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Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by F22RAPTOR(m): 11:15am On Dec 27, 2014
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by waternogeteneny: 11:16am On Dec 27, 2014
They must continue to confess their sin.


GEJ till 2019
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by koikoi2(m): 11:17am On Dec 27, 2014
Is d sultan saying dat d book shekau is using is not Quran?
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:18am On Dec 27, 2014
4djustnation:

I challenge you or your supporter who is well knowledgeable in the Quran or BH sympathiser to quote a reference, just one reference, in the Quran that justifies the BH evils



Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever
you find them, and turn them out from
where they have turned you out. And Al-
Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving
and merciful. And fight them until there is
no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping
of others along with Allah] and worship is
for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be
no transgression except against Az-
Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers,
etc.)"
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by F22RAPTOR(m): 11:19am On Dec 27, 2014
winsome5:
I so much concur with the sultan,,,,I am a Christian and I have a Muslim friend who is very friendly and kind hearted... no offence but the truth is this Muslim friend of mine is even more Christ-like that I am.

#proudlyChristain #proudlyLoveIslam
bloody liar
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by luckman20(m): 11:21am On Dec 27, 2014
gratiaeo:
“The Sultan of Sokoto, Alhaji Sa’ad Abubakar, has said that the Boko Haram sect has no doctrine that resembles that of true Muslims”.

Alhaji Sa’ad Abubakar is a liar and deceptive.

Boko-Haram are here to fulfill Allah’s commandments through the implementation of Sharia which Buhari had called for.

It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory. That means a Muslim is obliged to lie if it is for the purpose of fulfilling Allah’s commandments, such as jihad and implementation of Sharia .

No guilt or shame should be associated with this kind of lying, which has become an instinctive defensive mechanism among Muslim to protect Islam.

Vote against the implementation of Sharia.

Somebody like you can not benefit Nigerians
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by OGOg: 11:21am On Dec 27, 2014
Al-Qaeda, ISIS bokoharam and Hamas believe they are the Koran practicing Moslems entitled to paradise and virgins
My question is, who r the true Moslems?
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by 1Nairaboy(m): 11:23am On Dec 27, 2014
dreezybines:
The sultan is making islam sound to me like a confused relgion.....BH are saying their bilivs are gotn from d quran, you are saying its not.... I dont even know who to biliv..... Is it dat d quran as two types or islam can be divided into two types

I'm nt moslem but I knw Islam has two main branches: the Shia and the Sunni. This split in the religion comes
down to a political and spiritual difference of opinion about who should have succeeded Muhammad after his death in 632CE. I'm trying 2 picture if this Sultan is Shia while Buhari is Sunni and vice versa, but then going down 2 tribes in 9jaria I'm wondering whether Fulanies are Shiites while Hausas are Sunnies nd vice versa
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:23am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror
into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that
they joined companions with Allah, for
which He had sent no authority". This
speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also
includes Christians, since they believe in the
Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly
believed to be 'joining companions to
Allah').
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:24am On Dec 27, 2014
if there are not Islamic then u must be a Christian
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:26am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should
reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the
same footing (as they): But take not friends
from their ranks until they flee in the way of
Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they
turn renegades, seize them and slay them
wherever ye find them; and (in any case)
take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers
who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and
those who strive and fight in the cause of
Allah with their goods and their persons.
Allah hath granted a grade higher to those
who strive and fight with their goods and
persons than to those who sit (at home).
Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good:
But those who strive and fight Hath He
distinguished above those who sit (at
home) by a special reward,-"
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Adetula1(m): 11:27am On Dec 27, 2014
tbaba1234:


You are the liar....

