And the "thousands of Bokos" have also flushed you out of terrotory. 'Ongoing' as you say, because you can't end it. You are not capable of ending it. You do not have what it takes.
SANDF's however has the experience that has made records.
Nigeria's "experience" has not prevented its being freed of equipment, of territory, of "the girls".
You cannot compare a mission of a handful of special forces in a foreign land to that of an entire military fighting at home. Or should I say pretending to be fighting at home.
80,000 SANDF failed to beat local Rhino poachers inside South African homeland
Islamic terrorism, USA/NATO could not defeat them after 11 years war in Afghanistan .
21 Battalion SANDF, SA special forces and SAAF were all deployed in Rhino war and failed, if they had succeeded, you won't say it's not a military affair, will you? Mere local Rhino hunters dribbled SANDF and SAAF around in your own homeland, I wonder what will happen if 20,000 terrorists operate and live inside South Africa like we have in Nigeria, Jacob Zuma would have been taken hostage for ransome
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Rhino has cost South Africa a financial loss of about R228 million with the 333 rhinos poached last year alone. These are the statistics according to the Wildlife and Environment Society of South Africa (WESSA); it is for this reason and the need to protect rhinos that the country is going all out to counter poachers.
The deployment of South African National Defence Force (SANDF) members at the Kruger National Park has brought confidence that rhino poaching can be extinguished. The SANDF deployed 265 soldiers at Kruger National Park and the borders around the park in March this year, following a plea for help by the South African National Parks (SanParks).
In an interview with Defence magazine, Colonel Nceba Bobelo, Officer Commanding for Joint Operations Tactical Headquaters in Mpumalanga, said “Operation Corona” was making a huge difference in the fight against poachers. The Army brought in its expertise to beef up a team of Park Rangers, which was overwhelmed by the by increasing killing of rhinos for their horns.
"We've got one Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers. "The helicopters contribute a lot in terms of identifying areas where poachers are operating," he adds. Colone! Says that it became increasingly important to rope in the army when syndicates began using helicopters, night vision equipment and high-powered rifles in their expedition. The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS), which has role players that include the South African Police Service (SAPS) and SANParks, assisted by the intelligence arms of both the SANDF and the Police. The team also includes the National Prosecuting Authority and magistrates. “We established the joint command centre where we could all meet and share information for planning purposes. The magistrates attend our meetings so that they can understand the important role they need to play in giving rhino poaching cases speedy attention” says Colonel Bobelo.
The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS), which has role players that include the South African Police Service (SAPS) and SANParks, assisted by the intelligence arms of both the SANDF and the Police. The team also includes the National Prosecuting Authority and magistrates. “We established the joint command centre where we could all meet and share information for planning purposes. The magistrates attend our meetings so that they can understand the important role they need to play in giving rhino poaching cases speedy attention” says Colonel Bobelo.
From your own source. Therefore, fact remains, the environmental affairs is responsible and the SANDF comes in as directed. But your military is solely responsible for BH. And the failure against BH is that of your military and your military alone.
80,000 SANDF failed to beat local Rhino poachers inside South African homeland
Islamic terrorism, USA/NATO could not defeat them after 11 years war in Afghanistan .
Nowhere can you prove the 80 000 number and you cannot prove that the SA military has tactical control. But no proof is needed to know that Nigeria's entire military is deployed at home and notwithstanding budgetary and legislative support, it cannot stop BH. The US is not waging a war like Nigeria is inside the US. There are zero parallels.
In fact we shouldn't even be talking about the seizure of equipment, we should be talking about the seizure of people and land right under the noses of your soldiers. It doesn't get more pathetic than that, my friend.
The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS), which has role players that include the South African Police Service (SAPS) and SANParks, assisted by the intelligence arms of both the SANDF and the Police. The team also includes the National Prosecuting Authority and magistrates. “We established the joint command centre where we could all meet and share information for planning purposes. The magistrates attend our meetings so that they can understand the important role they need to play in giving rhino poaching cases speedy attention” says Colonel Bobelo.
From your own source. Therefore, fact remains, the environmental affairs is responsible and the SANDF comes in as directed. But your military is solely responsible for BH. And the failure against BH is that of your military and your military alone.
Nope Boko war is fought by Nigerian police, SSS and military too, so what's your foolish point ?
