Zeezy99:
They keep sending these soldiers on a suicide mission and yet punish them when they refuse? Help is on the way... In 6 weeks the clueless one will be out of office and justice will finally prevail

So you are joined the army to collect salary alone you joined the army to go for suicide mission that is why they signed live or death .know there don't want to die so those that agreed went and died don't have family ba

ogb5:
They refused a direct order, as a consequence their weapons and uniforms were taken from them and they were ordered to stay in the barrack in maiduguri, they disobeyed the order and travel out of maiduguri without permission.

What were they expecting from the series of disobedience to direct orders? A pat in the back?
Even in boyscout there is punishment for disobedience.

God bless you bro.
We all know that as an Army Officer,you first of all obey orders before you complain.
But,it really beats my imagination,how people have become politically-affiliated to the point of criticizing and passing judgmental utterances without conscious in this our country.
Going by most of the comments above,you'd see people have already crucified and buried Gej for what is SOLELY Army's action.

gameboy727:
This is uncalled for. That GOC should be flogged and jailed. The senior officials in the NA are so corrupt and something needs to be done about that. Only the recruits suffer the silly decisions they make both on the war front and in the barracks.

Exactly... This is d main point here which needs attention, yet people ar turning it into an attack on GEJ. I pity our dear GEJ. A man slumps and dies, it is GEJ. A man sleeps and wakes up, its GEJ.
Until we learn to address issues and not GEJ, we would not make progress.

Reski:
What do you expect from soldier's that think they were trained to become audley's/errand boys to their c.o's. Some even think brutalising civilian's is what they were been trained for.
All soldier's are trained to kill and fight war's. Its important that these guys understand their duty and what rules they swore to abide by. Nigerian army is not a conscript army were folks are forced to join. Even if they were given cutlasses or conveyed in keke napep . It's important they give their all and destroy the enemies of our dear country and pay the ultimate price if need be. Because even the most equiped fighting force that lacks the will to fight is a disaster waiting to happen when its meet a highly motivated foe that does'nt even have half of its equipment or training. Which is exactly what is happening to our army in the North east.

That can only be done when the Oga @ the top lives by example...

Zeezy99:
They keep sending these soldiers on a suicide mission and yet punish them when they refuse? Help is on the way... In 6 weeks the clueless one will be out of office and justice will finally prevail

mumu

The Armed Forces of any Nation is a National Pride.

Any country that has descended so low to ridicule its Armed forces is yet not fit to be described as a country.

All this under the Goodluck Administration.

What more could'a happened assuming is was a Badluck administration

xcitedjay:


RPGs, GPMGs etc... Generally, superior weapons that makes it easier for our soldiers to win the war.

. Ever heard of covert operation before? These stuffs(RPGs,GPMGs etc) don't necessary make winning a war easier. You deploy equipment depending on the prevailing situation and mission. The Army strategists might have observed that light weaponry was best for this particular mission. Hence,they gave the order to these soldiers and instead of them to carry out the order,they were questioning it. Such action compromises missions and endangered the lives of true soldiers. So it CAN'T be allowed.

omolami:
No one should pity these soldiers.Maybe they need to go and re-read their oath of allegieance in order to appreciate the level of their offence

For you a man that has never served I find it dispecable that you now seat and type such rubbish .

30 rounds of ammunition against an enemy that is so fierce in a battle that most likely would last hours is like sending one to dine with the devil with a tea spoon.

The Army required of Nigeria to stop Boko Haram is simply Cultural Independence.

Importing weapons that we cannot manufacture to point at local insurgents does not eliminate the process of people being radicalised to develop BH mentality.

The people being radicalised have been inclined from childhood towards a
White Supremacist ideology that makes them justify their action by simply making reference to people who are also doing terrorism outside Nigeria.

Boycott Church and Mosque for one week and BH will vaporize. Though, Europe and Arabia, will not be happy to see us free from ancestral disconnect.

No10:
. Exactly. And thanks. Has it occurred to anyone that this was intended to be a covert operation? Tipper,instead of regular Army trucks was going to be used not because the Army are short of trucks,but because it serves as a form of disguise. The idea was to get behind enemy lines covertly,using the element of surprise, and exterminate them from within. Tanks,RPGs and the rest would make an advancing unit very obvious. Wars are not fought with weapons alone. Strategies,techniques and intelligence are key. Besides,as a soldier you are obliged to obey any order weather you like it or not. Simple.

I'm very sure 30 rounds of ammunition each would not suffice no matter the strategy. These soldiers know well enough that BH are dynamic and not absolutely incompetent.
They know BH have high morale and would fight till the last bullet , and they know once the battle starts whatever happens they would not be resupplied .

Now is that not a suicide mission.

