Not only did South Africa save Nigeria from the chains of military rule, now South Africa also saved Nigeria's president from assassination.

It is what it is.


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“Okar bombed Abuja and the attempt was to assassinate me but intelligence report from South Africa hinted me on the plan to assassinate me. He is now in jail in South Africa and they said MEND dumped Jonathan. Okar that wanted to assassinate Jonathan, will he support Jonathan?’’


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/why-i-should-be-re-elected-jonathan/

DieVluit:
Not only did South Africa save Nigeria from the chains of military rule, now South Africa also saved Nigeria's president from assassination.

It is what it is.


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“Okar bombed Abuja and the attempt was to assassinate me but intelligence report from South Africa hinted me on the plan to assassinate me. He is now in jail in South Africa and they said MEND dumped Jonathan. Okar that wanted to assassinate Jonathan, will he support Jonathan?’’


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/why-i-should-be-re-elected-jonathan/

20,000 Boko Haram have not been able with their 1,000 suicide bombers, to even reach the gate of Jonathan's house.

You don't know who saved Nigerians from military rule, it was Nigerians themselves, NADECO coalition led by Nobel prize winner Prof. Soyinka and the EMINENT NIGERIANS G34 group led by Ex-Vice President Ekwueme, those are the two forces (Apart from individual Nigerians, the masses, and giant activists like Chief Gani Fawahinmi the legal luminary)

History records the truth....South African and ALL South African are missing on the list, they did NOTHING for Nigeria

Since South Africa has NO SINGLE concrete achievement done for Africa, and you are desperate to find one, please look elsewhere.

[size=16pt]http://www.onlinenigeria.com/abacha_last_days.asp[/size]

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When Boko Haram arrived in Baga, the soldiers did what they do best: THEY IMMEDIATELY FLED




Boko Haram's massacre in Nigeria: what happened and why
Updated by Max Fisher on January 10, 2015, 2:50 p.m. ET @Max_Fisher max@vox.com

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The Nigerian terrorist group Boko Haram launched its worst attack ever in the northeastern town of Baga, where it killed hundreds or possibly more.
The motivation is unclear, but it appears aimed at intimidating Nigerians into not voting in the coming presidential election.
Key context is the military's indifference to northern Nigerian lives. Its troops fled almost immediately, and had itself previously massacred Baga's residents.
What we know about the attack
No one knows for sure how many people the Nigerian terrorist group Boko Haram slaughtered during its six-day rampage in the northeastern town of Baga. A lone and speculative early report said 2,000 dead, though subsequent counts suggest "dozens" or "hundreds." But there is little question this is a massacre of breathtaking and possibly unprecedented severity, even for Boko Haram. If you zoom out, though, you can see that a crucial part of this story is the Nigerian military's repeated and demonstrated indifference to the lives of northern Nigerians.

Here is what appears to have happened: On Saturday, January 3, Boko Haram fighters in pickup trucks drove up to a military outpost in Baga. The Nigerian troops immediately began fleeing; Boko Haram captured the outpost by noon. In the next few days, the group raided surrounding villages, killing civilians. On Wednesday, it overran Baga itself, beginning a days-long process of methodically razing buildings and killing everyone the group saw.

"When they neutralized the soldiers, they proceeded to Baga and started killing everyone on sight," a witness told the New York Times. "There was no pity in their eyes. Even old men and children were killed."

Here is what we know about why they did it: It is still not totally clear why Boko Haram so viciously attacked Baga. But the closest thing to evidence of a motive came on Friday. As Boko Haram slaughtered Baga's residents, its fighters visited several nearby villages. They shot villagers, apparently at random, and commanded the survivors not to vote, the Wall Street Journal reports.

Boko Haram condemns democracy itself as religiously forbidden; on Thursday, its leader had released a video ranting against democracy in all its forms, and it has long stated that voting is a crime. Nigeria is in the middle of a presidential campaign and is gearing up for a presidential election on February 14.

