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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:00am On Jan 10, 2015
agaugust:


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1384392/Mass-murder-in-South-Africa.html

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So what?

We dont have

- 1,6 million people internally displaced
- Number 1 spot on world terror rankings
- Enemy soldiers holding our land
- Enemy soldiers capturing our bases
- Enemy soldiers defeating our army on a day to day basis

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:01am On Jan 10, 2015
agaugust:


France has two terrorists in two different cities holding France to ransom at this very minute.

88,000 French police, intelligence, and military forces are surrounding a town where just 2 terrorists are locking down a territory of France.

Nigeria is doing very well against Boko Haram, as good as any NATO or European military, paramilitary or intelligence service

France is struggling at home inside Paris.
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No, France does not have

- 1,6 million people internally displaced
- French cities under terrorist controll
- 200 French girls who have been stolen and never seen again
- French army bases and instillations under enemy controll
- The number 1 spot on the world terror rankings
- An army in full retreat

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:05am On Jan 10, 2015
ChukwuCantDie:
Zulu this zulu that now the zulus are the last remaining slaves, if you ask nicely we might come and free you.

Lol, Nigerians are still following national tradition and selling each other to their white and arab masters
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/beyond-boko-haram-nigerias-human-trafficking-crisis-10482
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:24am On Jan 10, 2015
agaugust:
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Mr. Kenya, if you think Kenya is strong can you explain how Kenyan intelligence services were blind till El-Shabab terrorists entered Kenya from Somalia, traveled into your bloody capital Nairobi, entered a big shopping mall, held your own people hostage in front view of the whole world, while the incompetent and corrupt Kenyan army and air force were helpless for days surrounding the mall, unable to think quick about what to do, then foolishly decided to attack, used RPG on a civilian crowded shopping mall, got innocent Kenyan women and children killed in the mall, then Kenyan military began to loot and steal traders' jewelry inside the shopping mall instead of saving lives.....

Wow ! I am surprised a Kenyan of all human beings wants to, open his basket mouth and insult Nigeria on terrorism, El-Shabab uses Kenya for shooting practice tongue tongue tongue

http://en.people.cn/90777/8407044.html



PHOTO : SOMALIAN TERROR LORDS SHOOTING KENYANS FOR PRACTICE IN NAIROBI




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I will tell you exactly how. they ccrossed into Kenya as refugees and we welcomed them with open arms. they then planned there attacks right from through refugee camp. and because we are so good hearted. refugees in Kenya are allowed to move out of the camps in search of education or jobs. they then moved to Nairobi and used one of there sleeper cell to supply them with guns. it's true we have a corrupt police force. they dint follow up in intelligence given to them by the NIS. but speaking of intelligence and police and armies. how does a country wich claims to be the king of Africa with a intelligence service and one of the largest armies in Africa by numbers and a whole police force with a budget three times ours allow uneducated militias to go around on yours soil with freaking tanks and armored vehicles with anti aircraft guns mounted on top of pick ups. they are not even hiding in plane site, they roll in convoys on. tamarked roads that were built throu citizen tax money, they occupy whole towns and even change the towns names. it's a mockery!!!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:40am On Jan 10, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:44am On Jan 10, 2015
dakingsman:
IHS Jane knows nothing, i use to respect the website until few minutes ago after reading there post about the super hind. they might not have been upgraded in south africa but its official that they are now flying as at. 2200 09/01/2015.North East Nigeria has seen so many different birds flying in her airspace since the beginning of 2014.
darkingsman, who's the black dude in the pics? he seems to be the same Guy in the pictures that have 2 super hinds BeegEagle posted.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 8:55am On Jan 10, 2015
Henry120:


They haven't met hardcore hostage takers who "dead or alive" have nothing to lose.

[citation needed]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 8:57am On Jan 10, 2015
Henry120:


Saffers should first save saffer. It's the appropriate place to start.

There is a comprehensive plan in place to deal with this insurgency. This was the reason the 7 DIV was set-up in the first place.

Operations are however ongoing in those areas, including Baga. Everything is on track.

Everything is on track:

Boko Haram destroys 16 towns and villages in a wave of attackes in the area where they captured your FOB
http://www.enca.com/africa/nigeria-unrest-sends-7300-fleeing-chad-un

Is that on track?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 9:20am On Jan 10, 2015
patches689:


Everything is on track:

Boko Haram destroys 16 towns and villages in a wave of attackes in the area where they captured your FOB
http://www.enca.com/africa/nigeria-unrest-sends-7300-fleeing-chad-un

Is that on track?

