eighTHREAD:
The RCCG that endorsed GEJ in the past are now plotting against him. Politics of religion and ethnicity including name callings like "boko haram Sponsor" are no longer working for the otuoke master, it's certificate issue he and his minions are relying on now.

alaoeri:
Indirectly campaigning for their own Osinbanjo.
Sai Buhari/Osinbanjo.

Bolade005:

Ok. Did you see "...to vote for your choice candidate" part of the message?

Again, tell me what is wrong in a church telling the congregation to vote for a candidate of their choice?. It's not like they can't choose not to vote atall, they were only advised or implored but never were they mandated to vote so tell me what is morally wrong with that. Reminding you to exercise your right, a right which you can choose not to excercise is now a crime?

I'm not ready to go back and forth with you, stick to your opinion while I stick to mine.

Herzumpther:
Na wa o. What he said was that the order came from the headquarters that was after he talked about their ongoing fasting which started on second. My mum and siblings who are redeemers were not happy about it too.

Kenneth205:
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Members of Redeem Christian Church of God Victory house in Festac town and other branches were asked to show their Permanent Voters Cards during church
service today. The Pastor in charge of the Festac province said pastor Adeboye had that every member of the church come with it as proof that they have registered and also advised those that have not done
so to do so immediately so they can vote during the general elections holding in February. More pics after the cut...

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nationwide1:
Why still discuss certificates here? It's a disgrace to talk about it. That an adult can't keep his credentials safely or lied under oath about it is unprintable. The same adult who can't keep his certificates wants to handle the future of 170 million people. Dig the implication.

ifex370:
this is bad... very bad


The Church has really lost it

KoloOyinbo:
Let us be clear about something.

We know they have not endorsed one side or the other.

This is irrelevant.

That fact that they are asking to see the cards is the issue.

This is NOT Church business. Any European Churchman asking such intrusive questions would be told quite correctly to mind his own business.

It is one of the reasons why Christians coming to some Nigerian Churches are made to feel very uneasy. I would have to leave such a service/church if I saw this inappropriate behaviour.

loldar2000:

LOST what. it is a necessity to have your voters card. You better go and get yours and ensure your friends too get theirs. Vote for whom you like.
Don't complain.

loldar2000:


LOST what. it is a necessity to have your voters card. You better go and get yours and ensure your friends too get theirs. Vote for whom you like.

Don't complain.

samuelson06:


Personally, I see nothing wrong with the MOG asking members to just flash their PVCs. He is only promoting and encouraging members to be part of a democratic government. Remember the beauty of democracy is about election and election is through voting using a voter's card and if you don't have one to support the process, it means you are against democracy. You can't just sit on the fence. It's our right to vote and be voted for. What do you think?

Monimatic:
End time tinz...all these churches,Mosques,bablawos,witches, wizards, Pastor, Prophets, Imam n Oracles dabbling into politics, even pastors, Alfas, Imams,witches and wizards, mammy water, prophets n general overseers dey make elections predictions like bookmakers for NairaBet.... wetin concern agbero with overload...before u know dem go say dem catch some church members dey duplicate PVC inside Church or for One member house , the members go come say na. Their General Overseer send dem to duplicate PVC, General Overseer go come deny am say na one political party wan witch hunt him n give him bad name because he no support their candidate, then some mumu church members go come nairaland come dey defend their church members n General Overseer wey dem catch with PVC, dem go say Police n other Security agency are playing with fire of the Holy Ghost, dem go say make Police n other Security agency no provoke the Holy Spirit by arresting or quizzing their members or General Overseer. ...Na so Devil dey take scatter church, he go dey bring politics matter enter church small small, d politics matter go come carry scandals enter church...Na Real End time tinz...d end of d world is near.....Daris God oh!

KoloOyinbo:


I think people have a duty to vote but the right to abstain if they wish to do so (its a democracy right). Not choosing to vote is NOT being against democracy.

Either way it is quite reprehensible that a Church would involve itself in such an issue. Come on now, can you see a Church getting away with this intrusive rubbish in any European Country?

samuelson06:


Europe may not do this but that doesn't mean they are more intelligent than us and good that you said people have a duty to vote. Question, who should vote and who should abstain? Voting is not just a duty or a right, it's an obligation placed by democracy in a democratic government on an individual that is up to 18 years and above to exercise his/her franchise. Failing to do so is an anomaly. And in the society, you and I are the church and the men of God are our leaders, so it's just okay that they always encourage us to do the right thing especially at this time that elections are fast approaching. Anybody can do this as far as that person is a member or citizen of the country he resides. The problem is that when we don't vote, rigging becomes very easy but when we vote, we tend to use up the materials. I don't know if you still have objection to this.

KoloOyinbo:


My only objection is that the Churc

h has no right to involve itself in this. This is clearly incorrect. Church and State are kept SEPERATE. The Church has no right to ask the individuals what is their own private business. This is INTRUSIVE to the point of IMMORALITY.

As for the Duty to vote I agree with you but that is just an opinion and people who choose NOT to vote are entitled to that opinion without censure of their Church.

I usually vote myself but on occasion have abstained as I found ALL of my local candidates repugnant! (Please don't think that Naija has sole rights on useless politicians there are quite a lot of them in my country also )

DancingSkeleton:
shame

no wonder Satan RULES



the house of God has be turned upside down

quote me and d!e before FEBRUARY 1st

FTC tho

atbu1983:

You are wrong. In Germany it is the Christian Democratic Union party that rules. The current chancellor (President) of Germany is from that Party.
Also if know your bible very well, u will know that the prophets in the bible were very much involve in politics. Some of them change kings through coup. Some of the prophets even instigate the people against the kings etc.

samuelson06:


And you want a man who cannot control his own wife to continue leading us? Which has more grave consequence or implication? Just keep quite. Only fools like you would continue voting Jonathan.

donphilopus:


Oga mi, pls change that 'next year' in your signature. We're sending him back home this very here!

KoloOyinbo:

Either way it is quite reprehensible that a Church would involve itself in such an issue. Come on now, can you see a Church getting away with this intrusive rubbish in any European Country?

KoloOyinbo:


Yes I saw this AND addressed it in my posts.

It is just not the place of a Church to be telling them these things. They should[b] not [/b]ask to see any cards, its not their business and if the people choose not to vote for whatever reason that is their own political choice and not the business of the Church again.

See SEPERATION of Church and State! No excuse to say chose whichever candidate you want. They might not wish to chose any and their cards are their own business.

rukkyland:

if the thing dey pain u..go commit suicide na..abi? why are u still living?

Unclerukus:
Its not surprising given that most church members and churches alike encourage materialism and unnecessary materialistic competitions into the church, where you see a family starving at home but save their annual wage to buy a ride to flash in church on sunday or people playing the who is the richest in the church game like worldly competitions,rubbish. so it was only a matter of time before politics enters into the house of God.

atbu1983:

You are wrong. In Germany it is the Christian Democratic Union party that rules. The current chancellor (President) of Germany is from that Party.

Also if know your bible very well, u will know that the prophets in the bible were very much involve in politics. Some of them change kings through coup. Some of the prophets even instigate the people against the kings etc.