GreenandGold:


Trying to get even because Boko Haram is better than the Nigerian Armed Forces

the nigerian army killed over 200 boko haram fighters yesterday at askira-uba,does that sound like an army that is weaker than boko haram?

jln115:

If every one makes MRAPS, why are they importing them from us?
BTW we also export or exported in the last 10 years:
MRAPs
Fighter Jets
Trainer Jets
Tanks
Howitzers
Sniper rifles
Missile systems
Attack Helos
Simulators
etc..etc..ect

You only have 9 Gripen pilots, have you already began exporting the mothballed Gripen Jets to mexico ?

You don't export attack helicopters, you don't even have them, you only got 10.

Trainer jets, you can't export what you don't have.

Sniper rifles, you don't export them either.

Simulators, day dreaming again, you should be more concerned with simulating your 9 Gripen pilots to 26.

Tanks, quit smoking weed, it apparently is too strong for your feeble brain.

Howitzers, you only got 40, are you planning on exporting your lowly 40 howitzers?

MRAPs, A farmer in Namibia makes them. The only reason a couple countries bought your MRAPs was because demand far surpassed their various domestic supplies.

Today, orders have ceased, as the Bushmaster, fennek, CS/VP3, Cougar, BMC kirpi, kaya, dingo, Typhoon have met all demands.

Not even Somalia want your MRAPs, they instead went for the kaya.

Henry120:


You only have 9 Gripen pilots, have you already began exporting the mothballed Gripen Jets to mexico ?

You don't export attack helicopters, you don't even have them, you only got 10.

Trainer jets, you can't export what you don't have.

Sniper rifles, you don't export them either.

Simulators, day dreaming again, you should be more concerned with simulating your 9 Gripen pilots to 26.

Tanks, quit smoking weed, it apparently is too strong for your feeble brain.

Howitzers, you only got 40, are you planning on exporting your lowly 40 howitzers?

MRAPs, A farmer in Namibia makes them. The only reason a couple countries bought your MRAPs was because demand far surpassed their various domestic supplies.

Today, orders have ceased, as the Bushmaster, fennek, CS/VP3, Cougar, BMC kirpi, kaya, dingo, Typhoon have met all demands.

Not even Somalia want your MRAPs, they instead went for the kaya.

I can see how un-educated you are:
+-12 Cheetah Fighters to Ecuador
12 Impala Trainer jets to Brazil
We Exported Super Hinds to Algeria
We export Denel NTW 20 Anti Material Rifles
72 G6 Howitzers to UAE
ThoroughTec exported simulator to Australian, Swedish and Croatian militaries .

Henry120:


Nigeria has Nigeria to supply to. When we are done meeting our domestic demands then we can truly export.

Last year, Proforce Defence got a French government contract for a supply of APC's.

We just started, yet have already began exporting.

Nigeria. Is nowhere.

ZERO equipment exports.

agaugust:


Nigeria does not have enough, so why export?

SA exports to nations that have more than you have....Algeria has a bigger and better air force than Southies dream of
.

That increases our influence and allies.

Israel exports to nations that have more than what they have....

Demand means South Africa increases the capabilities of its defence industry, if war was to knock on SA's door the SA military can transform to a monster in a short time.

EVarn:
which does the SANDF lack?.i daresay that that the tanzanians are more skilled than the SANDF.

Combat on the ground in the DRC proved otherwise.

overhypedsteve:
lol. Diplomacy? Seems like you don't know anything about shaka the zulu. Have you heard anything about his scotch earth policy?

Yes, both diplomatically and militarily.

Did you know: He once sent his diplomats to Bolobedu, to meet the rain queen.

jln115:

I can see how un-educated you are:
+-12 Cheetah Fighters to Ecuador
12 Impala Trainer jets to Brazil
We Exported Super Hinds to Algeria
We export Denel NTW 20 Anti Material Rifles
72 G6 Howitzers to UAE
ThoroughTec exported simulator to Australian, Swedish and Croatian militaries .

G5 MKIII howitzers were sold to Malaysia.

Henry120:


You only have 9 Gripen pilots, have you already began exporting the mothballed Gripen Jets to mexico ?

You don't export attack helicopters, you don't even have them, you only got 10.

Trainer jets, you can't export what you don't have.

Sniper rifles, you don't export them either.

Simulators, day dreaming again, you should be more concerned with simulating your 9 Gripen pilots to 26.

Tanks, quit smoking weed, it apparently is too strong for your feeble brain.

Howitzers, you only got 40, are you planning on exporting your lowly 40 howitzers?

