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Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 3:51pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
I notice atheists and pagans are always apt to criticize any thread against Islam and try to debunk it if they can. But they rush out in their number to support the criticism against Christianity. And I began to wonder why they prefer islam and have soft spot for it against Christianity. Then I discovered the meeting point: the Deity that is responsible for atheists not believing in God and pagans believing in idols is also responsible for muslims believing in false god (Allah), an Arabian moon god. They prefer muslims that would chop off their neck for not converting to islam to Christians that would bless them and give them room to repent. What sense does this make? This same Deity possessed the people to kill Jesus and opted for the release of a thief, Barabbas (Matthew 27:20-22). People asked Pilate to crucify the peaceful Jesus, who was healing them and raising their dead, but asked for the release of a notorious Barabbas the thief, who would steal their property and kill them. What sense does this make? The Devil can make the intelligent people do [b]senseless things[/b]. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding (Prov. 9:10). It takes the true God to get true wisdom and proper understanding. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 5:11pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
I thought there are many atheists in the house, why the unusual silence? No defence? I know you would have bombarded the thread with many insulting statements. |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 5:17pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
I'd like to remind you that Allah is God,just like Jehovah,Yahweh,Oluwa,Chukwu, e.t.c Your thread is not worth commenting on,because that's a load of jargons you wrote up there. 4 Likes |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 5:27pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Nobleval: Why did you comment if it is not worth it, contradicting yourself? Allah is not Yahweh even according to the quran. You need to seek knowledge before you speak. 3 Likes |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 5:37pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
truthman2012:which part of the quaran said that? |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 5:54pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Nobleval: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah....(Quran 9:29) Those who have been given the Scripture are the Jews and Christians, abi? Now Allah says the Jews and Christians who believed in Yahweh did not believe in Allah. I think you can see they are not the same. Allah further told Muhammad to say: O disbelievers (Kafri,): I worship not that which ye worship Nor worship ye that which I worship Unto you your religion and to me my religion (Quran 109:1, 3, 6). What Muhammad worship is not the Yahweh of the Jews and Christians. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 5:57pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Nobleval: Indeed they are loads of balderdash....indeed. this truthman guy has been running up and down displaying his Low IQ. He said on another thread out of ignorance that the satan that is alleged be deceiving muslims is also responsible for the emergence of catholic church... the dude has forgetten that without the catholic they woudnt have access to the bible they are using today for it wss the catholic that compile it for them. The dude further display his ignorance below: Then I discovered the meeting point: the Deity that is responsible for atheists not believing in God and pagans believing in idols is also responsible for [s] muslims believing in false god (Allah), an Arabian moon god. [/s] Now truthman2012. Which diety is responsible for the splitting of xtianity to over 40000 sects? Simple and straight answer please 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 6:06pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: First, I have challenged you to paste the 40000 sects but because it is false you could not. Not until then your question remains closed. Note islam has many dangerous sects, killing one another I can paste for you. |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 6:09pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Nobleval:allah is the devil that come to kill steal and destroyed. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 6:12pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
truthman2012: How many time do you want me to paste it? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations Do you want another source^^ Now please answer my question.: Which diety is responsible for the splitting of xtianity to over 40000 sects? |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 6:13pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
truthman2012: I hope this helps. [b]The One God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims[b/] Jews, Christians, and Muslims believe that there is only one God. In the Jewish scriptures, God is called by many names in the Hebrew language, since those are Hebrew texts. The most famous of these names is the name Yahweh. The basic creed of the Jews is found in the Bible in the Book of Deuteronomy 6:4 as follows: “Listen, Israel: Yahweh our God is the one, the only Yahweh. (The New Jerusalem Bible, Deut. 6:4) Notice in the above verse that God’s name is Yahweh. That name eventually fell into disuse. The same verse above is quoted in the Christian New Testament, but without the name, as follows: “Listen, Israel, the Lord our God is the one, only Lord"(Mark 12:29) Notice that this verse from Mark’s gospel is identical to the verse from Deuteronomy, except for one obvious difference. The name Yahweh occurred twice in the Deuteronomy verse, but never in Mark’s quotation. Mark, being a Greek writer, replaced the Hebrew word Yahweh with the Greek words ho kyrios meaning ‘the Lord,’ and kyrios meaning ‘Lord.’ One translation of the Bible renders the above verse from Mark as follows: “Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah” (Mark 12:29 New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, Published by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 1961, revised 1984). Notice here that now, instead of Yahweh, the name Jehovah is substituted. The Qur’an also insists there no god but One God. In the Qur’an, however, we notice two significant differences from the previous scriptures. The first difference is that the book addresses not just the Israelites, but all mankind. In the Qur’an it is no longer “Hear O Israel” alone, but rather “O Mankind.” The Qur’an says for example: “O Mankind! Worship your Lord, who has created you and those before you” (Qur’an 2:21) The second difference from the previous scriptures is that the Qur’an, having been revealed in the Arabic language, uses the Arabic name for the one true God – Allah. The Qur’an says for example: “Allah! There is no god except Him, the Alive, the Eternal” (Qur’an 2:255). This name of God is used by Arabic speaking Christians and Jews and by Muslims of every language. The New Encyclopedia Britannica says: “Allah is the standard Arabic word for “God” and is used by Arab Christians as well as Muslims” (Britannica, 1990 edition, vol. 1, p.276). So here we have in various languages three names for the same God – the one true God who was worshipped by Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (peace be upon them) 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Nobody: 6:24pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
