NaijaPikinGidi:
South Africa and South Africans!



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http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/sa-man-at-centre-of-cia-sting-1.1799240

South African mercenaries are in high demand the world over, for their skills. Well done for waking up to this fact. We've been arguing it for months.

DieVluit:

Augugust argued today that Boko Haram has no MRAPS or such. So, tell us, are they sophisticated or not?
Actually, it is not that Boko Haram is not sophisticated, but it is that the Nigerian military is equally unsophisticated. All these things that you listed, if you aren't equal to the task, would then mean that BH is more sophisticated than your military. Your military should also be well funded or better. Your diplomacy should give you influence with your neighbours.But none of these things are possible because you are ragtag. So you give the world excuses.
It's ragtag vs ragtag at this point.
SANDF had no interest in who took over government because that was not the mission. You do know what "mission" means, don't you?

boko haram is a well armed terror group,that shouldnt be disputed.spear me petty sentiments and childish sarcasms,we all know how terribly you failed in CAR,this isnt about boko haram,its about seleka and SANDF.

EVarn:
boko haram is a well armed terror group,that shouldnt be disputed.spear me petty sentiments and childish sarcasms,we all know how terribly you failed in CAR,this isnt about boko haram,its about seleka and SANDF.

Then your military is poorly armed if you can't match them. What is BH armed with, please? What is their arsenal, pretty please? Could it be MRAPS, by any chance? Could it?

Lol, temper, temper.

You've accepted that parliament pulled the SANDF out, so I thank you for that.

DieVluit:


Assuming you are even partially right, then the decision had nothing to do with the military. It was politics. Thanks for accepting the simple fact that it was parliament. That's more than we could have asked for from you today.

politically?,was france not willing to share stolen mineral resources with you?,were you guys too scared to loot CAR dry 'cos france would have confronted you?.SANDF failed in CAR.period.

EVarn:
politically?,was france not willing to share stolen mineral resources with you?,were you guys too scared to loot CAR dry 'cos france would have confronted you?.SANDF failed in CAR.period.

Let's see:

1. You have AGREED that South African parliament pulled the SANDF out.

2. You have DEMONSTRATED that you don't know what the SANDF's mission was.

So,

If you agree the decision to pull out was made by politicians; AND

If you have no idea what the mission was,

How on earth can you be trusted to speak about failure?

How do you even begin to make sense on the point? Hmmm?

DieVluit:
Then your military is poorly armed if you can't match them. What is BH armed with, please? What is their arsenal, pretty please? Could it be MRAPS, by any chance? Could it?
Lol, temper, temper.
You've accepted that parliament pulled the SANDF out, so I thank you for that.

what is al quaeda and ISIS armed with?.gee....perhaps they must have gotten a few shiny nukes from the chinese mall downtown,why else hasnt NATO flushed them down the basin?,*gasps*,they must be more sophisticated than the US!.

EVarn:
what is al quaeda and ISIS armed with?.gee....perhaps they must have gotten a few shiny nukes from the chinese mall downtown,why else hasnt NATO flushed them down the basin?,*gasps*,they must be more sophisticated than the US!.

The question is simple, bra:

What is BH armed with? MRAPS or what?

If you don't know what BH is armed with, then you have no business saying they are "well armed".

Now, do you know or don cha?

DieVluit:


Let's see:

1. You have AGREED that South African parliament pulled the SANDF out.

2. You have DEMONSTRATED that you don't know what the SANDF's mission was.

So,

If you agree the decision to pull out was made by politicians; AND

If you have no idea what the mission was,

How on earth can you be trusted to speak about failure?

How do you even begin to make sense on the point? Hmmm?

what are you even saying,dont try to manipulate my points to suit your misguided beliefs.i understand that SANDF mission in CAR was to train government troops and protect south african interests in CAR.but,when your troop were confronted by rebels,they pulled down their pants and ran to the airport.

EVarn:
what are you even saying,dont try to manipulate my points to suit your misguided beliefs.i understand that SANDF mission in CAR was to train government troops and protect south african interests in CAR.but,when your troop were confronted by rebels,they pulled down their pants and ran to the airport.

Feel free to point out the points that have been "manipulated".

And how can a MISSION to train fail when the training was given? Hmmmm? How?

