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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:30am On Jan 04, 2015
EVarn:
colonized?,when was black SA released from the brutal chains of slavery?.you didnt colonize anyone,my friend,you were being whipped and branded like cattle,while the boers fought all the wars.
SA Bantu tribes never really experienced slavery, as they fought magnificently often defeating colonial forces with spears and limited rifles.

But all SA kingdoms including the South African republic(ZAR) were conquered by the British at the end, whom layered the foundation for apartheid.

White English speaking South Africans were lumped into that "boer" narrative.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 10:12am On Jan 04, 2015
EVarn:
old piece of battered junk that belongs in the museum.
*its slow
*it has limited firearm capabilities
*it is a low altitude aircraft{only slightly different a common alpha jet}
*it has a restricted flight range
*it has a very low infantry lifting capacity

What are you talking about
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:16am On Jan 04, 2015
EVarn:
old piece of battered junk that belongs in the museum.
*its slow( Helicopters are slow. The fastest is the Lynx at around 400km/h)
*it has limited firearm capabilities( It can carry similar weapons to the Apache)
*it is a low altitude aircraft{only slightly different a common alpha jet}( Yes, the Rooivalk operate exclusively at NOE, modern attack helicopters do. It also makes them difficult to pick up with radar. How can a helicopter be slightly different from a fixed aircraft?
*it has a restricted flight range( With tanks its range can increase to 1000km, a landing zone can created near the front for it be refueled and armed. Increasing its range.
)
*it has a very low infantry lifting capacity(It is an attack helicopter)


Fixed for you.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:46am On Jan 04, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria's BTR-4 current numbers are top secret, and more can be purchased as time goes on.

South African army has NO SINGLE Badger IFV in service today
.


Nigeria has only four BTR-4 in service.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:22pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


You said our badger is not amphibious

This means it has been up-armored

Thus it is resistant to 30mm AP

You made these assertions, not me.


Nope, quote where I said Bad-ger with Bad-design can resist 30mm AP shells.

I said basic Bad-ger IFV can only resist small arms like the basic BTR-4

The extra armour on Bad-Bad-ger is at the bottom underneath chassis, trying to make an IFV look like an MRAP .

Boko Haram machine gun will penetrate Bad-ger armour and k.ill ALL the 10 soldiers inside it gringringrin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:25pm On Jan 04, 2015
MikeCZAR:
SA Bantu tribes never really experienced slavery, as they fought magnificently often defeating colonial forces with spears and limited rifles.

But all SA kingdoms including the South African republic(ZAR) were conquered by the British at the end, whom layered the foundation for apartheid.

White English speaking South Africans were lumped into that "boer" narrative.
and what is the purpose of the epistle you wrote?.the bantu were conquered,chained,branded,ra_ped and whipped like common dogs.its a known fact.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:28pm On Jan 04, 2015
GreenandGold:


What are you talking about
what you saw me type.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:34pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


More Nigerians have never seen electricity than there are South Africans

That's because Nigeria's population is almost 4 times the human beings in South Africa

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:37pm On Jan 04, 2015
MikeCZAR:


Fixed for you.
why fix what was never broken,mon chêr?.all my facts still stand,the rooivalks are archaic relics of the roman ages.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:02pm On Jan 04, 2015
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patches689:


Nope

We have talked about this before

Missiles are coming head-on, so speed is useless

You have never proven what rockets you have - so until you do, your F-7's will have to come into CRAM range and get eaten by AHEAD ammo



F-7 operates rocket pods and the list shows rocket ranges from 3 km to 6km of various types, that's simple google search on F-7 armaments.

F-7 jet and Umkhonto missile have same speed, so I fly at safe 9 km altitude , I descend to 8km and Valour frigate fires Umkhnonto missile in desperate defense from imminent danger, I ascend back to 9km in just 2 seconds while you missile is at first phase slow lift ascent still puffing heavy smoke trying to increase momentum.

I keep flying F-7 at 9km and the helpless Umkhonto missile is useless and harmeless and wasted.

That is saturation attack combat tactics and it will waste ALL Valour frigates anti-aircraft missiles.

After that, I will come back from perpendicular angle to Valour deck safely beyond elevation zone of all guns on your ship and I will rocket the South African navy to kingdom come !

$15 million NAF F-7 jet will easily sink $300 million SAN Valour Frigates without any labour or sweat, our pilots do ground attack tactics almost every day and we are currently the most experienced in Africa for air to ground attack operations.

Only a country with no standard air force will fear a poorly armed Frigate like the Valour ships of South African navy
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:09pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


Augustus

That is the USMC

Their job is amphibious assault

Obviously their vehicals will be amphibious

US Marines job is to fight outside America, there is no amphibious assault terrain in Afghanistan, it has no sea, yet US marines fought there for 11 years, is that an amphibious job ?

