Henry120:


Yes you are.

And how has the Nigerian army dealt with cases of desertion?......... decisively and with impeccable discipline.

The Army is still right there in the thick of the action, they did not leave, and have never left a war in it's long military rich history.

You abandon town after town in the face of te enemy

Henry120:


Clown, you haven't proven anything. You making a series of infertile claims haven't made the SU-30 any less manoeuvrable or second fiddle to the F-15E.

Infact it is still the world's most manoeuvrable fighter and a better aircraft to the F-15E.

I never said the Strike Eagle is more maneuverable - i said its just flat out the better plane

Maneuveribility is no longer significant in moderwarfare - its not 1945 anymore, we have missiles that can make 100g turns

Henry120:


No, you guys are a bunch of cowards, not FOMAC. You have 400+ men in the CAR.

FOMAC refused support for our planned counter attack - who is the coward?

We had 200 men there we deployed an additional 800 in preperation for an intervention, but they were based in DRC and possibly Uganda

FighterPilot:



SANDF never chose to stay at home, they were ordered by the highest command to retreat. An order which they could never defy. So, what do you expect? That they should have defied the orders and only end up before the martial court like your over 20 highest ranking commanders and 60 soldiers which may eventually end in death penalty. SANDF commanders are not as fool as Col Agu of Nigerian Army. We stand our ground and fight until the enermy surrenders. In our history we never trialed any soldiers before the martial court because they were too coward to fight. That has never happened in the history of SANDF, it happened only in Nigeria. Maar mom ek sê joy gat hoot.

Your troops were ordered to stay back home because your DHQ is run by a bunch of incompetent cowards. You continue to substantiate this point, and truly, I could not agree more.

The Nigerian military instituted a military court-martial to deal with acts of cowardice, instil discipline and improve upon espirite de corps.

You do not stand your ground, the Enemy brushed you aside, you begged for help from the french, and you ran away from the Country.

You call this a proper military, you think been in the military is only about taking Hollywood style photos, pity those photos didn't scare away SELEKA.

Henry120:


Do you know what retribution is?

Cowards.

We would wast thousands of lives and billions on rands on retribution?

Hahahahahahah

This post confirms the overly emotional nature of Nigerians - willing to start wars and waste money and lives because of hurt feelings?

Are you suggesting that foreign polciy should be dictated by feelings?

What profit is in it?
What risk do they pose to our country?

Henry120:


Your troops were ordered to stay back home because your DHQ is run by a bunch of incompetent cowards. You continue to substantiate this point, and truly, I could not agree more.

The Nigerian military instituted a military court-martial to deal with acts of cowardice, instil discipline and improve upon espirite de corps.

You do not stand your ground, the Enemy brushed you aside, you begged for help from the french, and you ran away from the Country.

You call this a proper military, you think been in the military is only about taking Hollywood style photos, pity those photos didn't scare away SELEKA.

We didnt stand our ground?
What is stopping a bigger force for 13 hours?

The enemy brushed us aside?
Not after suffering upwards of 400 casualties

We never begged for help from anyone

We withdrew after FOMAC refused to give us the necissary political support for a counter attack - which we were prepared for ( do you think we sent a battalion of men, gripen and rooivalk up there for fun?)

Meanwhile your civilians no longer trust the army as they are the first to run, boko haram has captured town after town and controlls vast swaths of land, 300 of your men ran away into another country!! They drive around in captured nigerian APCs, MBTs and Shilka's and MRAPs. You now have over a million people internally displaced, you top the world terror rankings, the 300 girls remain missing!!

Every day is a battle of Bangui for the Nigerian army

Patchesagain:


FOMAC refused support for our planned counter attack - who is the coward?

We had 200 men there we deployed an additional 800 in preperation for an intervention, but they were based in DRC and possibly Uganda

FOMAC cannot refuse a planned counter attack by the SANDF. It is just an impossible lie.

There was no planned attack, your cowards at the DHQ were afraid of SELEKA and the backlash they would receive from the press for going into a mission, they shouldn't have been in, in the first place.

You had 400 men in the CAR.

Your troops in the DRC aren't an intervention force, but part of a UN sanctioned intervention in the eastern DRC.

There as such was no way, you could pull out troops from the eastern DRC and immediately deploy them to the CAR. Things don't work like that. You keep that lie to yourself.

Bangui showed the SANDF is riddled with very poor military planners, poor strategists and an endless pool of cowards.

