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Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 7:57am On Dec 27, 2014 |
Allah's Apostle said, ''He who eats seven Ajwa dates every morning WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY POISON OR MAGIC on the day he eats them'' (Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 7, Book 65, No. 356). Why did Muhammad and his men still die of poison? |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by cahrym(m): 8:01am On Dec 27, 2014 |
You don dey madt abi? Do your research wella. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by holatin(m): 8:06am On Dec 27, 2014 |
can someone change what has been predestined by God. Even with a lot of security, God can take d life of a president in many ways. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by madridguy(m): 8:06am On Dec 27, 2014 |
Someone need to visit Psychiatric hospital before his condition get out of hands. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 8:06am On Dec 27, 2014 |
cahrym: Is this the answer to the question? Tell me the answer if you know it. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Truth24(m): 8:08am On Dec 27, 2014 |
Islam Terror |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 8:11am On Dec 27, 2014 |
holatin: Was that statement by Muhammad not inspired by allah himself? Has any muslim taken seven Ajwa and survived eating poison? |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 8:13am On Dec 27, 2014 |
madridguy: You have no point. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 8:32am On Dec 27, 2014 |
If Muhammad's faith failed him, why would anybody be or remain a muslim? |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by balash(m): 8:53am On Dec 27, 2014 |
All this half baked researcher just love trouble everyday of your life between muslim and christian beliefs, Are u never tired of revealling your hatred for muslim and the Prophet(pbuh) If I start research for you in the bible which contradict a lot about Jesus and Christians u will run but no I won't because we muslim belief so much about Jesus been the prophet of Allah and we respect his beliefs and teachings which some of your christians fore fathers have twisted a lot to favour your church business. God bless The Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) God bless The Prophet Isa (Jesus) We All are just servants of the living God! May he forgive us our everyday sins N:B Quote me million tyms if its not reasonable I won't reply 1 Like |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 10:01am On Dec 27, 2014 |
balash: Point of correction: Jesus is not a prophet of allah. Going by muslim creed, ''there is no God save allah and Muhammad is his prophet''. The only prophet allah has is Muhammad. To you. asking questions or making observations amount to hatred for islam? You have said nothing to defend the op from your thorough research. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by NIJJAking(m): 10:30am On Dec 27, 2014 |
muslim u people should stop deceiving urself and know once and for all that Jesus christ and ur isah is not the same,,,,,Jesus christ is never the servant of ur allah,,,,,Jesus christ and ur allah that is satan are enemies |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by balash(m): 6:29am On Dec 28, 2014 |
truthman2012: Jesus,moses,solomon,David etc are all the prophet of Allah including Muhammed(pbuh) he just was a favourite of the lord,he had loads of temptation to say weird things to the love and his patience was tested a lot but he was firm in his faith, do u know all his children died in his lifetime? Etc |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 7:03am On Dec 28, 2014 |
balash: If Muhammad was a favourite of the Lord, why should all his children die in his lifetime? It is a curse to live after one's children. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by malvisguy212: 8:32am On Dec 28, 2014 |
Muhammed die of posion, even when he recite the incantation of the quran.it dint work; Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5440: Aisha reported that when Allah’s Messenger fell ill, he recited over his body Mu’awwidhatan and blew over him and when his sickness was aggravated I used to recite over him and rub him with his hand with the hope that it was more blessed. THE DEVIL IMPERSONATOR,GABRIEL PRAYED BUT IT DINT WORK; Ibn Sa’d, page 265: The apostle of Allah fell ill and he i.e. Gabriel, chanted on him, saying, “In the name of Allah I chant on to ward off from you every thing that harms you and (to ward off you) against every envier and from every evil eye and Allah will heal you.” Let us analyze the prayers of this “Gabriel.” He stated very positively that Allah “will heal” the Prophet. He said, “In the name of Allah Who will cure you and Who will heal you from every malady.” Muhammad had every reason to believe, because it was this very same “Gabriel” who brought the messages of the Qur’an from Allah to him. Yet, the prayers of this spirit were not answered by Allah. So how could this spirit be so sure that Allah “will cure” Muhammad when he actually did not? Can this “Gabriel” be trusted? Can the Qur’an, which was transmitted through this same deceiving spirit, be trusted? If this spirit lied about the outcome of the sickness, could he not have also lied about the divine claim of the Qur’an? Are not these clues as to who this spirit really is? Why did not Allah prevent “Gabriel” from delivering a false promise of hope to Muhammad? If Allah could permit “Gabriel” to make a false statement regarding a matter that concerns the life and death of his Prophet, could he not have also permitted other false messages to be transmitted to. Muhammad? Can the other messages delivered by this “Gabriel” be trustworthy? According to Islamic theology, “Gabriel” is the “Holy Spirit” (Ruh Al-Qudus). Can the “Holy Spirit” be wrong about the outcome of Muhammad’s illness? 1 Like |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by balash(m): 8:40am On Dec 28, 2014 |
