Either BSC or HND, it all depend on an individual as both qualifications is not a guaranty of success or a good life. I'm a living witness, i possed HND in Electrical Engineering and some professional certificate in electrical. Coupled with few years of experience and hardworking, i was able to secure a job as Electrical Engineer supervising a least eight technicians (4 bsc inclusive). They are yet to match up with me in terms of confidence and composure when it come to advance troubleshooting in automation system. Therefore, in all you do it is very important to get knowledge and skills beçause it is what will distinguish you among multitude not only BSC or HND.

Nice write up

DrFunmi:



Bros, you are wicked

na advice i giv am ooo

McLove:
Osun And Ekiti states governors are Polytechnic graduates.

Certificate Matters Less My Brother.

Hit Like if you belive this marginalization is uncalled for

don't forget ibikunle amosun of ogun state.

rahazaqa:
choose poly.

what are/is ur reasons sir?

www.vanguardngr.com/2013/04/the-university-degree-not-superior-to-hnd-onukaogu/

Kindly expects a counter thread anytime from now

greatestman:


College of Education is by far better than Polytechnic.

When d jamb cut off for polys and colleges are 160 and 150 respectively? Think nw my guy. A COE is no better than a unity sch.

i think this op is getting it wrong. HND holders are more preferred by companies than Bsc holders because of the training and praticals they do.Lectures in polytechniques are more hardworking. The only point you have is self esteem which is not necessary

DrFunmi:
Success in life should not be determined by our alma mater. I believe that everybody has a chance to be successful whether they went to a university or polytechnic. Our success is in our hands. This write-up is not meant to degrade HND holders. I am one of those that are strongly against the discrimination against HND holders. However, the reality on ground (due to the discrimination) is that BSc is still more superior to HND and I have given reasons below to state the obvious but bitter truth.

1 Entrance Qualification - The entrance qualification to the university is more stringent than that to the polytechnic. The UTME cut off for universities is higher than that of polytechnics. All universities require a minimum of 5 credits in WASSCE/NECO while most polytechnics accept 4 credits as minimum requirement. It is well accepted that the entrance qualification to any institution says a lot about the prestige attached to such institution.

2 Quality of Lecturers- You cannot compare the quality of lecturers in the university to that of the polytechnic. Most university lecturers are professors and PhD holders with decades of teaching and research experience to show for it. Some of them are universally renowned professors. The head of universities are always renowned and experienced academic professors. Most Master degree holders in universities are mere assistant lecturers. The same cannot be said of polytechnics where most of their 'experienced' lecturers are mere BSc holders. Most rectors of polytechnics are Msc holders, only a few have PhD. Even corps members lecture polytechnic students. Has it ever occurred to you why polytechnics find it hard to employ even their own products (HND holders) to lecture? Instead, they employ mostly university grads to teach.

3 Research Work- University is the bedrock of research work. Research work lays the foundation of advancement and any sane society will rate any higher institution by the quality of their research. Unfortunately, the quality of research work in Nigerian universities is poor but this is still far better than that of polytechnics that do absolutely nothing (or very negligible research work).

4 Funding- Universities are much more funded than polytechnics. One of the metrics for determining the quality of an institution is the level of funding. No wonder, the government and the media pay more attention to the demand of ASUU over ASUP. Thus, you will expect a product of a university to be better trained than that of a polytechnic.

5 Quality of students - The brightest, youngest and most motivated students go to the universities. Go to a polytechnic and what you will see a lot of dejected, not-so-young students who have written UTME many times but have not succeeded. A few in the polytechnics are young and bright, but they are few and far between. The majority of young and bright students, just fresh from secondary school are found within the 4 walls of the university. Thus, most university grads are of higher intellectual quality than their poly counterparts.

6 Size and Beauty of Campus - A lot can be said about the quality of an institution by the architectural structures of the institutions. Let's take the elite universities and polytechnics in Nigeria for instance. One cannot compare the architectural edifices in the prestigious OAU, UI, ABU, UNN, UNILAG, UNIBEN to that of Yabatech, Kadpoly, Auchi, Bida Poly or any polytechnic in Nigeria. No polytechnic in Nigeria can even compete with some 2nd and 3rd generation universities like FUT Minna, UniJos, FUTA, etc in terms of structures.

7 Preference / Demand - The preference for BSc is higher than for OND/HND. All or almost all aspiring students wish to go to the university. Employers generally prefer BSc holders over HND holders. HND holders are seen as middle level manpower (That was the intent when polytechnics were initially created). There are more opportunities for BSc holders not just within the country but outside Nigeria. Jobs and scholarship opportunities abound for BSc holders and undergraduates while it is almost non-existent for HND holders.

