Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by FreeGlobe(f): 10:11pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
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Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 10:11pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
waternogeteneny:
Just to reiterate.
We all watched u post pics of Biafra starving children and saw the satisfaction u got from that suffering. We see the satisfaction the Northerner get wen they murder scores of defenceless women and children. Tell us wat caused that? Wat cause the black man to like light skin and value it over pigmentation of black skin.
U are the problem not me, ur greed is the problem not me claiming my own right. Igbos have not had the Presidency and will have our turn before it moves on.
U will do well to avoid me in life or cyber space, mean while, ur sarduana is burning in hell. lol... me posting pics of starving biafran children... me of all persons,,, u re mistaking Mr for sm1 else. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 10:12pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
fx45:
Olodo! What makes U think I'm a man? bwahahahahahaha!!!! So you're a woman or probably a hemaphrodite? LMAO!! Ochi ato gbu o la nu meeee!!!! ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by FreeGlobe(f): 10:15pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yeske2: Hold your peace, do you live in Onitsha to know the opinion of the people around here or anywhere around the SE. Infrastructure like which roads, empty port, painted airport or a remodeled secondary school called a university? You guys should please do the needful abeg. wtf are you saying? So what infrastructure did Buhari give the SE during his islamic rule? I'm beginning to doubt your igboness, you'll soon be banished from that Anambra thread. 4 Likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by cheruv: 10:16pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
fairheven:
Truncating democracy..well that was the worst democratic government we have witnessed,buhari did just the right tin. Shagari's administration wud have led to Nigeria's disintegration,but tank god for Buhari. stop peddling lies!!! ![angry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/angry.png) |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 10:18pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
mensdept: You talk about the Jews. Well the Jews were not installing idiots like Theodore Orji as leaders of territories, nor old 80 yr old hags like Elechi either. They were not fighting to create worthless states as their 6th state for personal gain, nor were they decamping left and right like Amaechi and Okorocha with no purpose or end result.
Ndigbo are quick to claim Hebrew descent, but as of today, they are there worse enemies.
You sound really pathetic. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yoritshekiri: 10:19pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FreeGlobe:
wtf are you saying? So what infrastructure did Buhari give the SE during his islamic rule? I'm beginning to doubt your igboness, you'll soon be banished from that Anambra thread. They will never answer. GEJ has started the reconstruction of most bad roads in the south east this dry season. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 10:22pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
nku5:
Do you? What is their opinion then if you do? Yeske2: Hold your peace, do you live in Onitsha to know the opinion of the people around here or anywhere around the SE. Infrastructures like which roads, empty port, painted airport or a remodeled secondary school called a university? You guys should please do the needful abeg. [quote author=nku5 post=29090155][/quote]Nothing to offer aside ministerial appointments, what else? We live here and we know what people are beginning to say.Gej may win the SE next year but not the magical 98-99% he got last time. His kinsmen like Asari Dokubo chastises him but no onye Igbo would dare as if he's he's your Jesus. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 10:24pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yoritshekiri:
They will never answer. GEJ has started the reconstruction of most bad roads in the south east this dry season. he started construction of most roads in the south east 2 months to election... y he has been in power for more than 5 years... it's quite suspicious. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by jaysniggs: 10:24pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
phantom: the following post is from a friend on facebook and is directed at our kinsmen,the igbos! enjoy!!! N/B: i highlighted some important points
I will start this write-up with the analogy of the broken down clock for the sole reason that I do not intend this post to be an avenue for stereo-typing the igbos, but as an avenue for we from the South East region to tell ourselves some home-truth (like every race or ethnic group does from time to time) and stop what seems to be an exercise in self ridicule. Now, to the analogy of the broken down clock:
A broken down clock we all know cannot be relied on for telling the time of the day, especially for those who know its state of function. But regardless of that state of function, we all know it has its fingers pointing at some random time, which is usually the time at which it broke down. Lets just say for the sake of this write-up, our clock broke down at exactly 4 o' clock.
A stranger who comes into the house at time of say 3.55 (am or pm), 4.00 (am or pm), 4.05 (am or pm) would see the clock as still correct, or even accurate if he came in at exactly 4.00 (am or pm), but the owner of the house knows the true state of the clock, and the stranger would need to stay longer to know the clock is truly broken down. But the truth is, as a time piece, I was correct twice for the day. At every other time, it was on the WRONG side of time.
