ewosk:

going through your post i agree with you...you were obviously taught English language by a '''SOUTHERN COPER""" LOL

argumentum ad populi face the issues jare!!

. No anY southerners teach me since when I am in primary

santori:


can you mention any first world country without welfare package for the unemployed?

We Are not first world are we? We are not even second world WE Are THIRD WORLD for crying out loud....................... I can mention first world economies with welfare packages, I can also mention failing and struggling facets of Their economies and I can also mention the fact that they don't have unsustainable population explosions like Nigeria with semi-literate and largely unskilled workforce/labour markets. Go figure

barcanista:
Buhari is a man of integrity, he doesn't say something and do the opposite. I am sure you will be glad that he's is our PresideÑt-to-come

Yes just like he and his kinsmen said they will make GEJ's govt ungovernable, and

they did it.
Man of integrity.

barcanista:
bros I don't care about any EEC nor their fiscal policies or whatever. What happened in Spain, Greece and co wasn't caused by their welfare program, so many factors contributed to their fall. I'm more concerned about Nigeria but not some eu country. Thanks

the welfare system destroyed greece! There was a global economic crises, the greeks still wanted the govt to maintain their subsidyz, ofcos the govt crashed. Read up

revolt:
the welfare system destroyed greece! There was a global economic crises, the greeks still wanted the govt to maintain their subsidyz, ofcos the govt crashed. Read up

was the economic woes of Greece and spain
attributed to having a social package for its
citizenry, tell me what I dont knw, you seems to
be uninformed.
let me share your analogy, why didn't countries like
Germany, France, UK, Australia, Sweden, Norway
e.t.c suffer the same faith
for the facts, the economic slump of Greece and
spain is solely attributed to mismanagement of
the economy. greece was even was even
lampooned for spending a humongous scarce
resources hosting the euros some years back

santori:



was the economic woes of Greece and spain attributed to having a social package for its citizenry, tell me what I dont knw, you seems to be uninformed.
let share your analogy, why didn't countries like Germany, France, UK, Australia, Sweden, Norway e.t.c suffer the same faith

for the facts, the economic slump of Greece ans spain is solely attributed to mismanagement of the economy. greece was even was even lampooned for spending a humongous scarce resources hosting the euros some years back

cos uK france etc could sustain it, greece couldn't n they had ppl lilke u tht urged to govt on. Its nt bout welfare systems being bad but obvioysly nigeria cannot sustain tht.

Look oil prices are goin down, we've lost our only najor buyer, what do we do?

We set up a welfare system n pay our poor citizens freebies ( both laff in saubrious note )

revolt:
the welfare system destroyed greece! There was a global economic crises, the greeks still wanted the govt to maintain their subsidyz, ofcos the govt crashed. Read up

was the economic woes of Greece and spain
attributed to having a social package for its
citizenry, tell me what I dont knw, you seems to
be uninformed.
let me share your analogy, why didn't countries like
Germany, France, UK, Australia, Sweden, Norway
e.t.c suffer the same faith
for the facts, the economic slump of Greece and
spain is solely attributed to mismanagement of
the economy. greece was even was even
lampooned for spending a humongous scarce
resources hosting the euros some years back

FolarinLondon:


Must I equally reel out with microphone Sir, how many capitalist countries that already collapsed, about to and of course collapsing.......

Be Specific and say nominally capitalist countries with unfeasiblE and unsustainable socialist programmes like the one gmb is proposing or do I need a megaphone to shout that out?

santori:



was the economic woes of Greece and spain attributed to having a social package for its citizenry, tell me what I dont knw, you seems to be uninformed.
let share your analogy, why didn't countries like Germany, France, UK, Australia, Sweden, Norway e.t.c suffer the same faith

for the facts, the economic slump of Greece ans spain is solely attributed to mismanagement of the economy. greece was even was even lampooned for spending a humongous scarce resources hosting the euros some years back

cos uK france etc could sustain it, greece couldn't n they had ppl lilke u tht urged to govt on. Its nt bout welfare systems being bad but obvioysly nigeria cannot sustain tht.

Lemme illustrate~

“Look boss our oil prices are goin down, we've lost our only najor buyer, what do we do? You knw thts our only source of income”.

Boss relplies :

“We set up a welfare system n pay our poor citizens freebie”s ( both laff with salubrious undertone )

With that his lizard head, he can lie. He already identified the weak points of most nigerians ; FREE FOOD AND FREE MONEY.

