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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by great664(m): 8:07am On Jan 03, 2015
Raxnegro Zaedd and all APC and Buhari supporters, this one nor suppose delay or involve the military in the first place, if he has it then produce it or just admit you don't have it, Let's say its true he submitted the original to the military, why submit original cert. to ur employer, Is that not foolishness and highest CLUELESSNESS, so if they sack you how will you search for other job(s)? Or una wen dey blame the Military, I hope na una employer hold una Original Cert? In Politics you can devise any means to make your opponents lose, Buhari and co should stop whining and seeking public pity and produce the certificate no matter what means they use in getting it, and find a way to disqualify Jonathan too, that's Politics, so APC don't cry, play politics or park well

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Bayswater: 8:08am On Jan 03, 2015
bnovative:

Quota system.
The same reason a child from the south who scored 130 and was denied entry into unity school whereas a child from the north scored 3 and was admitted.

He is one of the few senior military
officers in the history of the Nigeria to
fail the Command and Staff College
exams as well as the senior military
examinations. While his senior military
colleagues, such as Ibrahim Babangida,
Tunde Idiagbon, Theophilus Danjuma,
Augustus Aikhomu and Abdulsalami
Abubakar have military suffixes after
their names, such as FSS; Psc; or MNI;
Buhari has none.

Is this true? I need you to she'd more light on it.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by jmaine: 8:08am On Jan 03, 2015
arsetalks:
Beautiful analysis that begs the following questions :

1. Why didn't PDP object in the 3 previous elections he has contested?

2. Does the army have a spokesperson or not? If they do, what has stopped them from releasing an official statement?

Waiting for your answers.


Because he contested thrice without issues (intentional or not) doesn't mean due process should be jettisoned this time

Which employer holds on to the original cert of his employees ?

Ayam waiting

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Jwonder(m): 8:08am On Jan 03, 2015
proffemi:
I personally don't care about whether Buhari has certificates or not but the law is the law.

What PDP should realize however is: it says a lot about how much Dr J has disappointed us that we would take a closer look at a man (GMB) we have rejected three times. At this point, it's safe to say that many people want ABJ (Anyone But Jonathan).

Personally, I have misgivings about GMB, but the much I can say for him is: he is a honest man, and has the strength of character to project himself on the polity/nation. When you combine that with the willingness to appoint smarter heads than his, and allow those heads perform (see Idiagbon, T) you have the makings of a good president.

Dr J on the other hand, I have no way of knowing how corrupt he -personally- is, but the man is weak, doesn't appear particularly smart, and lacks charisma. Other than IBB, he is the head of state under whom corruption has had the freest stroll through the corridors of power. It doesn't matter how fast you pour water into a bottomless pit; it never gets filled. The corruption and impunity in Dr J's government has knocked the bottoms off, and render everything else moot. We are tired of this crap. I am tired of this crap.

PDF should be careful. Some of us fear that people want Dr J gone so much that if you take away credible alternatives, they would *still* reject him...God help us.

Have u finished?


















Abeg show us his certificate and end this whole issue.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by obaayo2: 8:09am On Jan 03, 2015
it Is normal for the military to collect all it certificates.....but dey do return them after some time.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by arsetalks(m): 8:10am On Jan 03, 2015
jmaine:


Because he contested thrice without issues (intentional or not) doesn't mean due process should be jettisoned this time

Which employer holds unto the original cert of his employees ?

Ayam waiting
Right. Why has the army failed to debunk Buhari's claim? Or they have been muted?

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by nigerianvenom(m): 8:10am On Jan 03, 2015
ola6:


Ore mi. I was banned. Now, Im back in action. Awon APC omo ales ma gba!!! cry

Abeg check dis;
https://www.nairaland.com/2073363/aware-buhari-divorced-first-wife#29442117
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by gurunlocker: 8:11am On Jan 03, 2015
victree007:


I doubt the legitimacy of this post. It contains so many errors. Nice try but this post doesn't hold water. Try something else to tarnish GMB's image. GMB smart man, giving opposition a lot of work to. This so called army just dey mention original certificate where as GMB no even talk whether na photocopy or original he give Military Board

why will he have to say initially that all his documents are with that army?.,... the army may have the photocopies, fine.... the Pa buhari should have the original with him and no reason to swear affidavit .... dunno maybe u get me.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by datribune: 8:12am On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
Guys read section 131(1)d of the constitution. It states that "a person shall be qualified for election to the office of the president if... He has been educated up to at least school certificate level or its equivalent"
Its no longer a bedroom affair,because GMB must fulfil this criteria.
Patiently waiting...

