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Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by 1ord: 8:42am On Jan 04, 2015 |
benalvino2:So My good friend is this a credible source? The website clearly doesnt know what dafuq they are doing cause they clearly used round to define the earth.You can try twisting this as you like but your dumbo prophets taught the earth was flat.And you Fu.c.kwit round is an adjective defining something shaped like a circle. A circle is a flat object and given the references i gave earlier from your myth you called religion your bigot of a God feels the earth is round and flat aka a circle.You are the definition of an inbred. Because some of your prophets claim to see the ends of a sphere only a flat circular shaped earth can have ends .Dumbo do you get the drift now fu.ec.k off. I dont know what they taught you in school but a circle is not a sphere and a cube is not a square. |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by cloudstar: 9:11am On Jan 04, 2015 |
Pr0ton With no other observable alternative, we can conclude that it did. Okay, thanks for point that out. This leads us to several other questions: 1. How did the universe come out of nothing? Since it wasn't eternal and had a beginning - where was it before the beginning or where did it come from? 2. How does the universe creating itself fit into the scientific claim that NOTHING can come out of NOTHING. Or does your idea of nothing includes something ![]() How can anything exist outside time and space?? There was no time and space before the universe began, with that, it can be said to be eternal. I am a bit confused here. Are you stating that the universe was eternal? If that is what you are saying; remember that above you claimed that the universe created itself. How can something that existed eternally create itself? Your argument seem to be have too many holes in it. With that, I will ask: 1. Was/Is our universe eternal? 2. Did it create itself? 3. Did it have a beginning? Even if there was any intelligent designer it can't be your God because it doesn't have features you attribute to your God. It doesn't connect to us. It only made the "first cause". Again, you seem not to understand the Character of the Christian God. Our God is all powerful, all supreme, the first un-caused cause yet He is personal and we Christians relate to him. If you read the Bible, you should know that is quite obvious. What I'm I cherry picking? I stated what your Bible states that your God has a beginning. And maybe after He began to exist He started creating things. But one thing is He has a beginning which is no different from the universe. The Bible never stated "God had a beginning" The author described that the creation of our universe had a start i.e. the flip was switch on. It described the process of the universe existence as "In the beginning - God created the heaven and the earth". The author never stated nor implied God had a beginning nor did He create Himself. You are deliberately mis-representing the text and it's quite obvious. Sadly, it's not objective on your part and quite malicious. It is not uncommon for the Bible to contradict itself. Where one place states "in the beginning" another place will tell you a different thing. It'd lead to nowhere if I started quoting out verses that contradict those up there. You are mis-representing the passages referenced and I have addressed this accusation above already. I quoted the other passages showing that God existed before the beginning. There is no Christian whether in the Bible or in Theology that will tell you that the Christian God created Himself or that He had a beginning and the Bible doesn't claim or state that. The Bible narrated the description of when our universe was created; it didn't infer or state that God created Himself at the same time - you are the only one making such claims for Christians and it's at best laughable ![]() It is also not uncommon for the Bible to make scientific errors, like the assertion that anything can exist outside time and space. This can easily be cleared up if you tell us how our universe came into being. Remember the questions I asked: 1. Was/Is our universe eternal? 2. Did it create itself? 3. Did it have a beginning? Your response will actually provide an answer to your statement Now if all you'll keep doing is swallowing up apologetics lies and errors and coming here to vomit them for me to clean... I'm done with you. I can say the same thing to you my friend. I reckon we are having an intelligent discussion but you are not compelled to continue. You can decide to believe whatever you want to believe. However, don't criticize others for choosing to believe what they want to believe especially when you can't defend your beliefs. |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 10:16am On Jan 04, 2015 |
1ord: y'all can see how he avoids Wikipedia... I brought that other page because he too knows the earth is round, a sphere is round... its common sense. I know your eyes are selective, they can't see the Wikipedia link. since you say a sphere is not round... what is its degrees? does it have sides? doesn't it have multiple angles? why not answer the questions? |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 10:38am On Jan 04, 2015 |
1ord: its you scientist that said earth was flat... bible said round which according to you is an adjective use to describe circles but not spheres... lol. do you know what 2Dcn 3D is? that's the only difference between circle n a sphere but we are talking abound round though. so round describe only circles and not spheres? olodo !!! didn't you see the Wikipedia reference I gave? how dishonest... first you guys can't stand the original question and now you have no clue that the earth is round... since you said its not round what is the shape of a sphere? a question you guys are running away from. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/circle then see this. adjective, rounder, roundest. 1. having a flat, circular surface, as a disk. 2. ring-shaped, as a hoop. 3. curved like part of a circle, as an outline. 4. having a circular cross section, as a cylinder; cylindrical. 5. spherical or globular, as a ball. 6. shaped more or less like a part of a sphere; hemispherical. 7. free from angularity; consisting of full, curved lines or shapes, as handwriting or parts of the body. Expand noun 19. any round shape, as a circle, ring or sphere. 20. a circular, ring-shaped, curved, or spherical object; a rounded form. 21. something circular in cross section, as a rung of a ladder or chair. 22. Sometimes, rounds. a completed course of time, series of events or operations, etc., ending at a point corresponding to that at the beginning: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round?s=t whats your next excuse... |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by 1ord: 10:46am On Jan 04, 2015 |