By the way 30 rounds is one clip if you don't know and a well trained soldier can offload that in less than 5 minutes with 10 bursts of 3 rounds .

omolami:
No one should pity these soldiers.Maybe they need to go and re-read their oath of allegieance in order to appreciate the level of their offence

Young man you are a fool for saying dis, it seem u didn't read the above post, do u tink army personal are robot? they are human being for Christ Sake....I don't blame u, sitting behind ur computer or using ur fone to post rubbish. u don't know wat d guys are facing everyday. how their family live everyday wit fear dat their husband, father and son will not come back home... If u must know there is must to the army than wat u tink...the army is highly corrupt and d general will do everytin to crush any junior rank soldier dat cause problem to their stand....those guys deserve beta and not dis...

Badgers14:
Nija Generals na wao , General go sit down for Abj or PH dey organize battlion for Maiduguri like say them they play video game, won't care to equip the foot soldiers. Check world powers like U.S, France, e.t.c regardless of how good they train their soldiers they still provide them with equipments ,better chain of command on the war front. To give u glimpse of what I mean watch these movies, black hawk down or the battle of Mogadishu.

Its true these are movies but are not far from reality.

lolz...i knw say na movie u go talk! Pelle..hollywood dey decieve d world since 12BC

No10:
One question pls,what is "support equipment"?

Otondo! The guy said they were given 30 rounds instead of 60 rounds. Na wa for u o. Even if the article isn't explanatory enough, u no do simple comprehension for WAEC?

Badgers14:
Nija Generals na wao , General go sit down for Abj or PH dey organize battlion for Maiduguri like say them they play video game, won't care to equip the foot soldiers. Check world powers like U.S, France, e.t.c regardless of how good they train their soldiers they still provide them with equipments ,better chain of command on the war front. To give u glimpse of what I mean watch these movies, black hawk down or the battle of Mogadishu.

Its true these are movies but are not far from reality.

lolz...i knw say na movie u go talk! Pelle..hollywood dey decieve d world since 1666

darmochy1:
You owed someone for 5 months and refused to provide them with support equipment, to cap it all, you dismissed them and we're planning to eradicate terrorism. I fear for Nigeria.

5 wetin! D whole of 5 months wey dem no work??

[quote author=No10 post=29400010]One question pls,what is "support equipment"?[/quote

battle tanks,armoured personnel carriers,heavy artillery guns,mg42s. heavy caliber ammunition. ....as opposed to lorries and light arms.

...guess ur stupid questions r answered.

Iyanuasele:

Otondo! The guy said they were given 30 rounds instead of 60 rounds. Na wa for u o. Even if the article isn't explanatory enough, u no do simple comprehension for WAEC?

. Thanks for your very intelligent reply.

Zeezy99:
They keep sending these soldiers on a suicide mission and yet punish them when they refuse? Help is on the way... In 6 weeks the clueless one will be out of office and justice will finally prevail

You must be a problematic Nairalander.

U opened ur account just yesterday and u are already displaying the characteristics of an APC e-rodent.

Obvioisly If you wake up in the morning with neck pain u will blame GEJ.

You don't even knw how to quote correctly,how then wld u knw how to answer a question responsibly?

dannjo:




Young man you are a fool for saying dis, it seem u didn't read the above post, do u tink army personal are robot? they are human being for Christ Sake....I don't blame u, sitting behind ur computer or using ur fone to post rubbish. u don't know wat d guys are facing everyday. how their family live everyday wit fear dat their husband, father and son will not come back home... If u must know there is must to the army than wat u tink...the army is highly corrupt and d general will do everytin to crush any junior rank soldier dat cause problem to their stand....those guys deserve beta and not dis...

Leave all these civilain fools to their folly, these are fathers sons and brothers whose families depend on, they know if they die in battle the welfare of their family can not be gauranteed and they leave their family to an uncertain faith.

Why then would you take 30 rounds to go fight BH in what most likely is close combat .

Some here are talking of covert strategy , please stop your stupidity trying to disguise as military analysts , these are not SPEC OP men these are general army combatants they most likely have not been trained for such an operation.

A spec op covert mission on average lasts a few minutes to maybe hours in some cases with limited contact with the enemy(no fire fights) and most definitely there is no way to move 200 individuals in a covert manner, more than 3 tipper trucks would be required to move the men .

I study small arms design and military weaponry and deployment and there is no way 1 magazine would be enough. Even a USMC soldier with a light load out would carry 180 rounds or so of ammunition knowing the company can resupply if need be

sweetgala:


I'm very sure 30 rounds of ammunition each would not suffice no matter the strategy. These soldiers know well enough that BH are dynamic and not absolutely incompetent.
They know BH have high morale and would fight till the last bullet , and they know once the battle starts whatever happens they would not be resupplied .

