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Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 11:58am On Dec 31, 2014 |
Introduction:: The final phase of my trilogy on Shari'ah will deal with; A. Jihad B. Slavery C. Jizya I delved into the fallacy behind blasphemy, religious coercion, and civil laws under Shari'ah in the previous phase. There, i briefly discussed Islamism; a movement whose goal is conquering the world and full implementation of Shari'ah worldwide. This movement is akin to fascism in that it seek control all of human affairs, and akin to Nazism because it seek to eliminate all it opponents forcefully and bloodily. I am not writing to persuade the Islamists or Shari'ah advocates. I write to expose the menace creeping into our society through deception and ignorance. Sure, there are other areas of Shari'ah that wont be covered in this work but this is the most detailed and straightforward criticism of Shari'ah you may find. Most critics seldom go beyond stoning or amputation and even then, there is barely rational analysis and sound debunking of these laws other than mere protest or rejection. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 12:20pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
Jihad:: What is "Jihad"? Jihad is the arabic word for 'struggle' or 'strive'. However, its connotation throughout Muslim history has been military invasion of non-Muslim territories to implement Shari'ah. Shari'ah divides the world in two; the abode of peace which is the region under Shari'ah and the abode of war, which the region not ruled by Shari'ah. The abode of war is to be militarily invaded after it has been invided to Islam by Muslim but it refuses. Where does the Shari'ah decree of Jihad emanate from? In one of my past article, i delved into details to answer this question. Muslim scholars often refer to the fifth verse of Chapter 9 of the Qur'an as the Verse of the Sword. In his exegesis of the Qur'an, Ibn Kathir; a foremost authority of Qur'an in the Muslim world explains that this verse legislate fighting non-Muslims for the sake of their disbelief. Confirm |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 12:24pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
There are popular Muslim traditions that also confirms the decree of Jihad; Sahih Bukhari Lastly the decree of Jihad is confirmed by concensus of mainstream Islamic clergy. All the schools of law of orthodox Islam affirm that Shari'ah is an obligation and any Muslim who deny it is an apostate. Confirm |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by PastorKun(m): 12:31pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
So what solution do you profer for this problem given the fact that it is a core tenet of islamic beliefs? @usermane |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 12:31pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
Doesn't Shari'ah stand against attack on innocent lives? Yes it does. No Shari'ah advocate/Islamist will defend attacking innocent people. But it must be understood that Shari'ah doesn't recognize non-Muslims who refuse Islam as innocent, additionally, it deem anyone who opposes it implementation to be guilty. That explain why Shari'ah driven Jihadist groups like ISIS kill even Kurdish fighters who may be Muslims. What is the ramification? Obviously loss of lives and properties. Jihadists believe that the end justifies the means, that the Shari'ah state that will be established on conquest is so beautiful that it is worth any amount of bloodshed. If this is true, why hasn't any of the Shari'ah states invaded non-Muslims? Because they lack the military competence to do so today. In the middle ages, Arab and Turkish empires militarily invaded and conquered non-Muslim empires around them like the Roman and Persian empire. They invoked Shari'ah to sanction all these. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by iamodenigbo1(m): 12:42pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
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Re: Shari'ah III: War! by delishpot: 1:21pm On Dec 31, 2014 |
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Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 6:35am On Jan 01, 2015 |
Slavery:: What happens if the Jihadists complete their invasion? Shari'ah grant them the option of enslaving their hostage or captives whom they distribute like booty; Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz: Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army." What is the fate of these slaves? Their fate is left to their masters. A slave could serve as domestic servant, a farm laborer or a concubine. A slave may not disobey or flee from his master. Shari'ah regards that to be a grave sin or crime. Slaves may be bought, sold, gifted, manumitted, married or exchanged for another. Slaves are not forced to embrace 'Islam' but their children are unquestionably Muslims and cannot leave Islam. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 6:48am On Jan 01, 2015 |
Here are few examples: Sunan an-Nasa'i » The Book of Financial Transactions |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 6:51am On Jan 01, 2015 |
