Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,201,688 members, 7,979,320 topics. Date: Saturday, 19 October 2024 at 06:20 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Foreign Affairs / Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? (4545459 Views)
Iran Vs Israel: Who Has The Strongest Military ? / Evidence That Putin Is Strongest Man And Obama Is A Filthy Whimpering Dog / Which Country Has The Strongest Economy In Africa. (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) ... (1626) (1627) (1628) (1629) (1630) (1631) (1632) ... (2991) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:08am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Bagders enter service next year, and multiple units are currently in use by the SANDF BTR-4 is a BTR-3 with a new engine, and is not at all impressive The BTR-4 and Patria are the same speed Patria has better and more advanced armor (yours can only stop 7.62) How does the BTR-4 beat the Patria in "amphibious ability"? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:10am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: They are the same speed Softer suspension is better for off road abilities Tell us what technology and performance is inferior. Dont just say it. Show us. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 12:10am On Jan 02, 2015 |
mzilakazi: The task for us is not over! So relax and see us do what the Americans and NATO Forces are finding difficult to do elsewhere with all the weapons and expertise at their disposal! Welcome to 2015. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:11am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Just like Henry120 who is by definition unprofessional |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 12:13am On Jan 02, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: The Taliban does not enjoy the same freedom or success that BH does Last I checked, the NATO forces have never been thrown into full retreat by Taliban!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:42am On Jan 02, 2015 |
patches689: The entire super power force of over 20,000 NATO army, air force, marines and special forces are fast retreating from Taliban war after 11 years of failure in Afghanistan. American military Colonels and General have died there. Now the USA/NATO is running away. Nigeria is still fighting Boko Haram. SANDF has ZERO war experience in COIN and retreated forever from Bangui because of Seleka rebels . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30am On Jan 02, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: True, war experience is vital especially in COIN which is called ASYMMETRIC WARFARE as it follows no rules, no pattern, no predictable tactics, the enemy can do anything and appear anywhere, he has no visible base, no uniform ID, no textbook methods, he can do what you least expect and does not follow the international laws of war. Terrorists can wear a country's army uniform and deceive civilians and confuse soldiers, before you know it, death is at the door ! The hardest war is COIN, experience is the best teacher, every insurgent group is different and unique in doctrine and tactics . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 1:31am On Jan 02, 2015 |
patches689: Full retreat? You sound drained from 2014! Where are the signs, the news, or even the usual propaganda to support your wishful thinking? Fact remains we do to terrorism what the world has been unable to do ... contain, sustain, maintain the pounding and due defeat of your terrorist friends! Forward and onward! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:34am On Jan 02, 2015 |
patches689: Butt hurt Southie Envy will run you maaaaaad Nigeria has BTR-4 on battlefield today and photos are all over internet, see more below a Nigerian soldier posing to hurt your feelings Photo Copyright is the world respected Beegeagle SANDF has NO Badger IFV in service, and date of production has been cancelled many times from 2014, to 2015, now to 2017....dreams only No money for SANDF = No Badger IFV for SANDF = South Africa is broke See Nigeria advancing beyond South Africa with Africa's best IFV.....BTR-4 ! .
|
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:51am On Jan 02, 2015 |
patches689: There is NO single Badger IFV in SANDF service, only 2 units for factory evaluation, NOT combat, NOT army arsenal. Patria speed is 100km/h, BTR-4 is 110 km/h speed. Patria battle field situation awareness is poor, no armoured windows and screens to back up the interior video monitor like the BTR-4 has both. There are two different armour options for BTR-4 one with basic bullet protection, the other with ADDITIONAL protection against RPG. "Weight of the vehicle version: Basic protection 17.5tons With additional protection 25tons Crew commander, gunner, driver Troops 7-9 (Depending on the type of the fighting module)" SOURCE : http://tanknutdave.com/the-ukrainian-btr-4-apc-family/ SANDF is NOT buying Patria IFV, you are buying the Badger IFV a dry land only version with ZERO amphibious capability. Your unlucky Badger will retreat back home when it faces river Zambezi in a hot battle chase and needs to swim cross, your expensive weak Badger will sink to river bottom and die there in water Nigerian BTR-4 IFV will swim across rivers to launch attack or form defence, Nigeria wins ! .
|
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 2:08am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Production has allways been scheduled for this year (2015) first units will roll off the production line in no time You think a handfull of poor quality BTRs impresses us? We are building over 200 advanced IFVs you say te btr is better? Show us how. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:06am On Jan 02, 2015 |
Patchesagain: I just showed you above, see my post and photo. Butt hurt, SANDF fvcks around town with 1980s era old generation out-dated and obsolete Ratel IFV ugly piece of scrap metal junk .