Events have overtaken that story. Cherry picking stories doesn't make it the most current. An offensive is ongoing.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:06am On Jan 10, 2015
iterator24:
darkingsman, who's the black dude in the pics? he seems to be the same Guy in the pictures that have 2 super hinds BeegEagle posted.

It is the same guy. I believe he's also a Pilot.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:08am On Jan 10, 2015
patches689:


Everything is on track:

Boko Haram destroys 16 towns and villages in a wave of attackes in the area where they captured your FOB
http://www.enca.com/africa/nigeria-unrest-sends-7300-fleeing-chad-un

Is that on track?

Yes, everything is on track.

The military has launched a large scale offensive on the town.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:08am On Jan 10, 2015
rka1:


It shows you have little understanding of how an insurgency works and methods they use.

I will let The American Spectator educate you;

the terrorists are pretty much following the book on revolutionary warfare. Mix it up. Hit and run. Confuse the enemy. Sow dissension among his tactical allies.

And, of course, show the population the government cannot defend them. That is crucial. Do it ruthlessly: kill village heads or officials or patriarchs. Kidnap girls, boys, young men: turn them into sex workers by any other name, hard-labor slavers, or even child soldiers. The West Africans — the Africans generally — have decades of experience with child soldiers. Adroitly exploited, such kids are useful to ruthless radicals. They are terrified. They are psychotic. They are expendable. This is revolutionary war.


http://spectator.org/articles/61418/who-lost-nigeria
BH has attacked and it is holding several villages and towns that's not "hit and run" they're openly attacking Nigeria.

Able to move large terrorists in technicals, Bikes, APCs etc. After attacking Baga they attacked more villages.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:12am On Jan 10, 2015
dakingsman:
IHS Jane knows nothing, i use to respect the website until few minutes ago after reading there post about the super hind. they might not have been upgraded in south africa but its official that they are now flying as at. 2200 09/01/2015.North East Nigeria has seen so many different birds flying in her airspace since the beginning of 2014.

This is getting really interesting. Dakingsman, I hope we can get the serial number of the helicopters. That's the only way we can clear things up for sure.

Problem is, since we are getting a sizeable number of helicopters from the Ukraine, it's difficult to determine which is which.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:19am On Jan 10, 2015
Henry120:


You're done for.

It is easy to confuse the two. With Nigeria currently taking deliveries of attack helicopters from the ukraine, and in that colour scheme, a mix up wouldn't have been out of place.

Yes, 2 are insignificant. If it is a confirmed Nigerian up-grade, the military would have done 6 - 12.

Also seeing Nigeria took deliveries of up-graded MI-35 helicopters in MID August- September, it seemed logical.

So you've now awaken?

No Super Hind. Okay?

Mixed up? Mate, aircraft have markings.

Exhibit confidence with your posts/reports, stop speculating. Investigate first. That other blogger will lose credibility cause of not doing these even janes had to remove their article, it will affect his record.

#HenryButtHurt.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:31am On Jan 10, 2015
Henry120:


Saffers should first save saffer. It's the appropriate place to start.

There is a comprehensive plan in place to deal with this insurgency. This was the reason the 7 DIV was set-up in the first place.

Operations are however ongoing in those areas, including Baga. Everything is on track.
Saffers are saving Nigerians Angola is where we started.

We have seen mutiny and lack of discipline in 7 DIV for a wide range of reasons. The vigilantes are even better.

Your generals have not shown they're capable of dealing with BH, all their efforts have led to BH gaining strength becoming more formidable as everyday passes. Your plans yielding are nothing but massacres.

If someone was to ask Badeh right now what's plan, he'd scream the words favoured by Nigerian officers "We know our job, leave us let us do our job".
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 10:55am On Jan 10, 2015
overhypedsteve:
shaka never had wives, he impregnated slaves and whores, shaka never gave birth to children he gave birth to zulu slaves. Shaka is just another south African fraud thrown into history books. Shaka is the worst dimwit of all time. His innovation in the military area are both risky and impracticable. How can you say foot soldiers should fight bare footed, abstain from women and hold short stabbing spear against enemies wielding long throwing spears that they could throw and even hold and pierce through the heart of shaka zulu coward while he is still thinking of his sex deprived life. Your bare footed zulu soldiers held their short stabbing spears to face the white men gattling guns and a new lesson was learnt that day. Shaka's military tactic have failed he and his zulu bushmen. They laid dead that day half naked with flies buzzing around their private parts they were of no use in life and even in death they were of little use. Shaka and mandela are two side of the same counterfeit coin.

A.

His tactics proved deadly when used King Cetshwayo. At the battle of Isandlwana he crashed the British.

