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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:48pm On Jan 02, 2015
Henry120:
Oh lawd

NAF's up-graded MI-35
sick!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:49pm On Jan 02, 2015
agaugust:


Not the FLIR alone, the platform itself. South African air force has NO SINGLE aircraft in the modern class of the NAF Diamond Surveillance planes, we are above your level cheesycheesy
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You don't know.

SAAF has better capabilities. Tell us what does SAAF use for COMINT, ELINT, Radar location and more?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:53pm On Jan 02, 2015
agaugust:


All those options of weapons are available on BTR-4 if we want to mix versions.

BTR-4 also has Automatic Grenade Launchers.

Problem for your versions of Badger is that SANDF has NONE of them in service today....maybe dreams can come true for SANDF in year 2020....by then the Badger design is obsolete....Nation of fools, struggling to induct one IFV into service for 10 years now, nothing inside your armoury...NO Badger IFV....we proved SANDF has NO SINGLE Badger tonguetonguetongue
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Nigeria has a single variant. Because you cannot afford nor support more.

How does a machine that is still developed becomes obsolete?

It is a project managed by armscor funded by th SA army, soon as tests are done and weapon systems are qualified. Production will start.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:54pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
All those are irrelevant as they won't help Nigeria defend her waters against enemy combat vessels.

-No missiles.
-No surface capability.
-No sub-surface capability.
-No anti-submarine capability.

Basically your navy cannot fight. They are just a coast guard.


All Nigerian armed forces are currently being rearmed and rebuilt, see the new Mi-35 upgrade photo posted today by Henry.

Watch out for Nigerian navy, we are coming slow and steady, that's how we work wonders !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:55pm On Jan 02, 2015
Henry120:
Oh lawd

NAF's up-graded MI-35
Similar to the Algerian Super Hind.

Nigeria should retire these rubbish helos and get a real attack helicopters, Algeria will be replacing theirs with the MI-28.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:59pm On Jan 02, 2015
agaugust:


All Nigerian armed forces are currently being rearmed and rebuilt, see the new Mi-35 upgrade photo posted today by Henry.

Watch out for Nigerian navy, we are coming slow and steady, that's how we work wonders !
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That doesn't change facts.

-No missiles.
-No surface capability.
-No sub-surface capability.
-No anti-submarine capability.
-No counter-mine capability
- Lack of sea SAR capability.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:01pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
You don't know.

SAAF has better capabilities. Tell us what does SAAF use for COMINT, ELINT, Radar location and more?

SAAF uses old airframes of 1980s vintage like Oryx, Cessna, Dakota grand-papa 1950s generation.

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF in ISTAR technology.

NAF Diamond is a year 2000s ultra-modern aircraft that you wish you had, but you do not tonguetonguetongue
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:02pm On Jan 02, 2015
Its official FIB will soon continue combat operations.

This round of fighting will be difficult, as it is more like COIN in thee jungle.

Any day or weeks from now SA, Malawi and Tanzanian forces will be in action.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:07pm On Jan 02, 2015
agaugust:


SAAF uses old airframes of 1980s vintage like Oryx, Cessna, Dakota grand-papa 1950s generation.

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF in ISTAR technology.

NAF Diamond is a year 2000s ultra-modern aircraft that you wish you had, but you do not tonguetonguetongue
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Here's your argument:

1. SAAF uses old platforms in the ISTAR, ELINT and COMINT roles.

Conclusion: SAAF is behind NAF.

Reality: You're wrong.

Well you're foo..led as you don't consider what's packed inside them. SA EW systems or equipment are acknowledged the world over.

They're not combat aircraft theirs is to fly.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:08pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Its official FIB will soon continue combat operations.

This round of fighting will be difficult, as it is more like COIN in thee jungle.

Any day or weeks from now SA, Malawi and Tanzanian forces will be in action.

....but you said last year that SAAF Rooivalk has eliminated the whole M23 Rebel force with a magic wand, so whom are you fighting again one year after? Congolese government or the UN is fighting itself? cheesycheesy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:10pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Here's your argument:

1. SAAF uses old platforms in the ISTAR, ELINT and COMINT roles.

Conclusion: SAAF is behind NAF.

Reality: You're wrong.

Well you're foo..led as you don't consider what's packed inside them. SA EW systems or equipment are acknowledged the world over.

They're not combat aircraft theirs is to fly.

Tales by moonlight. Private opinion
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 10:12pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
You don't know.

SAAF has better capabilities. Tell us what does SAAF use for COMINT, ELINT, Radar location and more?
South African witchcraft and voodoo. grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:21pm On Jan 02, 2015
Henry120:
Oh lawd

NAF's up-graded MI-35
sweet !
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:29pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Similar to the Algerian Super Hind.

Nigeria should retire these rubbish helos and get a real attack helicopters, Algeria will be replacing theirs with the MI-28.

Hater!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:35pm On Jan 02, 2015
agaugust:


....but you said last year that SAAF Rooivalk has eliminated the whole M23 Rebel force with a magic wand, so whom are you fighting again one year after? Congolese government or the UN is fighting itself? cheesycheesy
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M23 is eliminated. Some of them were repatriated back to the DRC from Uganda last month.

This is a different group the FDLR. These guys ran into the DRC after committing the genocide in Rwanda. They were defeated by RPF of Paul Kagame.

