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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:00am On Jan 07, 2015
overhypedsteve:
agaugust, evarn, henry120 just watch this ignorant saffer distort history.
Well. Your apartheid leaders were able to stop other black men from entering south Africa, they were able to prevent blacks from other Africa countries from entering south Africa, but they were unable to prevent a single black nigerian from entering south agtoca during this period. I have it on strong, hard copied and softcopied authority that
" General obasanjo, as a member of a common wealth mediation effort. Known as the eminent persons group, General obasanjo visited Nelson mandela three times in pollsmoor prison outside capetown in 1986. And to be frank with you, i am sure your mandela would be overjoyed to see our dear old General Obasanjo's pretty face when he came to visit. after years and years of abandonment in prison. Lol, Mandela, hmm. Nigeria really helped to make that niggur popular..
Now here is a 1999 article from the newyork times proving that General obasanjo visited mandela in pollsmoor prison in 1986.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/02/world/man-in-the-news-nigerian-question-mark-olusegun-obasanjo.html

The south-africans are master distortionists, i'm hardly suprised.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:08am On Jan 07, 2015
DieVluit:


You were "done" with me a post ago. But you aren't "done" with me because you can't ignore that which hurts you. You can only get angry and hurl insults. But that changes nothing.

You know what you are angry?

You're angry because you thought that you were being smart hours when you said COiN has given way to semi-conventional.

You don't anticipate that this would be used against you. Now that it is, you're disgusted with yourself. All these insults are meant for you, but you need an outlet.

Your stories, no one buys. They are excuses. The proliferation of weapons story has been shown to not work, because if it were true, all the countries in the region should have a trajectory similar to nigeria.

But it ONLY in Nigeria where:

1. Bases are seized and female soldiers abducted;
2. You open your eyes and a new LG has been captured;
3 soldiers shoot their own commanders;
4. Koran zealots grow into a formidable force in a matter of months;
5. Soldiers keep running away from said zealots;
6. There's total mistrust in the military
7. Soldiers shoot themselves so they aren't forced to fight against the enemy
8. Soldiers' wives and girlfriends come to their rescue.
9. Soldiers protest that they don't have equipment;
10. Soldiers are sentenced to death even though they aren't adequately equipped.

The list goes on and on.

All these things have zero to do with the proliferation of weapons. They have EVeRYTHING to do with a military that's not good enough. Your stories and gymnastics won't work, my man.

You lost this the moment you told us that your COIN op has failed. Because you now realise that, you want to get all aggro. You do have nothing to debate, yes. The horse has bolted.

Uyavutha namuhla.... 10/10 post
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 12:09am On Jan 07, 2015
GreenandGold:


Syabangena... We shall sell them our surplus electricity, these people do not know how to run a country.

The reality that you are in denial of! Help your selves first ... you are struggling to survive! If you doubt my statement ... the links below are freshly baked for you. You don't need to read hard ... the first paragraphs are enough to shut you up for your fraudulence.

=========

http://citizen.co.za/301700/0510top/
http://ewn.co.za/2015/01/03/Eskom-SA-can-prepare-for-more-rolling-blackouts
http://www.iol.co.za/business/companies/eskom-lights-might-still-go-out-1.1801114#.VKxpY8anq4Q
http://citizen.co.za/301877/end-festive-period-increses-load-shedding-risk/
http://ewn.co.za/2015/01/06/Eskom-Electricity-demands-rise-as-people-return-to-work
http://allafrica.com/stories/201501060671.html

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:13am On Jan 07, 2015
overhypedsteve:
agaugust, evarn, henry120 just watch this ignorant saffer distort history.
Well. Your apartheid leaders were able to stop other black men from entering south Africa, they were able to prevent blacks from other Africa countries from entering south Africa, but they were unable to prevent a single black nigerian from entering south agtoca during this period. I have it on strong, hard copied and softcopied authority that
" General obasanjo, as a member of a common wealth mediation effort. Known as the eminent persons group, General obasanjo visited Nelson mandela three times in pollsmoor prison outside capetown in 1986. And to be frank with you, i am sure your mandela would be overjoyed to see our dear old General Obasanjo's pretty face when he came to visit. after years and years of abandonment in prison. Lol, Mandela, hmm. Nigeria really helped to make that niggur popular..
Now here is a 1999 article from the newyork times proving that General obasanjo visited mandela in pollsmoor prison in 1986.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/02/world/man-in-the-news-nigerian-question-mark-olusegun-obasanjo.html



That's bullsht... do you think the Apartheid government would allow people, especially Nigerian dictators to contact Mandela....