And once you're done with that, tell us how a parliamentary decision to pull out (as accepted by you) is linked to the fighters? Hmmm?

DieVluit:


The question is simple, bra:

What is BH armed with? MRAPS or what?

If you don't know what BH is armed with, then you have no business saying they are "well armed".

Now, do you know or don cha?

a terror group that uses APCs,rocket launchers,kalashnikovs and AK47,artillery,armour piecing bullets,bombs;grenades;IEDS is considered well armed in my books.

EVarn:
a terror group that uses APCs,rocket launchers,kalashnikovs and AK47,artillery,armour piecing bullets,bombs;grenades;IEDS is considered well armed in my books.

Yes, because terror groups should use sticks and knives, otherwise.

But oh, so that's ALL they have?

LOL tell me, is that ALL the Nigerian military has too, or does your military have more?

It's a simple question. Could I please have a simple answer.

DieVluit:


South Africa mercenaries are in high demand the world over, for their skills. Well done for waking up to this fact. We've been arguing it for months.

By your own admission South Africa is a breeding ground for terrorists ... call them mercenaries/criminals/gangsters ... or whatever you please! Reason why there's such a soft-spot for the BH gangsters each time they make the headlines.

:: Crime and criminality ... obviously are South African hobbies!
:: Drug peddling and drug consumption/addiction ... obviously are South African hobbies!
:: Running away from a dying South Africa ... obviously to Australia and elsewhere!
:: Terrorists and "mercenaries" ... obviously synonymous with South Africa and greed!


Just think of all the troubles in CAR, DRC, Libya, Zimbabwe, etc., and you'll find that this news report just scratches the surface of South Africa's criminal tendencies home and abroad including misplaced support for tyranny against the will of the people.

A further confirmation of South Africa's status as the continent's CRIME capital.

See full story below ... (boldened text for emphasis):

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SA man at centre of CIA sting

December 27 2014 at 10:31am
By Ivor Powell


Cape Town - An infamous South African, linked to some of the most shady scandals of this century, has emerged at the centre of a US transcontinental sting operation that netted an alleged drug cartel assassin.

Paul Calder le Roux shopped former American Special Forces-trained sniper Joseph Hunter, who was arrested in Thailand in an operation spearheaded by agents from the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).

Hunter, known as Rambo, was nabbed after he was secretly taped agreeing on behalf of a group of mercenaries to assassinate a DEA informer in return for $800 000 (R9.3 million).

News of the DEA operation only surfaced last weekend in a report by the New York Times, although Hunter was arrested and taken to the US last year.

He is facing charges in connection with running a hit squad.

Dramatic as the Hunter arrest may have been, it appears to be little more than the tip of an iceberg of spy world intrigue.

According to the New York Times and DEA sources, Hunter was sold out by his former employer, Le Roux (by this time Le Roux had dropped the middle name), as part of a top secret deal with the US authorities.

Le Roux, 42, is registered as both an Australian and South African citizen, owns property in Krugersdorp, and is a director of a South African-registered company.

He came to the attention of international intelligence agencies in 2007 when he was named in a UN Somalia and Eritrea Monitoring Group (SEMG) report as sponsoring a local breakaway militia, some 200 strong, and fitting them out with illegally sourced military materiel.

In the territory controlled by his militia, Le Roux apparently constructed hi-tech greenhouses in which he allegedly planned to grow industrial quantities of opium poppy, which would be utilised to manufacture heroin for the international market.

He discreetly disappeared on the publication of the SEMG report, coming to light again operating companies in Manila in the Philippines and allegedly involved in illegal arms and the international trade in narcotics, according to US authorities.

He may also have been connected to two hits in the Philippines about which Hunter boasted in the taped negotiations around the planned hit on the DEA agent which led to his arrest.

Le Roux was secretly taken into custody by the DEA after being arrested in Liberia in 2012 in a sting in connection with a prescription painkiller scam that he allegedly masterminded.

He was then apparently turned, and is estimated to have provided information leading to the arrests of at least 11 people.

“Le Roux is a bad guy, a very bad guy,” a DEA agent is quoted in the New York Times as saying, speaking on condition of anonymity because, he said, Le Roux’s co-operation had been a secret.

