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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 3:38pm On Jan 14, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:50pm On Jan 14, 2015
Patchesagain:


[citation needed]

No need of citation, its all over this forum and Henrys photo thread splashed everywhere...2 stealth OPVs, 2 stealth MPVs , 60 stealth IPVs, many Shaldags, OCEAs, and the hundreds of Nigerian navy smaller boats all brand new.

Only a fool needs citation to prove that.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:17pm On Jan 14, 2015
Patchesagain:


Actually 2 if needed

And thats 2 frigates and one sub more than you

We have a navy

You have a coast guard

Nope, we have a navy doing coast guard duties because there is no conventional sea war in Nigeria.

No coast guard carries Otomat, Aspide misssiles, and torpedoes on ships, that is a navy
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:25pm On Jan 14, 2015
Patchesagain:


I have allready compared the missiles

Yours were found to be massivly inferior

Our missile is even faster than yours, vital in close combat WVR, your missiles are damn inferior
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:27pm On Jan 14, 2015
NaijaPikinGidi:


What was on your warped mind when you typed the line above? I have not had any discussion along the lines of the bolded. Your incompetence must be hounding you? Even in my calculated silence it's so obvious how much respect you have for me as your professional mentor.

Voetsek!
You can't answer the question Mr "I know my job"?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:29pm On Jan 14, 2015
EVarn:
my,what do we have here.....a saffer prejudiced against 'winking'?....winking means what?.please enlighten me mr mike.*winks*
You're the same guy who was "rolling eyes" here months ago?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:30pm On Jan 14, 2015
EVarn:
Nigeria is the biggest terrorist killer in the world.last year alone,a total of over 6329 boko haram fighters were killed by the Nigerian army{and thats isnt counting those who were smashed or pulverized into dust during battle},and another over 2450 were arrested and put into custody,while hundreds were rescued from further radicalization.
last year alone,the Nigeria army conducted over 6000 airstrikes in the north east,and deployed over 150 special-ops,21 SBS operatives,close to 40 SSS{DSS} operatives,370 tanks,20 wardogs,hundreds of APCs,and stationed 4 operational satellites in lower hyper-space.
Only Nigeria has successfully contained islamic terrorism to a small part of the NE on the border with chad and cameroon;even US-trained iraqi troops fall short of such ostentanous standard.US-trained iraq and NATO-aided syria have battled terrorism{ISIS} for less than 3 years,and yet,most of their territories{about 65%} have been so far seized by ISIS.

That's a good novel for children to read.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:32pm On Jan 14, 2015
EVarn:
of course NATO can never fall apart!,the US would never allow such catastrophe.if the NATO ever falls,russia will reassemble the USSR in a matter of a few years,and if the USSR ever ressurects,it would spell doom for the 3rd world which is led by the US!.the UN will scatter like pollen grains in the winds,it would mean war,a brutal clash of civilization,with russia gaining a semblance of alliance from the muslim world.
what i was saying is that,the EU is facing a severe economic relapse,and with greece due to vote against austerity measures,germany against greece's ambitious move,portugal facing near depression,and the UK unhappy with the whole situation,the EU may collapse;especially if greece,germany and the UK withdraws.
Even if the EU was to fall apart it wouldn't affect former EU countries relations with the USA.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:32pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


No need of citation, its all over this forum and Henrys photo thread splashed everywhere...2 stealth OPVs, 2 stealth MPVs , 60 stealth IPVs, many Shaldags, OCEAs, and the hundreds of Nigerian navy smaller boats all brand new.

Only a fool needs citation to prove that.

[citation needed]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:33pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, we have a navy doing coast guard duties because there is no conventional sea war in Nigeria.

No coast guard carries Otomat, Aspide misssiles, and torpedoes on ships, that is a navy
.

No operational nigerian naval vessel carries Otomat, Aspide missiles or torpedoes

You dont have a navy

You have a coast guard
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:36pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Our missile is even faster than yours, vital in close combat WVR, your missiles are damn inferior
.