The country is roughly split between Muslims and Christians; ironically, Boko Haram's anti-democracy attacks could swing the election in favor of incumbent President Goodluck Jonathan, a Christian, by suppressing turnout among mostly Muslim northern Nigerians who would likely vote against him.

The bigger picture: the Nigerian military's failure
A Nigerian woman walks past burned homes in Baga in 2013, shortly after the military destroyed much of the town (AFP/Getty Images)

A Nigerian woman walks past burned homes in Baga in 2013, shortly after the military destroyed much of the town (AFP/Getty Images)

Like the larger story of Boko Haram itself, the story of the Baga massacre is a story of Boko Haram's depravity but also of the Nigerian military's abject failure.

It is not just that the Nigerian troops stationed in Baga fled almost immediately on Boko Haram's arrival. The military has itself played a role in Baga's terror. In April 2013, a handful of Boko Haram fighters ambushed some Nigerian troops near Baga. In response, the military stormed Baga, burning down thousands of homes and killing 200 people.

This is wholly consistent with the Nigerian military's conduct in its so-called fight against Boko Haram in northern Nigeria, where the group operates.

The heavy-handed military — which, recall, ruled as dictators not so long ago — has been accused time and again of atrocities in its campaign against Boko Haram. They are typically accused of targeting civilians, but sometimes, they kill out of what appears to be simple incompetence. In March 2014, for example, some very brave northern Nigerians alerted the military that Boko Haram was operating near their village. The military did nothing for several days, then bombed the village, killing the very people who'd tried to help, by which time Boko Haram had left.

None of this created Boko Haram, but it helps provide an environment where the group is able to operate more widely and freely than it otherwise could. The military's utter failures, and at times active efforts to commit atrocities, are a crucial component of the Boko Haram story, nationally and in Baga.

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http://www.vox.com/2015/1/10/7525199/nigeria-boko-haram-attack

patches689:


Lol, this guy doesnt know that the Mirage we sell has been extensively modified and is comparable in quality and performance to the F-15 E Strike eagle in terms of ground attack ability

SAAF Mirage was modified into Cheetah jet by ISRAEL not you !
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I'm

agaugust:



20,000 Boko Haram have not been able with their 1,000 suicide bombers, to even reach the gate of Jonathan's house.

You don't know who saved Nigerians from military rule, it was Nigerians themselves, NADECO coalition led by Nobel prize winner Prof. Soyinka and the EMINENT NIGERIANS G34 group led by Ex-Vice President Ekwueme, those are the two forces (Apart from individual Nigerians, the masses, and giant activists like Chief Gani Fawahinmi the legal luminary)

History records the truth....South African and ALL South African are missing on the list, they did NOTHING for Nigeria

Since South Africa has NO SINGLE concrete achievement done for Africa, and you are desperate to find one, please look elsewhere.

[size=16pt]http://www.onlinenigeria.com/abacha_last_days.asp[/size]


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MEND is not Boko haram. As we speak, Henry Okah sits in a south African prison eating pap. We saved Jonathan alright. Jonathan CONFIRMED it himself.

jln115:

The Super Hind is produced by ATE South Africa, the whole aircraft can either be assembled in SA and then exported, or existing platforms can be upgraded to Super Hind specifications, and yes we did export/Upgrade Algerian Hinds: www.redstar.gr/Foto_red/Eng/Helicopter/SuperHind.html
Secondly what western equipment did we import and then trasferred to a different country?

Cheetah jet is French made Mirage.

Alouette Helicopters form France.

European artillery, and any Impalas (Italy made) and naval boats you may have re-sold.

Also many smaller arms , go check on SIPRI

jln115:

Nigeria is ranked higher on the Terrorism index than Kenya, so yes they can criticize Nigeria.

Two sick men....both need a doctor, his ulcer is bigger than mine....you both have ulcer
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patches689:


(btw, Nigeria is the 16th most failed state in the world)
http://ffp.statesindex.org/nigeria

No failed state seats on UN Security council seat, Nigeria seats there, and is top contender for permanent UN elite security council seat.

Failed states don't lead ECOWAS and AU military missions

Failed states don't host World Economic Forum meetings.