Mumu.

Bad-ger IFV is a dry land only vehicle for local use inside South African homeland, ZERO force projection !
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:10pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


Augustus

]That is the USMC

Their job is amphibious assault

Obviously their vehicals will be amphibious

US Marines job is to fight outside America, there is no amphibious assault terrain in Afghanistan, it has no sea, yet US marines fought there for 11 years on dry land only, is that an amphibious job ? Olodo .

Bad-ger IFV is a dry land only vehicle for local use inside South African homeland, ZERO force projection !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:24pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


Badger driver can place his mantle in 3 positions, completely open, open and with a BP window, or "buttoned-down"


Bwahahahaha cheesycheesycheesy

Bad-ger IFV tries to copy modern BTR-4...opens window...Bad-ger gun blows off Bad-ger drivers head cheesycheesycheesy

Bad-ger IFV = Bad-design = Death by own bullet = home goal in a football match !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:34pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


First, this is a ridiculous notion about "snipers" hitting a moving target, while under fire. Further, you have yet to prove that a snipers round will knock it out

Moving target, does no Badger always drives and never stops? Fuel is unlimited?

AGL with 2km range does not need direct hit, a hit on turret will splinter on the camera and smash it.

Sniper with anti-material rifle, AGL, and high caliber sniper ammo rifle, all these can range about 2 km away and shatter the Bad-ger's over-exposed camera eye, one-eyed Bad-ger
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:37pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


Badger has an asset the BTR does not have

If it gets knocked out (a one-in-a-million shot) the badger is then reduced to the same situational awareness as the BTR

What is your point?

BTR-4 camera is shielded from snipers, so we will have it, Bad-ger will lose it's over exposed over head position camera and left with the prison hole window, Badger is blinded like a street begger
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:44pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


Gripen + Recce Pods + Sniper Pods = ISTAR

What were you saying?

And show us where it says your planes have what you claim

Gripen does only Recce for about 30 minutes only, I posted that here from Sweden and defenceweb, repeated many times
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:48pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


We arent re-building

We are modernizing

All military's around the world are constantly upgrading and modernizing


Means re-building, means upgrading. Rebuilt engine does not mean the old one was thrown away, just add in and remove some stuff.

Try learn use of English, I know South African schools are thrash, try improve yourself at home.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:51pm On Jan 04, 2015
GreenandGold:


The canon and rockets were fired from a high tech, ultra-modern platform called the Rooivalk... a platform you don't have.

The Rooivalk was jointly in combat side by side with Mi-35 Hind against M23, so what?

NAF has the best high-tech 2014 Russian version Mi-35 on planet earth
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:55pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


So you are saying that Beegeagle does not allways make factual posts and relies on hersay and rumors?

Wow, what a frank admission.

Even BBC will post it's confirmed own source claims, and also quote claims from other sources it cannot verify and declare it as 'reported'.

Excellent journalism.

Beegeagle is BBC class.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:57pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


A couple days ago you said that Egypt would win any war because they have big muscles

You have no completely contradicted yourself.


Quote where I said Egypt will use muscles to win war.

I replied the Southies who said Egypt has good equipment but weak soldiers, and I said no, Egypt has good equip and strong men.

Anyway SANDF has the weakest soldiers in Africa, thanks to HIV
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:59pm On Jan 04, 2015
GreenandGold:
Now deal with the fact that our Ingwes could be used in your precious helicopter

Citation needed
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:03pm On Jan 04, 2015
mzilakazi:



Nigeria has only four BTR-4 in service.

Nobody knows all Nigerian weapons, sources are not easily published, all we get are few photos, Nigerian military is secretive
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:10pm On Jan 04, 2015
Centrifude:
@agaugust
"The agreement provides for the integration of
ATE (and other) avionics in a wide range of
Russian civil helicopter designs"

"The ATE avionics packages would be available
for integration on newly-built helicopters or as
moder-nisation and upgrade packages for older
examples of these models."


This means that South African Technology (Avionics) will be integrated into Russian Models, the Upgrade Packages are still of South African Origin, it doesn't say anything about A.T.E belonging to Russia.

Russia provides the Aircraft or Airframes and we upgrade them with our kit. It is a collaboration, when you have such a collaboration you will need technology transfer, because South African tech is basically Western Technology and we need to understand Russian technology to incorporate our tech, that's why A.T.E tech is considered as the combination of western and eastern technology


"ATE has also developed a composite rotor blade
for the Mi-24, to replace its original metal
blades.
This new composite blade has been entirely
designed and developed in South Africa."