MRAPs, A farmer in Namibia makes them. The only reason a couple countries bought your MRAPs was because demand far surpassed their various domestic supplies.

Today, orders have ceased, as the Bushmaster, fennek, CS/VP3, Cougar, BMC kirpi, kaya, dingo, Typhoon have met all demands.

Not even Somalia want your MRAPs, they instead went for the kaya.

Oh ! What a bashing....like Bash Ali uppercuts !
.

patches689:


Early Rueters reports (from the days following the battle) said so - but as the story progressed, they revised the figure to 13

Show us where the same Reuters journalist revised SANDF casualties to 13 by his own account.

All I see are South Africans revising Seleka casualties to 1,000 via laptop and internet.

Show us the Reuters witness's revised report !
.

GreenandGold:


We will never have 20 000 armed terrorist in South Africa, we're not a failed state like Nigeria.

Reason why you will NEVER war experience like Nigeria ! SANDF has NEVER fought a battle at home.

Tells you why AU puts SANDF under Nigerian army Brigadier in African Union force 2015.

Explains why UN forces SANDF to bow and kneel under the command of little Tanzania in Congo DRC war.

That war experience South Africa does not have, will make you permanent slaves to Nigeria and other African nations that have it

Reason why the simple challenge from Rhino poachers at home, became a defeat for SANDF.

A failed state exiles 500 Rhinos to a non-failed state called Botswana, the failed state that cannot protect it's land is South Africa.

Botswana gives salvation to South Africa, 'weaker' countries saves your azz

MikeCZAR:
G5 MKIII howitzers were sold to Malaysia.

HAHAHAH there were to many to remember,guess i missed that one.

jln115:

I can see how un-educated you are:
+-12 Cheetah Fighters to Ecuador
12 Impala Trainer jets to Brazil
We Exported Super Hinds to Algeria
We export Denel NTW 20 Anti Material Rifles
72 G6 Howitzers to UAE
ThoroughTec exported simulator to Australian, Swedish and Croatian militaries .

You are re-exporting European weapons imported into South African military. You take glory for that?

Nigeria can export our Jaguar jets, F-7 jets, Vickers tanks, etc all because we are replacing them.

So that makes Nigeria an arms exporter ?

The fact that SA exports what it imported, made your position on world arms market rise, and it is a fake impression.

The most expensive South African arms exports are aircraft imported from Europe, used and re-exported, them your arms sales revenue goes up and you claim that you manufactured those weapons.....FRAUD
.

MikeCZAR:
Nigeria. Is nowhere.

ZERO equipment exports.

The biggest arms manufacturer in Africa is EGYPT.

They don't export because they want to use all at home
.

GreenandGold:


Nigeria doesn't make MRAPs

Nigeria has the most modern and most powerful MRAP in Africa
.

This thread is not about manufacturing, it's about what you can do in battle
.

Kafrican:


Common sense is subjective, just because we Kenyans don't say what you want to hear doesn't make less common sense. First of all you should care to know the damn difference between alshabaab and alQaeda,

the 1998 Bombing of the US embassy was carried out by Osama bin Laden, while he was leaving in Sudan - when Sudan was still one Nation. It was the first statement of Osama, against the US.

The other attack on Nov. 14, 2002 -- Terrorist attack at an Israeli-owned hotel in Kikambala- Was carried out by palestinian Terrorists with direct links to alqaeda, The first terrost attack on Kenyan soil actually happended in the 70s carried out by palestinians, they are still holding a grudge atfer Kenya help Israeli free about 120 israeli hostages from Uganda entebe airport in 'Operation Thunderbolt' in wiich palestinian terrost had hijacked an Israeli plane and landed it in Uganda, wich Idi amin supported. Since then there have been many palestinian and Iranian terrorist caught in Kenya with Explosives,.... After the rescue Idi Amin issued orders to retaliate and slaughter several hundred Kenyans present in Uganda, the kenyans had to run away back to Kenya. Thats why Kenya is the strongest Isreali Ally in Africa
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Entebbe

Alshabaab attacks started in 2011, after alshabaab started kidnapping people from Kenya, and Kenya declared war on alshabaab and alshabaab promised to retaliate, thats when alshabaab attacks started.

Alshabaab attacks inside Kenya happen in this manner, they hide among the population, use sleeper cells either created long time ago by alqaeda or created by there sympathizers, take mortor bike throw a grenade in to a restaurant or bar, then run away like cowerds, or in other situations, they send guys on a suicide mission, to launch gun attacks and if police are near-by then they would die as martyrs and if they are not then they escape. Most of the time, they use the minimum number to cause maximu damage.