8 Self Esteem - Last but not the least, an average BSc holder is more confident than an average HND holder. This is however not the fault of HND holders who unfortunately have to face stiff discrimination in the labour market, thus negatively impacting on their self esteem.

Bt OP ur comparisons here is more of Bsc/Nd nt Hnd, a Corp member can't lecture @ Hnd level, a Bsc holder can't lecture @ Hnd level even @ d Nd he/she most have experience nt jst a fresh graduate! Infact do u really know d difference b/w HND and ND? Pls mak sure u can efficiently put d 2 (HND n ND) asunder b4 ur comparisons! Tnx....

T4taiwo:
don't forget ibikunle amosun of ogun state.

WOW! I dont even know the guy is a Polytechnic Graduate. So why the noise?

@ op . . .u can add 2 more reasons to make it 10 if u like . ..but that has nothing to do with how successful the BSc holder becomes over the HND holder. If u don't know what to do with ur BSc Cert . . .u are no better than a School Cert holder . . .yes I hold the HND Cert but I can tell u how many BSc holders I have directly assisted and are now employed and I have a long list of others who still run to me for job placement . . .whatever certificate u possess . . .just be a little more creative and u will stand out, I know a couple of people who never saw the four walls of a University or Polytechnic and they are CEOs of known companies today here in Nigeria. . .needless to add the cars I drive and ongoing building project here in Lagos . . .all thanks to my HND! Bottom line . . .forget BSc/HND . . .be creative and put God first

DrFunmi:

This is not true.
With the level of decadence in the educational system, polytechnic students hardly do quality practical work due to the state of the lab facilities and equipment. At the end of the day, most poly students still end up doing more theory than practical. The only difference is that uni grads do more theory than they do.
Besides, what differentiates a manager of a bank and an artisan on the street? Their ability to use their brains, not their muscles! Why do you think that the companies pay employees who sit in offices big salaries wile paying peanuts to the staffs actually doing the strenuous work? Cos, brains and intellects cost more than muscle work!

That is the mis-placed priority I'm talking about. A BSc holder can't sit in the office and design a programme from the figment of his imagination and ask an HND holder to go carry out the instructions to the teeth..

Let me give u an instance..

The BSc holders are the Soldiers in the Army Headquarters and say the HND holders are the Soldiers in Sambisa Forest.

Tell me, how can a soldier in Army headquaters that has never been to war front design a programme on how u should engage the boko haram.. If u ask me, its should be the other way round..

U can't sit in the office and tell me what to do on the field.

U can't dish orders from office and ask me to go engage boko boys the way u perceive it from your office, perception is different from reality.

So also theory is different from practical.

This is it. A soldier sits somewhere corners all the funds ment for people on the field, doesn't know the terrain and gives orders,

How would u order me to go where u've never been?

Some soldiers on the field complain that their superiors give them wrong co-ordinates and low grade weapons and lower ammunitions to face a well equipped boko haram..

Tell me how u sit in the office, u are not exposed to danger, and u ask me to expose myself to danger, giving me low equipment, and all dat and still expect me to perform.

This is what I'm saying. BSc is all talk, HND is practical..

That is why u have court marshals sentencing soldiers to death for mutiny..

I can't take orders from u sitting in one office and short-changing me and still ask me to go kill myself. Hell no.

I feel for those soldiers men!

Its a case of being wrong and benefitting from being wrong.

Those superior officers are wrong and they are benefitting from being wrong.

Back to the HND and BSc thing.

HND is practical and BSc is theory.

U can't sit in an office with theory and expect me to practicalise ur theory on field when u aren't even on field with me.


I heard some soldiers say they were given wrong cordinates and in following this wrong cordinates, they were ambushed and in a unit of 6, 5 were killed.

Tell me how I'm to follow orders the next time such theoretical order come.

Orders shouldn't be theory, orders should be practical..

Do as I do, not do as I say..

Usually dis foolishness

Nawa for pple ooo. The problem with nigerians is that they fail to accept the truth. Apart from engineering students that go to poly for practical sake, most students dreams are to be admitted into a university. Am not in any way saying poly is not good, but they can't be compared.

pureguide:
@OP na gosip u just want gosip. Bsc or no Bsc. With my Hnd. Students from uni still come to learn from me. And am proudly building my first house at the age of 24. Dey there dey carry bsc fey waka up and down. No mata how high ur Bsc is. U can never be more successful than ur destiny.

wetin bring house enta d matter?

Abi u tink say pple u senior neva build house finish.....
#Yeye show off#..