What is the rationale behind Shari'ah permitting slavery and executing homosexuals? One would expect a law often touted as moral compass of a God conscious society to forbid apparent means of oppression like slavery but it doesn't. Shari'ah advocates are too busy in their pursuit for validation of Shari'ah that analyzing the decrees and rationale behind them is overlooked as a distraction. There is no logic in killing two men for sexual relations while another man oppresses and humiliate someone else without even a slap on the wrist. But when we think deeply, we find that slavery entails overpowering and subjagating non-Muslims, leaving them so weak that Muslims' dominance is cemented. Therefore, being a law enacted to ensure dominance of Muslims over non-Muslims, Shari'ah legalizes slavery, overlooking the misery and burden that slaves might bear. Shari'ah encourage Mannumision of slaves, mandate fair treatment of slaves, prohibit enslaving persons unless they are war captives or children of slaves. Isn't Shari'ah structured to minimize slavery? Not really. Although Shari'ah dooes forbid kidnapping and enslaving free persons or punishing criminals by slavery, it does overcome this by legislating regular Jihad from which a lot are enslaved for resisting the Jihadists. Is sex slavery a better alternative to prostitution? One justification for sex slavery by Shari'ah advocates/Islamists is that it is less harmful to the society than prostitution. Of course when we consider the health risk involved, it seem to be true. But overall, the reverse may be the case. Sex slavery objectifies women than anything imaginable. The reasons being that' unlike prostitutes, sex slaves earn nothing in return and have no right to quit their role. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 8:19am On Jan 01, 2015 |
PastorKun: either Muslims admit there is lot of problem with Shari'ah and amend it or scrap it out for good. Do we legalize a system that is discriminatory, bias and oppressive simply because some people claim it is a tenet of their religion? That will be freedom of belief or tolerance gone mad. PS: Sorry for not replying earlier, Pastor. 1 Like |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by PastorKun(m): 8:25am On Jan 01, 2015 |
usermane: But you know the islamic religion Prohibits it's adherents from changing any thing sanctioned in the quoran. They see it as allah's word that cannot be changed. Infact attempting to change it could earn the reformer a fatwa. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 9:26am On Jan 01, 2015 |
PastorKun: Is there any religion that doesn't prohibit its adherent from altering it laws? Look at Isreal today, Isreali Muslims live in peace and comfort than Bahai Muslims in Iran or Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. If we look at the Tanakh, it has more oppressive teachings than the Qur'an. How did the Isreali Jews reconcile this? |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by PastorKun(m): 10:58am On Jan 01, 2015 |
usermane: I guess they are more tolerant of change and indoctrination in islam is more intense. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by nora544: 11:06am On Jan 01, 2015 |
What I learn in the last weeks after we hear here in austria about books they use in a private school from saudi arabia in vienna, and the Austrian goverment closed the school with the end of the school year because the kids learn to hate people who didnot belong to their religion. this teaching has no room in a free country. Saudia arabia is a country with a double standart like america. Hate has no room in an schoolbook. 1 Like |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 12:43pm On Jan 01, 2015 |
nora544: Very few people are aware that there is an underground movement spearheaded by the Muslim Brotherhood to take over Europe and America, establish a caliphate and enforce Shari'ah. The increasing population and radicalization of western Muslims, the increasing number of Mosques in the West, those Islamofascist Books or curriculum in Western schools from Saudi Arabia are just a part of the sinister plan of the Muslim Brotherhood to take over the West. NB: Muslim Brotherhood is the largest Muslim organisation in the world. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by nora544: 12:48pm On Jan 01, 2015 |
usermane: I know this and we had a war some 100 years ago when the muslims stand infront of the walls from vienna but with the help of some other countries we could throw them back. We know this here in austria because at the moment about 100 muslims with austrian passport or people who got Asylum fighting at the moment with the ISIS. We have also put some of this radical Muslims in prison. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 6:33pm On Jan 01, 2015 |
Jizya What is the fate of the non-Muslims after they have been conquered by the Jihadists? Once the invasion is completed and the captives have been distributed as slaves, the rest of the townfolk have 3 options. A: Embrace Islam B. Pay Jizya C. Face Death if the non-Muslim townfolks are Jews or Christians, they may choose from the 3 options. If they include atheists, agnostics, deists or pagans, only option A and C is permitted for them. Sahih Muslim>> Book of Jihad |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 6:45pm On Jan 01, 2015 |
What is Jizya? Jizya is a derivative of a root word; Jaza which mean a recompense or compensation. In the context of Shari'ah, Jizya is a fee charged on non-Muslims living under the Shari'ah state. All adult non-Muslim males must pay Jizya periodically in order to live peacefully in the state. The value of this fee is not fixed and may vary depending on the decision of Shari'ah authorities. Is Jizya synonymous to state tax or non-Muslim variation of Zakat? Don't be deceived by apologists, Shari'ah is not merely a state tax or non-Muslim variation of Zakat for a number of reasons; 1. Linguistically, Jizya imply a recompense or compensation, not a tax. Zakat mean purification. 2. Jizya is charged on adult non-Muslim males. Tax is charged upon the working class in the society, regardless of gender or religion. Zakat is charged on Muslim adults earning a living. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 6:58pm On Jan 01, 2015 |