Nowhere can you prove the 80 000 number and you cannot prove that the SA military has tactical control. But no proof is needed to know that Nigeria's entire military is deployed at home and notwithstanding budgetary and legislative support, it cannot stop BH. The US is not waging a war like Nigeria is inside the US. There are zero parallels.
In fact we shouldn't even be talking about the seizure of equipment, we should be talking about the seizure of people and land right under the noses of your soldiers. It doesn't get more pathetic than that, my friend.
SANDF has 80,000 men at arms on home-soil, they are useless and failures in their battle against Rhino hunters where you deployed them.
America and NATO super powers could not stop Islamic terrorists in 11 years of war in Afghanistan, Boko Haram is Islamic
SANDF has 80,000 men at arms on home-soil, they are useless and failures in their battle against Rhino hunters where you deployed them.
America and NATO super powers could not stop Islamic terrorists in 11 years of war in Afghanistan, Boko Haram is Islamic .
But the 80 000 men at harms have no business with poaching. The few men that do go in as directed have no freedom. they are only part of a joint command centre that ultimately reports to a ministry outside of the military.
The ENTIRE Nigerian army is responsible for BH and is THE COMMAND CENTRE. But there might as well be no army in Nigeria.
One simple directive TO YOUR MILITARY: "defeat BH". Your military has tactical control and freedom.
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"Rhino has cost South Africa a financial loss of about R228 million with the 333 rhinos poached last year alone. These are the statistics according to the Wildlife and Environment Society of South Africa (WESSA); it is for this reason and the need to protect rhinos that the country is going all out to counter poachers. The deployment of South African National Defence Force (SANDF) members at the Kruger National Park has brought confidence that rhino poaching can be extinguished. The SANDF deployed 265 soldiers at Kruger National Park and the borders around the park in March this year, following a plea for help by the South African National Parks (SanParks).
In an interview with Defence magazine, Colonel Nceba Bobelo, Officer Commanding for Joint Operations Tactical Headquaters in Mpumalanga, said “Operation Corona” was making a huge difference in the fight against poachers. The Army brought in its expertise to beef up a team of Park Rangers, which was overwhelmed by the by increasing killing of rhinos for their horns. "We've got one Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers. "The helicopters contribute a lot in terms of identifying areas where poachers are operating," he adds. Colone! Says that it became increasingly important to rope in the army when syndicates began using helicopters, night vision equipment and high-powered rifles in their expedition. The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS), says Colonel Bobelo."
"Rhino has cost South Africa a financial loss of about R228 million with the 333 rhinos poached last year alone. These are the statistics according to the Wildlife and Environment Society of South Africa (WESSA); it is for this reason and the need to protect rhinos that the country is going all out to counter poachers. The deployment of South African National Defence Force (SANDF) members at the Kruger National Park has brought confidence that rhino poaching can be extinguished. The SANDF deployed 265 soldiers at Kruger National Park and the borders around the park in March this year, following a plea for help by the South African National Parks (SanParks).
In an interview with Defence magazine, Colonel Nceba Bobelo, Officer Commanding for Joint Operations Tactical Headquaters in Mpumalanga, said “Operation Corona” was making a huge difference in the fight against poachers. The Army brought in its expertise to beef up a team of Park Rangers, which was overwhelmed by the by increasing killing of rhinos for their horns. "We've got one Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers. "The helicopters contribute a lot in terms of identifying areas where poachers are operating," he adds. Colone! Says that it became increasingly important to rope in the army when syndicates began using helicopters, night vision equipment and high-powered rifles in their expedition. The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS), says Colonel Bobelo."
EVarn: in order to spear you more humiliating defeats
Nope, the president opted to send more reinforcements, equipments via uganda, Rooivalks and gripens. So, in order to stop us from being called before the international criminal court and be labelled as oppressors and colonists, the parliament ordered our immediate withdrawal.
"Rhino has cost South Africa a financial loss of about R228 million with the 333 rhinos poached last year alone. These are the statistics according to the Wildlife and Environment Society of South Africa (WESSA); it is for this reason and the need to protect rhinos that the country is going all out to counter poachers. The deployment of South African National Defence Force (SANDF) members at the Kruger National Park has brought confidence that rhino poaching can be extinguished. The SANDF deployed 265 soldiers at Kruger National Park and the borders around the park in March this year, following a plea for help by the South African National Parks (SanParks).