“He’s Viktor Bout (the Russian illegal arms trader dubbed the Merchant of Death and currently in prison in the US) on steroids.”

Le Roux previously made news when it became known he had transferred about $12m (R139m) into the account of Ari Ben-Manashe, a former Israeli gun-runner who was linked to Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe.

This was allegedly intended for Manashe’s company to lobby support in the US for a land reform plan that would have seen Le Roux securing 99-year leaseholds on Zimbabwean farms – to huge personal profit.

But it emerged that Manashe had testified in 2002 that Zimbabwe’s Movement for Democratic Change leader, Morgan Tsvangirai, was involved in a plot to assassinate Mugabe. This claimed assassination was later discredited.

According to intelligence reports in the possession of Independent Newspapers, Le Roux was implicated in plans hatched in 2010/11 in Zimbabwe to set up a protection unit for then-Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi – aimed at accessing billions in gold bars held in secret Libyan stashes. - Weekend Argus

DieVluit:

Feel free to point out the points that have been "manipulated".
And how can a MISSION to train fail when the training was given? Hmmmm? How?
And once you're done with that, tell us how a parliamentary decision to pull out (as accepted by you) is linked to the fighters? Hmmm?

what training was given?,how many CAR government troops were trained?.your parliament's decision to withdraw troops from CAR was advised by your military chief,following a string of violent defeats at the hands of seleka rebels.

NaijaPikinGidi:

By your own admission South Africa is a breeding ground for terrorists ... call them mercenaries/criminals/gangsters ... or whatever you please! Reason why there's such a soft-spot for the BH gangsters each time they make the headlines.
:: Crime and criminality ... obviously are South African hobbies!
:: Drug peddling and drug consumption/addiction ... obviously are South African hobbies!
:: Running away from a dying South Africa ... obviously to Australia and elsewhere!
:: Terrorists and "mercenaries" ... obviously synonymous with South Africa and greed!
Just think of all the troubles in CAR, DRC, Libya, Zimbabwe, etc., and you'll find that this news report just scratches the surface of South Africa's criminal tendencies home and abroad including misplaced support for tyranny against the will of the people.
A further confirmation of South Africa's status as the continent's CRIME capital.
See full story below ... (boldened text for emphasis):
==================
SA man at centre of CIA sting
December 27 2014 at 10:31am
By Ivor Powell
Cape Town - An infamous South African, linked to some of the most shady scandals of this century, has emerged at the centre of a US transcontinental sting operation that netted an alleged drug cartel assassin.
Paul Calder le Roux shopped former American Special Forces-trained sniper Joseph Hunter, who was arrested in Thailand in an operation spearheaded by agents from the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).
Hunter, known as Rambo, was nabbed after he was secretly taped agreeing on behalf of a group of mercenaries to assassinate a DEA informer in return for $800 000 (R9.3 million).
News of the DEA operation only surfaced last weekend in a report by the New York Times, although Hunter was arrested and taken to the US last year.
He is facing charges in connection with running a hit squad.
Dramatic as the Hunter arrest may have been, it appears to be little more than the tip of an iceberg of spy world intrigue.
According to the New York Times and DEA sources, Hunter was sold out by his former employer, Le Roux (by this time Le Roux had dropped the middle name), as part of a top secret deal with the US authorities.
Le Roux, 42, is registered as both an Australian and South African citizen, owns property in Krugersdorp, and is a director of a South African-registered company.
He came to the attention of international intelligence agencies in 2007 when he was named in a UN Somalia and Eritrea Monitoring Group (SEMG) report as sponsoring a local breakaway militia, some 200 strong, and fitting them out with illegally sourced military materiel.
In the territory controlled by his militia, Le Roux apparently constructed hi-tech greenhouses in which he allegedly planned to grow industrial quantities of opium poppy, which would be utilised to manufacture heroin for the international market.
He discreetly disappeared on the publication of the SEMG report, coming to light again operating companies in Manila in the Philippines and allegedly involved in illegal arms and the international trade in narcotics, according to US authorities.
He may also have been connected to two hits in the Philippines about which Hunter boasted in the taped negotiations around the planned hit on the DEA agent which led to his arrest.
Le Roux was secretly taken into custody by the DEA after being arrested in Liberia in 2012 in a sting in connection with a prescription painkiller scam that he allegedly masterminded.
He was then apparently turned, and is estimated to have provided information leading to the arrests of at least 11 people.
“Le Roux is a bad guy, a very bad guy,” a DEA agent is quoted in the New York Times as saying, speaking on condition of anonymity because, he said, Le Roux’s co-operation had been a secret.
“He’s Viktor Bout (the Russian illegal arms trader dubbed the Merchant of Death and currently in prison in the US) on steroids.”
Le Roux previously made news when it became known he had transferred about $12m (R139m) into the account of Ari Ben-Manashe, a former Israeli gun-runner who was linked to Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe.
This was allegedly intended for Manashe’s company to lobby support in the US for a land reform plan that would have seen Le Roux securing 99-year leaseholds on Zimbabwean farms – to huge personal profit.
But it emerged that Manashe had testified in 2002 that Zimbabwe’s Movement for Democratic Change leader, Morgan Tsvangirai, was involved in a plot to assassinate Mugabe. This claimed assassination was later discredited.
According to intelligence reports in the possession of Independent Newspapers, Le Roux was implicated in plans hatched in 2010/11 in Zimbabwe to set up a protection unit for then-Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi – aimed at accessing billions in gold bars held in secret Libyan stashes. - Weekend Argus