benalvino2:your a special kind of stupid. How do you see the ends of a sphere? your crazy prophets taught it was flat aka a circle. You get? dumbo. That is you can only see the ends if its a circle. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 10:49am On Jan 04, 2015 |
1ord: is a sphere round? yes or no |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 11:11am On Jan 04, 2015 |
1ord: go and read the bible and understand it... first you said the earth is a sphere and I said sphere is round and you told me I am a re tard for saying sphere is round... now you are talking about a bible passage you don't understand lol... care to post the verse where it said this? "your crazy prophets taught it was flat aka a circle" |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by oluvick(m): 2:25pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
An atheist is someone with no invisible means of support.! 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by ooman(m): 4:06pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
benalvino1: Read some books, do some thinking and all your questions will be answered. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 4:09pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
ooman:okay from what you have read answer the question |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 10:28pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
benalvino2:Butturt! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 10:57pm On Jan 04, 2015 |
davien: could you quote me where I said that? or I simply said anything that house or serve as a container of bodies with masses has a mass as well. you are a dishonest F... I have asked you how is sphere not round you and your love can't answer. and you keep liking your own post lol and fool I never ran away from anything... go back and follow it what we discuss... I am talking with 1ord about sphere not you! at this point you are making your self look stupid. |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by ooman(m): 3:21pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
benalvino2: i will not waste my time. Those questions have answers. Dont be intelectually lazy. Do some more reading. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by slyfox5555: 11:23pm On Jan 05, 2015 |
1ord: You still seem to argue blindly. I am not denying that there were wars in the Bible. For you guys to claim that all those wars were unprovoked is simply not true and that was where I was getting at. You can't generalize; you have to be specific on the wars you are referring to. Typical example, you can't compare the war fought in Rwanda with the war fought in world war 2 - two different scenarios and time-frames The wars in the Bible have context, times, cultures, places that are totally different than our modern laws and way of life. You have to understand that before you start tackling the subject. I don't mind indulging you; all I ask is for you to be specific and objective |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 12:09am On Jan 06, 2015 |
slyfox5555: they are dishonest people what do you expect? |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 12:10am On Jan 06, 2015 |
benalvino2:And you base this on what,the bible says so? ![]() |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 12:13am On Jan 06, 2015 |
davien: base on you lying that I said the universe is single point mass... I ask you to quote me and you can't |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 12:29am On Jan 06, 2015 |
benalvino2:when you apply a scientific notion about single point mass bodies and apply it to the universe as a "body" again,you claiming its a single mass body?! ![]() benalvino1 my reply davienthen you said benalvino and boom goes the dynamite davien https://www.nairaland.com/2067183/atheists-stupidity/1#29336051 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 12:54am On Jan 06, 2015 |
davien: so you couldn't quote where I said the universe is a single point mass Abi? all I have been saying is anything which house or contains various body with mass has mass itself. I said the universe have mass and I gave you link for it I guess... you are a dishonest human being. |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 1:04am On Jan 06, 2015 |
[b]benalvino1: you replied And I told you that newtons second law of motion applies to single point mass bodies....the universe is not a single point mass body...because it has no centre of gravity...you know next to nothing about the principle if you think it applies to the universe.. The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological model for the birth of the universe.[1] The model postulates that at some moment all of space was [size=18pt]contained[/size] in a single point from which the universe has been expanding ever since the bold font and the enlarge font is my point. |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 1:06am On Jan 06, 2015 |
benalvino2:And you would still be saying the same thing dumbo,if you regard the universe with everything in it as having masses that according to you makes the entire universe have a finite mass that obeys newtons law of motion then you are claiming the universe and everything in it is a single point mass...how does that escape you...are you this stu.pid? Here's an analogy If you claim a house is made up of objects that in total would give a mass of the house and then apply a principle that only works for objects in the house to the house then you need to go back to school... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 1:25am On Jan 06, 2015 |
davien: no... my question is based on the beginning you fuck_tard everything was contained in a single point... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs-yWMuBNr4 watch n understand my question... bug bang is poop |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 8:57am On Jan 06, 2015 |
