DieVluit:


No, my friend. There is something wrong with YOUR military.

There has been and will continue to be a proliferation of weapons in that region.

Are you telling us that you do not and have not and are not capable of having your destiny in your own hands?

You cannot ever defeat Boko Haram until the bad people make it stop with raining weapons down on the region?

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

So now, shall we add this to your list of escudos as to why you can't deal with BH? Talking Bkut progress. It is Boko Haram that has achieved progress. Remember where they started? See where they are now. Your own situation has deteriorated.

Listen, Henry...Nigeria never knew anything about COIN.

You yourself told us that you are facing a semi-conventional war in places. It's NO LONGER COIN, you said. Your own words. Those words, coupled with the above, paint the picture of a clueless land that was never in control.

You are a lost cause.

Imagine South-Africa falling into chaos, in the same manner as libya, what would the chaos in South-Africa do to the security of Zimbabwe or mozambique battling a rebellion in their own country?

COIN is new to the Nigerian military, at no point did the military claim it was experienced in COIN, I don't know what you're blabbing on about.

Boko-haram has achieved no progress. Reporting on an attack on a remote base, while scores of insurgents were taken out, is like over-exagerating the importance of a tricycle when same person has a rolls-royce.

NaijaPikinGidi:


Obviously this is a no contest. In deed a fact!

Lost fathers! Lost generation! Lost country!!

Hopeless South Africa/ns.

[size=18pt]

Lost girls, coward fathers, lost oil revenues = Negroids in the Delta jungles. [/size]

Henry120:


You are a lost cause.

Imagine South-Africa falling into chaos, in the same manner as libya, what would the chaos in South-Africa do to the security of Zimbabwe or mozambique battling a rebellion in their own country?

COIN is new to the Nigerian military, at no point did the military claim it was experienced in COIN, I don't know what you're blabbing on about.

Boko-haram has achieved no progress. Reporting on an attack on a remote base, while scores of insurgents were taken out, is like over-exagerating the importance of a tricycle when same person has a rolls-royce.

Boko controls towns, they're are preaching Islamic law as we speak... they banged your virgin girls while your soldiers run like the cowards they're.

Boko Haram is successful, just years back they were underground but now they run a juicy portion of Nigeria equivalent to the UK (as you always claim).

NaijaPikinGidi:


Tell that to your popular Khumbula Ekhaya TV show ... You donate sperms to every unfortunate woman at each Bus Stop ... reason most South African children grow up asking for help on TV shows to find their missing/absent/unknown fathers. In fact your LANCET Labs struggle everyday attending to DNA paternity testing!

You want stats and figures?

Give figures and Nigerias figures and lets compare. Nah but I forgot you cant keep any records in nigeria , you are only good at manipulating numbers, e.g GDP.

Should they make similar show in nigeria, what do you think would happen since you guys fvck a lot, I mean even nature cant keep up with numbers of aborted, abandoned, over populated kids, and grown up mofos like you.

mzilakazi:



MANDELA SAVED THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA FROM MILITARY PRISON AND THABO MBEKI INTRODUCED DEMOCRACY AND HELPED THEM TO DRAUGHT THEIR CONSTITUTION WHICH IS THE COPY OF RSA CONSTITUTION.

mumu, mandela was still in prison cursing and begging to be released. years after the African Titan aroused from her colonial slumber. No American or white leader visited him in prison while he ws a jail bird a nigerian leader did. But years later when he got free the prison cell of the abandoned jail bird became a tourist center for white folks to come and pay penance for the injustice they ve caused you guys. Obama even had the mind to visit that prison and confess all sort of motivational jargons.
Nigeria led south Africa not to her independence but to her true freedom. The book a long walk to freedom will never find its way into my library. Unlike other African heroes that fought in the liberation movement, nelson mandela wrote more about his perceived efforts and his personal woes than the efforts of other partners or the woes of other fellow fighters in that book, the book a long walk to freedom is dubious and ill constructed designed to immortalise a single man. Who by some stroke of luck and coincidence found himself in a favourable position with history.