I repeat, South African mercenaries are in HIGH DEMAND and I stand by that.

You also stand by that, based on the article; and I say well done. For months we've been saying.

Hell, even the CIA says this guy is a badass.

EVarn:
what training was given?,how many CAR government troops were trained?.your parliament's decision to withdraw troops from CAR was advised by your military chief,following a string of violent defeats at the hands of seleka rebels.

Is that a question or are you saying zero training was given? LOL

Parliament's decision? Exactly! Do let that sink in, why don cha?

And since when is one battle "a string"?

Oh, by the way:

"In 2007 Bozizé requested assistance from South Africa for training the FACA and refurbishment of military facilities. The two nations signed a Memorandum of Understanding on 11 February 2007. In March the SANDF training and engineering personnel under the command of Col George Sibanyon.[clarification needed] By September 2009, 123 FACA members had received leadership training, including 23 who attended courses in RSA.[5]"

DieVluit:

Yes, because terror groups should use sticks and knives, otherwise.
Bu oh, so that's ALL they have?
LOL tell me, is that ALL the Nigerian military has too, or does your military have more?
It's a simple question. Could I please have a simple answer.

the NA is light~years ahead of boko haram in the area of sophistication,but you must understand that fighting religious fanatics who go as far as strapping bombs on themselves in order to kill others,is a very tasking endeavor.fighter islamic terror isnt about weapons alone.

EVarn:
the NA is light~years ahead of boko haram in the area of sophistication,but you must understand that fighting religious fanatics who go as far as strapping bombs on themselves in order to kill others,is a very tasking endeavor.fighter islamic terror isnt about weapons alone.

"Light years", you say?

THEREFORE, the whole chat about BH being "well armed" was a waste of time. The Nigerian Army would ideally and very happily annul BH's being well armed by demonstrating its being "light years" ahead.

But that hasn't happened because two ragtags are facing off.

And oh, suicide bombers don't kill soldiers. They kill civilians, so don't talk about fighting them. You don't.

DieVluit:

Is that a question or are you saying zero training was given? LOL
Parliament's decision? Exactly!
And since when is one battle "a string"?
Oh, by the way:
"In 2007 Bozizé requested assistance from South Africa for training the FACA and refurbishment of military facilities. The two nations signed a Memorandum of Understanding on 11 February 2007. In March the SANDF training and engineering personnel under the command of Col George Sibanyon.[clarification needed] By September 2009, 123 FACA members had received leadership training, including 23 who attended courses in RSA.[5]"

and what good did it do him{bozize} when seleka took over his government?.

EVarn:
and what good did it do him{bozize} when seleka took over his government?.

As confirmed by you, that had nothing to do with SANDF's mission, so who cares? SANDF was not there to stop coups.

But more interestingly, what good is NA's being 'light years ahead of BH' doing it?

