
In reality, There's no such thing as death!

Stop Speakin like dat serpent in Eden, who was deceivin Eve that there is no such thing as death , Saying " You shall surely not die" - Gen 3:4 !!! THEY TRULY DIED AND BOTH RETURN TO WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN . !!!

bsjay:
In reality, There's no such thing as death!

Stop Speakin like dat serpent in Eden, who was deceivin Eve that there is no such thing as death , Saying " You shall surely not die" - Gen 3:4 !!! THEY TRULY DIED AND BOTH RETURN TO The Ground From WHich THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN . Gen 3:19!!! Thus returning to the condition they were before God creates them .

CANTICLES:
Stop Speakin like dat serpent in Eden, who was deceivin Eve that there is no such thing as death , Saying " You shall surely not die" - Gen 3:4 !!! THEY TRULY DIED AND BOTH RETURN TO The Ground From WHich THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN . Gen 3:19!!! Thus returning to the condition they were before God creates them .

Why are u exposing ur utter ignorance? Do u know what the sin against the Holy Spirit is? When the bible says Adam and Eve died after eating the fruit, that does not in any way depict physical death, but spiritual death cos they lost the ability to commune with God through their intuition and also the ability to comprehend things of the spirit from the moment they ate of the fruit. Don't take that story too personal in an earthly sense because it is an allegory which serves to convey spiritual knowledge to man. That story alone interpretes so many things in a spiritual sense.

bsjay:

Why are u exposing ur utter ignorance? Do u know what the sin against the Holy Spirit is? When the bible says Adam and Eve died after eating the fruit, that does not in any way depict physical death, but spiritual death cos they lost the ability to commune with God through their intuition and also the ability to comprehend things of the spirit from the moment they ate of the fruit. Don't take that story too personal in an earthly sense because it is an allegory which serves to convey spiritual knowledge to man. That story alone interpretes so many things in a spiritual sense.

God says they will "die" the day they ate that fruit !!! ....... So he cursed that " they will return to the ground from which they are taken" Gen 3:19 !!!

God said "the day" , when God says a day it = 1000 yrs ( 2pet 3:9) !!! Adam didnt use a day before God !!! He spent 930 years , during which he fulfilled the blessing of multiplyin on earth ........ After this " he died" !!! The curse of death reigns and he "returns to the ground, from which he was taken" Gen 3:19.

By claiming adam lives forever ....... A person automatically grace the devils lie that they "shall surely not die" Gen 3:4 !!! satan Is A Liar

CANTICLES:
Stop Speakin like dat serpent in Eden, who was deceivin Eve that there is no such thing as death , Saying " You shall surely not die" - Gen 3:4 !!! THEY TRULY DIED AND BOTH RETURN TO WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN TAKEN . !!!

When you become spiritually alive and then mature you will understand my assertion.

CANTICLES:


God says they will "die" the day they ate that fruit !!! ....... So he cursed that " they will return to the ground from which they are taken" Gen 3:19 !!!

God said "the day" , when God says a day it = 1000 yrs ( 2pet 3:9) !!! Adam didnt use a day before God !!! He spent 930 years , during which he fulfilled the blessing of multiplyin on earth ........ After this " he died" !!! The curse of death reigns and he "returns to the ground, from which he was taken" Gen 3:19.

By claiming adam lives forever ....... A person automatically grace the devils lie that they "shall surely not die" Gen 3:4 !!! satan Is A Liar

You must be a jehova's witness. My advice to you is, run for your life! Man is a spirit! It is the spirit which animates the physical body and enables it to work and act. The physical body alone comes from the dust and must return there when the spirit in it is done with it while the spirit lives forever. The simple logic of your dream should teach you many lessons. There's nothing as harmful to man as your belief that man ceases to exist after physical death. Am going to post something for you to read and learn a lesson from there.

I don't know but I think once you are dead, you have no communication or whatsoever with the living again.. Shekina

CANTICLES:


God says they will "die" the day they ate that fruit !!! ....... So he cursed that " they will return to the ground from which they are taken" Gen 3:19 !!!

God said "the day" , when God says a day it = 1000 yrs ( 2pet 3:9) !!! Adam didnt use a day before God !!! He spent 930 years , during which he fulfilled the blessing of multiplyin on earth ........ After this " he died" !!! The curse of death reigns and he "returns to the ground, from which he was taken" Gen 3:19.

By claiming adam lives forever ....... A person automatically grace the devils lie that they "shall surely not die" Gen 3:4 !!! satan Is A Liar

DEPARTED THIS LIFE!