Henry120:

You are a lost cause.
Imagine South-Africa falling into chaos, in the same manner as libya, what would the chaos in South-Africa do to the security of Zimbabwe or mozambique battling a rebellion in their own country?
COIN is new to the Nigerian military, at no point did the military claim it was experienced in COIN, I don't know what you're blabbing on about.
Boko-haram has achieved no progress. Reporting on an attack on a remote base, while scores of insurgents were taken out, is like over-exagerating the importance of a tricycle when same person has a rolls-royce.

The lost cause here is the Nigerian military.

Boko haram progress to date:

1. Forced the nigerian military from COIN to conventional.
2. Grew from Koran thumbing jokers to fearsome killers.
3. Grew from jokers to holders of territory in nigeria.
4. Had the nigerian government spending billions to fund an internal war.
5. Had the nigerian military killing its own soldiers.
6. Had the nigerian political elite under immense pressure with questions from the public.
7. Planted chaos.
8. They EXIST still.
9. Captured bases.
10. Exposed the military's cowardice and lack of organisation.
11. Has already upset this years vote in the borno north.

... The list goes on and on.

You've failed to stop them, my man. You've failed.

COIN is now new? You are no longer "experts"?

Libya's insecurity has not affected Senegal for example. It has not affected The Gambia. It has not affected other countries in the same way that it has affected Nigeria. Please bra, the issue lies with your military, which has been utterly embarrassing.

mzilakazi:



WHAT ABOUT NUCLEAR REACTORS THAT ARE ESTIMATED TO COST SOUTH AFRICA A WHOOPING $100 BILLION?

SOUTH AFRICA IS MOVING FORWARD.



HAMBA MZANSI!!!!

Syabangena... We shall sell them our surplus electricity, these people do not know how to run a country.

kgr28:


Give figures and Nigerias figures and lets compare. Nah but I forgot you cant keep any records in nigeria , you are only good at manipulating numbers, e.g GDP.

Should they make similar show in nigeria, what do you think would happen since you guys fvck a lot, I mean even nature cant keep up with numbers of aborted, abandoned, over populated kids, and grown up mofos like you.

Can you Imagine, they have over 40 million kids that are supposed to be at primary school.... that's a disaster for their underfunded education department.

DieVluit:


The lost cause here is the Nigerian military.

Boko haram progress to date:

1. Forced the nigerian military from COIN to conventional.
2. Grew from Koran thumbing jokers to fearsome killers.
3. Grew from jokers to holders of territory in nigeria.
4. Had the nigerian government spending billions to fund an internal war.
5. Had the nigerian military killing its own soldiers.
6. Had the nigerian political elite under immense pressure with questions from the public.
7. Planted chaos.
8. They EXIST still.
9. Captured bases.
10. Exposed the military's cowardice and lack of organisation.
11. Has already upset this years vote in the borno north.

... The list goes on and on.

You've failed to stop them, my man. You've failed.

COIN is now new? You are no longer "experts"?

Libya's insecurity has not affected Senegal for example. It has not affected The Gambia. It has not affected other countries in the same way that it has affected Nigeria. Please bra, the issue lies with your military, which has been utterly embarrassing.

10/10 post

overhypedsteve:
mumu, mandela was still in prison cursing and begging to be released. years after the African Titan aroused from her colonial slumber. No American or white leader visited him in prison while he ws a jail bird a nigerian leader did. But years later when he got free the prison cell of the abandoned jail bird became a tourist center for white folks to come and pay penance for the injustice they ve caused you guys. Obama even had the mind to visit that prison and confess all sort of motivational jargons.
Nigeria led south Africa not to her independence but to her true freedom. The book a long walk to freedom will never find its way into my library. Unlike other African heroes that fought in the liberation movement, nelson mandela wrote more about his perceived efforts and his personal woes than the efforts of other partners or the woes of other fellow fighters in that book, the book a long walk to freedom is dubious and ill constructed designed to immortalise a single man. Who by some stroke of luck and coincidence found himself in a favourable position with history.

How do you know what Mandela wrote about if the book will never find its way to your "library"?

How come no Nigerian hero has through some stroke of luck found himself in a similar position? You have more people and have seen everything from coups to wars, yet you have no heroes?

All this anger because we said your flag is a flag of cowards?

Well, tell us about your stories of freedom and list your heroes. You have nothing WORTH NOTING.

You led no one, least of all yourselves.

