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Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 2:10pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
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Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 2:17pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Lol, Obama just disgraced black men and black skin worldwide, with this statement. Why didn't someone give him the teleprompter? Obama, stop it - your sanctions aren't working. Saudi Arabia's manipulation of oil prices to destroy the fracking market, coupled with the doofus in-charge of the Russian central bank, and stock market(Wall Street and London) manipulations threw the Tsunami at the Ruble, not your sanctions. Expected cos the Russian economy isn't that diversified. However, I believe they'll start the diversification drive now. Err, how can Obama in one breath say, "Sanctions have never worked and will never work against little Cuba" and in the next one assert that, "sanctions are biting Russia?" C'mon Obama, rep us better, my nyggah and big brother. We love you! Putin is still the master of chess - I can't wait to see his next move. Learning from the great Messr Putin! ![]() 14 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by vedaxcool(m): 2:38pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
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Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 2:46pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
vedaxcool: The neo-cons won't change anything. Both neo-cons and neo-liberals are two sides to the same coin. Albeit the neo-cons are just hawkish in their approach. Also, they have a fragile world economy to deal with, and the world economy is on the verge of going bust again. Germany is about to hit an all time low, and once it goes down, the Eurozone should follow. And the ricochet effect should affect everyone. The fracking ruse is about to be busted - if oil prices remain low, and Saudi Arabia refuses to stop pumping oil. Err, wasn't Bush the leader when Putin went to war with Georgia? What did he do apart from pout? Posturing is different from reality. It was all a dream! ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by vedaxcool(m): 3:01pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex: Last I check Afghanistan cave men ruined the USSR, Ukraine would prove something else the moment the us supply weapons to porochenko infant, Putin rouble trouble would double. Putin better make hay while Obama shines else more radical elements are prowling around the corner. And like you said of Saudi keeps pumping oil, prices remain low Putin stupidity remains unfinancable. Win win for all. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 3:13pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
vedaxcool: Afghanistan has always been the place where civilisations/empires are buried. The British Empire died in Afghanistan. Soviet Union was buried there. And America is in a debt hole, it will never be able to climb out of, due to the same place. Etc. Petrodollar/fiat is what's keeping America afloat. The Chinese are coming. So, don't underestimate Afghanistan. Russia will diversify its economy sooner or later...and I think this will push them to hasten the process. Disappointment sometimes is actually a blessing in disguise. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by oduastates: 3:16pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex:You have been watching too much of foxnews.You sound like a teabagger. Was the crude oil even worth $60 a barrel? The Western establishment simply allow their banks to use speculation in commodities to repair their balance sheet after the recession . 5 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 3:18pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
oduastates: Out of ya depth, mate. Stick to Nigerian and Odua politics. Thanks and don't let the door hit you on ya way out. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Ikengawo: 3:20pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex:LOL 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by signz: 3:23pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
oduastates: I'll really appreciate it if you explain in layman's term what you mean. Thanks |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by bjdon: 3:23pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex: You do know that Russia is actually a 'dying' country. It's population is contracting due to low birth rates and drug/alcohol abuse. Putin had a chance over the last decade to create a diversified economic super power but he blew it. It's back to bread queues for the Russians. As for Obama much as I like the guy, sometimes he makes Goodluck seem clever. The guy really needs to talk less. 2 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by oduastates: 3:33pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex: Haha ........funny. Funny but petty. You are actually the one who is out of his depth. On knowing how the world works , I am no mate of yours and I am not boasting . I am no mate of most on these stuffs. Going on about Teleprompter? What about Talking about the facts rather talking about drama and style. Reads like something you would read on beibert.com ,the land of teabaggers E.g http://www.teapartynation.com/m/blogpost?id=3355873%3ABlogPost%3A2851064 http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/10/26/obama-and-teleprompters-transparency-and-the-grand-illusion/ You better change where you get your news . Putin chess-master indeed. Even Apple suspended the sale of APPS in Russia 2 days ago . Stores shelf are getting stripped and warehouses empty because Russia like nigeria makes nothing and imports everything . With the currency tumbling every second. No one wants to do business. The only person Putin is playing chess with is himself and winning in his own head. The geopolitical movement in the Americas in last week alone is enough. The Putin who is already begging through back channels (Angela merkel) . His economy is not an only tanking , Obama also checkmated him on Cuba neutralising the efforts of Putin to reopen soviet era spy bereau in Havana. FARC rebels in Columbia (Affliated to Cuba ) agreed a universal ceasefire . Make Venezuela withdraw the offer of naval base to Russia. Not only is Russia economy tanking , sanctions are killing/preventing Russian companies from borrowing or refinancing their debts( mostly dollars and euro denominated debts.) While keeping Russia busy in Ukraine and at home, Obama has time to deal with the Middle east and the Americas. 16 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by oduastates: 3:40pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