If memory serves me right, your missile has an inferior seeker, is less maneuverable and is more susceptible to counter-measures. All these critierions combine to make ours superior.

Not to mention that ours also outranges yours.

And we arent even talking about the A-darter yet.

As I have said, the missiles have been compared, yours is inferior.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:36pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


South African navy is dead !

Only 1 frigate....and no diesel !

grin grin grin
.


grin grin grin grin grin

You know engaging always leads to this.

Nigeria navy: ZERO frigates

SA Navy: 3 Frigates ready at any given time.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:38pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


NAF F-7 has equal missile capability with SAAF Gripens.

Then Nigeria is replacing F-7 with JF-17 Thunder this very year 2015 !

Go d.ie of envy grin grin
.
Different launch platforms.

Gripen are superior than the F-7, it stands no chance.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:41pm On Jan 14, 2015
patches689:


Nope - its propaganda

NA said their figure is based on photo recon by aircraft, yet they refuse to release the photo's

International Media and NGO figures are based on eye-witness accounts from soldiers and civilians whom were present
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/13/opinion/boko-haram-7-questions/index.html#


Thus, until concrete proof is give, eye witness accounts remain the strongest indication of the number of casualties - it may not be exact, but it is certainly in the 1000's

I remind you again - this all resulted from your FOB being over-run - you told us it was insignificant, it was in empty desert, so you did not need to hold it. You said it was strategy and tactics - but the fact of the matter is that the FOB was a VITAL instillation protecting a major town and strategic point and you allowed it to be over-run with ease which resulted in the death of THOUSANDS of civilains and the destruction of over a dozen villages and towns!! There is no clearer proof of your military's ineptitude and incompetence - not to mention cowardice - than this entire saga

Tell us the names of the eyewitnesses and prove they were in Baga during the war to count dead bodies spread all over a whole town because Baga is not one street, it is a town.

In your South African university educational system, when you write a research paper for academic reckoning, anonymous and unidentifiable sources are superior to official reports from world recognized established institutions like Nigerian army and national defense headquarters, right?

Eyewitness report says 50 SANDF died in Seleka battle, yet you say only 13 died because that is the report by SANDF.

So how does SANDF report become authority but NA report is not?
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:45pm On Jan 14, 2015
rka1:


It is already being done you twit, but you are too daft to see what is going on. Continue reading your on-line publications and be lead like sheep.
grin grin grin grin

Your military is failing to use conventional tactics pushed and smash BH in Baga?

Inside your land? grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:52pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Nope, we have a navy doing coast guard duties because there is no conventional sea war in Nigeria.

No coast guard carries Otomat, Aspide misssiles, and torpedoes on ships, that is a navy
.
Your officers will get into the sea launch those missiles and torpedoes?

Your missiles are expired and have no launch platforms. Aradu is a rusty fish tank.

If two strike craft vessels backed 1 frigate and a replishment ship turned up in your waters, Nigerian navy Chief of stuff would be slapped by Badeh as your oil installations while oil installations are destroyed.

You navy Chief of stuff has no combat capable ships under his combat.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:54pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:




Eyewitness report says 50 SANDF died in Seleka battle, yet you say only 13 died because that is the report by SANDF.

So how does SANDF report become authority but NA report is not?
.
Eyewitness?

Only French soldiers were present when the fallen heroes were loaded into the C-130. They held a parade.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by tdayof(m): 4:57pm On Jan 14, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Eyewitness?

Only French soldiers were present when the fallen heroes were loaded into the C-130. They held a parade.
even rebels boasted killing SANDF troops grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:00pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Tell us the names of the eyewitnesses and prove they were in Baga during the war to count dead bodies spread all over a whole town because Baga is not one street, it is a town.

In your South African university educational system, when you write a research paper for academic reckoning, anonymous and unidentifiable sources are superior to official reports from world recognized established institutions like Nigerian army and national defense headquarters, right?

Eyewitness report says 50 SANDF died in Seleka battle, yet you say only 13 died because that is the report by SANDF.

So how does SANDF report become authority but NA report is not?
.