You are indeed a nation of cowards and the green and white is the flag of cowards.

and the Nigerians leave again

DieVluit:


You mean while "Oliver Tambo" led the struggle?

No young lion even knew of the very existence of nigeria's leader's but the young Lions sang:

"Siyaya eLusaka"

No one sang "Siyaya eLagos".

Nigeria couldn't even free itself from military rule. Let alone freeing others. How many countries did Mandela visit?

Apartheid fell because of two things:

1. Sanctions and
2. Internal unrest.

Nigeria doesn't feature there or anywhere at all.

You hyped Mandela up because you wish for Nigeria to be associated with him. But Sorry baba, you aren't top mind when South africans think of countries that helped.

Nigeria has no stories of freedom anyway. No heroes. All countries that have a firm identity today have stories of freedom. Countries that value who they are fought for who they are. From Europe to AmericA to Africa. Nigeria is not on the list.

That's why you're after the heroes of other nations.

your words are the words of a " casual ignoramus" Nigeria nationalized British petroleum, baclay bank, banned south Africa from participating in sporting activity in Africa and receive and embraced your exiled freedom fighters. We moved for the freedom of south Africa at all possible levels.
listen up mate. Nobody cared about your ancestors black a55( if the brits did they wont have sold you off to the boers by signing the act of union 1910) nobody wanted to be seen fighting for the freedom of the bushmen in south Africa, all they wanted was your gold and diamond and this they were getting in abundance under the boer government. You think the white care about you? No they don't. I would understand if you talk about African countries but please stop deceiving yourself by mentioning the whites or the Rusks nd chinks, very soon you will tell me Nazi Germany fought for your freedom i feel really sorry for you young man. You know nothing about your nations history. And its too sad that you ve made futile attempts to sound enlightened.

GreenandGold:
and the Nigerians leave again

Are you white?

agaugust:

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Yet 15 million South Africans get 0 MW of electricity per day.....black on black apartheid [/size]
.

That's a green lie.


SA has only 1.45 million households without access to electricity which are informal settlement occupied by foreigners


http://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article/11-of-sa-households-still-without-electricity-2013-11-14

http://www.southafrica.info/about/social/electricity-151113.htm

http://www.sanews.gov.za/south-africa/electricity-connections-50-10-years-–-survey

agaugust:


Are you white?

What's your problem agububu?

DieVluit:


The lost cause here is the Nigerian military.

Boko haram progress to date:

1. Forced the nigerian military from COIN to conventional.
2. Grew from Koran thumbing jokers to fearsome killers.
3. Grew from jokers to holders of territory in nigeria.
4. Had the nigerian government spending billions to fund an internal war.
5. Had the nigerian military killing its own soldiers.
6. Had the nigerian political elite under immense pressure with questions from the public.
7. Planted chaos.
8. They EXIST still.
9. Captured bases.
10. Exposed the military's cowardice and lack of organisation.
11. Has already upset this years vote in the borno north.

... The list goes on and on.

You've failed to stop them, my man. You've failed.

COIN is now new? You are no longer "experts"?

Libya's insecurity has not affected Senegal for example. It has not affected The Gambia. It has not affected other countries in the same way that it has affected Nigeria. Please bra, the issue lies with your military, which has been utterly embarrassing.

I'm done with you.

You are mentioning Gambia and Senegal, do they have the same religious or political extremes like Nigeria?

Why did you leave out the rebellion in mali?

Let me add, in 2009, B-H led by yusuf had killed over 400 people. They didn't start murdering civilians in 2015.

They didn't go about thumbing korans in 2015 you w@nker.

overhypedsteve:
mumu, mandela was still in prison cursing and begging to be released. years after the African Titan aroused from her colonial slumber. No American or white leader visited him in prison while he ws a jail bird a nigerian leader did. But years later when he got free the prison cell of the abandoned jail bird became a tourist center for white folks to come and pay penance for the injustice they ve caused you guys. Obama even had the mind to visit that prison and confess all sort of motivational jargons.
Nigeria led south Africa not to her independence but to her true freedom. The book a long walk to freedom will never find its way into my library. Unlike other African heroes that fought in the liberation movement, nelson mandela wrote more about his perceived efforts and his personal woes than the efforts of other partners or the woes of other fellow fighters in that book, the book a long walk to freedom is dubious and ill constructed designed to immortalise a single man. Who by some stroke of luck and coincidence found himself in a favourable position with history.