In Nigeria, we have many people who analyse like broken down clocks. They seem to be correct not because they possess sterling analytical power, but because the situation which serves their myopic view speaks for itself. Once their position is on the wrong side of the argument, they cannot be fixed. We have them all over Nigeria, from those who rightly presently demand GEJ to be sacked at the polls in 2015 (but for some reason, supported a moribound Umaru Musa Yar Adua to rule Nigeria from his death bed), to those who called for GEJ's impeachment (but threatened the coporate existence of Nigeria should OBJ be impeached, remember OPC's famous "impeach OBJ, impeach Nigeria declaration). Yes, I know, many of them are "making sense" now, and are "gbaming", mass "liking", and high fiving each others' write-ups, but we who live in the house know their "broken down" antecedents, and I know they will be the new problem should an APC leadership begin to derail, should they take over in 2015. But for now, the broken down time piece is telling the correct time, and I hope the clocks that are working correctly will be there to tell the time when real time goes past the hour. It is these people that will eventually save the nation from itself.
But, lets leave those alone for now, its time to address those who seem to be on the wrong side of time......... Now, we are all aware that GEJ has the most ardent support from the South East. On the surface, that is not a bad thing, everybody has a right to support a candidate of his own choice, and GEJ has the constitutional right to contest, but the reason behind such quickly betrays a sense of hatred, fear and insecurity around such support. The strong emotion with which they respond to their fellow south-easterners who try to be different betrays the ultimate fact that they are really neo-phytes when it comes to reading the political terrain.
These people are so locked in 1966, they forget they are falling into the same mistake of the Northern avengers of 1966, who thought they were doing justice to alleged Igbo domination, but ended up ruining Nigeria and the North even more. These people were seriously calling for devolution of powers and resource control, but do not realise that 2 southern Presidents (one from the Niger Delta) have failed to bring about a satisfactory form of federalism, now they seek to dominate that centre which they alleged to hate so much, when they had ample time to pursue their legitimate interest.
You claim GEJ has done a lot for the igbos more than any President. Well, in terms of appointments, he may have, and there is a psychological feeling about occupying a post whose elusion is thought to be a conspiracy of some sorts, but that is where it ends. It doesn't put food on the table of the average Igbo man more than it does for the Igala man or Jukun woman. And the Airport? [b]Thanks, but apart from that, what else? PTF did much more when oil was less than $20 a barrel. Much more for the common man, the 90% who probably will never use an airport. Roads in the South East remain deplorable, and the Second Niger Bridge is now so notorious a project, any Leader who wants to do the igbos "longer-throat" just needs to say "second Niger Bridge" and he will get our ears. [/b]Remember GEJ said he either completes the Second Niger Bridge by 2015 or he goes to exile. Does it look like all the sand and run down facilities in that area will suddenly become a bridge in 2015? And must it always be about roads and bridges? Dem born us born cement and concrete? What has he done for health that the igbos can shout alleluyah in particular? What about electricity? Does the East have more power supply than the rest of Nigeria? Are Igbo business-men selling more goods more than ever before? Are we buying agricultural produce cheaper than the rest of the country? Is Abakaliki rice more plentiful now than before? Why are our expectations so shallow?
You argue that he is one of us, that he is Igbo. I have never seen any argument betraying more confusion than this. GEJ is not Igbo. He is not even IJAW. He is an OGBIA man, an ethnic group of about 250,000. He has no Igbo name given to him from birth. AZIKIWE is a PET NAME given to him by his mother, because he smiled like the then famous Nnamdi Azikiwe. I had a school mate of COMPLETE Igbo blood in my days in UNEC whose nick-name was ABACHA simply because of his mannerisms. His birth certificate had no Abacha written on it. Meanwhile, it may interest you to know GEJ never took the AZIKIWE name seriously even while he was Governor of Bayelsa and Acting President, but I guess because of people like you, his sudden adoption of the name yielded dividends, and is about to yield further dividends because you cannot see beyond your nose.
Then the second name EBELE. Some un-informed people have called it EBELE-CHUKWU in the past. Well, that is wrong. It is actually EBELEMI, a full nomenclature in OGBIA language. So before you campaign, at least get your facts right.