Patchesagain:


Your entire argument relies in the statement that NK and chinese internet is so intertwined that an attack on the north would affect china

Yet you provide no proof

It was a blatant DDoS attack on NK

Its either Anonymous or the Americans

Especially since the Norks launched another cyber attack - this time against SK

Yes, because North-Korea doesn't have the infrastructure to have an independent internet, and the cover a super-power like China provides, the North-koreans depend on the chinese for their internet back-bone.

As such it is impossible to attack the Koreans without the cooperation of the chinese.

Now, it is this cooperation that the chinese would not give the Americans. It means if there was a deliberate shutdown in Korean service, the chinese would also be affected.

We're the chinese affected by the shutdown, it doesn't appear so at this point, so how did the Americans achieve this feat that lasted for only 2 hours?

Patchesagain:


Responds to accusations of trolling with more trolling

Thanks for underlining my point

Likes to accuse others of trolling, while trolling.

Patchesagain:


You abandon town after town in the face of te enemy

We don't abandon towns, we re-strategise, choke the enemy, institute a court-martial and discipline officers and men.

Patchesagain:


I never said the Strike Eagle is more maneuverable - i said its just flat out the better plane

Maneuveribility is no longer significant in moderwarfare - its not 1945 anymore, we have missiles that can make 100g turns

The SU-30 is a better plane to the F-15E.

Henry120:


Yes, because North-Korea doesn't have the infrastructure to have an independent internet, and the cover a super-power like China provides, the North-koreans depend on the chinese for their internet back-bone.

As such it is impossible to attack the Koreans without the cooperation of the chinese.

Now, it is this cooperation that the chinese would not give the Americans. It means if there was a deliberate shutdown in Korean service, the chinese would also be affected.

We're the chinese affected by the shutdown, it doesn't appear so at this point, so how did the Americans achieve this feat that lasted for only 2 hours?

lots of assertions

no citations

into the trash it goes

Patchesagain:


We would wast thousands of lives and billions on rands on retribution?

Hahahahahahah

This post confirms the overly emotional nature of Nigerians - willing to start wars and waste money and lives because of hurt feelings?

Are you suggesting that foreign polciy should be dictated by feelings?

What profit is in it?
What risk do they pose to our country?

What were 400 SANDF troops doing in the CAR in the first place?

Let me guess, you wanted to play the "Americans of Africa"....... unfortunately for you Seleka knocked your cowardly heads back to reality.

Henry120:


What were 400 SANDF troops doing in the CAR in the first place?

Let me guess, you wanted to play the "Americans of Africa"....... unfortunately for you Seleka knocked your cowardly heads back to reality.

We were on a mission to train their military

Henry120:


We don't abandon towns, we re-strategise, choke the enemy, institute a court-martial and discipline officers and men.

Oh, so when your men run for the hills in your own country its called that

When we are pushed back into our base, inflict heavy casualties, and stop the enemy advance for 13 hours over 3000km from home... we are cowards?

#EpicDoubleStandard

Henry120:


The SU-30 is a better plane to the F-15E.

[citation needed]

Henry120:


Do you know what retribution is?

Cowards.

Shut up, jou muskont. Parliament must be respected by military including the national flag. One word from the parliament the whole military must obey, jou domkop.

Henry120:


Your troops were ordered to stay back home because your DHQ is run by a bunch of incompetent cowards. You continue to substantiate this point, and truly, I could not agree more.

The Nigerian military instituted a military court-martial to deal with acts of cowardice, instil discipline and improve upon espirite de corps.

You do not stand your ground, the Enemy brushed you aside, you begged for help from the french, and you ran away from the Country.

You call this a proper military, you think been in the military is only about taking Hollywood style photos, pity those photos didn't scare away SELEKA.

Besides, we trashed Seleka and our authorities did not want to go and account for the mess before the international criminal court in Hague.

patches689:


lots of assertions

no citations

into the trash it goes

you ve to respect henry120. Why? Because he was first to raise the point that only China could ve made such a thing possible.
http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/china-says-reports-helped-hacking-attack-irresponsible-072432277--finance.html&sa=U&ei=WleZVIWSJ4flaquygsgB&ved=0CA0QqQIwAg&usg=AFQjCNH0ER8sdxglE_gpUWBbTqAA3gBVMw

