GreenandGold:


Compared to Nigeria's 130 million Nigerians who have never seen a light bulb being lit.

GreenandGold:


READ - It clearly states it can withstand 8kg of TNT, meanwhile the BRT-4 is a death trap.

agaugust:
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Who cares, we have 11 NAF F-7 jet fighters, we need only 1 sink your Stealth frigate.

F-7 jet speed is as fast as Umkhonto missile, so we can waste all your anti-aircraft missiles, and rocket the SAN frigate after that. Simple
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GreenandGold:



Denel NTW-20 can kill all crew and soldiers inside your Cold-War style BTR-4

patches689:


And yet, despite your petulant tantrum, production of the first batch of 236 starts this year.

Unlike Nigerias pathetic purchase of a paltry 5 units, we are placing a substantial order

Unlike Nigeria's off the shelf purchase of a vehical designed to operate in Europe, we have spent time and money adapting it to our conditions

Unlike Nigeria's off the shelf purchase, we will be making 70% of the vehical with south african technology, skills and equipment - a true marvel of African Engineering.

Patria is the master of African IFV's

agaugust:


That is NOT body armour dude, that is chassis under belly against land mines which MRAPS are supposed to do, NOT IFV.

BTR-4 has ground clearance to reduce IED threat. How many IEDs will you meet in a modern day war when land mines have been largely banned? Only insurgents use them, and BTR-4 has protection from basic IED.

You don't need land mine to kill Badger IFV, just Boko Haram 12.7mm machine guns will cut into the Badger like my finger pierces butter

All your 10 soldiers will d.ie inside the Badger when Bokos open fire with browning machine guns

.

patches689:


You are making allot of assertions and providing very little proof to substantiate your claims.

agaugust:


Your own photos clearly proved him right, Badger IFV design is bad, the 360 degree eye is full exposed to snipers who will blast it off.

Badger goes blind like a street beggar and IFV gets killed plus the 10 soldiers inside
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Centrifude:


Modernised in South Africa by a South African Firm, I knew a Country like Nigeria wouldn't be able to resist this kind of awesome upgrade

All bullsh!t aside think N.A.F made a great choice with this one, I can't wait to hear about how they perform in combat.

GreenandGold:
In the meantime, Nigeria (a nation of barbers) begged South Africa to modernize her aged and useless Hinds.

Now thank to South Africa, Nigerians have a chance of flying a machine with 21st century avionics.

Thank you South Africa

GreenandGold:
In the meantime, Nigeria (a nation of barbers) begged South Africa to modernize her aged and useless Hinds.

Now thank to South Africa, Nigerians have a chance of flying a machine with 21st century avionics.

Thank you South Africa

agaugust:


Show proof from South Africa of NAF to prove your above claims....We don't entertain guess work or hear say !
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patches689:


[citation needed]

xwolverine:



Was it done for free? NO
Can SANDF afford a similar upgrade? NO

If Nigeria with approximately 22 Mi-35P (Plus 40 more ordered), upgrades its fleet because it can, how does it change the fact that SANDF is broke and can't afford the same, coupled with the fact that the Rooivalk project is stalled.

So whats your point exactly?

agaugust:


No need of citation, published aircraft inventory list of SAAF officially shows NO purchased of any ISTAR aircraft in the last 20 years

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF in ISTAR capabilities
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agaugust:


No need of citation, published aircraft inventory list of SAAF officially shows NO purchased of any ISTAR aircraft in the last 20 years

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF in ISTAR capabilities
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GreenandGold:


buhahahahaha... Evidence from your one-and-only blog

buhahahaha

https://beegeagle./2015/01/02/freshly-delivered-mi-35p-attack-helicopters-of-the-nigerian-air-force-reportedly-modernised-by-a-south-african-firm/

patches689:


SANDF doesnt need to be rebuilt

We have been top dogs since independence

GreenandGold:


- First, we don't need an upgrade because we don't use useless Hinds

- Second, how is the Rooivalk stalled? Its oparational and killing rebels in the DRC.

- Third, the SANDF has a higher budget than your armed forces.

xwolverine:


First. You don't use it because you are stuck with Rooivalk

Second. Picture this:

11 Rooivalk vs 22 Hinds.

The hinds would be using your pilots as target practice, meanwhile no Grippen pilots to help out. The available pilots have no experience of real wars.

Third. Higher budget doesn't mean better capability, $40million for Rooivalk? Are your frigging kidding me!!!
When I can get:
- A faster Hind for $12 million
- A JF-17 Thunder $20 million
and still have $8 million for armaments.

Please don't make me laugh.

agaugust:


Badger camera is exposed fully to snipers, BTR-4 camera is securely located under other steel frames.

Badger design is obsolete since 10 years ago on drawing paper
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mzilakazi:



1 Rooivalk =5 Hinds. That's how your strength should be.

xwolverine:


Because Rooivalk is stealth?....Please tell me you are joking.

charlos14:


Thank you! That is what I have been trying to tell them.

patches689:


How? Why?

Give us specifications, details.

No one cares about your plebeian opinion

patches689:


Lol, yet again this clown exposes his ignorance

We are stabilizing the whole of North Kivu

Something Nigeria cannot acheive in its own country - how many rebel groups do you have? 18?

charlos14:


If you take out the all seeing eye, The driver only see forward....

He cant see if a tank is coming to crush him from his left or right...... Don't claim the Badger now have acoustics to detect side movement.
BTR4 provides 180 degree situational awareness.

agaugust:


SANDF is nothing in FIB without United Nations military command leading you by Tanzanian army officers
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mzilakazi:


So did NAF made any purchase of ISTAR aircraft in the last 20 years?

agaugust:


Bad-ger IFV has a Bad-eye sight...Bad-ger is Bad-design
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agaugust:


Yes in the recent 7 years, NAF Beechcraft ER, Diamond DA42, ATR-42 Surveyor....many....enough to make South Africa cry
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