Another argument, is that we the igbos need to be at peace with our neighbours. I say, it is fine to be at peace, but not to the point of black-mail. Peace without Justice is peace of the grave-yard. [b]Yes, we have a right to support our neighbours, but some of us can also remember that those our neighbours who we desperately want to be at peace with, actually had a voting pattern in the past which was automatically against any candidate who came from the South East. Go and check your records of voting patterns from 1979 elections to 2011. I wont go into the various avenues at which we were sabotaged during the unfortunate civil war. And the abandoned properties nko? Have they given us back? Even the Late Ken Saro-Wiwa, an Ogoni man (our neighbours) "occupied" a house "abandoned" by an Igbo-man when the civil war started. So, how exactly do you define living in genuine peace? Only when it benefits one person? Yes, by-gones should be by-gones, but my common sense still remains. If you want to dig up the role of the Hausas in that event, then let us complete the whole process, then the Efiks and Ibibios will also remind us (the Igbos) of the atrocities we committed against them as well.[/b]
It would have been different if it was a Murtala Mohammed contesting (the man who was responsible for the execution of almost 2,000 unarmed civillians in Asaba during the civil war), or if Buhari had any specific war crime to his name. But that is not the case. In politics, the duration of friendship or enmity is not permanent. What is permanent is INTEREST.
My arch-enemy of yesterday can become my friend today if I rightly identify my interest. Its for this same reason:
1. The Germans and the Jews (Isrealis) are friends and vital business partners today, despite the fact that the Germans gassed 6 million jews to death, with the intention of wiping them off the planet.
2. The Americans fought a bitter war of independence with the imperial British. Today, their alliance is one of the closest and most reliable on the planet.
3. England and France fought a war that lasted 100 years (yes 100). Yet today, one of the most technologically advanced tunnels connects both countries.
I can go on and on and on about how enmities of yesterday have become formidable alliances today based on common sense and identification of objective, legitimate interest. So don't go about calling an Igbo man using his common sense an EFULEFU. You are the one who is lost in the past. This person is a just right thinking Nigerian. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Calculia: 10:26pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Let us not forget the conversion of Enugu into an aviation hub. They nearly killed Stella Oduah for dat. Enugu International Airport nearing completion. We have got more from GEJ than all the previous president put together. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 10:26pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yoritshekiri:
They will never answer. GEJ has started the reconstruction of most bad roads in the south east this dry season. Constructions he just started two weeks ago and would be abandoned after may next year, what was he doing for the past six years? Dancing in Kano i guess 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by nku5: 10:28pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
@Yeske2 - I see you amended your post after I replied you. Read am again I said clearly that not much has been done in the east. For you to use FG infrastructural projects or lack of as a gauge for SE feelings towards GEJ makes me wonder your knowledge of the SE. Since independence if you don't know (especially after the war) ndi igbo have not waited for or depended on FG feeding bottle.