In an interview with Defence magazine, Colonel Nceba Bobelo, Officer Commanding for Joint Operations Tactical Headquaters in Mpumalanga, said “Operation Corona” was making a huge difference in the fight against poachers. The Army brought in its expertise to beef up a team of Park Rangers, which was overwhelmed by the by increasing killing of rhinos for their horns. "We've got one Intelligence Tactical Regiment from Potchefstroom, which specialises in intelligence gathering. Special Forces and 21 Batallion, both in the park and on the borders," says Colonel Bobelo. The ground troops are supported by helicopters for a speedy chase of poachers. "The helicopters contribute a lot in terms of identifying areas where poachers are operating," he adds. Colone! Says that it became increasingly important to rope in the army when syndicates began using helicopters, night vision equipment and high-powered rifles in their expedition. The army is part of the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS), says Colonel Bobelo."
I wonder how much did Boko haram cost Nigerian government per every life lost? BH has killed many people in Nigeria just in one year than all the number of rhinos killed in SA combined together.
Regular ? No, that was first time in history of Nigeria that soldiers were murdered on river patrol and their boat stolen.
As for Boko Haram, war is war, you lose men and equipment, you go back to find the equipment and destroy it then k.ill all those enemy fighters who stole it, that is a good army, that is Nigerian army, your South African army is NOT able to do that !
My posting of several SANDF Gecko vehicles on internet being controlled by Seleka that snatched them from you, should be enough for your Hollywood photomania army to go back to Bangui and destroy those vehicles, but 50 million South Africans CANNOT muster enough courage to do it o !
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firstly, gecko is a logistic vehicle and not a combat vehicle. It is very cheap and I can even buy it out of my monthly salary. I will not even need to budget for it. Just show me the special force vehicles that were captured by Seleka and then you will convince the users about your claim. Those geckos would have anyway to be left behind even when the mission was accomplished. We had some which were utilised by the CAR government troops to transfer equipment and food stuffs.
By your own admission South Africa is a breeding ground for terrorists ... call them mercenaries/criminals/gangsters ... or whatever you please! Reason why there's such a soft-spot for the BH gangsters each time they make the headlines.
:: Crime and criminality ... obviously are South African hobbies! :: Drug peddling and drug consumption/addiction ... obviously are South African hobbies! :: Running away from a dying South Africa ... obviously to Australia and elsewhere! :: Terrorists and "mercenaries" ... obviously synonymous with South Africa and greed!
Just think of all the troubles in CAR, DRC, Libya, Zimbabwe, etc., and you'll find that this news report just scratches the surface of South Africa's criminal tendencies home and abroad including misplaced support for tyranny against the will of the people.
A further confirmation of South Africa's status as the continent's CRIME capital.
See full story below ... (boldened text for emphasis):
================== SA man at centre of CIA sting
December 27 2014 at 10:31am By Ivor Powell
Cape Town - An infamous South African, linked to some of the most shady scandals of this century, has emerged at the centre of a US transcontinental sting operation that netted an alleged drug cartel assassin.
Paul Calder le Roux shopped former American Special Forces-trained sniper Joseph Hunter, who was arrested in Thailand in an operation spearheaded by agents from the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).
Hunter, known as Rambo, was nabbed after he was secretly taped agreeing on behalf of a group of mercenaries to assassinate a DEA informer in return for $800 000 (R9.3 million).
News of the DEA operation only surfaced last weekend in a report by the New York Times, although Hunter was arrested and taken to the US last year.
He is facing charges in connection with running a hit squad.
Dramatic as the Hunter arrest may have been, it appears to be little more than the tip of an iceberg of spy world intrigue.
According to the New York Times and DEA sources, Hunter was sold out by his former employer, Le Roux (by this time Le Roux had dropped the middle name), as part of a top secret deal with the US authorities.
Le Roux, 42, is registered as both an Australian and South African citizen, owns property in Krugersdorp, and is a director of a South African-registered company.
He came to the attention of international intelligence agencies in 2007 when he was named in a UN Somalia and Eritrea Monitoring Group (SEMG) report as sponsoring a local breakaway militia, some 200 strong, and fitting them out with illegally sourced military materiel.
In the territory controlled by his militia, Le Roux apparently constructed hi-tech greenhouses in which he allegedly planned to grow industrial quantities of opium poppy, which would be utilised to manufacture heroin for the international market.