I mean, your mission is to defeat BH, right? So, how's that workin out for ya?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcxaREt_z4Y

DieVluit:

"Light years", you say?
THEREFORE, the whole chat about BH being "well armed" was a waste of time. The Nigerian Army would ideally and very happily annul BH's being well armed by demonstrating its being "light years" ahead.But that hasn't happened because two ragtags are facing off.
And oh, suicide bombers don't kill soldiers. They kill civilians, so don't talk about fighting them. You don't.

the same reason why the US hasnt vanquished al quaeda and ISIS.is the US poorly armed?,is it "rag tag"?
so what you propose is that the NA should leave suicide bombers to run amok in civilian communities simply because "you{we} dont fight" them?

EVarn:
the same reason why the US hasnt vanquished al quaeda and ISIS.is the US poorly armed?,is it "rag tag"?
so what you propose is that the NA should leave suicide bombers to run amok in civilian communities simply because "you{we} dont fight" them?

It CANNOT be the same reason if the US is fighting in other people's countries.

You argued that Nigeria is light years ahead of BH, so their being "well armed" is not an excuse.

Could it be that you are cowards and ragtag too LOL?

NA has not faced up to suicide bombers, some of whom are young girls and not fighters - so, miss us with that, fam. It's a very simple message. Don't pretend to be confused by it. No need to mic check. It's clear.

DieVluit:


LOL "A mere speedboat that even civilians have". But the Toyota Hiluxes that are the mainstay of your boys are also something that even civilians have.

It's not about the value or scarcity of the equipment, it's about the act of your boys being stripped of their equipment on the regular.

Regular ? No, that was first time in history of Nigeria that soldiers were murdered on river patrol and their boat stolen.

As for Boko Haram, war is war, you lose men and equipment, you go back to find the equipment and destroy it then k.ill all those enemy fighters who stole it, that is a good army, that is Nigerian army, your South African army is NOT able to do that !

My posting of several SANDF Gecko vehicles on internet being controlled by Seleka that snatched them from you, should be enough for your Hollywood photomania army to go back to Bangui and destroy those vehicles, but 50 million South Africans CANNOT muster enough courage to do it o !

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agaugust:

Regular ? No, that was first time in history of Nigeria that soldiers were murdered on river patrol and their boat stolen.
As for Boko Haram, war is war, you lose men and equipment, you go back to find the equipment and destroy it then k.ill all those enemy fighters who stole it, that is a good army, that is Nigerian army, your South African army is NOT able to do that !
My posting of several SANDF Gecko vehicles on internet being controlled by Seleka that snatched them from you, should be enough for your Hollywood photomania army to go back to Bangui and destroy those vehicles, but 50 million South Africans CANNOT muster enough courage to do it o !
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Who said it wasn't the first time?

No one did, Mr Strawman

The regular occurrence is the loss of your equipment to BH.

LOL you posted SEVERAL geckos? Really? How many? One? Two? Three?

Hm, against how many incidents of equipment seizure by BH? Or better yet, territory seizure? No, no, the seizure of girls and lately, villagers?

Hmmm?

By the by, Seleka men mustered the courage to come to Pretoria to grovel.

DieVluit:


It CANNOT be the same reason if the US is fighting in other people's countries.

You argued that Nigeria is light years ahead of BH, so their being "well armed" is not an excuse.

Could it be that you are cowards and ragtag too LOL?

NA has not faced up to suicide bombers, some of whom are young girls and not fighters - so, miss us with that, fam. It's a very simple message. Don't pretend to be confused by it. No need to mic check. It's clear.

Nigerian army has been attacked by so many suicide bombers that we cannot count.

Rather it is SANDF that has NEVER tasted real COIN war of suicide bombing done on your own homeland by your own innocent looking girls that can never be detected until they strike.

SANDF will be in Nigeria for COIN training soon, we are masters of South Africa anytime !

See Nigerian army in action against suicide bombers just few days ago....

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/news-headlines/item/25139-failed-suicide-bombing-at-bajoga-military-checkpoint

Now show us war SANDF is fighting, your army is NOT even qualified to talk when Nigerian army talks, you fight no war !

NA and SANDF are not in the same category, you have ZERO war experience !

You just make photos for demo and acting
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agaugust:


Nigerian army has been attacked by so many suicide bombers that we cannot count.

Rather it is SANDF that has NEVER tasted real COIN war of suicide bombing done on your own homeland by your own innocent looking girls that can never be detected until they strike.