Stop smoking our own shiit, no Africans were allowed in SA then except those who were working in mines. Madibas family were not even allowed to visit him, and also his comrades, now do you think a Nigerian will be allowed?? there was no even Nigerian embassy then. now wtf are you talking about. You didn't lead SA to shyt, if you did something what did southern countries do people who actually did something. and you cant hear them bittching we did this and that.

NIGERIA IS NO WERE IN HISTORY BOOKS FOR HELPING SA, YOU GOT LIED TO BY YOUR BLACK GOV, WHILE THEY KEEP CHOPING YOUR OIL MONEY.

Henry120:


I'm done with you.

You are mentioning Gambia and Senegal, do they have the same religious or political extremes like Nigeria?

Why did you leave out the rebellion in mali?

Let me add, in 2009, B-H led by yusuf had killed over 400 people. They didn't start murdering civilians in 2015.

They didn't go about thumbing korans in 2015 you w@nker.

Stop using religion as an excuse.... Egypt, Algeria and other Islamic countries crush extremism without any problem.

Henry120:


I'm done with you.

You are mentioning Gambia and Senegal, do they have the same religious or political extremes like Nigeria?

Why did you leave out the rebellion in mali?

Let me add, in 2009, B-H led by yusuf had killed over 400 people. They didn't start murdering civilians in 2015.

They didn't go about thumbing korans in 2015 you w@nker.

Oh so now religion is the problem? Thought the problem was the flow of guns?

Now that its been shown that the flow of weapons has not affected other countries in the same way, the problem is now something else?

My friend, you can run from it from here to the moon. Your anger could even part the red sea. But you'll come back to the same thing.

The problem is with your military. That is the simple truth baba. We won't lie to you. We are all family here.

I listed 12 instances of Boko haram progress and you wang to tell me about how many people BH murdered under Yusuf? Well let's talk about that.

You were brave enough to capture and murder Yusuf in captivity. The last video of him showed him to be willing to speak, at least. There were no excuses then. Now you have a gazillion excuses from the direction of the wind to the price of rice in china? Man, BH 0.1 were a joke. They were nothing but a Koran thumping outfit. They had military formation. Now that things have gotten tough, you have stories.

Why did I leave the rebellion in Mali out? I left many countries out. But now, does Mali claim to be one of the best in Africa? Mali? Or have they accepted their haplessness and asked for help from the UN? So, this is where you need to be too? Ok, so when will you ask for help?

Accept it, my man. BH has grown in leaps and bounds under your watch. You on the other hand, have shrivelled into a joke.

DieVluit:


Oh so now religion is the problem? Thought the problem was the flow of guns?

Now that its been shown that yhw flow of weapons has not affected other countries, the problem is now something else?

My friend, you can run from it from here to the moon. Your anger could even part the red sea. But you'll come back to the same thing.

The problem is with your military. That is the simple truth baba. We won't lie to you. We are all family here.

I listed 12 instances of Boko haram progress and you wang to tell me about how many people BH murdered under Yusuf? Well let's talk about that.

You were brave enough to capture and murder Yusuf in captivity. The last video of him showed him to be willing to speak. There were no excuses then. Now you have a gazillion excuses from the direction of the wind to the price of rice in china? Man, BH 0.1 were a joke. Now that things have gotten tough, you have stories.

Why did I leave the rebellion in Mali out? Do they claim to be one of the best in Africa? Mali? Or have they accepted their haplessness and asked for help from the UN? So, this is where you need to be too? Ok, so when will you ask for help?

You're a retarrd.

It feels like a debating with a wall/ or patches. Irreasonable !!

Algeria battled islamist from 1991-2004 on a large scale, and still continues to battle multiple pockets of islamist to this day.

I've educated you on the history of extremism in Nigeria, the heightened proliferation of arms into this conflict due to the situation in libya, the progress Nigeria has and continues to make in it's COIN efforts.

At this point, as always, what you choose to believe is entirely your problem.

agaugust:


Please kindly overwhelm us with current news of current war SANDF is fighting, so that we can compare two armies at war
.

