jnrbayano:


It is not in my habit. Anytime I must have utterred such, I usually feel bad about it.

I avoid saying such.

That's good

italo:


I dont think you should be having a "misunderstanding" with him. I think you should break up with him now. Because you cannot leave the Catholic faith and he has said he wont let you stay in it.

Receive communion in the hand so that you can hold Jesus...then go hold your "guy" in your hands.

Whom do you choose?

Hmmm

italo:

I dont think you should be having a "misunderstanding" with him. I think you should break up with him now. Because you cannot leave the Catholic faith and he has said he wont let you stay in it.
Receive communion in the hand so that you can hold Jesus...then go hold your "guy" in your hands.
Whom do you choose?

Ok. Thanks italo

deracathy:
Hmmmm. Ok
Noted, Thanks very much.

It's well with you.

Welcome.

From the CCC

II. TAKING THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN

2150 The second commandment forbids false oaths. Taking an oath or swearing is to take God as witness to what one affirms. It is to invoke the divine truthfulness as a pledge of one's own truthfulness. An oath engages the Lord's name. "You shall fear the LORD your God; you shall serve him, and swear by his name."81

2151 Rejection of false oaths is a duty toward God. As Creator and Lord, God is the norm of all truth. Human speech is either in accord with or in opposition to God who is Truth itself. When it is truthful and legitimate, an oath highlights the relationship of human speech with God's truth. A false oath calls on God to be witness to a lie.

2152 A person commits perjury when he makes a promise under oath with no intention of keeping it, or when after promising on oath he does not keep it. Perjury is a grave lack of respect for the Lord of all speech. Pledging oneself by oath to commit an evil deed is contrary to the holiness of the divine name.

2153 In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus explained the second commandment: "You have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.' But I say to you, Do not swear at all. . . . Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from the evil one."82 Jesus teaches that every oath involves a reference to God and that God's presence and his truth must be honored in all speech. Discretion in calling upon God is allied with a respectful awareness of his presence, which all our assertions either witness to or mock.

2154 Following St. Paul,83 the tradition of the Church has understood Jesus' words as not excluding oaths made for grave and right reasons (for example, in court). "An oath, that is the invocation of the divine name as a witness to truth, cannot be taken unless in truth, in judgment, and in justice."84

2155 The holiness of the divine name demands that we neither use it for trivial matters, nor take an oath which on the basis of the circumstances could be interpreted as approval of an authority unjustly requiring it. When an oath is required by illegitimate civil authorities, it may be refused. It must be refused when it is required for purposes contrary to the dignity of persons or to ecclesial communion

Sal C, Ubenedictus, Rich4god, Jnrbayano...pls read and see if it's clear enough.

SalC:
Looks like your mind is made up already

Totally made up.
Missing out in the blessings from the holy Eucharistic celebration each day for the rest of my Life ? Noo, I can't imagine that.

jnrbayano:

It's well with you.
Welcome.

And with your spirit.
Thanks

italo:
From the CCC

II. TAKING THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN

2150 The second commandment forbids false oaths. Taking an oath or swearing is to take God as witness to what one affirms. It is to invoke the divine truthfulness as a pledge of one's own truthfulness. An oath engages the Lord's name. "You shall fear the LORD your God; you shall serve him, and swear by his name."81

2151 Rejection of false oaths is a duty toward God. As Creator and Lord, God is the norm of all truth. Human speech is either in accord with or in opposition to God who is Truth itself. When it is truthful and legitimate, an oath highlights the relationship of human speech with God's truth. A false oath calls on God to be witness to a lie.

2152 A person commits perjury when he makes a promise under oath with no intention of keeping it, or when after promising on oath he does not keep it. Perjury is a grave lack of respect for the Lord of all speech. Pledging oneself by oath to commit an evil deed is contrary to the holiness of the divine name.

2153 In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus explained the second commandment: "You have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.' But I say to you, Do not swear at all. . . . Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from the evil one."82 Jesus teaches that every oath involves a reference to God and that God's presence and his truth must be honored in all speech. Discretion in calling upon God is allied with a respectful awareness of his presence, which all our assertions either witness to or mock.

2154 Following St. Paul,83 the tradition of the Church has understood Jesus' words as not excluding oaths made for grave and right reasons (for example, in court). "An oath, that is the invocation of the divine name as a witness to truth, cannot be taken unless in truth, in judgment, and in justice."84

2155 The holiness of the divine name demands that we neither use it for trivial matters, nor take an oath which on the basis of the circumstances could be interpreted as approval of an authority unjustly requiring it. When an oath is required by illegitimate civil authorities, it may be refused. It must be refused when it is required for purposes contrary to the dignity of persons or to ecclesial communion

Sal C, Ubenedictus, Rich4god, Jnrbayano...pls read and see if it's clear enough.

Oyibo di there dikwa too much o

Thanks Italo

deracathy:


Ok. Thanks italo

You're welcome. It is very difficult...but many have left the ones they love because of Jesus and his Catholic Church.

Me too.

We cannot choose man...in place of the God-Jesus-Eucharist who gave us the man in the first place.