benalvino2:what exactly is your question then....are you just too stu.pid to grasp anything being said? You didn't even watch your own video..... |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by slyfox5555: 3:33pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
davien: Irrespective of the above, the question is this? 1. Did the universe have a beginning? 2. Did the universe exist eternally? 3. Did the universe create itself? I have asked my atheist friends here and can't get a straight answer |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 3:40pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
slyfox5555: he is going to attack you... |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 4:31pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
slyfox5555:so you do have sock accounts.. ![]() It's fundamental properties seem to be eternal....so go figure......the problem with discussing anything with inflation is that many people view it as though it's an explosion that spews stuff that didn't exist into a void(its even shown that way in movies)...but to really envision such a phenomenon it would actually be expanding from the inside...having no outside whatsoever because there wouldn't be one..as everything that can be said to exist was and is the inflating universe.. Is it a creation?....because if I understand you correctly from your question you think it's "created"... What I can tell you though is that the physics of the universe cannot be accounted for past and present by wishful thinking and mundane reasoning.. Contrary to your friend benalvino2 I didn't attack you...although that depends if you're intellectually honest.... |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by slyfox5555: 5:05pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
davien so you do have sock accounts.. I am asking you what you believe. I am asking about the universe - so let us concentrate on the universe. You agree that the universe had a beginning. It's fundamental properties seem to be eternal....so go figure......the problem with discussing anything with inflation is that many people view it as though it's an explosion that spews stuff that didn't exist into a void(its even shown that way in movies)...but to really envision such a phenomenon it would actually be expanding from the inside...having no outside whatsoever because there wouldn't be one..as everything that can be said to exist was and is the inflating universe.. Can you give me an example of an inflation that expands from inside from virtually no matter or energy into something like say our universe. Or you can give me any other example to prove your theory where inflation can occur spontaneously without the existence of matter or energy. Is it a creation?....because if I understand you correctly from your question you think it's "created"... You seem to be dodging the question. The universe can't be both eternal and had a beginning - the simple proof to that is that our universe is constantly expanding. The big bang is a scientific concept that science mocked several years ago but they now embrace. So, it's clear that our universe never existed and suddenly around 14 billion years ago popped up. That is not wishing thinking, that is science confirming that. Contrary to your friend benalvino2 I didn't attack you...although that depends if you're intellectually honest I never used the word attack or said you did. I said Atheist can't provide a satisfactory answer on the origin of our universe yet they are critical of other opinions on the matter |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 5:09pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
davien: what the F is inflation? hahaha.. what are the properties? matter and anti-matter? what the F is anti matter? what about dark matter? if the universe came into existence... how can things be in something that did not exist? like the video I put here it said the universe burst into existence... |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 5:24pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
benalvino2:I've already labelled you a troll...yes the video did say it "burst into existence" in 1:80,it then went on to correct this form of thinking in 2:50 that it inflated....lay people need simple language...an expanding 3-dimensional universe was discussed after 1:80,or did you switch off the video when the tautology got too hard to understand? lol ![]() |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 5:37pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
davien:Watch the video again... He said the universe burst in to existence... Then he said it inflated into existence. Hahaha When something inflate or burst into existence it means there was a time it did not exists... Inflation is a myth just like anti-matter and dark matter. There is no evidence of it they cant replicate it. |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by davien(m): 5:50pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
slyfox5555:I don't have to believe anything about the universe....the objective evidence thus far points to an expanding universe,so that is what is known currently as the state of the universe First off its not my theory(i did not postulate an expanding universe)....the postulate was first known to have been proposed by a Catholic priest of which it was justified by Edwin hubble.....only to be ridiculed by steady-state theorist fred hoyle as the "big bang" Second before asking about inflation it's best you go read about it because right now the questions you are asking are uneducated questions....inflation still contained energy and then matter...if you do not even understand the basics then I can't go any further... You misunderstood my reply... I said the properties "seem" to be eternal....and that the "first inflation" is regarded as the beginning of the universe...try reading my posts before vehemently replying. Again try reading my posts before vehemently replying...I was referring to benalvino2,and asking atheists about cosmology ofcourse won't give you any "satisfactory answer"(depending on what you're looking for) because you are looking for cosmological answers among atheists as though they are astronomers... ![]() |
Re: Atheists And Their Stupidity by benalvino2(m): 6:04pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
davien:What is inflation... Instead of you to explain you are talking too much. |
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