Hehehehehe KEEP DREAMING. PDP is digging its grave more & more by planting fake news in d press. If its not frm d army but a SOURCE it's just someone's imaginations - QED.
Enjoy ur sycophancy while it lasts 4 d clueless one is on d homestrech of his inept presidency. SAI BUHARI
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by proffemi: 8:13am On Jan 03, 2015
Jwonder:
Abeg show us his certificate and end this whole issue.
Don't you understand? This is not about GMB.
I stood in the sun for hours last time to vote for GEJ against this same GMB. I don't even think I like GMB as a person. However, I am convinced he will make a better president than GEJ.

If GMB does not provide his certificate, that's his problem. All I know is, we deserve better than GEJ, and we will get it.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by jmaine: 8:14am On Jan 03, 2015
arsetalks:
Right. Why has the army failed to debunk Buhari's claim? Or they have been muted?

The Army may be reluctant to voice out against the alleged lies of their former boss in other not too aggravate the whole mess thereby denting her image.

Reasons are not far fetched.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by arsetalks(m): 8:14am On Jan 03, 2015
Jwonder:


Have u finished?


Abeg show us his certificate and end this whole issue.
shamefully you could not defend what he said. You embarrassed yourself. Would have been better not to have quoted him.

He didn't contest with certificate in previous elections? If he lied under an oat, that's a crime, how come has he not been arrested or is he above the law?

Tell us another lie, this one won't fly.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by gurunlocker: 8:15am On Jan 03, 2015
iykeaniogbe:
if he didn't scale through his courses,hw was he promoted to d rank of a Brigadier General?

my brother no one say he didn't scale through course, make he just bring original copy and stop lying..... u go school Shey, when u wan do admission Na ur original certificate ur school collect? ...surely it will be with u

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Sermwell(m): 8:16am On Jan 03, 2015
Jenams:
okpia! How fa? Where u com dey? Longest time! Hapi new year
Brov I dey well o! Na u vanish leave us na! I don't get 2 see u in skool anymore. Are u done with your masters degree?? I saw some of ur coursemates lastweek or so. Cheers!
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by arsetalks(m): 8:16am On Jan 03, 2015
jmaine:


The Army may be reluctant to voice out against the alleged lies of their former boss in other not too aggravate the whole mess thereby denting her image.

Reasons are not far fetched.
Wow. Right. You know this how? Can you be logical for once? By he claiming the army his with his certificate, he is actually denting the army's image if it was a lie thats.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by datribune: 8:19am On Jan 03, 2015
gurunlocker:


why will he have to say initially that all his documents are with that army?.,... the army may have the photocopies, fine.... the Pa buhari should have the original with him and no reason to swear affidavit .... dunno maybe u get me.

d Stealing Is Not Corruption camp is desperate. Planting speculative write-ups will not sway any voter. Let d army say they don't hav it. Until then d SOURCE is just a brown-envelop-collecting journalist.
We will giv d General a historic mandate to clear d mess of d 15+ yrs of PDP misrule. SAI BUHARI
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by proffemi: 8:19am On Jan 03, 2015
chikis:
I have been watching all the political intrigues going on in Nairaland without commenting. I think I have to start commenting now....

Why? Both candidates are not good? But as they say "half bread is better than none." "A bird in hand is better than two in a tree." "The devil you know is better than the angel you never know". I think Good Ebele is a bit better than Buhari.

Even if I decide not to vote any of the candidates during the election, I know and believe firmly that Jonathan will come out victorious. Why? Because I have spoken the minds of (70 or 60)% Nigerians who may not be verbalistic now but will show their intention based on how they will vote during the election. Thank you.

Welcome my brother. Just like you, I used to avoid commenting on politics, but its our country too, dammit!

Saying you have spoken the minds of 60% to 70%: don't you think that is a function of your sample size, spread, and demographic?

Why don't you let's do it this way: could you try to list the few most important qualities or attributes that you believe a Nigerian president should have? Perhaps if we can agree on such a list, we would be better placed to identify which candidate is the best of a bad lot.

For me: a Nigerian president:

1. Doesn't need to be the smartest , but he MUST be a good judge of character
2. Must above all else, have strength of character (and by extension, must be able to lead)
3. Must be honest
4. Must be able to select an excellent team, but be ready to project his beliefs to "keep them honest"

I'm sure I've left out a few things, but some omissions are deliberate.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by gurunlocker: 8:21am On Jan 03, 2015
datribune:


d Stealing Is Not Corruption camp is desperate. Planting speculative write-ups will not sway any voter. Let d army say they don't hav it. Until then d SOURCE is just a brown-envelop-collecting journalist.
We will giv d General a historic mandate to clear d mess of d 15+ yrs of PDP misrule. SAI BUHARI

good luck....
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Jwonder(m): 8:22am On Jan 03, 2015
datribune:


Hehehehehe KEEP DREAMING. PDP is digging its grave more & more by planting fake news in d press. If its not frm d army but a SOURCE it's just someone's imaginations - QED.
Enjoy ur sycophancy while it lasts 4 d clueless one is on d homestrech of his inept presidency. SAI BUHARI

Lolzz!! The only CLUELESS person here is d man who gave his original certificate to his employers.