He discreetly disappeared on the publication of the SEMG report, coming to light again operating companies in Manila in the Philippines and allegedly involved in illegal arms and the international trade in narcotics, according to US authorities.
He may also have been connected to two hits in the Philippines about which Hunter boasted in the taped negotiations around the planned hit on the DEA agent which led to his arrest.
Le Roux was secretly taken into custody by the DEA after being arrested in Liberia in 2012 in a sting in connection with a prescription painkiller scam that he allegedly masterminded.
He was then apparently turned, and is estimated to have provided information leading to the arrests of at least 11 people.
“Le Roux is a bad guy, a very bad guy,” a DEA agent is quoted in the New York Times as saying, speaking on condition of anonymity because, he said, Le Roux’s co-operation had been a secret.
“He’s Viktor Bout (the Russian illegal arms trader dubbed the Merchant of Death and currently in prison in the US) on steroids.”
Le Roux previously made news when it became known he had transferred about $12m (R139m) into the account of Ari Ben-Manashe, a former Israeli gun-runner who was linked to Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe.
This was allegedly intended for Manashe’s company to lobby support in the US for a land reform plan that would have seen Le Roux securing 99-year leaseholds on Zimbabwean farms – to huge personal profit.
But it emerged that Manashe had testified in 2002 that Zimbabwe’s Movement for Democratic Change leader, Morgan Tsvangirai, was involved in a plot to assassinate Mugabe. This claimed assassination was later discredited.
According to intelligence reports in the possession of Independent Newspapers, Le Roux was implicated in plans hatched in 2010/11 in Zimbabwe to set up a protection unit for then-Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi – aimed at accessing billions in gold bars held in secret Libyan stashes. - Weekend Argus
You missed the point, Nigerians are international drug paddlers. A well known fact all over the world.
DieVluit: It CANNOT be the same reason if the US is fighting in other people's countries.You argued that Nigeria is light years ahead of BH,so their being "well armed" is not an excuse.Could it be that you are cowards and ragtag too LOL? NA has not faced up to suicide bombers,some of whom are young girls and not fighters-so,miss us with that,fam.It's a very simple message.Don't pretend to be confused by it.No need to mic check.It's clear.
the NA isnt ragtag.do you think fighting terrorists is a simple matter of driving into their stronghold and demanding that they surrender "by the order of the federal republic..." or face certain death?.i know the manipulation game that you are playing,do not think me ignorant of your dubious tactics. i clearly remember our troops apprehendind countless suicide bombers and stopping many bomb detonations,isnt that fighting against suicide bombing?,how else do you want them to fight?,even satellites cant detect suicide bombers!
Nope, the president opted to send more reinforcements, equipments via uganda, Rooivalks and gripens. So, in order to stop us from being called before the international criminal court and be labelled as oppressors and colonists, the parliament ordered our immediate withdrawal.
the parliament ordered your immediate withdrawal on the advise of your military chief,following your defeat at the vicious hands of rebels.SA sent in C-130 aircrafts to pick you up from under "french protection" where you were cowering like frightened cockroaches.
EVarn: the NA isnt ragtag.do you think fighting terrorists is a simple matter of driving into their stronghold and demanding that they surrender "by the order of the federal republic..." or face certain death?.i know the manipulation game that you are playing,do not think me ignorant of your dubious tactics. i clearly remember our troops apprehendind countless suicide bombers and stopping many bomb detonations,isnt that fighting against suicide bombing?,how else do you want them to fight?,even satellites cant detect suicide bombers!
LOL, then let's say they are cowards and unskilled then, seeing as they can't defeat a ragtag BH that they run away from on the daily?
How many suicide bombers faced up to the soldiers and traded bullets with them? Zero.
Don't cry "manipulation". Argue your way through.
Is the Nigerian army ragtag, cowards or hapless? I mean they are "light years" ahead of BH according to you and yet they can't stop them at home. You listed the following for BH: APCs,rocket launchers,kalashnikovs and AK47,artillery,armour piecing bullets,bombs;grenades;IEDS
Any military that's "light years ahead" of that and fighting at home should not have a problem stopping such a terror group, especially if such military is apparently NOT "rag tag", unless of course such military are cowards, ineffective and unskilled.
EVarn: the parliament ordered your immediate withdrawal on the advise of your military chief,following your defeat at the vicious hands of rebels.SA sent in C-130 aircrafts to pick you up from under "french protection" where you were cowering like frightened cockroaches.