Now is that not a suicide mission.

By the way 30 rounds is one clip if you don't know and a well trained soldier can offload that in less than 5 minutes with 10 bursts of 3 rounds .

. You weren't there. You only heard from one side of the story. Beside,whether they were given empty cartridges they are obligated to obey orders. That's why it is the military.

omolami:
No one should pity these soldiers.Maybe they need to go and re-read their oath of allegieance in order to appreciate the level of their offence

Pls tell me what offence there is in requesting for more amunition? They were given 30 rounds instead of the supposed 60rounds.... WTF u talking about?? Ur not in the milliatry i presume so I dont expect you to understand... The top ranking officers should be asked why they didnt issue the remaining 60rounds.... Seems they squandered the money....

Do we really have a standing army in Nigeria?. In every disappointment their is a blessing. This boko haram insurgency is exposing our military as a soldier's without fighting spirit. No fighting spirit because the equipment to fight with is not available.
In all the military trials that we have been hearing of no big officer has been convicted. And all the soldiers tried have been making the same complaints of no good weapons to fight with.
All money budgeted for military every year have no bearings on military equipment. Where is the money going. Or are we going to say the money is spent on personnel.
If we keep looking at the way things are going in the military, one day another group deadly as boko haram will come up with their own harassment.
We need to do something urgent.

No10:
. You weren't there. You only heard from one side of the story. Beside,whether they were given empty cartridges they are obligated to obey orders. That's why it is the military.

Do you know that in most armies I know of there is a minimum specification in combat equipment a CO is obliged to provide his soldiers. In fact to clarify that I'm not going mad I just went over the USMC document for every classification from rifleman to commanding officer in forward deployment.

The consequence of not meeting this obligation where provisions have been made to do so is immediate dismissal and possible criminal charges.

The experience of the USMC and Queens Marines in desert operations is similar to that of the NA and the minimum ammunition on their armour carrier is 180 rounds aka 6 magazines full every rifleman has to take this minimum and the CO has to provide said minimum .

DICON make the rounds we use or so their website claims so FG and NA can't claim "arms are not being sold to us" in this case

IdiAmin1:
What's going on in Nigeria military? 203 trained but unemployed soldiers will be more formidable than 1000 boko boys or 1000 armed robbers. Gej should watch the people he claims to be C-in-C.

pray 4 God 2 give u d spirit of discerning.just because they are loyal 2 some of our past generals who put them where they are 2day should not make them 2 b betraying their country in order 2 protect d interest of their masters.this issue of boko haram just exposed d vulnerability of our military and those who headed d institution in d past shoule b held responsible 2 tell us what transpired within dat 27yrs of military rule with mere continuation 4rm 1999-2007

Chai chai....nigerians there is God oo,,,there is God oo,,,,,the amount of pple perishing and going hungry in this blessed nation is getting too much,,,,,,what is happening?..we r #no one economy in africa but the populace r suffering?..if dey dimiss upto 200 soldiers,,,wetin remain?..#only sm1 that loves hunger/wickedness will vote 4 PDP and goodluck next yr

No10:
. You weren't there. You only heard from one side of the story. Beside,whether they were given empty cartridges they are obligated to obey orders. That's why it is the military.

No, it's not true, it's not just any order. The military Act, section 56(1) says a lawful command. If the order or command is not lawful don't expect any sensible soldier to obey such order cos they are not robots. Let dem get good lawyers to appeal their dismissal jo. God will fight for them.

This is how dare-devil armed robbers are created.

full story here
http://infochapter..com/2015/01/203-nigerian-soldiers-dismissed.html?m=1

Hmmmm! After helping Liberia, siera Leon, sudan etc to stand the same army can't defend their own citizens, I smell a rat. God bring somebody that will bring the glory of the Nigeria Army back.

If you die, you go die for nothing... Speaking in Fela's voice.

No10:
. Exactly. And thanks. Has it occurred to anyone that this was intended to be a covert operation? Tipper,instead of regular Army trucks was going to be used not because the Army are short of trucks,but because it serves as a form of disguise. The idea was to get behind enemy lines covertly,using the element of surprise, and exterminate them from within. Tanks,RPGs and the rest would make an advancing unit very obvious. Wars are not fought with weapons alone. Strategies,techniques and intelligence are key. Besides,as a soldier you are obliged to obey any order weather you like it or not. Simple.

please no dey answer all these ppl think say army Na civil service.

Nigerian army just like some folks here are unfit to understand situations at hand.

Those soldiers are on-a -need- to know-basis. You don't expect the top brass to disclose all tactics to the troops...there may be moles among them that will disclose info to the insurgents... So all they have to do is to obey order..

Army is a Unit not some organisation.