There are around 30 or more rebel groups in the DRC, thee FDLR were given a deadline to disarm which expired yesterday.

The dogs of war will be on top of them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:37pm On Jan 02, 2015
Henry120:


Hater!
That's the truth Algerian Super Hinds are going to be replaced by the MI-28.

The hinds are beaten in more areas like flight performance.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:38pm On Jan 02, 2015
charlos14:

South African witchcraft and voodoo. grin
Yes, your forefathers screamed witchcraft when they were reduced to piles of useless bodies by colonists with rifles.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:39pm On Jan 02, 2015
patches689:


Yeah, sure you did

You can clearly see the helicopter UAV's in this photo. 4 of them in all.

NN 38 meter MPV, Andoni II has also been launched.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:42pm On Jan 02, 2015
Who has the most advanced defence industry on the continent? grin grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 10:42pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Yes, your forefathers screamed witchcraft when they were reduced to piles of useless bodies by colonists with rifles.
You don't know my forefathers, so keep assuming and guessing. I bet your scientists are still guessing what to do with the prototype Badger sitting idle for over 10 years.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:49pm On Jan 02, 2015
charlos14:

You don't know my forefathers, so keep assuming and guessing. I bet your scientists are still guessing what to do with the prototype Badger sitting idle for over 10 years.
One day you'll come on your knees to the Saffers screaming and begging: "Oya dash us Badger IFV, BH dey capture Abuja" grin grin grin grin

The Badger is tested and its various systems and weapons are qualified ahead of production.

The delays can be blamed on the previous management of armscor and funding.

South Africa can crush all African countries, cause of our defence industry.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:39pm On Jan 02, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Who has the most advanced defence industry on the continent? grin grin grin grin grin grin


Egypt, they build jet fighter engines, jet fighter airframes, jet fighter avionics, composite armor tanks, and Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:01am On Jan 03, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:22am On Jan 03, 2015
dakingsman:
Just received pictures of wat look like 4.5 generation fighter jets. Hope I will be allowed to post soon. The helicopters I posted has been shared world wide without been credited to @Nigerian_military_history
That's a bit rude I believe

Please post the images. You have done us a great service.

I (we) apologise.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:35am On Jan 03, 2015
charlos14:


In Ukraine, Sniper shots would take out your glorious all seeing sensors and then capture the troops. The BTR 4 went into combat and came back to fight another day.... seem like all South African military vehicles are for one time use just like condoms. tongue grin

This is a good one.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:37am On Jan 03, 2015
dakingsman:
Nigerian army vickers[i][/i]

N.A vickers got a new paint job, not bad.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:38am On Jan 03, 2015
MikeCZAR:
At any given time 3 C-130s are available.


The Gripen is not an operational system. SAAF has more pilots.

Sharraap.

You only have 3 C-130's for an over 1.2km area. Shame!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:40am On Jan 03, 2015
charlos14:


Am I the only noticing that every 3 pages the number of Badgers increase?
Thank God you said test and evaluation.
Remember: SA deploys {single use} systems.
BTW :the Badger wouldn't need smoke grenades as the engine puff out smoke in usable quantities. (Just trying to save you some Rands)
You could use the Rands I just saved you to train one pilot.

*ROTFL* grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:13am On Jan 03, 2015
agaugust:


.....of 2 units factory prototypes. You admit SANDF armoury has ZERO Badger IFV in service. Thanks bro...I like the way you surrender in style!
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what is wrong with you?

The citation says 5

I literally posted it

Yet you keep saying two?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:16am On Jan 03, 2015
agaugust:


America has current amphibious IFV in service, and they are fast developing more with very advanced tech to match Russian amphibious IFV. Stop comparing America and South Africa, they are far far very very far above your low class.

What Badger armour? It has protection only against small arms fire, RPG will tear Badger IFV into pieces when your dream probably comes through and you buy it in year 2020.

By that year the Badger design is already outdated....15 years long waiting period will kill it's technical relevance in 2020 grin grin

SANDF is cash broke !!!!
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You mean the LAV? Because that is their only amphibious vehical, and it is being phased out in favor of the non amphibious stryker

Us is not developing anything amphibious - amphibious IFVs are a relic of cold war doctrine because they sacrifice too much armor and are sitting ducks

The only modern armoured vehicals that need amphibious capabilities are Recon

Brand new Badgers begin production THIS YEAR with 2015 equipment and technology - compared to your obsolete BTR-4 which is nothing more than a BTR-3 with a new engine.

You say the BTR is more advanced - show us how. Give us specifications.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:17am On Jan 03, 2015
charlos14:



Fixed periscope implies stationary, it doesn't rotate.
Would it be operated manually as they might not be enough space for the operator to move about therefore rendering your 360 degree situational awareness useless unless some old chap is cranking trying to find the target.

Badger has no backup systems until further prove is shown.

Yes, back up systems will not be as good as primary systems or else the two systems make each other redundant

Your BTR has no 360 degree scope in the first place.

Hence the badger is superior.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:19am On Jan 03, 2015
charlos14:


In Ukraine, Sniper shots would take out your glorious all seeing sensors and then capture the troops. The BTR 4 went into combat and came back to fight another day.... seem like all South African military vehicles are for one time use just like condoms. tongue grin

Yes sure, whatever you say.

Fact is that after the sniper shot the Badger has the same situational awareness as the BTR

While it has superior armor

Not sure what you think you are proving here

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