Failed states have NO defined political structure. Failed states don't hold fee and fair elections.

Nigeria is just state at war, Somalia is more like a failed state. Nigeria has a central government and it enforces law.

So United Kingdom was a failed state for 27 years because IRA rebels were waging religious war on British home soil? Fool

War experience comes by fighting, Nigeria has that experience that South Africa is craving for and not getting

@Patches has a FAILED BRAIN
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DieVluit:
I'm

MEND is not Boko haram. As we speak, Henry Okah sits in a south African prison eating pap. We saved Jonathan alright. Jonathan CONFIRMED it himself.

Nope, he did not say you did, Jonathan said intelligence reports from South Africa, not your Southie government report, there are 500,000 Nigerians in South Africa, plus a Nigerian embassy with military men and intelligence agents working from inside South Africa. Nigerian network of intel inside South Africa saved Jonathan. American CIA is in South Africa, they can get information and send it to Obama to save him.

That is how countries work in espionage circles
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agaugust:

Nope, he did not say you did, Jonathan said intelligence reports from South Africa, not your Southie government report, there are 500,000 Nigerians in South Africa, plus a Nigerian embassy with military men and intelligence agents working from inside South Africa. Nigerian network of intel inside South Africa saved Jonathan. American CIA is in South Africa, they can get information and send it to Obama to save him.
That is how countries work in espionage circles
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He said it.

Intelligence reports from south africa saved Jonathan = south africa saved Jonathan.

South africas courts saved Jonathan = South Africa saved Jonathan.

You can't run away from it.

We saved the chief of our colonial subjects.

We know there are nigerian refugees in south africa.

agaugust:


Cheetah jet is French made Mirage.

Alouette Helicopters form France.

European artillery, and any Impalas (Italy made) and naval boats you may have re-sold.

Also many smaller arms , go check on SIPRI

G6+G5 Artillery=South African
Cheetah c,d,e= South African
Impala is an extensively modified Aermacchi MB-326
Lastly: Dont now why you brought up the Alouette Topic as i didnt refer to them at all.

agaugust:


No failed state seats on UN Security council seat, Nigeria seats there, and is top contender for permanent UN elite security council seat.

Failed states don't lead ECOWAS and AU military missions

Failed states don't host World Economic Forum meetings.

Failed states have NO defined political structure. Failed states don't hold fee and fair elections.

Nigeria is just state at war, Somalia is more like a failed state. Nigeria has a central government and it enforces law.

So United Kingdom was a failed state for 27 years because IRA rebels were waging religious war on British home soil? Fool

War experience comes by fighting, Nigeria has that experience that South Africa is craving for and not getting

@Patches has a FAILED BRAIN
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"War experience comes by fighting, Nigeria has that experience that South Africa is craving for and not getting"
How retaaarded are you?
Why would we be craving for war?

agaugust:


Two sick men....both need a doctor, his ulcer is bigger than mine....you both have ulcer
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Whats your point?That Nigeria has a bigger problem with terrorism than Kenya?

agaugust:


When Kenya has eliminated ALL terrorism 100% on your home soil, come back and criticize Nigeria.

That is common sense
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No terrorist runs towns in Kenya..... Kenya does something you cowards will never do.

EVarn:
the nigerian army killed over 200 boko haram fighters yesterday at askira-uba,does that sound like an army that is weaker than boko haram?

You can kill millions of them, the fact that they're holding land in your country means they're more powerful.

agaugust:


No failed state seats on UN Security council seat, Nigeria seats there, and is top contender for permanent UN elite security council seat.

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First, its a rotating seat.. we also hold it.

Second, a security council seat doesn't mean anything to Boko Haram as they constantly embarras you with it.

Fact: You're a failed state, Boko Haram is laughing at your face

Henry120:



Not even Somalia want your MRAPs, they instead went for the kaya.

Lol... honestly who cares about Somalia with a puny military budget, let the small fish scramble for those bread crumbs.