Again: One of Shaka's generals King Mzilikazi conquered kingdoms after kingdoms heading north, until the land was uninhabitable South of what today is Tanzania.

The Iklwa(short stabbing spear) is effective in close counters battle than a huge throwing spear. Which are less manoeuvrable in battle.

Zulu warriors wore cow hide sandals.

B.

A defeat for the Zulus was inevitable, the British empire was way too powerful even the USA received help from France.

C.

SA tribes even with limited resources fought magnificently, how African kings were respected by their colonial enemies. A British newspaper payed tribute to King Sekhukhune then.

Unlike somee kingdoms which fell with no military resistance.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:04am On Jan 10, 2015
dakingsman:
IHS Jane knows nothing, i use to respect the website until few minutes ago after reading there post about the super hind. they might not have been upgraded in south africa but its official that they are now flying as at. 2200 09/01/2015.North East Nigeria has seen so many different birds flying in her airspace since the beginning of 2014.
The Super Hinds belong to the Algerian air force they were sent to Ukraine to be refurbished.

Jane got the story from the beegeaagles blog, after he circulated the pictures which you claim belonged to you. This well excited a few of his stans.

They(Janes) were corrected by multiple SA defence sites. The mixed up was with the Super hinds.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:05am On Jan 10, 2015
Henry120:


It is the same guy. I believe he's also a Pilot.
Not civilian from your defence ministry.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:05am On Jan 10, 2015
patches689:


No, France does not have

- 1,6 million people internally displaced
- French cities under terrorist controll
- 200 French girls who have been stolen and never seen again
- French army bases and instillations under enemy controll
- The number 1 spot on the world terror rankings
- An army in full retreat

France does not have 90 million Muslims citizens.

France does not have 20,000 terrorist French citizens spread all over France with AK-47, RPG, 23mm Cannon ravaging and killing defenceless civilians in over 10 cities all at the same time.

France does not has 3 Muslim neighbours with a 1,000 km long border being used by terrorists to launch surprise hit and run cross border attacks on helpless and unarmed people in their houses at night.

@Patches does not have commom sense, talk less of comparative situational analysis capability
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:17am On Jan 10, 2015
Kafrican:


I will tell you exactly how. they ccrossed into Kenya as refugees and we welcomed them with open arms. they then planned there attacks right from through refugee camp. and because we are so good hearted. refugees in Kenya are allowed to move out of the camps in search of education or jobs. they then moved to Nairobi and used one of there sleeper cell to supply them with guns. it's true we have a corrupt police force. they dint follow up in intelligence given to them by the NIS. but speaking of intelligence and police and armies. how does a country wich claims to be the king of Africa with a intelligence service and one of the largest armies in Africa by numbers and a whole police force with a budget three times ours allow uneducated militias to go around on yours soil with freaking tanks and armored vehicles with anti aircraft guns mounted on top of pick ups. they are not even hiding in plane site, they roll in convoys on. tamarked roads that were built throu citizen tax money, they occupy whole towns and even change the towns names. it's a mockery!!!!!

El-Shabbab is mocking Kenya since 1998-2015. http://en.people.cn/90777/8407044.html

Boko Haram occupies a town and changes it's name for a month, then Nigerian army goes in and wipe them out killing hundreds of terrorists, so who wins at last?

Those shopping mall guys are not the only terrorists to attack Kenya, El-Shabbab has been roasting Kenyans inside your country for many years in many different attacks LONG LONG BEFORE IT STARTED IN NIGERIA !

http://en.people.cn/90777/8407044.html


I will tell you what, Boko Haram is an internal rebellion in Nigeria and sponsored by Nigerian muslim politicians, traditional rulers, military officers, police officers, and supported by millions of fanatical muslim citizens. Boko Haram is supported secretly by President Deby of Chad and also uses Cameroon's territory to maintain secret camps for cross border raids.

You too try wage inside war against your own family at home and lets see how easy it is for your sisters and parents to defeat you when you and your brothers plan evil inside your fathers's house and execute your plans at night.

Common sense.

You have an excuse for Kenya, I have an excuse for Nigeria, get it ?

I also notice that you Kenyans have less common sense than the Rwandans, my shocking discovery
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:18am On Jan 10, 2015
dakingsman:
IHS Jane knows nothing, i use to respect the website until few minutes ago after reading there post about the super hind. they might not have been upgraded in south africa but its official that they are now flying as at. 2200 09/01/2015.North East Nigeria has seen so many different birds flying in her airspace since the beginning of 2014.
If this @Nigerian_military_history is a site/twitter page, you need to start self promoting it by posting links not pictures.