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santori:



was the economic woes of Greece and spain
attributed to having a social package for its
citizenry, tell me what I dont knw, you seems to
be uninformed.
let me share your analogy, why didn't countries like
Germany, France, UK, Australia, Sweden, Norway
e.t.c suffer the same faith
for the facts, the economic slump of Greece and
spain is solely attributed to mismanagement of
the economy. greece was even was even
lampooned for spending a humongous scarce
resources hosting the euros some years back

moral of the story u embark on a welfare system when there's abundance and introduce austerity measures when there's economic tremors. That's what I'm saying. Aside that how will nigeria budget for its welfare considering statistics is poltically motivated and partisan.

If u concur.

PUSH1:
So what is the fate of the poorest Nigerian family that cannot afford to send their children to school or hardly eat a meal daily.

do u really know he principles of govt and politics? Do u know what a state is? Do u know what patriotism is? Why do we sacrifice soldiers for the survival of state? A man has bout 80yrs to live every state is expected to live forever, to ensure that happens, the economy, sovereignty and unity of that state must be protected. So my friend don't argue politics like a novice......or because of the poor families then the state should collapse right?

U can say tht to greece

abdulll6afh:
All those who comments on this topic are animals I don't know when the southern people will be wise enough u as southerners can U people show one good achivement that jonathan brought to your fucking region let's say buhari have certificate how did he contest previous election without certificate. If he can speak english and represent nigeria that all buhari can speak english morethan southerners. IS southerners that spoil english language in nigeria they bring in pidgin and brokin english to this country we se many southern copers speaking pidgin in norh

Thanks to God for GEJ's almajiri school, you can write a bit in English.
Morafucka, English full of typos and errors, incorrect spelling.
This is what your people breed up north, stark and semi illiterates.
Ride on, while the rest of the country is moving on, your side is trying to even learn English.

FolarinLondon:


Sir! you seem to see the whole welfare system from freebies' perspective but it entails a whole lot more which I won't be able to expatiate on right now cos I m using my right hand to battle and carry out unparallel and unrivalled justice to Eba and Ogbono soup here while my left hand jealously looking at my right hand and unhappily typing

I know a whole lot moRe about welfare systems and their struggles than you think I do, there is the american system, the german system, the scandinavian system and. Many more.........they all have their pros and cons, but they have certain things in common among which are, verifiable statistics in term of people, demographics, economic indiCes, academic studies into impact of policies, social security verification, periodic cost/benefit assessment and general economic impact amOng many other things. It will take more than the constitutionally available 8 years available to buhari to make it work in a democratic government plus you havE to factor in politics And not simply assume the power of the presidency is over reaching as the opposition would play their part and oppose case in point being oBamacare anD the gop/republican resistance in congress in america. Simply put, gmb has not Come out To tell uS how AnD he obviousLy assumes smooth sailing. On his jouRney yo elyssium, I choose to see and acknwoledge the many bumps and forks on these pathway including the looming storm on thE horizon..............


Having Said that, enjoy yOur flexing jare bros

The governor of kano state does something like this so I guess it's possible if he's intentions are really genuine to be honest jonathan has been there for four years what change have we observed and what harm can an old man like buhari do to a country like this

barcanista:
bros I don't care about any EEC nor their fiscal policies or whatever. What happened in Spain, Greece and co wasn't caused by their welfare program, so many factors contributed to their fall. I'm more concerned about Nigeria but not some eu country. Thanks

And this iS why blind Followership only makes people sheep or sheeple as they say in the U.S. For The unelightened, eec stands for the euRopean economic commission in the eurozonE you should care because folks in southern europe tend to have a more relaxed attitudE to work and tend to elect more socialist orIentEd governmEnt Which campaign on nationalistic and right-winged increaSed welfare and reduced tax platforms, look where thEy Are noW... It iS taking the combined strength of the scandinaviAn members of the eu, germany, france and other nothern europeAn countRieS With a differEnt Attitude to woRk anD Welfare to pRop them from SuffEring the looming catAstRophe so maybe you should care and advice your Gmb because if we shoulD collapse, there is no eu to bail us out.

That My President talking, the government cant stop him, darkness cant hold him, PDP cant trash him.
You need him as your leader.
We need change.
#GMB

abdulll6afh:
. No anY southerners teach me since when I am in primary

Illiterate northerner teaching almajiri squad, look at your English.

santori:



was the economic woes of Greece and spain attributed to having a social package for its citizenry, tell me what I dont knw, you seems to be uninformed.
let share your analogy, why didn't countries like Germany, France, UK, Australia, Sweden, Norway e.t.c suffer the same faith

for the facts, the economic slump of Greece ans spain is solely attributed to mismanagement of the economy. greece was even was even lampooned for spending a humongous scarce resources hosting the euros some years back

DiD I hEar you say solEly attributed? Common ..... Welfarism is a concpt About spending on the wrong thingS without a viablE economic returN expectEd.........Since you askeD thE queStion, tell me, why isn't germany for example going through sAme Struggles? And yeS welfarism contributed to greece's collApse (the goverment was spending more than they were earning on recurrent expEnditure like salaries, pensions, benefits alone) the cost of hosting the olympics was just the finAl straw on the proverbial camels back and even that made morE economic. Sense via Sports tourism and All though it was a deficit so get your facts right

lekkie073:

He promised to stabilise global crude oil price.....