“The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

You must be truthful, for truthfulness leads to righteousness and righteousness leads to Paradise. A man will keep speaking the truth and striving to speak the truth until he will be recorded with Allaah as a siddeeq (speaker of the truth). Beware of telling lies, for lying leads to immorality and immorality leads to Hellfire. A man will keep telling lies and
striving to tell lies until he is recorded with
Allaah as a liar.” (Reported by Muslim,
4721)


In Islam, taqiyya ﺗﻘﻴﺔ (alternative spellings taqiyeh, taqiya, taqiyah, tuqyah) is a form of
religious dissimulation, or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny
his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts while they are in fear,
intending to deceive the unbeliever or at risk of significant persecution.
The practice of taqiyya in “difficult circumstances” is considered legitimate by Muslims
of various sects. Sunni and Shi’a commentators alike observe that verse 16:106 refers
to the case of ‘Ammar b. Yasir, who was forced to renounce his beliefs under physical
duress and torture.
Quran 3:28 enjoins Muslims not to take the company of non-Muslims over Muslims
unless as a means of safeguarding themselves. “Let not the believers take those who
deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers – since he who does this
cuts himself off from God in everything – unless it be to protect yourself against them
in this way…” Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir, a prominent authority writes, “meaning, except
those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers.
In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers
outwardly, but never inwardly.” He quotes Muhammad’s companion, Abu Ad-Darda’,
who said “we smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them,” and
Al-Hasan who said “the Tuqyah is acceptable till the Day of Resurrection.”
____________________
Taqiyya – Islamic Dissimulation
By Kamal Ishak
TAQIYYA – “Dissimulation”.
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are islamicaly permitted, TAQIYYA
and KITMAN .
The purpose is to achieve the advance the cause Islam, by gaining the trust of non-
believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
TAQIYYA : From the root word WAQA, “to safeguard”: caution, fear, self- protection; and
hence “dissimulation” [in order to protect oneself].
KITMAN : Disguise.
Both are technical terms within the Islamic belief for dispensation from the
requirements of religion under compulsion or threat of injury, due to fear of physical or
mental damage.
(Sura III, v. 28) “Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than
believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah, except by TAQIYYA,
that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you NAFSAHU.”
This verse tells Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, unless it is to “guard
themselves” .
The Koran verse is somewhat not clear. NAFSAHU means Allah “Himself” is referring to
“the same thing”, i.e. the act of TAQIYYA?
Let’s see the provisions of the Kor’an:
(Sura II, v. 225) “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths,
but for the intention in your hearts”.
Allah gives allowance of perjury of one’s oaths.
(Sura IX, v. 3) “announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people …, that
Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the unbelievers.”
The dissolution of oaths with the non-Muslims, and freedom from liability to them is
islamicaly legal. They are evicted anyway.
(Sura LXVI, v. 2) “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), (how is) the dissolution
of your oaths.”
Allah indicated how to dissolute oaths.
(Sura XL, v. 28) “A believer… who had concealed his faith..”.
A Muslim can “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.
(Sura XVI, v. 106) “ one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters unbelief,- except
under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith – but such as open their breast to
Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah…”.
That means, a Muslim can tell lie, denying Islam. A Muslim may be “compelled” to
deceive .
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:27am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those
who wage war against Allah and His
messenger and strive to make mischief in
the land is only this, that they should be
murdered or crucified or their hands and
their feet should be cut off on opposite
sides or they should be imprisoned; this
shall be as a disgrace for them in this world,
and in the hereafter they shall have a
grievous chastisement"
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by jideolasoji(m): 11:32am On Dec 27, 2014
Most of us knows they are not muslims...

But the qustion is .. Why are all terrorist groups across the globe hide under the umbrella of islam?


Not all muslims are terrorist, but all terrorist always calm to be muslim
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by 4djustnation(m): 11:32am On Dec 27, 2014
jusRadical:




Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever
you find them, and turn them out from
where they have turned you out. And Al-
Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving
and merciful. And fight them until there is
no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping
of others along with Allah] and worship is
for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be
no transgression except against Az-
Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers,
etc.)"

I will have to show the world your high level of hypocrisy,

Did you read it from verse 190?
In case you decide to be silent about the preceding verse, I will qoute it for the people to see.
Q2v190 'And fight in the way of Allah (SWT) those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah (SWT) likes not the transgressors.
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:35am On Dec 27, 2014
They have killed mostly Muslims,including imams and emirs



They have killed sheik Jafar adam,albani.

They have bombed mosques.