South Africa sells to the big dogs, the likes of the US, Canada, Ireland, Iraq, Egypt, Finland, UN etc..... we don't fvck around

agaugust:


SAAF Mirage was modified into Cheetah jet by ISRAEL not you !
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Show us a single sentence which says that "SAAF Mirage was modified into Cheetah jet by ISRAEL".

[size=20pt]Nigeria has never exported a single bullet in history - they're begging South Africa for weapons [/size]

GreenandGold:
You can kill millions of them,the fact that they're holding group in your country means they're more powerful

mumu!.
do you know how many terrorist 'sleeper cell' are in the US?,according to intelligence report,terrorist cells are located in strategic geographical areas of the US,but they are considered 'dormant'.now,three days ago,2 islamic terrorists struck terror and panic in paris,the heart of france,and a western capital for that matter.they succeded in killing over 12 people.a day later,another self acclaimed jihadist,who according intelligence report,had ties with the notorious nigerian terrorist,Um`ar hassan{the jihadist who attempted to bomb an american-bound plane containing 300 people},held a paris mall hostage,and succeeded in killing 4 people before being killed.about three months ago,a terrorist nearly got a shot at the canadian president and killing the whole canadian parliament.
now tell me,arent terrorists "holding group" in these countries?

jl115:

WTF? English Please!

did i quote you Mr? I did not quote you so you owe me an apology for quoting me and swearing in reply. This you would have to do Or have me regard you as a common, uncultured tout with internet access.

EVarn:
mumu!.
do you know how many terrorist 'sleeper cell' are in the US?,according to intelligence report,terrorist cells are located in strategic geographical areas of the US,but they are considered 'dormant'.now,three days ago,2 islamic terrorists struck terror and panic in paris,the heart of france,and a western capital for that matter.they succeded in killing over 12 people.a day later,another self acclaimed jihadist,who according intelligence report,had ties with the notorious nigerian terrorist,Um`ar hassan{the jihadist who attempted to bomb an american-bound plane containing 300 people},held a paris mall hostage,and succeeded in killing 4 people before being killed.about three months ago,a terrorist nearly got a shot at the canadian president and killing the whole canadian parliament.
now tell me,arent terrorists "holding group" in these countries?

You quote me then took almost 30 minutes trying to answer me.... "holding land" is the word.

Terrorists don't hold any land in any of the countries you listed, even Kenya.... Nigeria is Somalia where terrorist run supreme.

GreenandGold:
[size=20pt]Nigeria has never exported a single bullet in history - they're begging South Africa for weapons [/size]

beg?..rather,we buy weapons from the numerous FOREIGN arm companies located in SA.

overhypedsteve:
did i quote you Mr? I did not quote you so you owe me an apology for quoting me and swearing in reply. This you would have to do Or have me regard you as a common, uncultured tout with internet access.

Ill apologize the day you learn basic english comprehension skills.

GreenandGold:



You quote me then took almost 30 minutes trying to answer me.... "holding land" is the word.

Terrorists don't hold any land in any of the countries you listed, even Kenya.... Nigeria is Somalia where terrorist run supreme.

holding land,as you call it,is just an ideal sentiment.terrorist cells that secretly operate in many western countries,also 'hold land' in those countries.you cant compare kenya with nigeria.in kenya,the islamic influence is very weak,the modicum of islamic penetration that is present is due to somalia's influence.but in nigeria,the islamic influence is relatively potent,especially in the north.

The Nigerian military says military training in nigeria has been kak for years. But we knew that already.

http://www.today.ng/news/nigerian-military-worried-over-quality-of-officers-produced-by-nda/

jl115:

Ill apologize the day you learn basic english comprehension skills.

I knew you would bring up this issue of English comprehension. Guess you must have studied English in Harvard. You re the first contributor here to complain about a reply not meant for you. Those words were written in nigerian pidgin. You should expect that cus you re in a nigerian forum. Try chatting in an Indian forum, Mr English comprehension.

