agaugust:


Your own photos clearly proved him right, Badger IFV design is bad, the 360 degree eye is full exposed to snipers who will blast it off.

Badger goes blind like a street beggar and IFV gets killed plus the 10 soldiers inside
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Badger has an asset the BTR does not have

If it gets knocked out (a one-in-a-million shot) the badger is then reduced to the same situational awareness as the BTR

What is your point?

agaugust:




Show proof from South Africa of NAF to prove your above claims....We don't entertain guess work or hear say !
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Its so blatantly the same

xwolverine:



Was it done for free? NO
Can SANDF/SAAF afford a similar upgrade? NO

If Nigeria with approximately 22 Mi-35P (Plus 40 more ordered), upgrades its fleet because it can, how does it change the fact that SANDF/SAAF is broke and can't afford the same, coupled with the fact that the Rooivalk project is stalled.

Its just like me buying a Lamborghini and my neighbour who helped in fixing in some custom rims (which I paid for) sounding excited, what should the manufacturers do?

So whats your point exactly?

Point is South Africa has 3X the government revenue and a smaller military with roughly the same military budget

We dont operate Hind's because they are not attack helos

Rooivalk project has not stalled - we have a squadron of fully operational rooivalk as we speak

GreenandGold:


buhahahahaha... Evidence from your one-and-only blog

buhahahaha

https://beegeagle./2015/01/02/freshly-delivered-mi-35p-attack-helicopters-of-the-nigerian-air-force-reportedly-modernised-by-a-south-african-firm/

[size=20pt]((((BOOOOMMMMM)))))[/size]

agaugust:


No need of citation, published aircraft inventory list of SAAF officially shows NO purchased of any ISTAR aircraft in the last 20 years

SAAF is 66 years behind NAF in ISTAR capabilities
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Gripen + Recce Pods + Sniper Pods = ISTAR

What were you saying?

And show us where it says your planes have what you claim

agaugust:


So why are you hungry for Bad-ger IFV and stealth OPV since you have no reason to rebuild SANDF ?

Plus your air force jets have NO single BVR missile, so you won't rebuild ?
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We arent re-building

We are modernizing

All military's around the world are constantly upgrading and modernizing

agaugust:


NAF has the Diamond DA42 with ISR capability, go through the specs in detail before hugging a 10,000 volts transformer so y.ou can see a good reason why y.ou need suicide

http://www.diamondaircraft.com/aircraft/da42/

NAF is a beautiful Diamond in the sky !
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Ok, so Diamond makes such planes

Now show us that your plane has such capabilities.

And we have allready aquired such capabilities

agaugust:


SANDF is nothing in FIB without United Nations military command leading you by Tanzanian army officers
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Nothing apart from the biggest troop contributor and the biggest contributor of assets as well as the nation that forced the FIB into existance

Nice way of trying to avoid the fact that your ignorance just got exposed.

agaugust:


Bad-ger IFV has a Bad-eye sight...Bad-ger is Bad-design
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#Childishness

agaugust:


Yes in the recent 7 years, NAF Beechcraft ER, Diamond DA42, ATR-42 Surveyor....many....enough to make South Africa cry
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Beechcraft is VIP transport. Diamond is of an unknown model, ATR-42 is of limited use as it is only maritime patrol

agaugust:


South African air force Gripen jet pilots have never shot down a combat aircraft in their history, your current pilots have ZERO combat experience including the Hawk jets
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No single Nigerian pilot has ever shot down a combat aircraft in the history of the Nigerian airforce

Your airforce has zero combat experience

agaugust:


Beegeagle said, 'reported by some people' . He did not say it is a confirmed source, NO source to prove it so sharaaaap !
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So you are saying that Beegeagle does not allways make factual posts and relies on hersay and rumors?

Wow, what a frank admission.

agaugust:


Does Boko Haram have T-72 tanks and Mi-35 Hind helicopters ?

American white men say it, so your brain is not free to evaluate or challenge it because your white master said it ?

I can now see why the white men ruled you South Africans till modern day 1994 when the rest of Africa was already free and independent.

Boer white master saw a nation of brainless creatures and cheated them till 1994 when even small Rwanda nation was free and independent.

Shame !
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long emotional post

Fact of the matter is that the US military has said that man for man, Boko Haram are the better fighters

agaugust:


Nope, it's Russians working on South African soil....that's if at all NAF used SA, because Brazil has same upgrade factory too from Russia




The Mi-35 Hind helicopter upgrade industry in South Africa is technically set up, supplied and controlled by Mil Company of Russia.

The facility is Russian technology and manpower shipped and set up on South African soil.

Another interested country can apply to Russia and get the facility established on their home soil as foreign Mil company branch.

Brazil has the same Russian helicopter upgrade facility in city of Juan Veloso http://rostec.ru/en/news/4514251

Why don't South Africa integrate Umbani guided bomb on Gripen jet? Sweden refused to give you technical help for Umbani bomb.

Russia gave you it's staff and equipment to do Hind upgrades, you did not ingeniously create the Mi-35 upgrade capability on your own.

DENEL does same with a Russian company.