Thank you for sharing that A.T.E has developed their very own indigenous Rotor Blades

#Where does it say A.T.E belongs to Russia and the A.T.E Ugrade kit is from Russia


Learn to read and understand!!!



patches689:


No other company makes the Super Hind

This is a fact





[size=16pt]Stop wasting your time Southies, NAF Mi-35 Super Hind upgrade done in Ukraine shocked shocked[/size]


Nigeria gets from Ukraine Mi-24 helicopters :

"Following the purchase of T-72AV and BTR-4E from the Ukraine in 2014, Nigeria, apparently acquires former Ukrainian Mi-24 combat helicopters.

Nigerian web resource beegeagle. 2 January 2015 published a picture of the two Nigeria Air Force modernization Super Hind Mk III -Mi-24 combat helicopters.

Serial works on modernization of the Mi-24 Super Hind options are carried out on contract by the Ukrainian State Enterprise “Konotop Aircraft Repair Plant” Aviacon “(Konotop, Sumy region). In 1999-2004, Konotop factory for the Algerian Air Force, upgraded 33 former Ukrainian Mi-24V to the Super Hind Mk III version, and in 2010-2011 – for the Azerbaijani Air Force 12 former Ukrainian Mi-24K to the Super Hind Mk IV (upgraded Azerbaijani helicopters received the designation Mi-24G).

Two Mi-24 passing upgrading to Super Hind version , were seen in the factory floor of “Aviacon” Ukraine on October 16, 2014"

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1121573.html

Source Beegeagle


I have always said it for the past two years on this blog, that Nigeria has a defense pact with Ukraine for any emergency weapons supply.

Watch out for Nigerian army T-84 Oplot-M tanks and more BTR-4E different versions, info says we ordered one battalion of BTR-4E
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 3:01pm On Jan 04, 2015
patches689:


First, this is a ridiculous notion about "snipers" hitting a moving target, while under fire. Further, you have yet to prove that a snipers round will knock it out

Second, your BTR has not 360 degree veiwfinder


Snipers are well hidden and with you saying this, I am beginning to doubt if SA has any good sniper.

Snipers hit stationary and moving targets.

You say the BTR is better, yet as usual you cannot tell us why.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 3:10pm On Jan 04, 2015
agaugust:


Bwahahahaha cheesycheesycheesy

Bad-ger IFV tries to copy modern BTR-4...opens window...Bad-ger gun blows off Bad-ger drivers head cheesycheesycheesy

Bad-ger IFV = Bad-design = Death by own bullet = home goal in a football match !
.

If the Drivers door is open...the Bad-germ cant fire its cannon forward..... Worst design.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 3:22pm On Jan 04, 2015
MikeCZAR:
SA Bantu tribes never really experienced slavery, as they fought magnificently often defeating colonial forces with spears and limited rifles.

But all SA kingdoms including the South African republic(ZAR) were conquered by the British at the end, whom layered the foundation for apartheid.

White English speaking South Africans were lumped into that "boer" narrative.
You may have fought valiantly at the beginning..but now look at your proud Zulu warriors, you people are a disgrace to the black race.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 3:46pm On Jan 04, 2015
agaugust:


That's because Nigeria's population is almost 4 times the human beings in South Africa

Yet we produce 10 times the electricity
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 3:56pm On Jan 04, 2015
EVarn:
why fix what was never broken,mon chêr?.all my facts still stand,the rooivalks are archaic relics of the roman ages.

Buhahahaha

The Rooivalk is in the top 7 of the world's attack helicopters

www.military-today.com/helicopters/top_9_attack_helicopters.htm

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 4:01pm On Jan 04, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
You may have fought valiantly at the beginning..but now look at your proud Zulu warriors, you people are a disgrace to the black race.

Thats no Zulu warrior.. to which regiment does he belong too?

You flat-head Igbos are a disgrace to the black race, you're mutants born with flat-headed defects
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 4:06pm On Jan 04, 2015
charlos14:


If the Drivers door is open...the Bad-germ cant fire its cannon forward..... Worst design.

That's no driver's door... crew and driver enter through the rear door like all modern IFVs.

You're demonstrating your inferior Nigerian education - Failed again
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ChukwuCantDie: 4:09pm On Jan 04, 2015
GreenandGold:


Thats no Zulu warrior.. to which regiment does he belong too?

You flat-head Igbos are a disgrace to the black race, you're mutants born with flat-headed defects
He belongs to the monkey regiment like all the rest you egg headed Zulu f@ggots

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 4:23pm On Jan 04, 2015
GreenandGold:


That's no driver's door... crew and driver enter through the rear door like all modern IFVs.

You're demonstrating your inferior Nigerian education - Failed again
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Hatch,window, door whatever, Your self acclaimed bad-germ cannon cannot fire forward with that hatch open grin

The Bad-germ will be called the mechanical Ebola plaguing south Africa because of the high number of casualties it will suffer.
remember its a one time use only..... send off to the field: failure guaranteed! grin

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