Burundi rebels have been pushed back after they started launching attacks
http://ewn.co.za/2015/01/06/UN-Congo-attack-Burundi-rebels

A new offensive against FDLR is about to be launched
http://www.enca.com/africa/un-says-its-troops-and-congo-will-launch-offensive-rebels

Henry120:


You're a retarrd.

It feels like a debating with a wall/ or patches. Irreasonable !!

Algeria battled islamist from 1991-2004 on large scale, and still continues to battle multiple pockets of islamist to this day.

I've educated you on the history of extremism in Nigeria, the heightened proliferation of arms into this conflict due to the situation in libya, the progress Nigeria has and continues to make in it's COIN efforts.

At this point, as always, what you choose to believe is entirely your problem.

Kai my priend! Dis one you I dey tok am ... na pery fawapul tok! Ka ji kwo? Pery good to go!

agaugust:


So SANDF was ambushed outside base, how many of your men? SANDF was defending base when attacked, how many soldiers did you have? One battalion? Southies are making conflicting claims of where your army was located and if your are in the 3 different locations as claimed by different South African versions of the story, how are 80 SANDF men able to survive 1,000 seleka attackers in different locations?

You see why every intelligent person knows the Seleka story as told by South Africans is a bunch of fraud loaded lies !

Only a fool will believe South African versions.

Dude, why are you so wastfull of precious time?

Two roads went into bangui

Two recon teams were ambushed on the two roads

re-enforcements were sent to get them out

they were pushed back to the base

final stage of the battle took place around the base

We did not have a battalion, we had 200 men.

agaugust:


After running out of bullets? What did you use to fight? Your Dickies?
.

Nothing, Seleka had suffered such terrible casualties they offered a cease-fire

They didnt know we had low ammo

On power, this is what Nigeria generates.




Dangote Group, Honeywell, BUA Group and other cement, food and beverage manufacturing plants across the country are generating over 15,000 megawatts of electricity that are not in the national grid.

This was disclosed by the President and Chief Executive Officer of General Electric (GE) Nigeria, Dr. Lazarus Angbazo, at the weekend when speaking to journalists in Lagos.

Angbazo stated that this 15,000mw captive power sustains the operations of these private companies.

He said captive power was one area of the power sector where the Nigerian market was in its maturity, stressing that the installed capacity on the national grid and the installed capacity off-grid was estimated to be nearly equal.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/



Nigeria has an installed power generation of about 15,000 MW, the installed infrastructure can only carry 5000MW.

In total Nigeria produces over 30,000 MW of power from both Big private companies like BUA, Honeywell, Ibeto, G.E, and the Federal government.

This excludes power generated by individual citizens.


If we are to actually calculate power generated in the individual countries and compare both, Nigeria does actually generate more power than South-Africa.

agaugust:


BTR-4 is modular and easy to up-armour to resist RPG, then the weight increases to 27 tons. I posted that proof on tanknutdave website, I won't repeat it. Who cares about your lies when you are sick with envy?

No single source says it is modular

Upgrade is not easy as it involves welding a cage onto the vehical

Badger armor upgrades can be done by whomever has access to a wrench

agaugust:


Normal in war, looks strange too Southies whose military is only photo-camera Hollywood based.

When last did SANDF guard an FOB in a remote desert ?
.

We had many remot FOB's through-out the Border war

We managed to hold onto all of them

agaugust:





[size=16pt]South African Army Vs Seleka Rebels.....Final Battle Result [/size]

.

[size=16pt]NIgerian Army VS BH.... Final battle result [/size]

Henry120:


You're a retarrd.

It feels like a debating with a wall/ or patches. Irreasonable !!

Algeria battled islamist from 1991-2004 on large scale, and still continues to battle multiple pockets of islamist to this day.

I've educated you on the history of extremism in Nigeria, the heightened proliferation of arms into this conflict due to the situation in libya, the progress Nigeria has and continues to make in it's COIN efforts.

At this point, as always, what you choose to believe is entirely your problem.

You were "done" with me a post ago. But you aren't "done" with me because you can't ignore that which hurts you. You can only get angry and hurl insults. But that changes nothing.

You know what you are angry?