Nigeria lacks defence sites, the eagles blog is the sole preferred site for Nigerian military watchers.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:21am On Jan 10, 2015
patches689:


So what?

We dont have

- 1,6 million people internally displaced
- Number 1 spot on world terror rankings
- Enemy soldiers holding our land
- Enemy soldiers capturing our bases
- Enemy soldiers defeating our army on a day to day basis

You don't have 20,000 South African citizens living inside your country, fully armed and killing your people.

Yet in peace time, South Africa has more violent deaths than Nigeria per year !

What would South Africa look like in an internal war or rebellion.....Armageddon ?
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:31am On Jan 10, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:46am On Jan 10, 2015
patches689:


Everything is on track:

Boko Haram destroys 16 towns and villages in a wave of attackes in the area where they captured your FOB
http://www.enca.com/africa/nigeria-unrest-sends-7300-fleeing-chad-un

Is that on track?

Much exaggerated figures and unconfirmed reports. Who is the population census master doing all these counting inside war zone, when Boko is shooting, NAF jets are bombing, NA tanks are shelling and people are dying, some unknown journalist bullet proof and bomb proof human being who always survives all wars comes up with figures of casualties and refugees from an area almost as big as Great Britain. How accurate are these figures? How were they counted inside a burning hell of a war zone? Garbage statistics !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 11:57am On Jan 10, 2015
MikeCZAR:

A.

His tactics proved deadly when used King Cetshwayo. At the battle of Isandlwana he crashed the British.

Again: One of Shaka's generals King Mzilikazi conquered kingdoms after kingdoms heading north, until the land was uninhabitable South of what today is Tanzania.

The Iklwa(short stabbing spear) is effective in close counters battle than a huge throwing spear. Which are less manoeuvrable in battle.

Zulu warriors wore cow hide sandals.

B.

A defeat for the Zulus was inevitable, the British empire was way too powerful even the USA received help from France.

C.

SA tribes even with limited resources fought magnificently, how African kings were respected by their colonial enemies. A British newspaper payed tribute to King Sekhukhune then.

Unlike somee kingdoms which fell with no military resistance.
lol. So in summary, shaka was just a cute local champion. Hmm. Thanks for helping me prove my point.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:05pm On Jan 10, 2015
overhypedsteve:
read my comment again. I said they where impracticable, Unsustainable
"Impracticable"!! Shaka's army defeated the british who had rifles, as for them being unsustainable, i agree with you to an extent.
BTW i did read your comment and you did say he was a dimwit, which we know cant possibly be true, his war tactics were ground breaking at that time.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:19pm On Jan 10, 2015
overhypedsteve:
lol. So in summary, shaka was just a cute local champion. Hmm. Thanks for helping me prove my point.
He conquered other countries militarily and diplomatically.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:23pm On Jan 10, 2015
dakingsman:


i wasnt happy wen i read beegeales blog about the super hind, South Africa didnt upgrade those birds. the super hind helos has been in Nigeria since September, Nigeria received 6 upgraded MI-35M aswell during this period. as at today, Nigerian Airforce received over 15 attack helicopters between April 2014-Dec 2015. yesterday, the North East witnessed not less than 4 unmarked Nigerian Airforce helicopters Just like the ones used in Mubi. i'm proud of the blog and i must confessed, i go on it every day since God knows, probably 2010
They are not "super hinds" this name belongs to a package which is offered by the paramount group.

The Nigerian air force flies other hind versions.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:34pm On Jan 10, 2015
MikeCZAR:
They are not "super hinds" this name belongs to a package which is offered by the paramount group.

The Nigerian air force flies other hind versions.
Its funny how fast they boast about acquiring Super Hinds(even though they havent) but they claim South African weapon systems are sh;t.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:44pm On Jan 10, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 3:06pm On Jan 10, 2015
MikeCZAR:
The strongest infantry that called SA to rescue them when they were stuck in the DRC, while rebel forces were advancing on their positions in the late 90s.

Cause their defence force had no capability of pulling them out?
isnt military capacity different from military skill/strength?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 3:30pm On Jan 10, 2015
agaugust:


You don't have 20,000 South African citizens living inside your country, fully armed and killing your people.

Yet in peace time, South Africa has more violent deaths than Nigeria per year !

What would South Africa look like in an internal war or rebellion.....Armageddon ?
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- Nigeria does not have reliable police stats
- We dont have 20 000 armed combatants in our country because it is stable and supported by excellent security services

It would look like it did in Aparthied - with the military maintaining controll and without 1,6 million internally displaced people

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