On the other hand boko-Haram anounce that they are going to attack tomorrow!!! Then they come in there convoys, and when they attack a town, they take control of everything, Everything, including any military barracks near the town, Isnt that a bigger mockery!!! When you guys retaliate, they just attacke another town, it just goes on and on.

And for your info, Kenya too has waged battle with intenal isurjency inside its own soil and won. An e.g is the shifta war between Kenya and somali fighting for territory. After a ceasefire deal was signed, the local population along the boder on wasn't satisfied and they started a bloody insujency that whent of for years, and it was bloody, supported by the then legitimate somali government. and at that time the northern part of Kenya was exlusivly inhabited by Somalis, so don't give us an excuse about your war beeng supported by religious leaders or muslims, every insurjecy has someone supporting it. If you know they support it, why don't you arrest them? Even after declaring a state of emergency in three states, BH still gets its supplies and funding, they still run arround in APCs. You don't have to arrest or Kill every single muslim that supports BH, atleast just take out the guys with pick-ups and APCs and Big anti-aircraft guns for a start so they can stop posting pics showing off to the rest of the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shifta_War

When Kenya has eliminated ALL terrorism 100% on your home soil, come back and criticize Nigeria.

That is common sense
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agaugust:


Reason why you will NEVER war experience like Nigeria ! SANDF has NEVER fought a battle at home.

Tells you why AU puts SANDF under Nigerian army Brigadier in African Union force 2015.

Explains why UN forces SANDF to bow and kneel under the command of little Tanzania in Congo DRC war.

That war experience South Africa does not have, will make you permanent slaves to Nigeria and other African nations that have it

Reason why the simple challenge from Rhino poachers at home, became a defeat for SANDF.

A failed state exiles 500 Rhinos to a non-failed state called Botswana, the failed state that cannot protect it's land is South Africa.

Botswana gives salvation to South Africa, 'weaker' countries saves your azz

Firstly Rhino poaching is a SANparks problem and not the priority of the SANDF
And secondly if you didnt know, its a good thing if you have NEVER fought a battle at home ,it means our defence force is actually doing their job by protecting our boarders ,unfortunitly the same cant be said for the Nigerian armed forces.

agaugust:


When Kenya has eliminated ALL terrorism 100% on your home soil, come back and criticize Nigeria.

That is common sense
.

Nigeria is ranked higher on the Terrorism index than Kenya, so yes they can criticize Nigeria.

agaugust:


Nigeria has the most modern and most powerful MRAP in Africa
.

This thread is not about manufacturing, it's about what you can do in battle
.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! and my grandma is a 21 year old virgin.

jln115:

I can see how un-educated you are:
+-12 Cheetah Fighters to Ecuador
12 Impala Trainer jets to Brazil
We Exported Super Hinds to Algeria
We export Denel NTW 20 Anti Material Rifles
72 G6 Howitzers to UAE
ThoroughTec exported simulator to Australian, Swedish and Croatian militaries .

Here you are, bragging about western equipment you imported, used and transferred to aa different country.

You exported no hinds to Algeria.

Anyway, in that case, Nigeria also is a weapons exporter, we exported Mil Helicopters to New Zealand, and Fighter jets to Equatorial Guinea.

Start simulating your 9 pilots to 26. There is no proof that thoroughtec is a South-African owned company.

Henry120:


Here you are, bragging about western equipment you imported, used and transferred to aa different country.

You exported no hinds to Algeria.

Anyway, in that case, Nigeria also is a weapons exporter, we exported Mil Helicopters to New Zealand, and Fighter jets to Equatorial Guinea.

Start simulating your 9 pilots to 26. There is no proof that thoroughtec is a South-African owned company.

The Super Hind is produced by ATE South Africa, the whole aircraft can either be assembled in SA and then exported, or existing platforms can be upgraded to Super Hind specifications, and yes we did export/Upgrade Algerian Hinds: www.redstar.gr/Foto_red/Eng/Helicopter/SuperHind.html
Secondly what western equipment did we import and then trasferred to a different country?

MikeCZAR:
Nigeria. Is nowhere.

ZERO equipment exports.

Egypt has Africa's largest Defence industry. That industry is geared towards meeting Egyptian defence needs. Very much in the same fashion as Nigeria's.

Henry120:


Egypt has Africa's largest Defence industry. That industry is geared towards meeting Egyptian defence needs. Very much in the same fashion as Nigeria's.