When one of us claimed the north Korean systems were shutdown I was first to say it was totally not US related and I am happy to know that henry also shares the same opinion (the only sane opinion).
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0K107920141223?irpc=932

overhypedsteve:
you ve to respect henry120. Why? Because he was first to raise the point that only China could ve made such a thing possible.
http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/china-says-reports-helped-hacking-attack-irresponsible-072432277--finance.html&sa=U&ei=WleZVIWSJ4flaquygsgB&ved=0CA0QqQIwAg&usg=AFQjCNH0ER8sdxglE_gpUWBbTqAA3gBVMw

When one of us claimed the north Korean systems were shutdown I was first to say it was totally not US related and I am happy to know that henry also shares the same opinion (the only sane opinion).

so you post a link where china says it had nothing to do with NK internet being shut down

and you think it proves what?

patches689:


so you post a link where china says it had nothing to do with NK internet being shut down

and you think it proves what?

that you don't understand english. Take the article to fighterpilot and have him read it out loud and explain it to you.

overhypedsteve:
that you don't understand english. Take the article to fighterpilot and have him read it out loud and explain it to you.

why dont you explain it to me then

Patchesagain:


No

That is a telescoping snorkel attached to a stowage bin

No ammount of your protests will prove otherwise -we deal in facts here not opinion

Photos proved you wrong, snorkels are long almost 20 feet, and you admitted it.

ATGMs very short, about 5 feet, and photos proved me right.

Nigeria has it's own customized T-72 version, your problem, not mine !

FighterPilot:


You are a bloody stupiddd, you don't know the difference between snorkel and launcher.

I have posted 7 photos to show what ATGM and snorkels look like in length and size, it's your turn to show us many photos to prove your own case, show us what ATGMs look like so we can see how they are long 20 feet like a snorkel. Insults won't save your azz !
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agaugust:


Photos proved you wrong, snorkels are long almost 20 feet, and you admitted it.

ATGMs very short, about 5 feet, and photos proved me right.

Nigeria has it's own customized T-72 version, your problem, not mine !
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So you literally dont know what the word telescoping means?

lol, remeber kids, this is the guy who brags about his superior Nigerian education

patches689:


So you literally dont know what the word telescoping means?

lol, remeber kids, this is the guy who brags about his superior Nigerian education

You need to beat my 7 photos, try it and stop posting your mouth opinion, give us pictures to prove how 'short' a snorkel is and how 'long' an ATGM is.....we are waiting !
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Hey Soweto Mumus, you have been boasting that Nigeria has no T-72 tanks.....

So what is this ? Plastic toy in a supermarket ?

Who are those soldiers playing on a group of T-72 tanks, SANDF ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-FseDv_o4

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agaugust:


Photos proved you wrong, snorkels are long almost 20 feet, and you admitted it.

ATGMs very short, about 5 feet, and photos proved me right.

Nigeria has it's own customized T-72 version, your problem, not mine !





I have posted 7 photos to show what ATGM and snorkels look like in length and size, it's your turn to show us many photos to prove your own case, show us what ATGMs look like so we can see how they are long 20 feet like a snorkel. Insults won't save your azz !
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Snorkels are foldable and can retract just like an antenna.

agaugust:


Photos proved you wrong, snorkels are long almost 20 feet, and you admitted it.

ATGMs very short, about 5 feet, and photos proved me right.

Nigeria has it's own customized T-72 version, your problem, not mine !





I have posted 7 photos to show what ATGM and snorkels look like in length and size, it's your turn to show us many photos to prove your own case, show us what ATGMs look like so we can see how they are long 20 feet like a snorkel. Insults won't save your azz !
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That is clearly not a launcher. A launcher has to be attached firmly on the guide. look at yours, completely separated from a guide.

FighterPilot:


Snorkels are foldable and can retract just like an antenna.

Your opinion in your bedroom, show me photo of T-72 snorkel being folded and show me an Russian ATGM shape.

FighterPilot:


That is clearly not a launcher. A launcher has to be attached firmly on the guide. look at yours, completely separated from a guide.

Prove to me that you are a qualified military vehicles engineer, show me sources, I don't want your bedroom opinion.

I have posted 7 photos.

The MT-LB APC below is carrying a snorkel too right?
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Snorkels can clearly be folded back to a portable size.

agaugust:


Prove to me that you are a qualified military vehicles engineer, show me sources, I don't want your bedroom opinion.

I have posted 7 photos.

The problem is that you are not in the military and you will never know how does a launcher look like from far. launcher and a guide can never be separated. wherever a guide point that where a launcher shall also point.

That pic shows a launcher and guide inside the case.