malvisguy212:I THINK YOU ARE VERY WRONG,I was raised up in a christian home,but my Dad has made me to understand that Allah is same as our God. I have muslim friends and they worship the same God we worship,although they don't give Jesus the respect christians give him. He is just another great prophet named Isah according to them,but the greatest prophet ever to walk this earth is Muhammed and they believe that he and Jesus were all sent by Allah (GOD) So you see,it could be that you are cursing the name of God in Arabic ,it's just like saying that Ol*wa or Ch*neke is a murderer or whatever just because you can't understand yoruba and Igbo language respectively. 4 Likes |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 6:30pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
@Nobleval No doubt, Yahweh is the God of the Jews and Christians. Allah was worshiped in Muhammad's family as pagans. I'm sure you know that Mutaleb, Muhammad's grandpa and AbduAllah (Abdulai), Muhammad's father were all idol worshipers. The name of their idol was Allah, because they believe he was the true God. Allah is an arabic word meaning God and Arabic Christians use it too. There is an evidence that Muhammad was already worshiping allah (idol) before islam. |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 6:35pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Nobleval:you quote the scripture, but it was the same allah that say you should fight thoes that has been giving the scripture; Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah....(Quran 9:29) So Allah is telling Muslims to fight Him? 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 6:45pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Nobleval:when a book that you claimed comes from the true God contradicted the other, one must be wrong, we must ask this question, are they the same deity? Bible say Jesus died for my sin.quran say it's a lie, Allah make the Jew believe Jesus was killed, are they the same? Do you think God will wait for 600 years and later send muhammed to say ''they crucified him not'' what about thoes that died believing Jesus was killed, wh will be blame for there unbelief? Allah or satan? Friend, Allah in the quran and God in the bible are not the same. Is your dad a born again Christian? If yes, is he well versed in the bible and quran? If yes, he will not say this to you. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 6:54pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: The source itself does not list the 41,000 sects. That someone wrote something he could not prove does not mean is the truth. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 6:58pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Muslims like to deceive themselves. If allah is the same as Yahweh, why was Muhammad to fight Yahweh's worshipers. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 7:17pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
truthman2012:they are sooo confused. Only God will saved them. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 7:23pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
truthman2012:the liist in that link does not reach the 41000 he claimed, and I believe most of the denominations are not existing. 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 7:27pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
truthman2012: LOL So you expect them to list all the 40000 sects? bros answer my question abeggg. The below are just thousands among the popular ones ls in the world please make sure you go through them http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations_by_number_of_members http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations Note: No nigerian churches were listed among them, that is to show that they approximate it to 41000 sects (possibly it might be above). So now please kindly answer my question: Which diety is responsible for the splitting of xtianity to over 40000 sects? |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 7:29pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Yes, they are not existing, I inserted them to the site LOL 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by sufido123: 7:31pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Religion is the opium of the masses. The masses are the poor ones I might add. It is only an unreasonable God that would allow the insane and despicable killings in France today. Those who kill for God are not human beings and should be spat on. As for me, I chose not to base my salvation on prophesies based on imperfect knowledge. The medieval goat herders that wrote the so-called "holly" books were menaces and their followers today are no better. Religion has become a menace to this world and I can't wait to see the death of of all religions. It is already beginning to happen albeit it slowly. My condolences to France. Hopefully, they will catch these goons that did the terrorist act today, 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 7:32pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
malvisguy212: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 7:33pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:na wikipedia nah, anything is possible, anyone can Edith it. |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 7:36pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:as usual , no attempt to reply the op, only derailiing . |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by truthman2012(m): 7:40pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001: How can that be, 40,000? They are haters of Christianity. I notice you are silent on the deadly sects in islam, what are you covering? 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 7:42pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
malvisguy212: So your tiny brain can only come up with that the site was edited, i.e most of those denominations are not existing? and have you click on those denominations to verify if they are existinh or not? |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 7:45pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
malvisguy212: What do you want me to reply? He said the devil is controlling muslim and atheist. Amd I ask who splitted xtianity to 41000sects? kindly help him to answer it. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 7:48pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:wikipedia cannot be edited? |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 7:52pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Again you evaded my question...truthman2012 evading poignant questions since BC truthman2012: Okay mr man how many are they? Attach your prove please. They are haters of Christianity. Are you also saying that the site was edited like moses have said? did you click on them to verify if actually they exist? I notice you are silent on the deadly sects in islam, what are you covering? I'm not covering anything....just answer my question biko |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by malvisguy212: 7:54pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:you can make it 5million sect. Christians knows the message of the cross. This is how to identified your brother in Christ. Galatians 5:22-23 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self- control. Against such things there is no law. Now the sects in Islam, what causes it? How do you know true Muslim? 1 Like |
Re: Atheism, Islam And Paganism: The Meeting Point by Rilwayne001: 7:56pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Of course they can. We can only dismiss it if it has no reference, thats why you see some info with [citation needed] and so far there is nothing like that in the link i provided, then all the list are valid. Again have you clicked on them to verify if they are not existing? |
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