PERPLEXED AND LONELY, a soul stands in the chamber of death! Perplexed because the human being lying on the death-bed refused while on earth to believe in the continuity of life after the death of the physical body! He had therefore never seriously considered the matter and ridiculed all who spoke of it.
Confused, he looks around! He sees himself lying on his death-bed, sees people he knows standing about it weeping, hears the words they speak, and senses their grief as they lament his passing. He would like to laugh and call out that he is still alive! He does so, but is surprised to observe that they do not hear him. He calls again and again, louder and ever louder. The people do not hear it, but go on lamenting. Fear begins to arise within him, for he himself hears his own voice quite clearly, and is also distinctly aware of his own body.
Again he calls out in anguish, but nobody pays any attention to him! Weeping, they gaze upon the lifeless body, which he recognises as his own yet suddenly regards as something strange that is no longer part of him, for he now stands beside it in a body free from all the pain he had suffered up till then!
Now he lovingly calls the name of his wife who is kneeling beside the death-bed, but her weeping does not cease and there is no word or movement to show that she has heard him. In desperation he walks up to her and shakes her shoulder vigorously. She does not notice it. He does not know that he is only touching and shaking the ethereal body of his wife, not the physical one, and that the woman, who like him never gave a thought to the existence of anything beyond the physical body, therefore cannot feel his touch upon her ethereal body.
An unspeakable feeling of dread makes him shudder! A feeling of being utterly forsaken makes him so weak that he sinks to the floor and loses consciousness!
The sound of a voice he used to know gradually awakens him again. He sees the body he used on earth surrounded by flowers. He would like to fly away, but he finds it impossible to sever himself from this cold, lifeless body. He distinctly feels he is still connected to it. Again he hears the voice which awoke him from his slumber. It is his friend speaking to another person. They have each brought a wreath and are talking together while laying them down. No one else is in the room.
His friend! He wishes to attract his attention, also that of the other man; they were often welcome guests together in his home. He must tell them that strange as it may seem he is still alive, that he can still hear what they are saying! He calls out! But his friend calmly turns to his companion and goes on talking. But what he says gives him a shock! Is that his friend? Is that the way he talks about him now?
Petrified, he listens to the words of these people with whom he had so often drunk and laughed, and who only flattered him while sitting at his table enjoying the hospitality of his home!
They left and others came. How clearly he could now see through people! So many whom he had highly valued now filled him with disgust and anger, and several whom he had always disregarded he would like to shake hands with gratefully. But they neither heard nor sensed him, although he shrieked and raved at them to prove he was still alive!
In a great procession the body was carried to the grave. He sat astride the coffin! Embittered and desperate, he could now but laugh and laugh! But his laughter quickly gave way to deepest despondency, and a great feeling of desolation assailed him. He became tired and fell asleep.
When he awoke darkness surrounded him. How long he had been asleep he could not tell, but he felt that he could no longer be connected to his physical body, for he was free! But free in a strangely oppressive darkness!
He called out, but no sound came. He could not hear his own voice. He sank back groaning, and in so doing struck his head hard against a sharp stone. When after a long time he awoke once more there was still the same darkness, the same sinister silence. He wanted to jump up, but his limbs were heavy and refused to do their work. With all the strength born of fearful desperation he struggled to his feet, staggering and groping his way to and fro. He often fell down and injured himself, and bumped against corners and edges to right and left, but he was allowed no respite – for a strong urge drove him to grope onwards unceasingly and to seek. To seek! But what? His thinking was confused, tired and without hope. He was seeking something that he could not comprehend. He was seeking!
It drove him onward, ever onward, until he again sank down, only to rise once more and resume his wanderings. Years passed in this way, decades, till finally tears welled up in his eyes and sobs shook his breast and ... a thought arose in him, a petition, the outcry of a tired soul yearning for an end to this condition of dark hopelessness!
This outcry of utter despair and hopeless suffering, however, gave birth to the first thought of longing to escape from this condition. He tried to understand what had brought him to this terrible plight, and what had so cruelly forced him to wander in darkness. Around him he could feel nothing but stark rocks! Was this the earth, or perhaps after all the other world in which he had never been able to believe?
The other world! Then he must be physically dead and yet alive, if he could call this condition being alive! He found thinking the greatest difficulty. And so he groped onwards in his seeking. Again years passed. Oh, for a way out of this darkness! The wish grew into a powerful urge, which gave way to longing. Longing, however, is the purer intuition born out of the coarse urge, and out of this longing very timidly a prayer arose.
Finally this prayer of longing burst forth from him like a spring, and a feeling of soothing, comforting peace, humility and submission, entered his soul. When he arose to continue his wanderings he experienced a warm glow coursing through his body, for now twilight surrounded him and he could suddenly see!
Far away in the distance he recognised a light, like a torch that greeted him. Jubilantly he stretched forth his arms towards it, and filled with deep happiness he again sank down, his heart overflowing with gratitude, and gave thanks to Him Who had granted him this light! With renewed strength he then strode towards the light. It came no nearer to him, but after his experiences he still hoped to reach it even if it should take centuries. What had now happened to him might happen once again, and thus finally lead him out of this stony desert into a warmer and lighter region, if he humbly prayed for it!
“My God, help me in this!” broke forth from his hope-filled breast. And, what joy, he could again hear his own voice! Even though at first quite weak, still he could hear it! His happiness at this gave him new strength, and full of hope he again went forward.
Such is the story of the initial experiences of a soul in the Ethereal World! This soul could not be called bad, on earth he had even been considered very good. He had been the head of a large industrial establishment, always busy and meticulously concerned to comply with the mundane laws.
Let me add an explanation to this case! The man who in his life on earth refuses to acknowledge that there is also life after death, and that sooner or later he will be forced to render account for all that he has done and all that he has left undone, is blind and deaf when he one day has to pass over into the Ethereal World. Only during the days and weeks while he still remains connected with his discarded physical body will he be able partially to observe what goes on around him.
However, once he is free from his disintegrating physical body this possibility is lost to him! He no longer sees or hears anything. That, however, is not punishment, but quite natural, because he did not want to see or hear anything of the Ethereal World. His own will, which can quickly form ethereal matter corresponding to it, prevents his ethereal body from seeing as well as hearing until gradually a change takes place in his soul. Whether this takes years or decades, perhaps even centuries, is the concern of each individual. He can exercise his free will untrammelled. Help will only come to him when he himself longs for it. Not before! It will never be forced upon him!
The light which this soul greeted with such great joy when it started to see again was always there, but previously the soul was unable to see it. This light is also clearer and stronger than it appears at first sight to the hitherto blind soul. How the soul sees it, whether strong or weak, depends entirely on the condition of the soul itself. The light does not come closer of its own accord, but it is there! The soul can enjoy it at any time, if it humbly and earnestly wishes to do so.
However, what I am explaining here applies only to this particular kind of human soul. It does not necessarily apply to others. In the region of darkness and its planes there is no light. There it is impossible for him who advances inwardly to be able suddenly to see the light, for he must first be led out of the surroundings which hold him.
The condition of the soul depicted here may surely be called miserable, because it is filled with a great fear and is void of all hope, but it did not wish it otherwise. It now receives only what it forced upon itself. It had refused to believe in a conscious life after physical death. But the soul cannot abolish this continuation of life for itself, because it has no jurisdiction over it. It only builds for itself a barren ethereal plane, paralysing the senses of the ethereal body, so that it can neither see nor hear ethereally until ... the soul itself finally changes its attitude.
These are the souls which can be found by the million on earth today. Apart from the fact that they refuse all knowledge about God and eternity, they can still be called decent. The fate of the evil-minded is naturally much worse, but we shall not speak about them here, only about the so-called respectable people.
When it is said that God will stretch forth His Hand to help, this is done in the Word which He sends out to mankind, showing them how they can redeem themselves from the guilt in which they have become entangled. From the very beginning He has shown His Mercy in all the great possibilities placed freely at the disposal of human spirits in Creation. This is so overwhelming that the man of today cannot even conceive it because he never concerned himself with it seriously enough! Wherever he did, however, it was only as a pastime or for the purpose of vain self-aggrandisement!
The Grail Message.