That's a bullsht article, this never happened

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:16am On Jan 07, 2015
Henry120:
On power, this is what Nigeria generates.




Dangote Group, Honeywell, BUA Group and other cement, food and beverage manufacturing plants across the country are generating over 15,000 megawatts of electricity that are not in the national grid.

This was disclosed by the President and Chief Executive Officer of General Electric (GE) Nigeria, Dr. Lazarus Angbazo, at the weekend when speaking to journalists in Lagos.

Angbazo stated that this 15,000mw captive power sustains the operations of these private companies.

He said captive power was one area of the power sector where the Nigerian market was in its maturity, stressing that the installed capacity on the national grid and the installed capacity off-grid was estimated to be nearly equal.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/dangote-group-honeywell-others-generate-15-000mw-captive-power/176725/



Nigeria has an installed power generation of about 15,000 MW, the installed infrastructure can only carry 5000MW.

In total Nigeria produces over 30,000 MW of power from both Big private companies like BUA, Honeywell, Ibeto, G.E, and the Federal government.

This excludes power generated by individual citizens.


If we are to actually calculate power generated in the individual countries and compare both, Nigeria does actually generate more power than South-Africa.

A writers opinion which is drunk. Please bring in a scientific source with credible information. Dangote hopefully is producing 15000mw ( mind small letters) from generators. The question that we should start to ask is : From which power station Dangote is producing this large amount of electricity. This is really drunk and only people with mental defects can take it seriously.


Nigeria produces 4000MW of electricity and that's final.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:17am On Jan 07, 2015
NaijaPikinGidi:


The reality that you are in denial of! Help your selves first ... you are struggling to survive! If you doubt my statement ... the links below are freshly baked for you. You don't need to read hard ... the first paragraphs are enough to shut you up for your fraudulence.

=========

http://citizen.co.za/301700/0510top/
http://ewn.co.za/2015/01/03/Eskom-SA-can-prepare-for-more-rolling-blackouts
http://www.iol.co.za/business/companies/eskom-lights-might-still-go-out-1.1801114#.VKxpY8anq4Q
http://citizen.co.za/301877/end-festive-period-increses-load-shedding-risk/
http://ewn.co.za/2015/01/06/Eskom-Electricity-demands-rise-as-people-return-to-work
http://allafrica.com/stories/201501060671.html

Does it change the fact that we have surplus electricity?... load shedding is due to a unit under maintenance.

You live in total darkness, 4000mw doesn't even turn the fridges on.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:20am On Jan 07, 2015
mzilakazi:


A writers opinion which is drunk. Please bring in a scientific source with credible information. Dangote hopefully is producing 15000mw ( mind small letters) from generators. The question that we should start to ask is : From which power station Dangote is producing this large amount of electricity. This is really drunk and only people with mental defects can take it seriously.


Nigeria produces 4000MW of electricity and that's final.

Did you attend school?

The comments were made by the CEO of General Electric (GE) Nigeria.

Dangote doesn't run his plants on generators, neither does he produce 15000 MW of power. The report clearly states Dangote, BUA, Honeywell group others.

Now, go back, read the link again, but carefully.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 12:21am On Jan 07, 2015
GreenandGold:




That's bullsht... do you think the Apartheid government would allow people, especially Nigerian dictators to contact Mandela....

That's a bullsht article, this never happened
i don't understand are you that dumb? Even the common wealth of nation have the evidence.i personally have material and docs to that effect. Feeling sleepy man. Good night.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:33am On Jan 07, 2015
Henry120:


Did you attend school?

The comments were made by the CEO of General Electric (GE) Nigeria.

Dangote doesn't run his plants on generators, neither does he produce 15000 MW of power. The report clearly states Dangote, BUA, Honeywell group others.

Now, go back, read the link again, but carefully.
Yeah Right!

How much is he paid to fabricate these obvious lies... there's no private entity in Africa that has that capacity to produce that much electricity, not even SASOL (which produces its own power and is way larger than Dangote).

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:34am On Jan 07, 2015
Henry120:


Did you attend school?

The comments were made by the CEO of General Electric (GE) Nigeria.

Dangote doesn't run his plants on generators, neither does he produce 15000 MW of power. The report clearly states Dangote, BUA, Honeywell group others.

Now, go back, read the link again, but carefully.