Baga: the carnage, inaccurate reportage and Government ‘indifference’ Part 1

[b]Last week, the world was inundated with news of the attack on Baga town by the extremist group, Jama'atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda'Awati Wal-Jihad ("People Committed to the Prophet's Teachings for Propagation and Jihad", otherwise known as Boko Haram. Baga is in the north-eastern Nigerian Borno State, close to Lake Chad. It lies north-east of the town of Kukawa which is the headquarters of the Kukawa Local Government Area. The town is approximately 196km from Maiduguri, the capital of Borno State.

Indeed, Baga is more or less a border community and this played a significant role in its being chosen as headquarters of the Multinational Joint Task Force MJTF, comprising troops from Nigeria, Chad, Niger and Cameroon—put together as a multilateral response to neutralising the menace posed by Boko Haram. To the residents of Baga town, and given the various brushes they have had with the extremist group, it is doubtful if this joint force is actually worth the piece of paper containing the instruments that decreed its existence.

The attack last week came on the heels of the withdrawal of Chadian forces from the base at Baga, two days before Boko Haram came calling. According to Nigerian security sources quoted by domestic media, the Chadians claimed they were rotating their troops. The Cameroonians have never contributed to the force, while the Nigeriens, in the aftermath of the attack in question, have announced that they will not be sending troops anytime soon. According to foreign media sources, Niger’s foreign minister, Mohamed Bazoum, has clearly affirmed that his country would not step in to help recapture the area.

At this very moment, Nigerian forces are involved in coordinated ground and air operations to dislodge the terror group from Baga, discountenancing any regional support for such effort. If past history is anything to go by, they will prevail soonest but what often happens after that (revenge attacks by the group in the face of poor garrisoning efforts by security forces) is raising apprehension already. Perhaps, relying on a regional strategy was useful for mobilising against Boko Haram in the first place, but domestic observers of Nigerian diplomacy have always felt that such regional effort should only be political, while Nigeria single-handedly provide a military response, something they believe she is capable of doing as long as the local population in areas sympathetic to Boko Haram sided with the authorities.

So how did Nigeria get to this sorry pass? Indeed, several successes have been made by Nigerian forces against Boko Haram, but these are hardly reported, even by the domestic press in Nigeria. Should Boko Haram take a town somewhere however, it is often reported with glee by both local and foreign media. The pattern of the insurgency over the past year has been such that Boko Haram, with the exception of a few towns, actually is not controlling the expanse of territory ascribed to it by the press. It is usually flushed out of any town or village it has taken, often a few days after such ‘capture,’ by Nigerian forces. The group is however quite adept at propaganda and seems ahead of the Nigerians in utilising this to maximum advantage.[/b]
Read more at http://www.gaiya.net/

overhypedsteve:
lmao. that chairman can lie. Nor be only fighter jet them dey export, them dey also export space shuttles and aircraft carrier.

Na so dem dey do.

jl115:

thoroughtec is a South African company based in Durban, just check out their website.

I can only see thoroughtec Australia. It is an Australian company with an office in S.A.

Can I also claim Shell, Mobil and Elf as been Nigerian, seeing they have offices here, or Streit group?

jln115:

"Egypt has Africa's largest Defence industry".....uhm...NO, South Africa has the largest defence industry in Africa, and one of the Largest in the world.
"Very much in the same fashion as Nigeria's" Actually agree with you there, two Failed states with big Defence forces that cant even protect its own citizens.

Seeing you have no active insurgencies yet you guys have managed to murder 69 of yourselves on a daily basis in South-Africa.

The mere thought of what would happen in South-Africa if you had active insurgencies like Nigeria and Egypt is nightmarish.

Yes, Egypt has Africa's largest Defence industry.

jln115:

The Super Hind is produced by ATE South Africa, the whole aircraft can either be assembled in SA and then exported, or existing platforms can be upgraded to Super Hind specifications, and yes we did export/Upgrade Algerian Hinds: www.redstar.gr/Foto_red/Eng/Helicopter/SuperHind.html
Secondly what western equipment did we import and then trasferred to a different country?

A Russian Hind, a French Mirage and an Italian amerrachi trainer are now South-African products?

You South-Africans are very funny.