Because South Africa is a free and open country and international new agencies revised their numbers down to 13 once the SANDF (who they trust) released the names and ranks of the deceased.

This is another topic that is not up for debate - all reputable sources state that the casualties are in the 1000's
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:01pm On Jan 14, 2015
MikeCZAR:
grin grin grin grin

Your military is failing to use conventional tactics pushed and smash BH in Baga?

Inside your land? grin

Pakistan is a world power and gets terror attack in Pakistani land.

France is NATO big power and gets terror attacks in Paris on French land.

Where do you think terrorists attack people, outer space or on the moon?

Rhino poachers are having fun on SANDF's specially owned lands not just the generally tormented Kruger park, the special lands strictly allocated to SANDF has become a playground for rampaging illiterate Rhino poachers and your fvcking army and air force CANNOT stop them. cheesycheesycheesy
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:03pm On Jan 14, 2015
tdayof:
even rebels boasted killing SANDF troops grin

And so?

Official numbers are official numbers.

In South Africa it is illegal for the SANDF to hide casualties, because of a High Court Ruling in the 1980's regarding the issuing of the names of SADF personal who were killed in top secret missions in Angola.

Thats right, the oppressive army of the Apartheid Regime was more transparent than the Nigerian Army of today
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:04pm On Jan 14, 2015
tdayof:
even rebels boasted killing SANDF troops grin
they did.

What matters is the kill ratio, one side lost 1 soldier at the cost of 50+ rebel fighters.

They couldn't meet their objectives while the SA soldiers stood to fight.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:07pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Pakistan is a world power and gets terror attack in Pakistani land.

France is NATO big power and gets terror attacks in Paris on French land.

Where do you think terrorists attack people, outer space or on the moon?

Rhino poachers are having fun on SANDF's specially owned lands not just the generally tormented Kruger park, the special lands strictly allocated to SANDF has become a playground for rampaging illiterate Rhino poachers and your fvcking army and air force CANNOT stop them. cheesycheesycheesy
.

First, none of those countrys have suffered 2000 terror casualties in a week

Second, none of those countries have vast swaths of their land under the 24/7 controll of terrorists

Third, what sources do you have regarding poaching on SANDF land?

Fourth, anti-poaching is not an SANDF responsibility - they simply deploy in support of law enforcement from time to time.

Fact remains that the SANDF has secured our borders (something the NA cannot do) and has vanqusihed 2 terror/rebel groups all in the last 24 months

In the last 24 month the NA's acheivements are:
- topping world terror rankings
- lossing massive parts of the country to BH
- committing war-crimes and acts of genocide
- massive desertions and dereliction of duty
- cowardice in the face of the enemy
- collusion with the enemy
- mutiny
- allowing 1,6 million nigerians to be displaced from their homes
- not finding the 200 school girls

Facts are facts, and the fact is that your military is a joke.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 5:09pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Pakistan is a world power and gets terror attack in Pakistani land.

France is NATO big power and gets terror attacks in Paris on French land.

Where do you think terrorists attack people, outer space or on the moon?

Rhino poachers are having fun on SANDF's specially owned lands not just the generally tormented Kruger park, the special lands strictly allocated to SANDF has become a playground for rampaging illiterate Rhino poachers and your fvcking army and air force CANNOT stop them. cheesycheesycheesy
.

1. Pakistan is no world power.

2. No French territory is in enemy hands.

3. BH isn't launching small scale 4 men attacks, they're openly attacking your army and defeating them.

Capturing your land.

4. Poachers are not fighting SA soldiers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:10pm On Jan 14, 2015
patches689:


Because South Africa is a free and open country and international new agencies revised their numbers down to 13 once the SANDF (who they trust) released the names and ranks of the deceased.

This is another topic that is not up for debate - all reputable sources state that the casualties are in the 1000's

Reputable sources hiding in American and Europe cannot produce reputable data or information in a war zone 10,000 km away in Nigeria.

Since ISIS has been beheading white men journalists, which foreign media has ventured into terrorist battle zones?

150 people including Boko fighters died in Baga, that remains the ONLY reputable information from a reputable source from the battlefield, and that is NA DHQ.