Those are just green lies. We don't want power generated by generators. We want a steady power supply. However, this end it all.

You are producing 4000MW of electricity from your power stations and that's final.



http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EG.ELC.PROD.KH


http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Energy/Electricity/Production


http://www.tsp-data-portal.org/TOP-20-Generation


http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?t=100&v=79


@Henry- you are taking chances young boy. If you want to compete with SA you must tell your government to build powerstations which will take them 100 years to level with SA.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by GreenandGold: 12:36am On Jan 07, 2015
overhypedsteve:
i don't understand are you that dumb? Even the common wealth of nation have the evidence.i personally have material and docs to that effect. Feeling sleepy man. Good night.

Does it change the fact that your bogus visitation didn't happen.

Obasanjo never visited Mandela, they could have been buddies with Mbeki and thats where it all ended.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:48am On Jan 07, 2015
overhypedsteve:
i don't understand are you that dumb? Even the common wealth of nation have the evidence.i personally have material and docs to that effect. Feeling sleepy man. Good night.

All Nigerians are sick, they always want to associate themselves with Mandela even to the extent of telling lies. They treat Mandela as if is their god. Why would they always tell lies about Mandela?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:56am On Jan 07, 2015
DieVluit:


The lost cause here is the Nigerian military.

Boko haram progress to date:

1. Forced the nigerian military from COIN to conventional.
2. Grew from Koran thumbing jokers to fearsome killers.
3. Grew from jokers to holders of territory in nigeria.
4. Had the nigerian government spending billions to fund an internal war.
5. Had the nigerian military killing its own soldiers.
6. Had the nigerian political elite under immense pressure with questions from the public.
7. Planted chaos.
8. They EXIST still.
9. Captured bases.
10. Exposed the military's cowardice and lack of organisation.
11. Has already upset this years vote in the borno north.

... The list goes on and on.

You've failed to stop them, my man. You've failed.

COIN is now new? You are no longer "experts"?

Libya's insecurity has not affected Senegal for example. It has not affected The Gambia. It has not affected other countries in the same way that it has affected Nigeria. Please bra, the issue lies with your military, which has been utterly embarrassing.

Your list is nothing special, about Nigeria.

Those things you wrote are all normal incidents of war.

They have happened to Germany, America, Russia, Britain, Israel, Ethiopia, Egypt, Japan, China etc in battles, check their war history.

Also, those things happened in World War II, Vietnam war, Korean war, SADF-Cuba Bush war, Middle East war, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Angola, etc.

It was a nice list of nothing special, just normal war occurrence.

In war y.ou kill, y.ou die, you run, you return, you lose land, you capture land, you kick and get kicked. Nobody has monopoly of hitting the enemy and not being hit back by the enemy. Life is not sweet for you alone, the other side too will have their own sweet day.

Battles are many and with different results, what matters most is the end of the war, who wins, who loses.

Southies don't know what war is, they think @THIZA has shown them war with his many photos from Hollywood SA grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:59am On Jan 07, 2015
GreenandGold:


What's your problem agububu?

Are you the same person as ActiveKruger? His nairaland account has a white maniac's photo.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:01am On Jan 07, 2015
GreenandGold:
Nigeria cannot even do blood testing on their athletes, they depend on South Africa to do so.


buhahahaha

LOL, test tube babies are produced in Nigerian hospitals with IVF capability. LOL....clown

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:03am On Jan 07, 2015
DieVluit:


The lost cause here is the Nigerian military.

Boko haram progress to date:

1. Forced the nigerian military from COIN to conventional.
2. Grew from Koran thumbing jokers to fearsome killers.
3. Grew from jokers to holders of territory in nigeria.
4. Had the nigerian government spending billions to fund an internal war.
5. Had the nigerian military killing its own soldiers.
6. Had the nigerian political elite under immense pressure with questions from the public.
7. Planted chaos.
8. They EXIST still.
9. Captured bases.
10. Exposed the military's cowardice and lack of organisation.
11. Has already upset this years vote in the borno north.

... The list goes on and on.

You've failed to stop them, my man. You've failed.

COIN is now new? You are no longer "experts"?

Libya's insecurity has not affected Senegal for example. It has not affected The Gambia. It has not affected other countries in the same way that it has affected Nigeria. Please bra, the issue lies with your military, which has been utterly embarrassing.