GEJ 2015 till buhari goes back to school

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by hansad: 8:22am On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
Guys read section 131(1)d of the constitution. It states that "a person shall be qualified for election to the office of the president if... He has been educated up to at least school certificate level or its equivalent"
Its no longer a bedroom affair,because GMB must fulfil this criteria.
Patiently waiting...
Some untruthful Buharists will say, afterall, Buhari studied in the UK and USA. but they fail to understand that those were military studies, never formal educatiom. Govt can send a school drop out to UK or US training centre to go to learn a trade, including training to be a soldier, when the person passes the training, the certificates issued can never substitute formal primary or secondary education certificate. The certificates Buhari acquired from thse military training courses can only be kept by the Nigerian Army which sent him to the training, the certificates are property of Nigeria Army, never to be kept by Buhari. What Nigeria's constitution and INEC required from Buhari were his Primary and Secondary School Leaving Certificates, and possibly, higher education certificates, not certificates from military training.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by jmaine: 8:23am On Jan 03, 2015
arsetalks:
Wow. Right. You know this how? Can you be logical for once? By he claiming the army his with his certificate, he is actually denting the army's image if it was a lie thats.

You are not thinking smart, If Buhari fails to produce his cert , there will be a huge question mark on the standards of the Nigerian Army that an alleged semi illiterate could rise to the status of a general without recourse to proven intellect.

They might also not want to be dragged into the murky waters of 2015 politicking.

How can anyone remotely believe than an employer will be in possession of an employee original cert. Are we all that silly ?

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by robinsoncrosoe: 8:24am On Jan 03, 2015
Fourwinds:
dis my question. dis is not d first time Buhari is contesting so who is playing games here. when my friends house was razed by fire. it was d foto copy of his certificate he submitted at his place of work he used as a proof to obtain affidavit before going to his former school to complain. so if Buhari was in d army den d army should be able to produce whatever certificate(foto copies) he had submitted to dem. so y d hullabalu here
u must be a fool.u want the military to be b.o.koharis errand boys.so make them carry photocopy de go INEC.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by jahbiz: 8:25am On Jan 03, 2015
abu12:
Let nigeria army denied it, not our source or what ever you call it. The nigeria army have PRO, they have head of pension, they have nigeria army record, let them verify and tell us. Not all this our source, our this. Buhari is just giving his opponent assignment and things to worry about and they are carrying it out
Don't mind the ignorant haters. In K West voice**** ''the thing they wan to use to kill me, can only make me stronger'' They are jus helping this man become more popular. And I wonder the rate at which some spit out nonsense without making use of their common sense http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammadu_Buhari. Many people have made google their enemy instead of friend and they keep living in ignorance.
Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Jwonder(m): 8:25am On Jan 03, 2015
proffemi:

Don't you understand? This is not about GMB.
I stood in the sun for hours last time to vote for GEJ against this same GMB. I don't even think I like GMB as a person. However, I am convinced he will make a better president than GEJ.

If GMB does not provide his certificate, that's his problem. All I know is, we deserve better than GEJ, and we will get it.

Yes i agree we deserve better than GEJ but it can never be GMB, NEVER! ..gimme someone else and i will jump out of GEJ's boat but for now














GEJ 2015 till buhari realizes he is about to fail again.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Vikky014(f): 8:26am On Jan 03, 2015
Miscellaneous:


eversince u av been shouting: "corruption, corruption, corruption" & now change has come to start dealing with corruption & u are asking: "why now?" In all honesty, does it make sense? I'm tired of this country…… the masses are allergic to positive change…… sh1t
dnt mind him. he dnt know the meaning of change

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by kennytidistar(m): 8:26am On Jan 03, 2015
arsetalks:
Beautiful analysis that begs the following questions :

1. Why didn't PDP object in the 3 previous elections he has contested?

2. Does the army have a spokesperson or not? If they do, what has stopped them from releasing an official statement?

Waiting for your answers.