Did ndi Imo state not build an airport from their own private pockets?? |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by FreeGlobe(f): 10:30pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yeske2: Nothing to offer aside ministerial appointments, what else? We live here and we know what people are beginning to say.Gej may win the SE next year but not the magical 98-99% he got last time. His kinsmen like Asari Dokubo chastises him but no onye Igbo would dare as if he's he's your Jesus. so you agree there are ministerial appointments. GEJ has empowered more igbos than any president in history. Don't come here deceiving people claiming you stay in onitsha as the average igbo man will vote a goat than vote Hausa/Yoruba presidency. This time Jonathan will even win 99.8%, with the .2 going to you dull and inconsequential SE residents. keep deceiving your deluded self. 2 Likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
lygn19: he started construction of most roads in the south east 2 months to election... y he has been in power for more than 5 years... it's quite suspicious. it was only announced that a contract has been signed for the rehabilitation of a section of the PH- Enugu road. I do not see any work commencing on that road soon. It is all a political scam to deceive Igbos. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 10:32pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FreeGlobe:
wtf are you saying? So what infrastructure did Buhari give the SE during his islamic rule? I'm beginning to doubt your igboness, you'll soon be banished from that Anambra thread. And WTF has you Jesus or God or whatever given the SE after six years plus two years as VP? Where do you stay in the SE? |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by nku5: 10:34pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yeske2: Nothing to offer aside ministerial appointments, what else? We live here and we know what people are beginning to say.Gej may win the SE next year but not the magical 98-99% he got last time. His kinsmen like Asari Dokubo chastises him but no onye Igbo would dare as if he's he's your Jesus. We are saying the same thing. Its obvious he has done more for the north and the SW than the SE no argument for that one. But to allege that ppl in the SE don't like GEJ anymore is a major fallacy |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 10:37pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FreeGlobe:
so you agree there are ministerial appointments. GEJ has empowered more igbos than any president in history. Don't come here deceiving people claiming you stay in onitsha as the average igbo man will vote a goat than vote Hausa/Yoruba presidency. This time Jonathan will even win 99.8%, with the .2 going to you dull and inconsequential SE residents. keep deceiving your deluded self. Olodo, check the Anambra thread and see pix i post and stuff to tell you i stay here, I'm based here, not like you typing from God knows where but knows the heartbeat of the people here. 100% in your dreams |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by FreeGlobe(f): 10:42pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yeske2: And WTF has you Jesus or God or whatever given the SE after six years plus two years as VP? Where do you stay in the SE? You are clearly a victim of the SW media with the rubbish you type. While your Islamic fundermentalist saviour that will save Nigeria failed to award a single project in the East during his rule while tarring all the roads in the north with ptf money, GEJ has upgraded the Enugu airport, the started onitsha/Enugu expressway from the onitsha axis, empowered more igbos (today we have more legitimate igbo billionaires), supported innoson vision, honored igbo sons esp Achebe when the Hausa/Yorubas caucus thought otherwise. And yet in your widest imagination you think we will leave him and go back to Hausa/Yorubas presidency? you must be a clown! 5 Likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 10:44pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
nku5:
We are saying the same thing. Its obvious he has done more for the north and the SW than the SE no argument for that one. But to allege that ppl in the SE don't like GEJ anymore is a major fallacy He's done nothing for anyone but his cronies, travel in a bus from Onitsha to Enugu and hear people's complaints. He does not care about the SE. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by cheruv: 10:47pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
all I can see is cheap blackmail against the Igbo nation and this is aided by Igbo Quislings like berem.the OP shouldn't ve said 1966 but 1001AD so that we know how backward we're. the 30M Igbos resident in Nigeria should give GEJ 99% in votes lemme see what would happen!! ![angry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/angry.png) 1 Like |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by FreeGlobe(f): 10:49pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yeske2: He's done nothing for anyone but his cronies, travel in a bus from Onitsha to Enugu and hear people's complaints. He does not care about the SE. so in the bus they said they would vote Buhari instead? Next time your in that bus raise the topic of Buhari and tell us later how it went. lol. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Aegon(m): 10:52pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
No amount of subtle blackmail in this article will change our Igbo votes for GEJ. We support the President to the end why? Because he supports our businesses by providing a level playing environment. Mostly because he's the most abused and persecuted leader in Nigerian history.
Since its an open secret that any policy that may favour the Igbo however marginally is fiercely resisted in Abuja by the yoru- Fulani I will be the last idiot to cast my vote in support for such a people to ascend to power.
Mr Op even if buhari supporters like you are threatening subtly that the Yoruba will do another Awolowo starvation and twenty pounds should APC win, I'm not buying it.
Even if you subtly say that he's a Niger Deltan who's people were saboteurs during the civil war and shouldn't be trusyed, its not lost on me.
If you think ethnicity shouldn't be an issue in my voting pattern please take that sermon to Ibrahim Commassie of the Arewa Consultative Forum and Junaid Mohamed of the Northern elders Forum or The Afenifere. These three have openly adopted their candidate of choice and we all know who and on what basis.
Don't get me wrong Buhari is not a bad guy either, I feel he's been unjustly treated by bad propaganda of religious fanaticism. I feel pity for him at times. I wish it were otherwise i'd have voted for him but I realize if I vote Buhari I vote for Tinubu too, No way.