He never said "global".... He said he would stabilize "Oil prices".
Now, if you think that is an impossible statement, then l have no right even discussing with you!

You need to get a Dictionary and look up the difference between "Stabilize" and "Increase/Decrease".
You also need to get a good "general education", Economics in particular, to see how "Market Stabilization" is/can be achieved.

I dont like dolts jumping on a topic they know nothing about, just because they are "fuelled" by partisan politics laced with a huge dose of ignorance!

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BraniacX:



I know a whole lot moRe about welfare systems and their struggles than you think I do, there is the american system, the german system, the scandinavian system and. Many more.........they all have their pros and cons, but they have certain things in common among which are, verifiable statistics in term of people, demographics, economic indiCes, academic studies into impact of policies, social security verification, periodic cost/benefit assessment and general economic impact amOng many other things. It will take more than the constitutionally available 8 years available to buhari to make it work in a democratic government plus you havE to factor in politics And not simply assume the power of the presidency is over reaching as the opposition would play their part and oppose case in point being oBamacare anD the gop/republican resistance in congress in america. Simply put, gmb has not Come out To tell uS how AnD he obviousLy assumes smooth sailing. On his jouRney yo elyssium, I choose to see and acknwoledge the many bumps and forks on these pathway including the looming storm on thE horizon..............


Having Said that, enjoy yOur flexing jare bros

My brother, you ve really saved me from what I intend to expatiate on before.................

Everything you wrote up there is nothing but the truth and every bit of it was clearly understood by me

However, I am of opinion that what we as Nigerians should face whatever comes our way in course of getting Nigeria out of economic wilderness; let's get the ball rolling instead of staying with the same system that has failed us for too long

gossipgirl23:
The governor of kano state does something like this so I guess it's possible if he's intentions are really genuine to be honest jonathan has been there for four SIX years what change have we observed and what harm can an old man like buhari do to a country like this

Its actually SIX YEARS!

He used-up the left over TWO years of Yar Ardua, he added his own Four years to it and six years down the line, we are worse that some countries who have been at war for the last ten years!

Jeez! We need to give this Jonathan another TEN YEARS so that we can become like Yemen, Somalia and D.R Congo combined!

Up Jonathan joor! Suffer-Head must continue!!

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Gmajor:
politicians n the greek promises.
How does he intend the sustain it ? Thats another thing i will like to hear

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Despite the fact that allocation from Mr CLUELESS OTUOKE for APC states like OSUN being halved , Aregbesola still feeds schools, gives them free uniforms, opon imo and even though constructions are slow, work is still going on in ever major project

If an Ordinary state governor can implement that, I am sure Buhari as a president can make it work too .

Otuoke has been paying jobless kidnappers and armed robbers whom he pardoned more than 40k per month for oyel money and for laying down thier arms , But he's failed to implement 19k Minimum wage for all real workers

Mind you if Buhari can implement feeding and monthly stipend for poor Nigerians , No administration will find it easy to remove , It takes one man and his mind to make a change


Vote GMB , Vote for Change[/size]

Mogidi:


What's there to ask, the onus is on him to explain where the "phantom" money would come from to actualize his grandiose projects and promises.

whats grandiose about it ? if he gives 100 million poor nigerians 5000 per month, thats only 50 billion naira per month. gej and frog eyes diezani and iweala steal more than that in a day

I'm leaning Buhari but I'm just not ready to be a socialist. These ''free-free-dash-dash'' ideas is a huge mistake and it's wrong for Nigeria. The last thing we need is to begin to encourage a welfare state and the inefficiencies that come with it. It is just highly unsustainable and will be too tough to gut. GMB should be talking more of how to grow the private sector and address infastructure because that's where the real jobs come from.

FolarinLondon:



My brother, you ve really saved me from what I intend to expatiate on before.................

Everything you wrote up there is nothing but the truth and every bit of it was clearly understood by me

However, I am of opinion that what we as Nigerians should face whatever comes our way in course of getting Nigeria out of economic wilderness; let's get the ball rolling instead of staying with the same system that has failed us for too long

Exactly, if we are afraid of starting (or dont even want to bother to start at all), when then are we going to get out of these mess?
The whole world is leaving us behind!
Countries like Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia, Taiwan, e.t.c., all started about the same time Nigeria gots its own independence as well.
See where they are now and compare Nigeria to them..... despite the fact that these countries dont have a litre of "Free-Oil" to energize their economy!