truthman2012: Why won't he be favourite when he was known as the prophet and he lost all his children in his lifetime which implies his lineage is ended and he still stood firm with his faith? How many human can be that faithful ![]() |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by MyNameIsSteve(m): 8:42am On Dec 28, 2014 |
The truth is revealed here: www.islamlies.com |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Anomnity: 9:27am On Dec 28, 2014 |
malvisguy212:You have finally and permanently defeated that religion.Non of them can ever reply this. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 10:01am On Dec 28, 2014 |
balash: Muhammad had no choice but to still stand firm in allah's faith,otherwise he would have been tortured to death by Jubril. He had once tortured him thrice almost to death when he disobeyed (Sahih Bukhari Vol.9, Bk 87, No. 111). 1 Like |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 10:23am On Dec 28, 2014 |
@ mulvisguy That hadith by Sahih Muslim, Book 026, No. 5440 you cited is enough for muslims to run away from islam. God bless you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:32pm On Dec 28, 2014 |
malvisguy212 and truthman2012 why do you like speaking out of ignorance in the first place pls where did you hear that prophet Muhammad died of poison? I will make my post here as brief as possible in the first place the issue has been treated here https://www.nairaland.com/296050/death-prophet-muhammad-p.b.u.h-question concerning the hadith have you read the scientific proof backing it? I quoted part of it with citation and the rest you can Google it The Al Ajwa Dates are rich in minerals like Potassium, Magnesium, Calcium, Fiber, Proteins & Vitamins. Potassium: Is crucial for life and necessary for the heart, controlling blood pressure (American Heart Association) , kidneys, and other organs to work normally. Low potassium is also associated with a risk of stroke, arthritis, cancer, digestive disorders, and infertility. Magnesium: Experts say that many people in the U.S. aren't eating enough foods with magnesium. It helps keep blood pressure normal, bones strong, and the heart rhythm steady. Calcium: Is Good for Bones & Teeth, it also plays important role in several other body functions like nerve signal transmission, hormone release, muscle contraction, blood vessel function and blood clotting. Type-2 Diabetes: Al Ajwa Dates contain fructose, a major portion of the total sugar in the fruit. It is important to note that fructose has the lowest glycemic indexamong natural sugars and has been proven to be very effective in controlling glycemia in type-2 diabetic patients. Because fructose was considerably higher than glucose in its total sugar content, consumption of date fruits are less harmful to persons having issues with sugar modulation, as in the case of type-2 diabetics. (J. Agric. Food Chem. 2013, 61, 5834-5840) Anti-Oxidant and Anti-Inflammatory: The anti-inflammatory activity of the pure isolates from Ajwa fruits was revealed by their COX-1 and -2 enzyme inhibitions. Among these, flavonoid glycoside 1 showed the highest COX-1 enzyme inhibitory profile, similar to that of aspirin, and COX-2 enzyme inhibition similar to that of naproxen. Triterpenoids 2 and 3 also showed moderate COX-1 and -2 enzyme inhibitions, similar to ibuprofen. (J. Agric. Food Chem. 2013, 61, 5834-5840) Normal Food and Dates: The normal food we eat every day may not give us the required quantity of minerals and amino acids, for example, in comparison with what we might obtain from eating few dates. Dates contain a high percentage of carbohydrate, 14 types of fatty acids, 15 salts and minerals, protein with 23 different amino acids, six vitamins and a high percentage of dietary fiber. (Int. Journal Food Sci Nutr. 2003 Jul;54(4):247-59) Child Birth: Eating dates eases the pain of childbirth, helps produce milk for nursing mother and also prevents blood loss after childbirth. Healthy Heart: Eating dates daily can protect against atherosclerosis, a major cause of heart attacks and strokes. its better you repent 3:85 Whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. 5:72 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. ... Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers. I have always tell you that i all Islam has been perfected when the prophet makes that statement that doesn't mean it will avert destiny destiny cant change "We hold the store of every thing and we send it down in an appointed measure". (Surah al-Hijri, 15:21) "Allah has set a measure for all things". (Surah al-Talaq, 65:2) comment insha Allah I will reply when I am free coz am very busy this days there are many things you dont know about the man made religion called Christianity you don't know. I will open a thread for that |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 10:06pm On Dec 28, 2014 |
@ Abdulsalam20 I'm amazed at your defence. It is not possible for muslims of this age to change the story of Muhammad's death. Even from the link you gave, one of the hadiths by Bukhari confirmed that it was the effect of the poison that cut Muhammad's jugular vein. Then why did you say he didn't die of poison? That it took some years before he died does not remove the truth that it was the effect of the poison that killed him. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by malvisguy212: 10:27pm On Dec 28, 2014 |