It would have been a tough choice but Buharis backers sealed the deal in favour of GEJ. 2 Likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 10:54pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FreeGlobe:
You are clearly a victim of the SW media with the rubbish you type. While your Islamic fundermentalist saviour that will save Nigeria failed to award a single project in the East during his rule while tarring all the roads in the north with ptf money, GEJ has upgraded the Enugu airport, the started onitsha/Enugu expressway from the onitsha axis, empowered more igbos (today we have more legitimate igbo billionaires), supported innoson vision, honored igbo sons esp Achebe when the Hausa/Yorubas caucus thought otherwise. And yet in your widest imagination you think we will leave him and go back to Hausa/Yorubas presidency? you must be a clown! Go ethnic or religious as others, e no concern me. Started Onitsha-Enugu because of election just weeks ago, a road that was better in 2011 than today,what happened years back? Airport that gets flooded after rain, even Lagos, Abuja and PH airports airports couldn't make the best ten in Africa, Onitsha and Awka axis was taken up by the state government because the clueless one knows nothing about it. Where do you stay in the SE sef Bros |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by ifechez: 10:57pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
berem: it was only announced that a contract has been signed for the rehabilitation of a section of the PH- Enugu road. I do not see any work commencing on that road soon. It is all a political scam to deceive Igbos. This yartibar woman. You always talk poooo. Have you used that road recently? Setraco is seriously working on that road. I travelled from Ph to Enugu last week for my cousin's wedding and I used the road. Great work has been done on that road. Say what you know about. T 3 Likes |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 10:57pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FreeGlobe:
so in the bus they said they would vote Buhari instead? Next time your in that bus raise the topic of Buhari and tell us later how it went. lol. Bros where you dey for Alaigbo, no vex |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Veckylord(m): 11:00pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
FreeGlobe:
wtf are you saying? So what infrastructure did Buhari give the SE during his islamic rule? I'm beginning to doubt your igboness, you'll soon be banished from that Anambra thread. you see wat i dont like about pro-gej supporters once u are on a diff view they will start questioning ur ethinicity. WELL AS FOR ME BOTH GOATLUCK AND BUHA-RAM ARE CRIMINALS |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 11:02pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
nku5: @Yeske2 - I see you amended your post after I replied you. Read am again I said clearly that not much has been done in the east. For you to use FG infrastructural projects or lack of as a gauge for SE feelings towards GEJ makes me wonder your knowledge of the SE. Since independence if you don't know (especially after the war) ndi igbo have not waited for or depended on FG feeding bottle.
Did ndi Imo state not build an airport from their own private pockets?? Didn't see it before i ammended, so sorry |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 11:05pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Veckylord: you see wat i dont like about pro-gej supporters once u are on a diff view they will start questioning ur ethinicity. WELL AS FOR ME BOTH GOATLUCK AND BUHA-RAM ARE CRIMINALS Dear, let them call me Fulani tomorrow, I no send. The irony is that 99% of the saTANists don't stay 100 km close to the SE but they know better than those on ground. |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by Yeske2(m): 11:08pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
ifechez:
This yartibar woman. You always talk poooo. Have you used that road recently? Setraco is seriously working on that road. I travelled from Ph to Enugu last week for my cousin's wedding and I used the road. Great work has been done on that road. Say what you know about. T Shut up, i passed that road last week and i wouldn't want to snap any pix because of what i saw. Disprove by giving us live pix if dem born you well |
Re: The Igbos: Are We Guided By Memory, Or Blinded By Bitterness? by FreeGlobe(f): 11:11pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yeske2: Go ethnic or religious as others, e no concern me. Started Onitsha-Enugu because of election just weeks ago, a road that was better in 2011 than today,what happened years back? Airport that gets flooded after rain, even Lagos, Abuja and PH airports airports couldn't make the best ten in Africa, Onitsha and Awka axis was taken up by the state government because the clueless one knows nothing about it. Where do you stay in the SE sef Bros I'm from Anambra. I visit home as often as I can and I see things for myself not by what SW media feeds me. The roads that were contructed from onitsha headbridge is a FG project. Now you are talking about flooding of Enugu airport, not its new international status and upgrade after over 38 years of yorubas/Fulani leadership. How many times have the airport been flooded. how many times did Lagos, Abuja and PH airports make top 10 in Africa during Buhari, obasanjo etc rules? I will probably not reply you again |