kelvinmuffins3:
I don't know but I think once you are dead, you have no communication or whatsoever with the living again.. Shekina

Yes! Because the so-called living has lost his spiritual senses, hence spiritual death! Walking corpse!

bsjay:

Yes! Because the so-called living has lost his spiritual senses, hence spiritual death! Walking corpse!

Ya correct!

bsjay:

Yes! Because the so-called living has lost his spiritual senses, hence spiritual death! Walking corpse!

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Scripture says " Christ DIED and came to life again" Rom 14:9 ..... 1) Is dis scripture lyin by sayin christ died , when he didnt ?

2) Can somone who never died , be said to come to life again ??

Bsjay; on point.
Thanks for bringing enlightenment to them brother.

CANTICLES:
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Scripture says " Christ DIED and came to life again" Rom 14:9 ..... 1) Is dis scripture lyin by sayin christ died , when he didnt ?

2) Can somone who never died , be said to come to life again ??

Brother, when Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus on the mountain after many decades of their physical death before Christ came to earth, with Peter as witness, where did they come from since your religious belief has it that man ceases to exist after physical death? The bible also has it that Saul invoked the spirit of Samuel and he came forth, where did Samuel come from? Why have you people made yourselves cheap victims of Mr Russell's ignorance? Time is more than short and every seconds is far too precious to be wasted on false doctrine. Therefore awake and accept the sad Truth as It really is for your own good.