Truly you analysed it out of the bone. Nobody can ever dispute those achievements by Boko Haram which even forced president Jonathan to run to the world bank to make a loan of $1 billion. What an analysis!!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:06am On Jan 07, 2015
patches689:


[size=16pt]NIgerian Army VS BH.... Final battle result [/size]

That APC you posted has been rosted by Nigerian army...sorry...you are a loser like Boko Haram, tell SANDF to go destroy their Gecko in Bangui.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:06am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:


LOL, test tube babies are produced in Nigerian hospitals with IVF capability. LOL....clown

That's true all the advanced DNA, forensic and blood sample tests in Africa are done in SA. Fact!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:08am On Jan 07, 2015
mzilakazi:


That's true all the advanced DNA, forensic and blood sample tests in Africa are done in SA. Fact!!

Prove it with a source
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:10am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:


That APC you posted has been rosted by Nigerian army...sorry...you are a loser like Boko Haram, tell SANDF to go destroy their Gecko in Bangui.

.

Are you proud of destroying your own property?

Geckos are not war vehicles and we had nothing to lose. We received orders to leave them behind.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:10am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:


Prove it with a source
.

Go and ask any doctor in Nigeria.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:13am On Jan 07, 2015
mzilakazi:


Are you proud of destroying your own property?

Geckos are not war vehicles and we had nothing to lose. We received orders to leave them behind.

You fell into my trap, you lied before that they were purchased by C.A.R.... grin grin

SANDF abandoned them while racing like rabbits to Bangui airport for French army protection grin grin
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:14am On Jan 07, 2015
mzilakazi:


Go and ask any doctor in Nigeria.

You have no weblink source to prove your medical story claims.

You lied as usual....e.g. SASOL owns Nigerian oil industry....serial liar !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:16am On Jan 07, 2015
patches689:


We had many remot FOB's through-out the Border war

We managed to hold onto all of them

Prove it, list the bases and the history source that says you held all of them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:16am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:


You have no weblink source to prove your medical story claims.

You lied as usual....e.g. SASOL owns Nigerian oil industry....serial liar !


Read:


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/lead-story/188288-how-nigeria-loses-over-n1b-yearly-testing-dna-samples-overseas
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:23am On Jan 07, 2015
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patches689:


Dude, why are you so wastfull of precious time?

Two roads went into bangui

Two recon teams were ambushed on the two roads

re-enforcements were sent to get them out

SANDF were pushed back to the base


final stage of the battle took place around the base

We did not have a battalion, we had 200 men.

SANDF was pushed back to base by Seleka, wow ! You said before that SANDF crushed Seleka till they rebels surrendered....

Now you admit SANDF started running away from the roads, ran and ran like rabbits back to base where SANDF finally raised white flag and begged for safe passage to airport getting French army protection.

One day, I know you will mistakenly say the truth.....SANDF was pushed back into retreat by Seleka who defeated you and ride your army Gecko vehicles to shows the world who won !



THE HIDDEN TRUTH MAY NEVER BE PUBLISHED :

"The Minister of Defence and Military Veterans, Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, is determined to keep the truth surrounding the circumstances of the deaths of 15 South African soldiers in the Central African Republic (CAR) hidden from the public, said the Democratic Alliance’s (DA) David Maynier on Wednesday.

Maynier is calling for the establishment of an ad-hoc committee to investigate the circumstances leading to the deaths of the soldiers."

http://www.sabreakingnews.co.za/2014/08/20/government-accused-of-hiding-truth-about-15-sandf-soldiers-killed-in-car/


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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:23am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:


You fell into my trap, you lied before that they were purchased by C.A.R.... grin grin

SANDF abandoned them while racing like rabbits to Bangui airport for French army protection grin grin
.


The newspapers are spreading lies. We never abandoned any vehicles in CAR. we were told to leave behind Geckos. Only hornets were airlifted back to SA.

By the way, we had many hornets in CAR, so can you show me any picture of the hornet captured by Seleka?

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:25am On Jan 07, 2015
mzilakazi:



The newspapers are spreading lies. We never abandoned any vehicles in CAR. we were told to leave behind Geckos. Only hornets were airlifted back to SA.

By the way, we had many hornets in CAR, so can you show me any picture of the hornet captured by Seleka?