Abdusalem20. Are you more interlingent then sahih bukhari? Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 713: Narrated ‘Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O ‘Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.” This verse in the quran is a dying man prayer; Surah 7:188: Say: “I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner.” (Yusuf Ali) Let us analyze the admission of Muhammad in Surah 7:188. It should be of interest for Muslims to know that in this single verse in Surah 7:188, Muhammad admitted the following: (1) He has no power over any good or harm to himself. (2) He has no knowledge of the unseen. (3) And because of these limitations, evil (in this case, poison) touched him. (4) He was just a warner. One can almost feel an admission of hopelessness by Muhammad in this verse. It is a dying man’s confession! Muslims who ascribe power and miracles to Muhammad are, in fact, deceiving themselves. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Abdulsalam20(m): 2:02am On Dec 29, 2014 |
malvisguy212:@BOLDED ONE ignorancy is a disease you should have try to dispute my simple explanation in the first instance you said poison killed prophet Muhammad then why didn't him die instantly or maybe u should try to know the meaning of poison @ this stage you need m more lesson did you have the knowledge of the last visit of angel Gabriel to Muhamed [ saw] when ang well Gabriel told him th atangel of death is approaching and as med if he will want an extension you can read various beneficial article on it I should have. paste it here but i want this post to be short and brief you can read everything concerning the prophets death here in douding the list I posted for you before 1. https://www.nairaland.com/296050/death-prophet-muhammad-p.b.u.h- question 2. http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?40388-The-Death-of-our-beloved-Prophet-Muhammad(pbuh) [when the statementwas made by prophet Muhammad it was on his death bed it doesn't affect him during his prophethood read those articles concerning the post that Muhammad [pbuh] doesn't have knowledge of the future yes 31.34. With God alone rests the knowledge of the Last Hour (when it will come). He sends down rain (just at the time and place He alone knows), and He alone knows what is in the wombs. No soul knows what it will reap tomorrow, and no soul knows in what place it will die. Surely God is All- Knowing, All-Aware prophets only know what is revealed to them [ Quran 13:38] And, indeed, WE sent Messengers before thee, and WE gave them wives and children. And it is not possible for a Messenger to bring a Sign save by the command of Allah. For every matter there is a decree from Allah. and even the issue of poison the propjet knew about it instantly as he chew little. just read those two articlezzzzz jesus knows nothing u nless what is revealed to him; Mark 24: 32-36: 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Jhn 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said , My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself ; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment , what I should say , and what I should speak. Jhn 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. Jhn 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings : and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. So everything Jesus had was from God, from the Gospel to his miracles. God needs no one to give him power, God needs no one to tell him what to do, therefore Jesus is not God. If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:28 Jesus said "I do nothing of myself" ? Can't GOD do anything he wills? If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 Jesus said "My Father (GOD) is greater than I" ? If Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46 Jesus said "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit" ? If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 10:18 Jesus said “And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” ? Also in Luke 18:19 Jesus said only GOD Almighty is Good: ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone." I JUST LAUGH AT YOUR IGNORANCY YOU SAID THE JEW KILL JESUS AND HE CARRIED YOUR SINS AWAY THEN THE JEWS ARE SINLESS IF NOT FOR THEM YOUWILL STILL BE IN SIN..........THOSE IDIOTS HAVE MAKE YOU MENTALLY INSTABLE BY SENDING YOU PAUL SO THAT YOU WILLFEEL THEY ARE SINLESS EVEN THOUGH HE CONFESSED TO BE A CHAMELLION AND HS TEAÇHING CONTRADICT TEACHING OF JESUS YOU STILL DONT THINK truthman2012 welcome back to nairaland after running away I won't argue much with us because all these I have explain it to u before us only want to aegue u dont want to learn 3:85 Whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. 5:72 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. ... Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers Jesus is a plàiñ Warner he has no knowledge of the future if hè do why was he slapped he should have known before th at time why did hè run to the forest if he is all knôwing 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by malvisguy212: 6:32am On Dec 29, 2014 |