CANTICLES:
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Scripture says " Christ DIED and came to life again" Rom 14:9 ..... 1) Is dis scripture lyin by sayin christ died , when he didnt ?

2) Can somone who never died , be said to come to life again ??

Again, scripture says, scripture says. Don't forget that one of the writers of the scriptures made a statement like: "For we know in parts, but when that which is perfect is come, that which is in parts shall be done away with!"
Jesus also said in John16:12-15 thus: I have yet other things to say to you but ye cannot bear them now; howbeit, when He the Spirit of Truth is come, He shall guide you into all Truths and show you more things to come,....
Seek and ye shall find.

bsjay:

Brother, when Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus on the mountain after many decades of their physical death before Christ came to earth, with Peter as witness, where did they come from since your religious belief has it that man ceases to exist after physical death?

You wrongly thought moses and Elijah went to heaven ... Oops wrong! Jesus states clearly: " NO MAN has ever been to heaven" Joh 3:13!

About their appearin to Jesus , didnt u read that what happen on that mountain was just a " VISION" matt 17:9 !!!

The bible also has it that Saul invoked the spirit of Samuel and he came forth, where did Samuel come from? .

Saul make enquiry through a satanic medium and a witchcraft that promotes the lie that humans do not die ,a witchdoctor !!! NOT From God ...... Its a deceit from demons and thats why God himself banned the act of tryin to speak with the dead(ISAIAH 8:19,LEVITICUS 19:31 READ PLS)!! "dead knows nothin"Ecc9:5

@Canticles

My brother, even the gods themselves fight in vain against stupidity! But before I draw my curtain against you, I wish to enlighten you a little more, not to force you to believe it but to help you add still more to your already incurred guilts caused by the indolence of your spirit and ignorance.
Christ said no man hath ascended to Heaven except the Son of Man which came down from there.
Now get this, the Heaven Jesus refered to in that statement is the Abode of the Almighty Father which is not accessible to anyone except Those belonging there which are God the Father Himself, Jesus the Son, Imanuel the Holy Spirit. With this I wish to offer you a glimpse on the Order of Things both in the Divine and Spiritual Creation.
God as the Highest and Starting Point of all that exist is the Divine Unsubstantiate. To this belong God the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. Don't forget that I said "Divine Unsubstantiate"!
Follows downward after Him is the Divine Substantiality. To this belong the Queen of Heaven, the Archangels and the Elders.
Outside the Divine Spheres downwards are the Primordial Spiritual Creation. The first and original Creation to come into existence at God's decree "let there be light!". To this belong the eternal created Primordial Spirit Beings Who never descended to the earth.
Follows downward from the Primordial Spiritual Creation is the Spiritual Creation where the Human Spirits Paradise is situated, and where all human beings on earth started their journey as unconscious spirit seed down to the earth for the purpose of development, maturity and perfection in order to be able to after fulfilling their purpose, return home to where they came from as conscious human spirits.
This Paradise as the origin of man is where he should return if he passes in the Judgment of God and can never cross upwards to the Primordial Spiritual Creations nor into the Divine Spheres.
Downwards from this Spiritual Substantiality where the human spirits Paradise is situated follows the Ring of Animistic Substantiality, where the Elemental Beings, Nature Beings and finally, the souls of animals have their origin.
Below this Ring of Animistic Substantiality is the Ethereal Worlds, the Universe with the physical earth as a small part of It. With this I open the book of Creation before your eyes which you should learn so much and also gain so much if you are not completely spiritually dead.
In all these Planes of Creation operates the Will of God which manifest as the Adamantine and Incorruptible Laws such as: the Law of Reciprocal Action, the Law of Attraction of Homogeneous Species and the Law of Spiritual Gravitation +so many other Laws working silently.
If only you could think seriously you would know that the appearance of Moses and Elijah to Jesus on the mountain which you consider to be a mere vision is on your part of belief nothing but foolishness in the highest order. First of all, check in your English dictionary what the word "vision" implies.
I am induced to reveal this knowledge to you even though it seems already like casting pearl before swine.
Those whom Jesus said: "If I have told you of earthly things and ye believe me not, how will you believe me if I tell you of heavenly things?" were not in anyway worse than all of you clinging to Mr Russell's doctrine. They were all spiritually dead and could not even recognise the Son of God when He walked among them because they were void of all the abilities to comprehend spiritual things because of their (I know all mentality) just as you are today.
I only wish that God have mercy on you!
Byeeeeeeee.