Our greatest problem is CORRUPTION (which "Otuoke Professor" said is "mere stealing"!) and ANY PERSON THAT CAN TAME THAT MONSTER IS WELCOMED TO RULE THIS COUNTRY FOR SOME TIME.

Even if a "He-GOAT" can tame corruption in Nigeria, l want that ewu-Goat to rule Nigeria for four years. I dont care whether the Goat is Muslim, Christiam, Igbo, Yoruba or has a PhD in economics.
What l need now is a "strong-minded and disciplined leader".

On detailed analysis, GMB fits that profile far more than Jonathan. Period!
This is why l will chose GMB over Jonathan.
If you replace Jonathan with someone like that Cross River state Governor or Gov. Fashola, then l will chose them over GMB. Its all logic.

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WhiteTechnology:



#5000 every month for 25million people each is the height of economic illiteracy when you realise it will amount to #1.5tr per year

After spending that money on feeding, the kids will grow up still be fed because money that could have being used to create jobs was spent feeding them.


Buhari is an economic illiterate


SW RONU

this guy you be real illiterate. how did you get trillion from multiplying 25 million by 5000 ?

lastpage:

He never said "global".... He said he would stabilize "Oil prices".
Now, if you think that is an impossible statement, then l have no right even discussing with you!
You need to get a Dictionary and look up the difference between "Stabilize" and "Increase/Decrease".
You also need to get a good "general education", Economics in particular, to see how "Market Stabilization" is/can be achieved.
I dont like dolts jumping on a topic they know nothing about, just because they are "fuelled" by partisan politics laced with a huge dose of ignorance!
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He cannot stabilize any crude oil price. Jimmy Carter couldn't stabilize crude oil prices even when the success of his re-election campaign depended on it. What leverage does GMB have on the other suppliers of petroleum resources? None.

sukkot:
this guy you be real illiterate. how did you get trillion from multiplying 25 million by 5000 ?

u must be a fool...125 billion times 12 for months is what .do the math

gokuu:
I'm leaning Buhari but I'm just not ready to be a socialist. These ''free-free-dash-dash'' ideas is a huge mistake and it's wrong for Nigeria. The last thing we need is to begin to encourage a welfare state and the inefficiencies that come with it. It is just highly unsustainable and will be too tough to gut. GMB should be talking more of how to grow the private sector and address infastructure because that's where the real jobs come from.

You are right PRODUCTION AND JOBS is the KEY......... but the current situation of Nigeria is like "When trees fall on each other, you remove the 'top-most' FIRST"!
Poverty is making people sell their conscience!

Our Political leaders "deliberately" impoverish our people so that it can be easy for them to get manipulated, based on "One Muudu of Rice and a gallon of groundnut Oil"! Just imagine..... voting based on two things that are so cheap and basic to survival?

When you remove "abject poverty", using social engineering like "Welfare sustenance".... The people are then put in a position to "assert their rights" in any situation.

Let me sight an example: Every time people go out to protest a "bad govt policy", you would notice two things:

1.) In the "welfare states" of Europe and America, they can sustain this protest for weeks, until Govt gives-in to their request

2.) In Nigeria, that protest lasts barely TWO DAYS and fizzles out!
People have to go back to their "source of living" (Shops, Work, Trade, e.t.c)

If you have tried like me, to "dissect" the reason for such "cowardly attitude" (?), you will realize that it is because there is "No Social Cushion" for the Nigerian masses, compared to their say European counterparts who can still EAT, SLEEP IN A HOUSE, ENJOY ELECTRICITY, EDUCATE THEIR CHILDREN, e.t.c .... despite their Protest lasting for a Month!

Their Nigerian counterpart, inflicted with "abject poverty" and devoid of any "Welfare or Social Security" would have ene long-dead and buried within one Week!

That my friend, is why l think it is a right "baby-step", in the right direction.
"Poverty makes an animal of an otherwise decent humanbeing"

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NB: As to how he will fund it, l tell you, if you know the amount of "looting and mis-management" that goes on inthe Nigerian system (Did NNPC not just "disappear 20Billion Dollars recently?), you will agree with me that we have the resources to do it..... if only we can plug the leaks, as is done in those foreign countries.

Jonathan does not have the mental capacity nor the courage and willingness to tackle corruption.
GMB (judging by his record when he was head of State with Idiagbon) has shown the[b] "willingness and capacity" to do so.

As a "rational person", I will hedge my bets with him for now. [/b]