"Russian Helicopters Holding Company and South Africa’s Denel Aviation have established an authorized maintenance, repairs and overhaul (MRO) service center for Russian-made civil helicopters. Unveiling the MRO Service Center was timed to coincide with the BRICS summit in South Africa that brings together heads of state of the largest emerging economies in the world - Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

Senior management of Russian Helicopters Holding Company and Denel Aviation top executives attended the opening ceremony, along with heads of operator companies and prospective new buyers of Russian rotary-wing aircraft.

Russian Helicopters supplied all the equipment required for setting up the new maintenance and service center. In addition, the Russian holding company prepared full documentation and organized training for Denel Aviation employees. South African repair and maintenance technicians received training at the Novosibirsk Aircraft Repair Plant."

http://rostec.ru/en/news/1412

ATE too is a Russian branch in South Africa using a different name than Mil to work on Hind helicopters.

http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/south-african-and-russian-companies-in-helicopter-collaboration-2006-10-06


Southie glory thieves, international criminals, you have come again, this time na Russian glory you wan collect, if Putin catch you...

PHOTO : RUSSIAN EXPERTS TRANSFER HELICOPTER UPGRADE TECH AND TRAINING TO SOUTH AFRICAN BRANCH
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Fact of the matter is

A South African company did the upgrade for you

You paid us because we can do what you cannot

End of story

agaugust:


It's a Russian helicopter branch in South Africa, Brazil has the same thing....http://rostec.ru/en/news/4514251
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No other company makes the Super Hind

This is a fact

agaugust:


Brazil http://rostec.ru/en/news/4514251
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It doesnt say anything about them making any such upgrades

agaugust:


You said BH is more powerful, is it a boxing match of muscles? Military power is weapons. Fool

A couple days ago you said that Egypt would win any war because they have big muscles

You have no completely contradicted yourself.

Henry120:




Actually, they only got 10. 10 sub-par helicopters for a county with an area of over 1.2 million kilometers.

Military needs are not decided by area of the country

They are decided by force design needs

Henry120:


13 failed bids.

It says a lot about what people really think of the helicopter.

Because the french wont let us compete with the Tiger

xwolverine:


Now I'm sure you guys spend without foresight, if thats not the case then I don't know what is. Why would you spend a crazy amount of money on a non-sustainable venture and all you got from it was 11 helos? Same way you got Grippens without thinking of the pilots to fly them, sometimes I wonder if there's something in the water your decision makers drink.

$700 million has gone to corruption and a whole sovereign nation can only point to 11 helos, that's a record scandal spiced up with a huge dose of corruption.

You know nothing about capacity development.... $1.2billion was spent on the development of Northrop F-20 Tigershark yet only 3 prototypes were developed. Was it corruption?

Nigeria is a country of peasant engineers they have never engineered anything that lifts off the ground

[size=20pt]Now deal with the fact that our Ingwes could be used in your precious helicopter [/size]

agaugust:


Your own photos clearly proved him right, Badger IFV design is bad, the 360 degree eye is full exposed to snipers who will blast it off.

Badger goes blind like a street beggar and IFV gets killed plus the 10 soldiers inside
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That Badger comes with its friends. Also it has a camera just on the left of that.

Taking that sensor out will be least of your worries, as infantry will be assaulting your positions.

xwolverine:


Because Rooivalk is stealth?....Please tell me you are joking.

Yes, it is stealthy.

It can be armed and fueled in the field. Meaning it will never leave soldiers without close air support for long. Increasing its availability.

It has an unbelievable flight performance cause of reduced vibrations.

xwolverine:


Are you a psychic to know what nationalities the technicians are? the fact that they work in SA doesn't make them southafricans. Sometimes its near impossible to understand your basis for assumptions.

I have friends working in foreign defence companies. That's normal.

EVarn:
these zulu barbarian savages would have claimed that they colonized america if they could.imagine,stealing the hard-work of honest russian folks!,embarrassing indeed.

SA colonised Namibia not America.

Henry120:


All 14 of ours are operational at any given time. Fact is you only got 3 C-130's for a country 1/3 larger than Nigeria.

Shame.

meaning they'll go for maintenance at the same time leaving Nigeria without that capability. Your air command OC is a foo..l.

Not all of them are operational imbeci..le

agaugust:


Congo war DRC M23 is NOT a high-tech war, Rooivalk used only guns and old rocket pods
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The canon and rockets were fired from a high tech, ultra-modern platform called the Rooivalk... a platform you don't have.

EVarn:
these zulu barbarian savages would have claimed that they colonized america if they could.imagine,stealing the hard-work of honest russian folks!,embarrassing indeed.

your tribalism behavior is annoying....why can't you play it with your igbo and Yoruba brothers...

MikeCZAR:
SA colonised Namibia not America.

colonized?,when was black SA released from the brutal chains of slavery?.you didnt colonize anyone,my friend,you were being whipped and branded like cattle,while the boers fought all the wars.

MduZA:



your tribalism behavior is annoying....why can't you play it with your igbo and Yoruba brothers...

forgive me....perhaps i went too far in my enthusiasm.

MikeCZAR:
Yes, it is stealthy.It can be armed and fueled in the field. Meaning it will never leave soldiers without close air support for long. Increasing its availability.It has an unbelievable flight performance cause of reduced vibrations.

old piece of battered junk that belongs in the museum.
*its slow
*it has limited firearm capabilities
*it is a low altitude aircraft{only slightly different a common alpha jet}
*it has a restricted flight range
*it has a very low infantry lifting capacity