SANDF will be in Nigeria for COIN training soon, we are masters of South Africa anytime !

See Nigerian army in action against suicide bombers just few days ago....

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/news-headlines/item/25139-failed-suicide-bombing-at-bajoga-military-checkpoint

Now show us the war SANDF is fighting, your army is NOT even qualified to talk when Nigerian army is talking, you fight no war !
You just make photos for demo and acting
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And you prove the "many fights against suicide bombers" by posting a story of a failed bombing at a checkpoint?

LOL, well picked, man. Proves my point nicely.

SANDF fighting? You mean like DRC? First mission of its kind in history? Now, why would I wanna do that to you? I mean, your military only has one job. One job IN NIGERIA....and yet...it fumbles.

DieVluit:


And you prove the "many fights against suicide bombers" by posting a story of a failed bombing at a checkpoint?

LOL, well picked, man. Proves my point nicely.

SANDF fighting? You mean like DRC? First mission of its kind in history? Now, why would I wanna do that to you? I mean, your military only has one job. One job IN NIGERIA....and yet...it fumbles.

UN mission is a global military force of over 12 countries including Europeans, it is NOT a South African only force, your last SANDF battle fighting alone was against your life masters Seleka and you ran away

Nigerian war time-line is constant wars for the past 20 years.

1990s Liberia/Sierra Leione
2000s Dafur Sudan, Niger Delta, Boko Haram.

We have never had a rest from war, home or abroad.

Your pea sized head cannot do simple google search and find many suicide attacks on Nigerian army, I posted one, here is another for your COWARDLY nation of South Africa to learn from....nation of genetic cowards

http://www.voanews.com/content/explosion-kills-at-least-three-outside-nigerian-barracks/1932251.html
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DieVluit:


Who said it wasn't the first time?

No one did, Mr Strawman

The regular occurrence is the loss of your equipment to BH.

LOL you posted SEVERAL geckos? Really? How many? One? Two? Three?

Hm, against how many incidents of equipment seizure by BH? Or better yet, territory seizure? No, no, the seizure of girls and lately, villagers?

Hmmm?

By the by, Seleka men mustered the courage to come to Pretoria to grovel.

Rhino poachers have the courage and they invade Kruger park, defeat SANDF, SAAF, SA Special Forces, Rangers etc.

They kill your Rhinos and sell their horns, yet your 50 million fools called saffers cannot stop them, you hardly ever even catch them, hardly ever except a few.

50 million Southies on your knees begging Botswana to save you....500 Southie Rhinos removed to safe haven in Botswana
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agaugust:

UN mission is a global military force of over 12 countries including Europeans, it is NOT a South African only force, your last SANDF battle fighting alone was against your life masters Seleka and you ran away
Nigerian war time-line is constant wars for the past 20 years.
1990s Liberia/Sierra Leione
2000s Dafur Sudan, Niger Delta, Boko Haram.
We have never had a rest from war, home or abroad.
Your pea sized head cannot do simple google search and find many suicide attacks on Nigerian army, I posted one, here is another for your COWARDLY nation of South Africa to learn from....nation of genetic cowards
http://www.voanews.com/content/explosion-kills-at-least-three-outside-nigerian-barracks/1932251.html
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The force in the frontlines was very happily NOT comprised of 12 countries and yes, South Africa's footprint was quite telling in the battles. The record in the picture didn't 'just happen'. And this is one of the longest running peace-keeping missions in history, with SA having been there from the start.

Please, onto your list of battles, add the following:

"2012 - present. Nigeria against BH in Nigeria. NA frequently runs from enemy, has lost territory, loses equipment and has failed to bring back the girls."

The bolded is not your history, but your present. Who you are today. What you are. Or should I say, what you are not.

And no, you have not faced up to suicide bombers. You can't prove it cause it hasn't happened and it can never happen.

agaugust:


Rhino poachers have the courage and they invade Kruger park, defeat SANDF, SAAF, SA Special Forces, Rangers etc.

They kill your Rhinos and sell their horns, yet your 50 million fools called saffers cannot stop them, you hardly ever even catch them, hardly ever except a few.