3. Jizya can be periodically varied by Shari'ah authorities, Zakat is fixed. 4. Jizya is paid by the non-Muslims to be granted peace. It is meant to humiliate them. Tax goes to the government and serve as revenue for running state public affairs. Zakat goes to the poor, needy orphan, destitute. Tafsir Ibn Kathir>>Qur'an 9:29 |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by tartar9(m): 1:39am On Jan 02, 2015 |
change Shariah!! thats impossible.cant wait for whenTRUE Jihad will resume.of muslims united under the banner of the caliphate to destroy the evils of kufr rulership on Allah's earth.and that time is near. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by PastorKun(m): 8:06am On Jan 02, 2015 |
tartar9: Hmmmmn a true muslim talking, but why can't your allah take over rulership of the earth himself? Why is he depending on 1nbeciles like you |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by Numismatic(m): 8:32am On Jan 02, 2015 |
Christains in the Southern Part of this country should arise and Pray for our brothers in the North,who are going through alot in the hands of these Jihadists.The church is divided, and while we are fighting each other,the enemy is slowly destroying the work of God in the North.The Southern christains are at ease in Zion, saying, oh, this is not our Problem, its the problem of the North,but forgetting that Turkey was once 100% Christain country but right now Christains in Turkey constitute just 0.06% of the population..Christains Should know that we are at war, in this country, we need to pray, to be united, and raise disciples instead of Millonaires.. There is an elaborate plan to Islamise this country..Christains Arise! Every christain should read the Abuja declaration of 1989 https://www.nairaland.com/1797596/abuja-declaration-1989 |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 11:56am On Jan 02, 2015 |
Conclusion Truth Too often, we fail to realize the power of ideas. Most of us seldom study. Shari'ah advocates and Islamists realize this and exploit it to their advantage via strawman argument and window dressing. They tell you that Shari'ah bans things like alcohol and usury for the good of man. They never tell you that according to Shari'ah, a ruler cannot be questioned or held accountable for offenses. They seldom tell you that only Islamic symbols are permitted and crucifix, bible and other religious symbols are outlawed by Shari'ah. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(m): 12:16pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
Reality Iran and Turkey where secularized in the first third of last century. By 1979, Shari'ah had been fully returned to Iran. Today, secularism is losing virtually all its grip over Turkey for Shari'ah. This is happening because, we fail to realise we are caught in a war of ideas in which Shari'ah advocates and Islamists do all the attack while the secularists, liberals and democrats seldom counter-attack. This same war is all over America and Europe today. Any non-Muslim who dare question or condemn Shari'ah is branded an Islamophobe while any Muslim who dare express mere contempt for Shari'ah is dubbed an hypocrite or western agent. Whereas, 95% of Shari'ah doesn't come from the Qur'an, but from hearsays collected no earlier than 150 years after Muhammad and opinions or teachings of clergy who have no authority from the Qur'an. The rest 5% of Shari'ah from the Qur'an concerns theft, adultery, murder, divorce and inheritance which are distorted and misapplied by the traditionalists who represent the mainstream. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by tartar9(m): 12:24pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
Numismatic:christains and their paranoia |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by Numismatic(m): 12:26pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
tartar9: See it as you want but the facts are there.. You can choose to ignore them |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by nora544: 2:30pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
tartar9: sorry that is not tru because also we here in europa see this new islam and we don't want it. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by tartar9(m): 2:36pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
nora544:what do u mean?they are also islamizing europe :-/ |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by nora544: 2:44pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
tartar9: there are some groups in europa who give out the koran for free and try to bring young people to the islam and that they should fight for ISIS or that they should go and marry a fighter there. In my country we have a hotline from the goverment where paratns get help when they see that their kida are in contact with such a group, also we have some imans here some of them sit now in prision for terorism. |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by tartar9(m): 2:54pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
nora544:which country u in? |
Re: Shari'ah III: War! by nora544: 3:25pm On Jan 02, 2015 |
tartar9: I am from austria, Vienna |
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