Blessed are all who fear the Lord,  who walk in obedience to him. You will eat the fruit of your labor;  blessings and prosperity will be yours. Ps 128:1-2

May this day be specially blessed for you as you go about your today's activities

Good morning brethren and do have a blessed day ahead

italo:
From the CCC

II. TAKING THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN

2150 The second commandment forbids false oaths. Taking an oath or swearing is to take God as witness to what one affirms. It is to invoke the divine truthfulness as a pledge of one's own truthfulness. An oath engages the Lord's name. "You shall fear the LORD your God; you shall serve him, and swear by his name."81

2151 Rejection of false oaths is a duty toward God. As Creator and Lord, God is the norm of all truth. Human speech is either in accord with or in opposition to God who is Truth itself. When it is truthful and legitimate, an oath highlights the relationship of human speech with God's truth. A false oath calls on God to be witness to a lie.

2152 A person commits perjury when he makes a promise under oath with no intention of keeping it, or when after promising on oath he does not keep it. Perjury is a grave lack of respect for the Lord of all speech. Pledging oneself by oath to commit an evil deed is contrary to the holiness of the divine name.

2153 In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus explained the second commandment: "You have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.' But I say to you, Do not swear at all. . . . Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from the evil one."82 Jesus teaches that every oath involves a reference to God and that God's presence and his truth must be honored in all speech. Discretion in calling upon God is allied with a respectful awareness of his presence, which all our assertions either witness to or mock.

2154 Following St. Paul,83 the tradition of the Church has understood Jesus' words as not excluding oaths made for grave and right reasons (for example, in court). "An oath, that is the invocation of the divine name as a witness to truth, cannot be taken unless in truth, in judgment, and in justice."84

2155 The holiness of the divine name demands that we neither use it for trivial matters, nor take an oath which on the basis of the circumstances could be interpreted as approval of an authority unjustly requiring it. When an oath is required by illegitimate civil authorities, it may be refused. It must be refused when it is required for purposes contrary to the dignity of persons or to ecclesial communion

Sal C, Ubenedictus, Rich4god, Jnrbayano...pls read and see if it's clear enough.

It seems this is almost thesame as what Striktlymi said,
Will be back to digest it

Rich4god where did you hide Kamsified?

Happy happy new year my people!!

SalC:
Rich4god where did you hide Kamsified?

I have been looking for a maid... Her schedule combined with domestic work is too much for her, so no time to come online...

italo:
From the CCC

II. TAKING THE NAME OF THE LORD IN VAIN

2150 The second commandment forbids false oaths. Taking an oath or swearing is to take God as witness to what one affirms. It is to invoke the divine truthfulness as a pledge of one's own truthfulness. An oath engages the Lord's name. "You shall fear the LORD your God; you shall serve him, and swear by his name."81

2151 Rejection of false oaths is a duty toward God. As Creator and Lord, God is the norm of all truth. Human speech is either in accord with or in opposition to God who is Truth itself. When it is truthful and legitimate, an oath highlights the relationship of human speech with God's truth. A false oath calls on God to be witness to a lie.

2152 A person commits perjury when he makes a promise under oath with no intention of keeping it, or when after promising on oath he does not keep it. Perjury is a grave lack of respect for the Lord of all speech. Pledging oneself by oath to commit an evil deed is contrary to the holiness of the divine name.

2153 In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus explained the second commandment: "You have heard that it was said to the men of old, 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform to the Lord what you have sworn.' But I say to you, Do not swear at all. . . . Let what you say be simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything more than this comes from the evil one."82 Jesus teaches that every oath involves a reference to God and that God's presence and his truth must be honored in all speech. Discretion in calling upon God is allied with a respectful awareness of his presence, which all our assertions either witness to or mock.

2154 Following St. Paul,83 the tradition of the Church has understood Jesus' words as not excluding oaths made for grave and right reasons (for example, in court). "An oath, that is the invocation of the divine name as a witness to truth, cannot be taken unless in truth, in judgment, and in justice."84

2155 The holiness of the divine name demands that we neither use it for trivial matters, nor take an oath which on the basis of the circumstances could be interpreted as approval of an authority unjustly requiring it. When an oath is required by illegitimate civil authorities, it may be refused. It must be refused when it is required for purposes contrary to the dignity of persons or to ecclesial communion

Sal C, Ubenedictus, Rich4god, Jnrbayano...pls read and see if it's clear enough.

yeah, it is clear the church allows true oaths, i take exception to the circumstance of the oath in question and its implication.

I'll certainly not allow anyone i know to swear on a grave during witch hunts. I do not advise any christian to participate in such witch hunt and swearing on graves is usually based upon the superstition of ghost physically exerting vengance.

To the question asked, i do not support such oaths, i am not a pagan and i donot believe oaths should be based on graves or that christians should participate in accusing each other of mysterious muder.

Question

Someone said to me, "I want to become a Catholic but I don't want to pray the rosary, will that make me an incomplete Catholic?"