Reuters is a reputable international European source and their journalist was on the battlefield of Bangui up to the airport where he counted body bags of 50 SANDF killed by Seleka, Reuters NEVER revised the numbers till today, rather they challenge SANDF report of 13 dead.

Bags death toll is 150 and no other reputable source exists with boots and legs inside the battle field.

CASE CLOSED !
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:14pm On Jan 14, 2015
mzilakazi:


Nigerian Army is not even older than my grandfather.

Nigerian army is older than South African army, that's good enough, never mind your grandfather, don't mess up your family on nairaland
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by tdayof(m): 5:16pm On Jan 14, 2015
patches689:


And so?

Official numbaccused of hiding the number! official numbers.

In South Africa it is illegal for the SANDF to hide casualties,
because of a High Court Ruling in the 1980's regarding the issuing of the names of SADF personal who were killed in top secret missions in Angola.

Thats right, the oppressive army of the Apartheid Regime was more transparent than the Nigerian Army of today

Yea official number is official number and Nigerian army official number is 150


2)your government was hiding their casualty number And was even acfused
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:18pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Reputable sources hiding in American and Europe cannot produce reputable data or information in a war zone 10,000 km away in Nigeria.

150 people including Boko fighters died in Baga, that remains the ONLY reputable information from a reputable source from the battlefield, and that is NA DHQ.

Reuters is a reputable international European source and their journalist was on the battlefield of Bangui up to the airport where he counted body bags of 50 SANDF killed by Seleka, Reuters NEVER revised the numbers till today, rather they challenge SANDF report of 13 dead.

Bags death toll is 150 and no other reputable source exists with boots and legs inside the battle field.

CASE CLOSED !
.

Since ISIS has been beheading white men journalists, which foreign media has ventured into terrorist battle zones?


Eye witnesses say that there are 1000's of body's there, CNN, WSJ, BBC, AJ and RT are all carrying that story and running those numbers- so i believe them

With regards to 50 dead, Reuters also said 6 dead

"I saw the bodies of six South African soldiers. They had all been shot. Their vehicles were also destroyed. Other South African soldiers came to recover the bodies," the witness told Reuters.
http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/2013/03/24/six-south-african-soldiers-dead-in-central-african-republic-witness

The loss of 13 men in CAR is undisputed, their names and ranks have been released and no one disputes the number except one journalist whom ruined his career by sending dispatches with incorrect information.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:18pm On Jan 14, 2015
mzilakazi:


NAF-7 cannot discharge any missiles as confirmed by the Chief of NAF.

You ever seen a missile armed interceptor that does not fire missiles? It is SAAF Gripen jet, it cannot fire it's missiles
.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:20pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Nigerian army is older than South African army, that's good enough, never mind your grandfather, don't mess up your family on nairaland
.

Your "100" years is based on the formation of the Royal West African Frontier Force in 1900 which was an all white colonial occupation force that also occupied the other British colonies in the region - such as Ghana, Sierre Leone and Gambia.

If you wish to claim that as the Nigerian army, then so be it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:24pm On Jan 14, 2015
mzilakazi:
DA calls for military intervention in Nigeria to help the weak Nigerian military.


http://m.news24.com/nigeria/World/News/SA-opposition-calls-for-AU-military-action-against-terrorists-20150114

Who will invite your HIV infected army to come pollute his own land with your incurable virus?

I will rather have Boko Haram menace than HIV and AIDS disease imported from South Africa in broad daylight
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:25pm On Jan 14, 2015
agaugust:


Who will invite your HIV infected army to come pollute his own land with your incurable virus?

I will rather have Boko Haram menace than HIV and AIDS disease imported from South Africa in broad daylight
.

A sane human being would be thankfull that other nations are coming to his assistance.

But this fvcking ape still has the gall to spew his filth upon this forum?

Soon we will be patrolling their waters AND showing them how to fight wars

Get the gin and tonic ready, boy, your colonial masters will be taking up residence soon.

#SANDFIsComingToSaveTheHegemony

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