Stats: 3,189,682 members, 7,938,069 topics. Date: Monday, 02 September 2024 at 04:37 PM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie (1257 Views)
Afenifere, Okogie, Babatope, Others Reply Oyegun: "Buhari Will Lose 2019 If... / Olubunmi Odumusi Dies After Swearing-in As Ogun Permanent Secretary (photo) / Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie (2) (3) (4)
Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by aboy247: 12:06pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
Retired Catholic Archbishop of Lagos, Cardinal Olubunmi Okogie, explains why the clergy should not mix religion with politics. He speaks against the backdrop of the statement by the Enugu-based Catholic priest and founder of Adoration Ground, Father Ejike Mbaka, that members of his congregation should reject President Goodluck Jonathan in the general elections. How do you see the statement credited to Rev. Father Ejike Mbaka? Any serious priest will not speak the way he spoke. I am not saying that he is not serious. I will not agree with the things he said. According to what I read in the newspapers, a few weeks earlier, the First Lady, Mrs. Patience Jonathan, visited his Adoration Ground in Enugu and he prayed for her. At that occasion, he was said to have lambasted the opposition party, APC, and now to turn around overnight and start lambasting President Goodluck Jonathan shows that there is something wrong somewhere. Personally, I felt bad because it is not the place of a priest to go to that extent. He can have his personal opinion, but to go to the extent that he went is abnormal. I want you to know that he wasn’t speaking for the church. He said he was moved by the spirit, and I wonder what kind of spirit was that. He said he was under the inspiration of the spirit. If he was under the inspiration of the spirit, I wonder if the spirit is that of God. I don’t think the spirit he’s referring to is the spirit of God. He must have been under the influence of another spirit. He must have been listening to a wrong spirit. Is the statement not embarrassing to the Catholic Church as a whole? Indeed, it is. But I must say to you that he was not speaking on behalf of the church. No! No!! No!!! Anybody with such opinion is in error. The man cannot hold brief for the church. Pardon me, but how can I say you are bloody fool and anybody takes that to mean that all journalists are bloody fools. It’s very funny. In a situation such as this, what does the Catholic Church do? Well, the Catholic Church is structured in such a way that there are dioceses where each priest belongs. This particular priest happens to come from Enugu Diocese, so it is left for the bishop in charge of that diocese to discipline him. If the priest fails to obey the discipline, then the bishop is obligated to report the mother to the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria, CBCN. You may have heard the Bishop of Abuja Diocese, John Cardinal Onaiyekan, who said that if the priest were to be in his diocese, he would discipline him straight. But he is not in his diocese. The best anyone of us can do is just to advise him that he had gone too far and he is free to take our advice and he may not. God gave every one of us a free will and we are at liberty to use the freewill as we choose. What kind of sanction can be given to such a priest? It depends on his bishop. You cannot dictate for his bishop. Don’t forget that this same man was at loggerheads with a former governor of Enugu State, Chimaroke Nnamanni, and it was the same Adoration Ground in Enugu. If I have my way, we should close that place because a lot of things have been happening there that are out of tune. I think Gov. Peter Obi also went there for prayers at one point. If I have my way, I won’t go there for anything…. Your advice for politicians who are currently jostling for votes…. One of them came out publicly recently to say that if you are a politician and you cannot tell a lie…how then that anyone wants to go into politics? If they can openly say such a thing, it means they have been deceiving the people all this while. So, I don’t really know. Any good politician must, first and foremost, must have the fear of God in him. A responsible politician, irrespective of the office you are vying for—because they say whatever has a beginning must have an end—must begin by developing the fear of God in him because by and by your tenure will eventually come to an end. It’s because of greed that most of them are clamouring for second or more terms. Any politician that has finished his first term and is asking for a second term, there is something wrong with him. If we look at it critically, after four years what is he clamouring for a second term for? I cannot understand Nigerians. Some of us are damn greedy. They don’t have the fear and respect for the down trodden. Now they are up and about the whole place…they can even lick your boot now because they are canvassing for votes, but as soon as they get the votes they begin to show you pepper. They don’t regard the poor citizens that are out there; forgetting that someday and one day they may return to the status quo. Whatever has a beginning must have an end. This is the time you get them talking but they won’t look at their manifestoes, but because they want to get to power they are going to everybody. Some of them have come to me here and I told them off: one of the first thing you’ve got to do is get religion off your mind because it is like putting petrol in a fire. You don’t mix politics with religion and some people came to me, saying, ‘Look at the situation in Lagos, what are we going to do?’ What are you going to do? Are they your God? Do they own the nation? The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. Any clergyman that mixes religion with politics is finished including their church because they will not be spared. Politicians are taking their campaigns to churches. Is it a healthy development? It is not! They should keep religion out of politics. Don’t forget each person has his or her own mind. During harvest, you have the priest and the assistant priest and you go out to invite another priest to preach, that will affect what I am going give, because I have already made up my mind on what I am going to give. They come to church to canvas for votes. It should not be allowed by anybody. I don’t really know what to do because this election, hmm hmm hmm, I am afraid. Imagine their utterances! Look at what Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd) said about Shariah in 2011, that is what they are harping on now in 2015. Why? When did you hear about Shariah last? This kind of thing is annoying. Look at the recent campaign launch that produced over N21 billion. Where did they get the money from when people are hungry? No water. No electricity. No roads. I just wonder what kind of government we have in this country. These are all corrupt persons and they will want me to cast their vote for them. Source: http://www..com.ng
|
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by vanbonattel: 12:11pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
That place needs to be closed enough of the brainwashing for monetary gains people should go to church to pray to God and not play politics |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by hyfr(m): 12:16pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
.old. We're waiting on fr.mbaka's reply |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by hushmail: 12:19pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
in matters of religion and faith, I prefer to thread softly ![]() |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by lomprico(m): 12:20pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
vanbonattel:Likewise all the shilo camp, redeem camp, mfm camp, deeper life camp and the likes. 1 Like |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by bigtt76(f): 1:11pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
Its just a summary of what the Church in Nigeria has turned to ...nor worray your head Cardinal, closing the place would only turn the Rev into a celebrity overnight ...he is currently though ![]() Ona Pope sef not faring any better. Each we we hear of things purportedly said by the Pope though largely unsubstantiated shaa ![]() |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Orunto: 1:44pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
MBaka has nothing to say. He is corrupt and satanic. There are sufficient evidences to leave him to God to punish him the way of Judas Iscariot. 1 Like |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Orunto: 1:48pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
He should be excommunicated to evil forest to hang. |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Orunto: 1:53pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
That is like giving satan the victory. Excommunicate the Judas and reorganise. |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by PhockPhockMan: 2:18pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
Orunto:Ive been suspecting that Mbaka for long time now. |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by Orunto: 2:20pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
Vote GEJ with a landslide, and before 2019, GEJ shall appoint a GOS(General Oversear of the Sanctuary) of GON(God Of Nigeria) that will accommodate all Churches, Mosques and Shrines of all sorts under the GOS, for a common policy of worshipping God, Allah, Omnipotent, Omniscient, Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding etc Of Nigeria under one meaning. God shall direct GEJ.. |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by udyheart01(m): 2:32pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
Seriously Nobody Can Fight Against Whom God Has Blessed GEJ started as an Assistant School Prefect To School prefect. From Deputy Gov. To Gov. VP. To President. I May not Know All About Him Because Am Not A Nigerian. But I Think GEJ Is Blessed. He Must Complete His Course! #GEJ2019 #WhetherYouVoteHimOrNot #GodBlessNigeria! 1 Like |
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: I’ll Close Adoration Ground If…. —cardinal Olubunmi Okogie by uzeba(m): 2:39pm On Jan 11, 2015 |
That why i don't like men of God to be involve in a political talk!! |
(1) (Reply)
I Will Restructure The Army And Police "Buhari / Buhari Is A Careless Citizen (a Lesson To Everyone) / ABIA :breaking News!breaking News!!breaking News!!!
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 28 |