What will be your answer if a non-catholic inquire such from you?
Is there any official stance of the church as regards such a person or his case?

SalC:
Question

Someone said to me, "I want to become a Catholic but I don't want to pray the rosary, will that make me an incomplete Catholic?"

What will be your answer if a non-catholic inquire such from you?
Is there any official stance of the church as regards such a person or his case?

Well, I have never come across any teaching that says "praying the rosary is compulsory for all catholics"... Though as a catholic, you cant run away frm it as you may one day be part of a program where the rosary has to be said. So for me, I will try and let him knw the importance and benefit of the rosary, but he is free to decide whether to say it or not.

I will praise you, Lord my God, with all my heart; I will glorify your name forever. For great is your love toward me;  you have delivered me from the depths, from the realm of the dead. Ps 86:12-13

When we look around us, the everyday occurrences, how we get miraculously saved from sudden harm, how God provide for us and make a way where there seems to be no way. We see more than enough reasons to thank and praise God for his wonderful deeds.

God has been gracious to us, seeing us safely through last year into this new year.
We pray that this year will be even better than the previous years in every aspect of our lives.

Good morning brethren and do have a blessed day ahead.

Rich4god:
Well, I have never come across any teaching that says "praying the rosary is compulsory for all catholics"... Though as a catholic, you cant run away frm it as you may one day be part of a program where the rosary has to be said. So for me, I will try and let him knw the importance and benefit of the rosary, but he is free to decide whether to say it or not.

Yes he will most definitely meet such occasions, what he's saying is that he won't own a rosary or pray it on his own, he seems to like a lot of catholic practices but doesn't like the idea of praying the rosary, so he is concern if he converts without saying the rosary, will that make him any less Catholic as almost all the Catholics he knows very well seems to have this fondness for saying the rosary.

SalC:
Question

Someone said to me, "I want to become a Catholic but I don't want to pray the rosary, will that make me an incomplete Catholic?"

What will be your answer if a non-catholic inquire such from you?
Is there any official stance of the church as regards such a person or his case?

It's all about dialogue.

Ask the person if he can tell his reasons for not wanting to pray it.

Rosary is neither a dogma nor a doctrine in the catholic church.

SalC:
Yes he will most definitely meet such occasions, what he's saying is that he won't own a rosary or pray it on his own, he seems to like a lot of catholic practices but doesn't like the idea of praying the rosary, so he is concern if he converts without saying the rosary, will that make him any less Catholic as almost all the Catholics he knows very well seems to have this fondness for saying the rosary.

Not saying the rosary wont make him any less a catholic... Am pretty sure that there are so many catholics that dont say the rosary, not because they dont want to, but probably because its not the type of prayer he/she is used to. So for me, I will tell him its no big deal if he decide not to say it. But am pretty sure that by the time he becomes a full and better catholic, he will get to love the rosary.

jnrbayano:


It's all about dialogue.

Ask the person if he can tell his reasons for not wanting to pray it.

Rosary is neither a dogma nor a doctrine in the catholic church.

His reasons are the usual thing we hear, it is being addressed more to Mary and he doesn't like the idea of "counting beads" in prayers.

Rich4god:
Not saying the rosary wont make him any less a catholic... Am pretty sure that there are so many catholics that dont say the rosary, not because they dont want to, but probably because its not the type of prayer he/she is used to. So for me, I will tell him its no big deal if he decide not to say it. But am pretty sure that by the time he becomes a full and better catholic, he will get to love the rosary.

Yes I pray so too

SalC:
Question

Someone said to me, "I want to become a Catholic but I don't want to pray the rosary, will that make me an incomplete Catholic?"

What will be your answer if a non-catholic inquire such from you?
Is there any official stance of the church as regards such a person or his case?

hehehe,

i happen to know catholics who don't pray the rosary, i belive they are missing something because the rosary is a powerful prayer, its vocal, meditative and can even be contemplative. The rosary is my school of prayer. I could go on and on!

But yeah, i believe one can be a catholic without having to constantly pray the rosary though i will be impossible to escape the rosary all together.

On the other hand, it is not possible to be fully and trully catholic without venerating mary and the saints. One way or the other devotion to mary will come back to knock on your doors.

I Think when a catholic refuses to pray the rosary he is missing alot. Why should someone ride a bike when he could fly a helicopter?

^^nice one

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Please come in and wish a happy new year to our brethren.

Ignore if you already have

jnrbayano:


Please come in and wish a happy new year to our brethren.

Ignore if you already have

*just read ur signature*.... Do what...?

Am really missing my zing.... :-(

jnrbayano:


Please come in and wish a happy new year to our brethren.

Ignore if you already have

Isn't it bad enough that am the only regular here who don't ever get a mention when such multiple mentions take place? Smh
Why nah

Rich4god:
Am really missing my zing.... :-(

Ehya sorry nah

SalC:
Isn't it bad enough that am the only regular here who don't ever get a mention when such multiple mentions take place? Smh
Why nah

Ndooo!

It shall never happen again.

It has been modified

Rich4god:
*just read ur signature*.... Do what...?

......Shall we be friends?