Yet some idiots tell me they are fighting for Islam and Muslims....Common sense should tell you they are evil
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Speakdatruth: 11:36am On Dec 27, 2014
DDeliverer:
We know the boko-harams are christians..

We know before they kill they always shout 'in the name of the father, and of the son and of the holy spirit'.

We also know the boko-haram are trying to christianize Nigeria..

We also know that you - Sultan- art a pastor.
so funny

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Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by F22RAPTOR(m): 11:37am On Dec 27, 2014
Dapyem:
i am a muslim and i am not a terrorist
I hope you know that by your statement the true Muslims (BH, alshabab, alqaeda, and the rest) consider you a kafir (infidel).

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Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by waternogeteneny: 11:37am On Dec 27, 2014
But why do they shout Allah befor doing wat they do?
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by tbaba1234: 11:38am On Dec 27, 2014
Adetula1:
In Islam, taqiyya ﺗﻘﻴﺔ (alternative spellings taqiyeh, taqiya, taqiyah, tuqyah) is a form of
religious dissimulation, or a legal dispensation whereby a believing individual can deny
his faith or commit otherwise illegal or blasphemous acts while they are in fear,
intending to deceive the unbeliever or at risk of significant persecution.



grin grin

This is nonsense because if you know a little bit about Islam, you will know that taqiyyah as a concept is only practised by shias, which make up less than 15% of muslims.

So most muslims do not even know what you are talking about.

It is sad when people are so deceived.

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Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:38am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the
hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore
strike off their heads and strike off every
fingertip of them"
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by lohresloco: 11:42am On Dec 27, 2014
DDeliverer:
We know the boko-harams are christians..

We know before they kill they always shout 'in the name of the father, and of the son and of the holy spirit'.

We also know the boko-haram are trying to christianize Nigeria..

We also know that you - Sultan- art a pastor.
you are the funniest person around

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Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:44am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until
there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief)
and religion should be only for Allah"

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Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by chosen124: 11:44am On Dec 27, 2014
Satan of sokoto

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Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by ogazi007(m): 11:46am On Dec 27, 2014
Because arm robbers shout in the name of Jesus before robbing now mean they are true Christians?I do not understand the way some of you reason o!They are killing innocent children in mosques and churches.what kind of religion that preaches these kind of evils?Even most traditionalist's doctrines are based on justice and fairness.what is just in some mad people killing un armed civilians and wrecking havoc on people's properties and hiding under the canopy of religion to forcefully take some of our land.Its treason and that is the most reason Government need to do more to hunt and crush them to serve as deterrent to other groups that would wanna engage on activities that threatening the sovereignty of Nigeria.
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:47am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the
son of Allah; and the Christians say: The
Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the
words of their mouths; they imitate the
saying of those who disbelieved before; may
Allah destroy them; how they are turned
away!"
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Lucky77: 11:47am On Dec 27, 2014
temitemi1:
Why do they call ur allah whenever they are set to commit their stupidy acts Questio for the sultan.. GEJ till 2019!!!
Why asking the Sultan? Go ask the Bokoharam boys now!!! Talk is cheap, anybody can say anything, can call any name to do whatever he wishes.
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:48am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and
heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth
and your lives in the way of Allah! That is
best for you if ye but knew."
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:50am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the
believers their persons and their goods; for
theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise):
they fight in His cause, and slay and are
slain: a promise binding on Him in truth,
through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran:
and who is more faithful to his covenant
than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain
which ye have concluded: that is the
achievement supreme."
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:51am On Dec 27, 2014
Holly ghost fire ................Buhari
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by Nobody: 11:52am On Dec 27, 2014
Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight
those of the unbelievers who are near to
you and let them find in you hardness."
Re: Boko Haram Not Islamic Group –sultan by 4djustnation(m): 11:52am On Dec 27, 2014
jusRadical:
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the
hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore
strike off their heads and strike off every
fingertip of them"

Another hypocritical qoute!
Did you read from the beginning of the chapter to know the sequence of events?
Even in the same verse, you have intentionally left a preamble off.
What happened to '(Remember) when your Lord revealed to angels, .......
This clause show the verse you partially quoted is not a command to the Muslim but a narration of chain of events

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