Really I don't see any reason for this post. This is bullsh*t. In this century it doesn't matter what you read or where you schooled. All that matters is self-determination and the zeal to succeed in life. Ama futo B.tech student tho

PAnaceA7:

You don't have to flair up over what Op said, it's d bitter truth..Most Hnd holders still go ahead to d University cus they know it's importance. Now look closer and point out which one out of the eight is false rather than taking it personal.

The main reason why i had to cross to the uni is simply becos of the disparity, just like the O.P has done. Knowledge is power, whether aquired in a uni or poly or sec sch. I later found out many students in the uni have empty skull, some robbed d so called poly students of admission 2ru connections and other means.

All in all, it's cool being on d recognised side.

haitto99:
front page...hmmmm. although I hv a b.tech degree in engineering,but to be sincere HND graduates are more practical oriented than b.sc holders,talking from the engineering point of view

Ologbeni henry.... Whats up with you now...I hope you know who this is..how are you doing?!!!

tosyne2much:
So what are you insinuating ?

Insinuating noffin

No knowledge is wasted I did my Nd @ bida poly and currently in my final year @ the university actually I am reaping the benefit of both because its expand me as a person . Note it is ND not OND no cerfiticate is ordinary .the only problem with poly is that one year IT before appling back as a new student for HND.

DrFunmi:

Sister, I'm not a hypocrite. I actually wish both HND and BSc holders well. I have siblings that are HND holders too. I just needed to state the very obvious fact cos there is no need for comparison.
Many polytechnics accept 4 credits. I can mention at least 3 as I write.

. what do you understand by discrimination?

Franchise21:
Insinuating noffin

God dey sha even though I knew u were trying to mock me

haitto99:
front page...hmmmm. although I hv a b.tech degree in engineering,but to be sincere HND graduates are more practical oriented than b.sc holders,talking from the engineering point of view

simply means you don't know your engineering Bro.

A good engineer who know what he studied in the university is always practical. period.

Obadiah77:


ask google, edioti

TFU and ur ancestors

greatestman:


College of Education is by far better than Polytechnic.

why?? If i may ask..

dorlapoh20:
i think this op is getting it wrong. HND holders are more preferred by companies than Bsc holders because of the training and praticals they do.Lectures in polytechniques are more hardworking. The only point you have is self esteem which is not necessary

That's my lady

** Gives her a kiss on the lips **

tosyne2much:
God dey sha even though I knew u were trying to mock me

Hey boss, y wud I mock u? U na my e-guy na... Was just tryna joke a lil

Fadelex:

they should quickly do that. most of them behaves like a ruthless dictator. they do things to show they are untouchable. people book space everywhere, in church, lectureroom, bank, concert and so on. y should it become a crime to do that on nairaland.

badt guy, i dey feel u. Some mods smoke weeds.

Deapexboy:


wetin bring house enta d matter?

Abi u tink say pple u senior neva build house finish.....
#Yeye show off#..

BSC candidate! Am sure your older than me.

tosyne2much:
That's my lady

** Gives her a kiss on the lips **

I dnt knw where u guys get ur stories frm!
1.it is totally untrue that all poly student culdnt make the required jamb cut off mark,5 credit pass e.t.c
we all know this is a country where admission is very difficult to hv. u are left behind if u dnt have connection.imagin the number of student that write jamb yearly.its also a fact that univ cnt accomondate all the student that applied.
2.its also nt true that poly student are dull.most of them are there because of certain circumstances.
3.there are certain lecturers that are very gud at wat they do.to hv a phd isnt a guarantee that you are the best intellectually.
4.it is nt true that poly student hv low esteem.i dnt knw how u arrived at such baseless conclusion.
5.we have seen many cases of bsc student working under hnd student.like trully is an irony.
6.any position u are occupying today u hv to always remember that u are there by grace,there are many people who are far better than u bt they never had the kind of opportunity that u had.
So my advice to anyone reading this is that u shld be the best that you cn be.Dnt despise your little begining

richardjemedafe1:
Hello my fellow Nairalanders,
My name is Richard jemedafe from Plateau State
(Nigeria) I have a problem that is given me Sleepless
night.But I know that Nairaland is the best place to
get advice.
I wrote jamb this year and my jamb point was
179(which can't take me to University of my choice)
so I Applied for Pla poly (state polytechnic) To study
Business Administration and management. (I got
admission)
And I also got admission Into Federal COllege Of
Education Pankshin to study. English/SOS. (which I
also got Admission)

Nairalanders I need ur advice which should I go
to??College of Education And polytechnic which
is better,best and preferable??
Thenks

Write jamb again. This time choose to study Sociology/Social Work which is better than all those courses since you seem to be an Art student else I'll say go for a science course. But while waiting, volunteer your time in any big organization (NGO) around. It'll pay you off on the long run. Don't just plan to study anything. You may be wasting your time.