"Egypt has Africa's largest Defence industry".....uhm...NO, South Africa has the largest defence industry in Africa, and one of the Largest in the world.
"Very much in the same fashion as Nigeria's" Actually agree with you there, two Failed states with big Defence forces that cant even protect its own citizens.

Henry120:


18th, really , 18th for selling MRAPs, MRAPs which everybody makes including a farmer in Namibia.

Is this what you want an applause for?

MRAP's, communications equipment, optics, sniper rifels, MGL's, body armor, AGLs, artillery peices, artillery ammunition, missiles, upgraded Mirages, Upgraded Hinds, Upgraded T-72's, vehical turrets, 30mm cannons, mortars etc etc etc

agaugust:


Reason why you will NEVER war experience like Nigeria ! SANDF has NEVER fought a battle at home.

Tells you why AU puts SANDF under Nigerian army Brigadier in African Union force 2015.

Explains why UN forces SANDF to bow and kneel under the command of little Tanzania in Congo DRC war.

That war experience South Africa does not have, will make you permanent slaves to Nigeria and other African nations that have it

Reason why the simple challenge from Rhino poachers at home, became a defeat for SANDF.

A failed state exiles 500 Rhinos to a non-failed state called Botswana, the failed state that cannot protect it's land is South Africa.

Botswana gives salvation to South Africa, 'weaker' countries saves your azz

1. No SANDF troops are under AU command

2. Tanzanian commander was the cheaper option, and who actually commanded SANDF troops?

3. SANDF were not defeated by Rhino poachers - its law enforcement

4. A failed state? A failed state has vast swaths of its land under the controll of enemy combatants, a failed state has allmost 20 armed insurgent groups, a failed state has minimal infastructure, the majority in poverty, tops the world terror rankings and has 1,6 million people displaced. Is that South Africa i am describing or Nigeria?

(btw, Nigeria is the 16th most failed state in the world)
http://ffp.statesindex.org/nigeria

Face it, there is no warfare on SA soil as we have competant security forces and we are not a fragmented failed state like Nigeria.

agaugust:


You are re-exporting European weapons imported into South African military. You take glory for that?

Nigeria can export our Jaguar jets, F-7 jets, Vickers tanks, etc all because we are replacing them.

So that makes Nigeria an arms exporter ?

The fact that SA exports what it imported, made your position on world arms market rise, and it is a fake impression.

The most expensive South African arms exports are aircraft imported from Europe, used and re-exported, them your arms sales revenue goes up and you claim that you manufactured those weapons.....FRAUD
.

Lol, this guy doesnt know that the Mirage we sell has been extensively modified and is comparable in quality and performance to the F-15 E Strike eagle in terms of ground attack ability

Henry120:


Egypt has Africa's largest Defence industry. That industry is geared towards meeting Egyptian defence needs. Very much in the same fashion as Nigeria's.

No

and

No - your arms industry is akin to the finger paintings of a 5 year old child

Henry120:


Here you are, bragging about western equipment you imported, used and transferred to aa different country.

You exported no hinds to Algeria.

Anyway, in that case, Nigeria also is a weapons exporter, we exported Mil Helicopters to New Zealand, and Fighter jets to Equatorial Guinea.

Start simulating your 9 pilots to 26. There is no proof that thoroughtec is a South-African owned company.

thoroughtec is a South African company based in Durban, just check out their website.

Henry120:


You only have 9 Gripen pilots, have you already began exporting the mothballed Gripen Jets to mexico ?

You don't export attack helicopters, you don't even have them, you only got 10.

Trainer jets, you can't export what you don't have.

Sniper rifles, you don't export them either.

Simulators, day dreaming again, you should be more concerned with simulating your 9 Gripen pilots to 26.

Tanks, quit smoking weed, it apparently is too strong for your feeble brain.

Howitzers, you only got 40, are you planning on exporting your lowly 40 howitzers?

MRAPs, A farmer in Namibia makes them. The only reason a couple countries bought your MRAPs was because demand far surpassed their various domestic supplies.

Today, orders have ceased, as the Bushmaster, fennek, CS/VP3, Cougar, BMC kirpi, kaya, dingo, Typhoon have met all demands.

Not even Somalia want your MRAPs, they instead went for the kaya.

lmao. that chairman can lie. Nor be only fighter jet them dey export, them dey also export space shuttles and aircraft carrier.

MikeCZAR:
Combat on the ground in the DRC proved otherwise.

seriously?,what was the SANDF contributions in DRC?.you werent even deployed for active combat!

overhypedsteve:
lmao. that chairman can lie. Nor be only fighter jet them dey export, them dey also export space shuttles and aircraft carrier.

WTF? English Please!