Abdusalam20. If it not posion that killed him, what killed him? The hadith is clear, he confess,he still feel the pain untill he died. Ibn Sa’d, page 252: The apostle of Allah lived after these three years till in consequence of his pain he passed away. During his illness he used to say, “I did not cease to find the effect of the (poisoned) morsel, I took at Khaibar and I suffered several times (from its effect) but now I feel the hour has come of the cutting of my jugular vein.” This is an indisputable confession from Muhammad himself that the Jewish poison caused his premature death. He ate the poison and later died from it. The Jews said, “We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you.” And they did get rid of him for good. INCANTATION OF THE QUR’AN Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5440: Aisha reported that when Allah’s Messenger fell ill, he recited over his body Mu’awwidhatan and blew over him and when his sickness was aggravated I used to recite over him and rub him with his hand with the hope that it was more blessed. Ibn Sa’d, page 322: Verily, whenever the apostle of Allah fell ill, he asked for recovery, from Allah. But in the illness as a result of which he died, he did not pray for recovery; he used to say, “O soul! What has happened to thee that thou are seeking refuge in every place of refuge?” All the bible verse you quote are out of topic, what are you tring to prove? |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 7:52am On Dec 29, 2014 |
@ Abdulsalam20 From history and the evidences made available, it takes islamic manipulations to still deny Muhammad did not die of poison. AJWA DATES You defined Ajwa Dates as a substance containing various minerals and vitamins and not a spiritual substance. Muhammad recommended it as a remedy for POISON and MAGIC, yet he was affected by both. Then, where did he get the inspiration from? |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Abdulsalam20(m): 1:32pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
truthman2012: mr man i have already answred your question the prophet recommend it its just like a medicine.....just like all this tablets yu are buying nowadays therefore you should know that all medicine might work but destiny will prevail..........and NOTE THE POISO DOESNT AFECT THE PROPHET DURING HIS PROPHETIC PERIOD IT ONLY AFFECT HIM AFTER GARIEL CAME TO HIM AND INFORM HIM THAT ANGEL OF DEATH IS APPROACHING AND ASK IF HE IS READY AND THE PROPHET SAID YES.........this question is asked frm all prophet before angel of death approach them......even during the era of moses.............therefore understand that islam doesnt support any form of magic ALSO YOU SAID ISLAM MANIPULATE THE STORY everybody knows that the most honest people on earth are muslims that one is audible to the deaf and visible to the blind becauise islam forbid lies............and that is why islam is the only religion that never tamper his scripture up till date q:15:9 We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). JUST AS GOD SAYS IN THE GLORIOUS QURAN WHEN GOD WAS TALKING ABOUT PHARAOH We brought the tribe of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his troops pursued them out of tyranny and enmity. Then, when he was on the point of drowning, he [Pharaoh] said: "I believe that there is no god but Him in Whom the tribe of Israel believes. I am one of the Muslims." (Qur'an, 10:90) THEN GOD SAYS FURTHER "What, now! When previously you rebelled and were one of the corrupters? Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you. Surely many people are heedless of Our Signs." (Qur'an, 10:91-92) JUST LIKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE HEEDLESS OF THE SIGN I PRAY GOD SHOW YOU THE WAY 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by truthman2012(m): 2:08pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
Abdulsalam20: Muhammad recommended Ajwa Dates as a remedy for POISON and MAGIC. Was it not allah who gave him this knowledge as an illiterate man? Why did that knowledge fail him? Please note that it was when he was dying of POISON that the angel of death came to him. Death is a spirit that comes to any dying person, irrespective of the cause of death. Ho could mulisms be the most honest people on earth when the Quran they are following is full of lies? Read this to be convinced: https://www.nairaland.com/2069777/killings-bible-not-same-killings |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Abdulsalam20(m): 3:51pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
truthman2012: I Should have interfere but i wasnt aware of the topic infact the topic is very funny............ ![]() you eventually run away after seeing the truth if it is about terror in the old testament https://www.nairaland.com/1869607/christianity-religion-terrorism if it is about new testament you will see it here http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt.html contradictions https://www.nairaland.com/1869664/contradictions-bible you said quran is full of lies.........then yoy shold have pointed it out ![]() ![]() THE CASE OF PHARAOH SHOULD BE A PRACTICAL EXAMPLE FOR YOU YOU SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTAND THE MAIN TOPIC IF YOU WISH TO LEARN BUT I DISCOVER YOU ONLY WANT TO CRITICISE 5:72 They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by malvisguy212: 4:26pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
Abdulsalam20:you claim all those question has been answer but unfortunately no Muslim post a coment on that thread. Here is another prove that allah lied. https://www.nairaland.com/1970166/lying-deity |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by tartar9(m): 4:39pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
malvisguy212:so you are implying the Holy Prophet(SAW) is suppose to live forever.and he wasnt killed by poison. |
Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by malvisguy212: 5:12pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
tartar9:all soul must test death, including Jesus (but was alive) but in the case of muhammed, even when the lying spirit(Gabriel) pray for him, nothing happen. Muhammed confessed he still feel the pain of the posion that lead to his death. |
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