The parliament does not consult any military chiefs to make political decisions affecting military. The SANDF never lost the battle, they merely defended themselves from the bandits who wanted to consume them with the hell fire and only for the enemy to suffer heavy casualties. The military chiefs wanted us to finish them off but they soon raised the white flag after realising that our reinforcements were on their way. They feared the gripens and rooivalks. However, the parliament stopped everything before we ever started with our offensive to crash the bandits until there was no single one left.
And South-Africans are filthy dirty HIV carriers, a well known fact all over the world.
Nigerians are worst than SA with AIDS, no successful ARVS government supported programme, no mother to child HIV prevention support and post exposure prevention using prophylaxis. On paper they are listed as the second most affected but in reality they take number one sport since three babies out of four births in Nigeria are born HIV positive. A nation of world leading HIV positive infants. SA as in current has HIV-free new born babies.
Nigerians are worst than SA with AIDS, no ARVS and prevention. On paper they are listed as the second most affected but in reality they take number one sport since three babies out of four births in Nigeria are born HIV positive. A nation of world leading HIV positive infants. SA as in current has HIV-free new born babies.
Nigerians are worst than SA with AIDS, no successful ARVS government supported programme, no mother to child HIV prevention support and post exposure prevention using prophylaxis. On paper they are listed as the second most affected but in reality they take number one sport since three babies out of four births in Nigeria are born HIV positive. A nation of world leading HIV positive infants. SA as in current has HIV-free new born babies.
What is worse is for every 5 south-africans, 1 of you is a dirty HIV carrier.
In fact, AIDS related illnesses kill more Nigerians than anyone else in the entire planet earth.
That's true, their government has no financial muscle to fight the scourge of HIV/AIDS. All of their ARV drugs are imported and currently SA issued licenses for tenders to pharmaceutical companies to manufacture ARVs locally. We have post exposure prophylaxis treatment funded by the government which prevents HIV to mutate in the body. We are currently piloting a free national health insurance which will help the HIV infected individuals to a greater extent. In SA, HIV is no longer a death sentence like in Nigeria where they are dying like flies from HIV.
No wonder thousands of HIV positive Nigerians relocate to SA for a better treatment.
That's true, their government has no financial muscle to fight the scourge of HIV/AIDS. All of their ARV drugs are imported and currently SA issued licenses for tenders to pharmaceutical companies to manufacture ARVs locally. We have post exposure prophylaxis treatment funded by the government which prevents HIV to mutate in the body. We are currently piloting a free national health insurance which will help the HIV infected individuals to a greater extent. In SA, HIV is no longer a death sentence like in Nigeria where they are dying like flies from HIV.
They say they have less HIV/AIDS sufferers, but they have more deaths.
It's this ignorant attitude that they have towards AIDS, coupled with their lack of financial muscle and political will.
That's simple conclusion to make. They fail to do a routine HIV testing that's why the world health organisation can only records their few stats.
Thousands of HIV positive Nigerians relocate to SA for a better treatment.
Your country is a HIV ridden sh1thole, your president thinks taking a bath after having un-protected Sex with a HIV infected individual removes the risk of having HIV.
Ignorance at the very top, and this is the exact reason why you have the highest number of infected individuals in the world.
If your president can be that stup1d, what's to say for the rest of you rap1sts
Your country is a HIV ridden sh1thole, your president thinks taking a bath after having un-protected Sex with a HIV infected individual removes the risk of having HIV.
Ignorance at the very top, and this is the exact reason why you have the highest number of infected individuals in the world.
If your president can be that stup1d, what's to say for the rest of you rap1sts
Almost over half and quota of your population do not know their HIV status and that's why the international heath organisation are estimating your stats to be as high as that of SA combined. Your babies are born positive and what does that tell you? Your country lives in a bitter denialism of AIDS.
Nigeria leads the world with HIV positive infants.
Your country is a HIV ridden sh1thole, your president thinks taking a bath after having un-protected Sex with a HIV infected individual removes the risk of having HIV.
Ignorance at the very top, and this is the exact reason why you have the highest number of infected individuals in the world.
If your president can be that stup1d, what's to say for the rest of you rap1sts
And yet, the AIDS bodies are piling up in lagos.
You can't be more AIDS ridden than the country that has more deaths from AIDS.
A country that leads mother-to-child transmission rates and has more AIDS babies.