The irony of the whole scenerio is, during those period, majority of the soldiers recruited around 60's and 70's do not have certificates most expecially the northerners, they came in through voluntery services and climb through the rank by attending courses and training, therefore i will not be supprise if buary didn't have an Academic certificate, even if he doesn't have GCE atleast he must be affiliated to a particular school, let him write to his school, and let his school write to inec officially, logically, he shouldn't have involve the Nigerian Army, because the army did not send him on an errand, if you don't have your certificate, just write to your school and let your school release your transcript to your employer not disturbing your former employer over your predicament, assuming your prospective employer requested for confirmation/recommendation letter of former appointment, you can then refer to your former employer. thanks.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Sermwell(m): 8:27am On Jan 03, 2015
proffemi:
I personally don't care about whether Buhari has certificates or not but the law is the law.

What PDP should realize however is: it says a lot about how much Dr J has disappointed us that we would take a closer look at a man (GMB) we have rejected three times. At this point, it's safe to say that many people want ABJ (Anyone But Jonathan).

Personally, I have misgivings about GMB, but the much I can say for him is: he is a honest man, and has the strength of character to project himself on the polity/nation. When you combine that with the willingness to appoint smarter heads than his, and allow those heads perform (see Idiagbon, T) you have the makings of a good president.

Dr J on the other hand, I have no way of knowing how corrupt he -personally- is, but the man is weak, doesn't appear particularly smart, and lacks charisma. Other than IBB, he is the head of state under whom corruption has had the freest stroll through the corridors of power. It doesn't matter how fast you pour water into a bottomless pit; it never gets filled. The corruption and impunity in Dr J's government has knocked the bottoms off, and render everything else moot. We are tired of this crap. I am tired of this crap.

PDF should be careful. Some of us fear that people want Dr J gone so much that if you take away credible alternatives, they would *still* reject him...God help us.
Will you stop being dumb? Did You just call buhari an honest man? So what do you call a man who lied that he has certificate when he actually has none?...well, I don't see buhari being able to present school certs because NEMO DAT QUOD NON HABET!!

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Montaque(m): 8:29am On Jan 03, 2015
datribune:


Hehehehehe KEEP DREAMING. PDP is digging its grave more & more by planting fake news in d press. If its not frm d army but a SOURCE it's just someone's imaginations - QED.
Enjoy ur sycophancy while it lasts 4 d clueless one is on d homestrech of his inept presidency. SAI BUHARI
I had a standard education that a contemporary Nigerian youth can attain. Me,you and many others must stand up for what is proper and civilized irrespective of APC/PDP fued. The laws of the land is obvious on this matter,if you feel it doesn't matter,then I can tell u that you are not civilized. No offence please.
Insist on the right thing for posterity's sake.
FYI, I don't support GEJ due to his style of Governance.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by Jwonder(m): 8:29am On Jan 03, 2015
arsetalks:
shamefully you could not defend what he said. You embarrassed yourself. Would have been better not to have quoted him.

He didn't contest with certificate in previous elections? If he lied under an oat, that's a crime, how come has he not been arrested or is he above the law?

Tell us another lie, this one won't fly.



Have you ever heard dis saying "Everyday for the thief one day for the owner". If he has always contested with it, why don't he just bring it out and save himself from all this embarrassment.






Issoriat









Still on the matter













GEJ 2015 till APC realize their boat is sinking.

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by XRAY21(m): 8:34am On Jan 03, 2015
abu12:
Let nigeria army denied it, not our source or what ever you call it. The nigeria army have PRO, they have head of pension, they have nigeria army record, let them verify and tell us. Not all this our source, our this. Buhari is just giving his opponent assignment and things to worry about and they are carrying it out

Why would you see truth and turn away na have you ever heard army keeps original result what a lie no organization keeps original result

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by victree007(m): 8:34am On Jan 03, 2015
gurunlocker:


why will he have to say initially that all his documents are with that army?.,... the army may have the photocopies, fine.... the Pa buhari should have the original with him and no reason to swear affidavit .... dunno maybe u get me.

Yeah I get u bro. These people have so many questions to answer u know. Always politicizing everything. Am sure if stealing was corruption things would have been better lol

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Re: We Are Not With Buhari’s Original Copies Of Certificates — Army by arsetalks(m): 8:35am On Jan 03, 2015
jmaine:


You are not thinking smart, If Buhari fails to produce his cert , there will be a huge question mark on the standards of the Nigerian Army that an alleged semi illiterate could rise to the status of a general without recourse to proven intellect.

They might also not want to be dragged into the murky waters of 2015 politicking.

How can anyone remotely believe than an employer will be in possession of an employee original cert. Are we all that silly ?
to the contrary, exposing him will be an opportunity to send a message that if corruption was hitherto allowed in the army, it is no longer allowed.

And the army is above the laws of the land? Na, if Buhari lied ( off which I am sure you know he did not), he has committed a crime punishable by law and should be punished but off course you know he didn't lie hence no punishment.

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