Honestly sir, you will make an excellent thief, you lie a lot
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30am On Jan 07, 2015
mzilakazi:



Read:


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/lead-story/188288-how-nigeria-loses-over-n1b-yearly-testing-dna-samples-overseas

Fool grin grin

Your own source confirms DNA tests are done in Nigeria by Nigerian experts, just that it costs more than in South Africa and Britain :

"The cost of testing DNA samples overseas

The Lagos laboratory charges N70, 000 for a complete paternity DNA test (samples from a father and a child). A United Kingdom-based laboratory, with a branch office in Lagos charges $300 (N51, 000) for a simple paternity test per head. In South Africa, paternity test ranges between N30, 000 and N91, 000 depending on the collection lab visited in Nigeria."

Fool, it's just price difference.

How old are you sir ?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:30am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:
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SANDF was pushed back to base by Seleka, wow ! You said before that SANDF crushed Seleka till they rebels surrendered....

Now you admit SANDF started running away from the roads, ran and ran like rabbits back to base where SANDF finally raised white flag and begged for safe passage to airport getting French army protection.

One day, I know you will mistakenly say the truth.....SANDF was pushed back into retreat by Seleka who defeated you and ride your army Gecko vehicles to shows the world who won !



THE HIDDEN TRUTH MAY NEVER BE PUBLISHED :

"The Minister of Defence and Military Veterans, Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, is determined to keep the truth surrounding the circumstances of the deaths of 15 South African soldiers in the Central African Republic (CAR) hidden from the public, said the Democratic Alliance’s (DA) David Maynier on Wednesday.

Maynier is calling for the establishment of an ad-hoc committee to investigate the circumstances leading to the deaths of the soldiers."

http://www.sabreakingnews.co.za/2014/08/20/government-accused-of-hiding-truth-about-15-sandf-soldiers-killed-in-car/


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The truth about the ANC interests about the wealth of CAR diamonds, some ANC members have shares in oil business in CAR, Zuma's son has business interests in CAR, etc. All of that were lies that were paddled by DA and found out to be lies. We were on the mission to train CAR troops, that's all. You will never stop to entertain Seleka story which happened almost two years ago. Shame!!

We never surrendered, do you even think rebels will ever have mercy to spare your life? absolutely nope. We defeated Seleka and they raised a white flag. Don't twist the facts.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:36am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:


Fool grin grin

Your own source confirms DNA tests are done in Nigeria by Nigerian experts, just that it costs more than in South Africa and Britain :

"The cost of testing DNA samples overseas

The Lagos laboratory charges N70, 000 for a complete paternity DNA test (samples from a father and a child). A United Kingdom-based laboratory, with a branch office in Lagos charges $300 (N51, 000) for a simple paternity test per head. In South Africa, paternity test ranges between N30, 000 and N91, 000 depending on the collection lab visited in Nigeria."

Fool, it's just price difference.

How old are you sir ?


That's not true. Nigeria import SA technique of DNA testing and without SA they are nothing. All African countries send the blood samples to SA for forensic because of the advance scientific method used in SA. It had been like that for many years.


However, this is the extract I quoted from the source.




The sum – actually, a loss in revenue – is not
unconnected with a perennial lack of a standard
microbiology laboratory to test DNA samples locally.
There is not even one at the Nigerian Institute of
Medical Research (NIMR), Yaba – the flagship research
institute in the country.



meaning you have zero of such facility.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:04am On Jan 07, 2015
agaugust:
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SANDF was pushed back to base by Seleka, wow ! You said before that SANDF crushed Seleka till they rebels surrendered....

Now you admit SANDF started running away from the roads, ran and ran like rabbits back to base where SANDF finally raised white flag and begged for safe passage to airport getting French army protection.

One day, I know you will mistakenly say the truth.....SANDF was pushed back into retreat by Seleka who defeated you and ride your army Gecko vehicles to shows the world who won !



THE HIDDEN TRUTH MAY NEVER BE PUBLISHED :

"The Minister of Defence and Military Veterans, Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, is determined to keep the truth surrounding the circumstances of the deaths of 15 South African soldiers in the Central African Republic (CAR) hidden from the public, said the Democratic Alliance’s (DA) David Maynier on Wednesday.

Maynier is calling for the establishment of an ad-hoc committee to investigate the circumstances leading to the deaths of the soldiers."

http://www.sabreakingnews.co.za/2014/08/20/government-accused-of-hiding-truth-about-15-sandf-soldiers-killed-in-car/


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That has been the official story since day one

Our recon elements were ambushed

men from the base responded, extracted the ambushed recon elements and fought a fighting retreat back to base

the base was attacked

Seleka was unable to overcome defenses, and the base prevented them from entering bangui

They offered a cease-fire

We accepted

Meanwhile, you are losing bases inside Nigeria

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