signz:. I will break it down for you , give you a few books you can read and investigative journalist ,activist and bloggers you can follow. Be back in a moment . You remember that guy in Tunisia who set himself on fire which was the catalyst to all the upheaval in the Middle East. That occurrence in isolation ,means absolutely nothing. But when combined to the increase in the price of wheat and other essentials in the lead up to the global recession , and the dictatorship in all the Arab countries, it becomes more apparent the kind of power global finance( Wall Street ) has on the globe. Just before Lehman brothers fell , the masters of the universe already knew what was coming . mortgages having become toxic meant alternatives had to be found to make money( these guys only care about their end of the year multi billion dollars bonuses). The investment banker moved massively into commodities, driving everything from crude oil , steel ,wheat , rice , cocoa etc , driving prices sky high and breaking the laws of demand and supply. speculation. People were buying and selling commodities(papers) without even as much as seeing it . Crude oil was being bought and traded within seconds of leaving the Derrick. Typical transaction Say , you buy oil for 1 naira. You sell same to me for N2 . Another person comes and buy from me for N3 , another N4,.......... N5 , N6............. Then you decide to buy the same oil from the 6th buyer for N20 because you can find some to buy it for 25. Same oil being passed around without any value being added ,within a period of 24hrs. Commodities were parked in warehouses , crude oil tankers were parked offshore just for speculation purposes. Basically for buying and selling papers purposes. The selling of derivatives( useless mortgages based securities) or useless papers was what blew up the us economy. You are essentially paying taxes to these banks . Their profits is your misery . The U.S. government looked the other way because the bankers have congress and most parts of the U.S government on vice-like grip. The crash With the government incapable of handing tax- payers money directly to these banks , they had to do this in subtle ways. This included allowing them to continue speculating and continue driving the price of commodities sky high, while suckers pay( maga trying play in a rigged market). In other words , these US banks can bring down any individual ,company and country at anytime. In Russia's case , very easy.simply play with their source of income (crude oil). Books Griftopia Free lunch(Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense) Too big to fail Journalist Matt taibbi Robert reich Naomi Klein Paul krugman Podcast Bill moyers and company Truth dig Democracy now. The best of the left The Young Turk In fact , go and read Matt taibbi articles from 2008 , 2009 ,2010. He breaks everything down in street language. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/exclusive-excerpt-america-on-sale-from-matt-taibbis-griftopia-20101018?page=2 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405 http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817?print=true http://www.commondreams.org/views/2009/03/22/big-takeover-how-wall-street-insiders-are-using-bailout-stage-revolution 21 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by signz: 3:44pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
oduastates: ok thanks |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 3:48pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
bjdon: The low birth rate issue isn't just as Russian thing, it's the same with all white people everywhere, especially Europe. And Russia isn't even on the list of top ten countries with low birth rates. I think that was why Putin had to put a control on homosexuality campaigns, and encouraged immigration. What chance though? I'm sure you know that during the Yeltsin era, all Russian assets were auctioned off by the IMF/World-Bank, and that was how the oligarchs gained control of everything. Heck, even right now, Putin still doesn't have control over the country's central bank, and most of its financial sector. And he tried diversifying it by integrating the Russian economy, with the west. Can you see how the yanks paid him back? If Europe ever gets off US domination - European and Russian integration looks like the holy grail for everyone and prosperity. Anyway, it's linking up with China now. Russians are tough people - they won't feel it. Only the oligarchs will see their net-worth crumble. Also, this kind of put Europe on a rough patch cos Russia helped bail the Eurozone out during the last global financial crisis. |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 3:49pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
oduastates: Ok, Odua States. When are we declaring Odua Republic? - that's what I'm interested in. ![]() Future Mayor of Ijebu province right here - salute! ![]() |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 4:13pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
I think Obama made good use of the rook against Putin this time around. The Chess is no longer Russian president best game as he just made mess of his ability to play. Go Obama! I am with you on this one! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Adminisher: 4:13pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex: Were you there when the Saudis were intimating their plans to the US?. You do not see that the US, Europe and the Saudis are the main planners and winners in this and all their enemies are being taken down at the same time in o me fell swoop. All they lose is some money but the dollar has appreciated in valie which they apply and channel to support their local Shale Oil and gas companies temporarily while the losers are Russia whose foreign reserves have dropped o about $390B-) because of both US sanctions and the oil price, Iran which is losing massive oil revenues and non Arab oil countries like Nigeria, Venezuela, Brazil and Mexico. Meanwhile the US is pulling Cuba closer and with a weak Russia they are poised to become a supplier of oil and gas to that island country replacing hapless Venezuela. No my friend, Russia acted macho and has lost the plot, economic ruination is more destructive than military pyrotechnics. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 4:22pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Adminisher: Well, it cost about $50-100 to drill shale gas, and if the oil prices remain the same - shale gas industry should go bust soon. Can you see why the low oil prices will affect everyone on the long run? The dollar appreciated on paper, due to excessive printing - the US economy is still in the toilet, with enormous debt. And it's getting closer to $20 trillion now. The whole game is a game of Russian roulette - and it's not sustainable. And it will enable Russia diversify its economy. So, don't be surprised if Putin ends up winning again. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 4:57pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