|
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:27am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust:When bullets start flying it is no longer about muscles but training nd skills. Israel taught Egypt a lesson even when they had better technology. Nigeria can't even match BH. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:37am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust:20 000 is actually small as all those troops aren't combat forces. COIN? The SANDF is led by people who were involved in both sides of the bush war. PLAN was ten times stronger than BH. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:39am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust:The SANDF has Badger IFVs. Your BTR-4 isn't close to the Ratel IFV. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:40am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Most of your equipment is obsolete from 1970s as confirmed by your commanders. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:43am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Nigeria has only 5 BTR4 IFVs. Bwahahaaha!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:47am On Jan 02, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: Please!! Don't compare rag tag BH to ISIS and other terrorist groups in the middle east. The BH is just only a drop in an ocean as compared to those well armed groups. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:48am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust:Battlefield awareness? windows for? The Badger boasts advanced sensors. The Driver can open his window. The Ratel IFV isn't amphibious but when it met amphibious tanks and amphibious in Angola, they were blown up. Nigeria doesn't have an answer to SA mechanised infantry. Reminder: The Badger IFV mortar variant is armed with the M6 long range mortar, targets can greeted up to 6km. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:55am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Badger is the world champion while BTR lacks behind with an old tech of windscreen. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:04am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Badger has all the tech that patria has and has a better armour. Your BTR has a weak armour because of its amphibious feature. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:22am On Jan 02, 2015 |
EVarn: Experience does not count for everything, you might have it yet still being chased around by a well equipped bandits with a sophisticated weapons as in the case with Nigerian forces and BH. As a results it forced the president of Nigeria to make a loan f $1 billion in order to equip his dying Army. Nigeria with their well experienced soldiers lost many Police Stations, Army barracks and Schools right before their noses. Experience does not count without better equipment 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:50am On Jan 02, 2015 |
overhypedsteve:South African made equipment has seen action in Iraq, DRC, Afghanistan, Rwanda, Libya, Angola, Iran, CAR, Morocco and Algeria. Soon the FIB will be continuing combat operations against rebel groups in the DRC. South African equipment will be seen action. In what areas? 1. EW equipment. 2. C2 systems. 3.Vehicles. 4. Missiles. 5. Artillery(both guns and shells). 6. Guided munition. 7. And moreB 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 8:28am On Jan 02, 2015 |
“Ounce for ounce, Boko Haram is equal to if not better than the Nigerian military,” said one American official here, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss operational reports. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/01/01/world/with-schoolgirls-still-missing-fragile-us-nigeria-ties-falter.html?_r=1&referrer= 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 8:50am On Jan 02, 2015 |
1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:06am On Jan 02, 2015 |
GreenandGold: Bwahahaha!!! Nigerian army produces cowards and thereafter sentences them to death for their cowardice. Col Agu is probably dead by now from the firing squad. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:12am On Jan 02, 2015 |
DieVluit: Yes, I agree with the American official. BH is well better than Nigerian Military. No amount of sophisticated weapon can help cowards to win the war. Once a coward always a coward even if you can possess most powerful weapons on earth. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:20am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: Which version do you have? The one only protected against 7.62!! Ours is protected aginst 30mm!! First badgers roll off the production line in just months... and we are building 230 for the first production run. How many BTR-4's do you have? How many are you getting? Badger has superior situational awareness due to the 360 degree thermal imager on the turret - meaning that the commander can keep searching for new targets while the gunner engages others! Your commanders veiw-finder can only face what is being attacked, meaning target aquisition and engagement is slower, and that his situational awareness is poor. I have highlighted the 360 degree imager for you. [s][/s] The badger also carries more men than your BTR The badger has superior weapons, including the worlds most advanced 30mm, longest range 60mm mortar and one of the most lethal ATGM's in existance. With regards to rivers: 1. Amphibious vehicals are at a disadvantage - they are lightly armored, and apart from Recon there is no advantage to amphibious abilities. Proven by the Americans who chose to up armor their bradleys and sacrifice its amphibious capabilities in doing so 2. What are bridges? Can they be laid? Can they be captured? BTR-4 simply does not compare. Lightly armored, old systems, lack of technical innovation, no mine protection, smaller troop capacity and outranged by some 110km by the badger. 1 Like
|
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:23am On Jan 02, 2015 |
agaugust: First, the Ratel is superior to 99% of your arsenal. Second, we are building the most advanced IFV medium in Africa (if not the world) Third, why cant you prove it? You keep saying the BTR is better, why cant you tell us why? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 9:25am On Jan 02, 2015 |
mzilakazi: 3 Operational Badgers > 5 BTR-4's South Africa wins again 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:53am On Jan 02, 2015 |
Nigeria in 2014 got at-least 4 CH-3 UAV's from china. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:54am On Jan 02, 2015 |
DieVluit: This is very incorrect. |
(1) (2) (3) ... (1626) (1627) (1628) (1629) (1630) (1631) (1632) ... (2991) (Reply)
African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread / Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 77 |