50 million Southies on your knees begging Botswana to save you....500 Southie Rhinos removed to safe haven in Botswana
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Rhino poaching has nothing to do with the military other than as directed. It is under environmental affairs.

But BH is squarely in your military's area responsibility. They are failing even with a state of emergency acting as a tailwind.

DieVluit:


The force in the frontlines was very happily NOT comprised of 12 countries and yes, South Africa's footprint was quite telling in the battles. The record in the picture didn't 'just happen'. And this is one of the longest running peace-keeping missions in history, with SA having been there from the start.

Please, onto your list of battles, add the following:

"2012 - present, Nigeria against BH. NA frequently runs from enemy, has lost territory, loses equipment and has failed to bring back the girls."

The bolded is not your history, but your present. Who you are today. What you are. Or should I say, what you are not.

On going war, and we have k.illed thousands of Bokos and flushed them out of many cities they infiltrated, today we ruin all their armoured vehicles with impunity, the 200 girls are civilian hostages, no army in the world can rescue them without the girls getting killed, so we will smartly wait and decide.

Few weeks ago the great American special forces in Iraq tried to rescue a South African hostage, just 2 hostages and the hostages got killed.

SANDF has no experience so you would have rushed in to rescue 200 girls and they all get killed, right? Makes you a confirmed fool

Sniper record kill was only reported by South Africans , one propagande source, and one wikipedia entry made by same South Africans, show us proof from UN that commanded the operations. Ya got a fake sniper record kill
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DieVluit:


Rhino poaching has nothing to do with the military other than as directed. It is under environmental affairs.

But BH is squarely in your military's area responsibility. They are failing even with a state of emergency acting as a tailwind.

21 Battalion SANDF, SA special forces and SAAF were all deployed in Rhino war and failed, if they had succeeded, you won't say it's not a military affair, will you? Mere local Rhino hunters dribbled SANDF and SAAF around in your own homeland, I wonder what will happen if 20,000 terrorists operate and live inside South Africa like we have in Nigeria, Jacob Zuma would have been taken hostage for ransome

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"Rhino has cost South Africa a financial loss of about R228 million with the 333 rhinos poached last year alone. These are the statistics according to the Wildlife and Environment Society of South Africa (WESSA); it is for this reason and the need to protect rhinos that the country is going all out to counter poachers.

The deployment of South African National Defence Force (SANDF) members at the Kruger National Park has brought confidence that rhino poaching can be extinguished. The SANDF deployed 265 soldiers at Kruger National Park and the borders around the park in March this year, following a plea for help by the South African National Parks (SanParks).

In an interview with Defence magazine, Colonel Nceba Bobelo, Officer Commanding for Joint Operations Tactical Headquaters in Mpumalanga, said “Operation Corona” was making a huge difference in the fight against poachers. The Army brought in its expertise to beef up a team of Park Rangers, which was overwhelmed by the by increasing killing of rhinos for their horns.

"We've got one Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers. "The helicopters contribute a lot in terms of identifying areas where poachers are operating," he adds. Colone! Says that it became increasingly important to rope in the army when syndicates began using helicopters, night vision equipment and high-powered rifles in their expedition. The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS), says Colonel Bobelo."

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agaugust:

On going war, and we have k.illed thousands of Bokos and flushed them out of many cities they infiltrated, today we ruin all their armoured vehicles with impunity, the 200 girls are civilian hostages, no army in the world can rescue them without the girls getting killed, so we will smartly wait and decide.
Few weeks ago the great American special forces in Iraq tried to rescue a South African hostage, just 2 hostages and the hostages got killed.
SANDF has no experience so you would have rushed in to rescue 200 girls and they all get killed, right? Makes you a confirmed fool
Sniper record kill was only reported by South Africans , one propagande source, and one wikipedia entry made by same South Africans, show us proof from UN that commanded the operations. Ya got a fake sniper record kill
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And the "thousands of Bokos" have also flushed you out of terrotory. 'Ongoing' as you say, because you can't end it. You are not capable of ending it. You do not have what it takes.

SANDF however has the experience that has made it into record books.

Nigeria's "experience" has not prevented its being freed of equipment, of territory, of "the girls".

You cannot compare a mission of a handful of special forces in a foreign land to that of an entire military fighting at home. Or should I say pretending to be fighting at home.