[quote author=SirShymex post=29106688][/quote]dude is talking nonsense,Russian economy is strong as ever. I don't buy western propaganda. In Europe...particularly the east,no one gives a damn about Obama and his puppets. They are trying to make us believe that Russian economy is falling,but we know better. The world is not all about the west..they are yet to realize that. Russian can always deal with many Asian countries. Russia is nuclear,economic,super,regional power. I think Putin is the chess master here,Obama is just tryna feel good...which is laughable. Action speaks louder than word,he[obama] should continue ranting with his puppets. They blame Putin for anything bad while they are not better either. Although I don't hate Obama and his cohorts but I think they are getting more stupid each day. They downed the Malaysian plane and quickly blamed Russia..why? Because they hate Russia,they always feel that Russia is a threat to them,but that's not the case..never! |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Abbey2sam(m): 5:18pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
oduastates: just when I think I know so much, then you prove me wrong......Thanks for this write up and the other ones above .... i have to look for the book "too big to fail" I've actually watched the movie....The movie was all about economy and how it's been controlled 2 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 5:18pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Nobleval: The Chinese have offered Russia a leeway to start trading in yuan, and also proposed currency swap, should Russia slip into economic collapse. But we need to be more worried about the Eurozone and deflation - it seems the collapse of the Eurozone in 2015 is inevitable, unless something is done asap. If that happens, then there should be another global economic crisis - scary. And who's going to bail Europe out this time? Ukraine is also about to default as well. 1 Like |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by oduastates: 5:35pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex:Is that a white flag of surrender i see? 6 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by oduastates: 5:37pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Abbey2sam:If you want more books on the subject or related issues , I will happily oblige you. 2 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Nobody: 5:46pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex:European leaders are just bunch of bootlickers! I've never seen such clueless lots in my life! They can't take decisions without crawling to washington. They failed to realize that Russia has many friends. How can the Eurozone that has much to loose join a faraway US to sanction Russia over something the US started? The volume of trade between the US and Russia is nil when compared to Europe's.,maybe when their economy starts sinking their Big brother[US]might pull them out. But I don't see that happening,Americans are very angry with the d:ck heads in washington for wasting tax payers money already in trivial things. When you're great you make more enemies and that's what the US has failed to realise. Many countries are eager to see the US kicked and Russia is the only country (for now) who can do that. CHINA IS KICKING THEIR BUTT ECONOMICALLY ALREADY. I pity Ukraine,they're just been used for the proxy war. 1 Like |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by Wallie(m): 6:09pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex: Putin acknowledged that Western economic sanctions over Russia's actions in Ukraine was just one factor behind Russia's economic crisis, accounting for roughly 25 to 30 percent of the ruble's troubles. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/12/18/putin-blames-sanctions-for-crisis/ President Vladimir Putin blamed "external factors" such as oil prices and sanctions for Russia's financial crisis Thursday, but admitted he should have done more to diversify the economy. http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/18/news/economy/russia-putin-economy/ 2 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by fr3do(m): 6:15pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
oduastates: Don't flatter yourself! 1 Like |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by okiezman(m): 6:20pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex: It's Usa that sets oil prices and bench mark others follow that why Russia down, take it or leave it Usa is world power before Russia now, pitin wants to get back all the former ussr countries by Usa is outclassing him on that 2 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by vedaxcool(m): 6:21pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
SirShymex: Lol! It would, but the same push Russia is applying to ukraine could also work wonders for ukraine. Putin should watch those pesky Oligarchs who would wonder sooner rather than later why they should allow one man's over compensation for his over bloated ego should send the entire nation to a tight situation hence they might be on the anti putin train. 1 Like |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by signz: 7:14pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
oduastates: Thanks 3 Likes |
Re: Obama: Vladimir Putin Is No 'chess Master' by alexis007(m): 7:59pm On Dec 22, 2014 |
Putin is to politics what messi is to football........though i do pray in my heart that he doesn't over stretch himself and his beloved country........here is a man who is more unpredictable than mother nature |
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