You're angry because you thought that you were being smart hours when you said COiN has given way to semi-conventional.

You don't anticipate that this would be used against you. Now that it is, you're disgusted with yourself. All these insults are meant for you, but you need an outlet.

Your stories, no one buys. They are excuses. The proliferation of weapons story has been shown to not work, because if it were true, all the countries in the region should have a trajectory similar to nigeria.

But it ONLY in Nigeria where:

1. Bases are seized and female soldiers abducted;
2. You open your eyes and a new LG has been captured;
3 soldiers shoot their own commanders;
4. Koran zealots grow into a formidable force in a matter of months;
5. Soldiers keep running away from said zealots;
6. There's total mistrust in the military
7. Soldiers shoot themselves so they aren't forced to fight against the enemy
8. Soldiers' wives and girlfriends come to their rescue.
9. Soldiers protest that they don't have equipment;
10. Soldiers are sentenced to death even though they aren't adequately equipped.

The list goes on and on.

All these things have zero to do with the proliferation of weapons. They have EVeRYTHING to do with a military that's not good enough. Your stories and gymnastics won't work, my man.

You lost this the moment you told us that your COIN op has failed. Because you now realise that, you want to get all aggro. You do have nothing to debate, yes. The horse has bolted.

kgr28:


Stop smoking our own shiit, no Africans were allowed in SA then except those who were working in mines. Madibas family were not even allowed to visit him, and also his comrades, now do you think a Nigerian will be allowed?? there was no even Nigerian embassy then. now wtf are you talking about. You didn't lead SA to shyt, if you did something what did southern countries do people who actually did something. and you cant hear them bittching we did this and that.

NIGERIA IS NO WERE IN HISTORY BOOKS FOR HELPING SA, YOU GOT LIED TO BY YOUR BLACK GOV, WHILE THEY KEEP CHOPING YOUR OIL MONEY.

agaugust, evarn, henry120 just watch this ignorant saffer distort history.
Well. Your apartheid leaders were able to stop other black men from entering south Africa, they were able to prevent blacks from other Africa countries from entering south Africa, but they were unable to prevent a single black nigerian from entering south agtoca during this period. I have it on strong, hard copied and softcopied authority that
" General obasanjo, as a member of a common wealth mediation effort. Known as the eminent persons group, General obasanjo visited Nelson mandela three times in pollsmoor prison outside capetown in 1986. And to be frank with you, i am sure your mandela would be overjoyed to see our dear old General Obasanjo's pretty face when he came to visit. after years and years of abandonment in prison. Lol, Mandela, hmm. Nigeria really helped to make that niggur popular..
Now here is a 1999 article from the newyork times proving that General obasanjo visited mandela in pollsmoor prison in 1986.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/02/world/man-in-the-news-nigerian-question-mark-olusegun-obasanjo.html

NaijaPikinGidi:


Kai my priend! Dis one you I dey tok am ... na pery fawapul tok! Ka ji kwo? Pery good to go!

Henry120:
On power, this is what Nigeria generates.




Dangote Group, Honeywell, BUA Group and other cement, food and beverage manufacturing plants across the country are generating over 15,000 megawatts of electricity that are not in the national grid.

This was disclosed by the President and Chief Executive Officer of General Electric (GE) Nigeria, Dr. Lazarus Angbazo, at the weekend when speaking to journalists in Lagos.

Angbazo stated that this 15,000mw captive power sustains the operations of these private companies.

He said captive power was one area of the power sector where the Nigerian market was in its maturity, stressing that the installed capacity on the national grid and the installed capacity off-grid was estimated to be nearly equal.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/



Nigeria has an installed power generation of about 15,000 MW, the installed infrastructure can only carry 5000MW.

In total Nigeria produces over 30,000 MW of power from both Big private companies like BUA, Honeywell, Ibeto, G.E, and the Federal government.

This excludes power generated by individual citizens.


If we are to actually calculate power generated in the individual countries and compare both, Nigeria does actually generate more power than South-Africa.

That's bull...

Nigeria produced anything from 1500MW to 3000 in the past 18 months... the largest amount you ever produced was 7000MW, that's years back

www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-18/nigeria-s-power-woes-slow-to-abate-after-privatization.html