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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:31pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
patches689: Nigeria rejected intervention forces from world super powers including America, then Britain and the great Australian green beret desert special forces. so AU can go intervene in Cameroon that is begging for foreign help, they may accept HIV sick South African soldiers in Paul Biyas homeland . 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:37pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
agaugust: First, there is no such thing as the "australian green beret desert special forces", you child. And further - the west never offered intervention forces only assistance. Second, yes then Cameroon will get help and the people of Cameroon will be safe - while your country burns. This post by augubugug shows how overly emotional nigerians are - they have no sense, no logic. Did the English turn down American help during the war? Did Vietnam or North Korea turn down Russia? Did Angola turn down Cuba? You are losing a war and you turn down help? Fools. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 5:47pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
DieVluit:you are nothing but a 2 minute Google-educated maggot. Your brain elasticity can't stretch beyond 3cm. You are not worth anything more than a sewage fluid from a waste pipe. Your IQ is as low as your obvious lack of comprehension. A WHO certified retard and sociopathic lunny like you has no identity or fix address except here on nairaland. A nairaland toad like you would just hit on your keyboard and type away your idiocy. Nkoboti baboon! 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:56pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
patches689: Memory serves you wrong unfortunately. Most technical performance details of PL-9C missile are classified by China, but the bottom line is that it's successful hit on target is 90% . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:58pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: SAN has ONLY 1 Frigate alive, 3 are dead . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:04pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: I proved other navies that bought Otomat same time with Nigeria are still firing their missiles to show the world they are not expired, I posted a Latino navy doing it here. NAF jets will sink the whole fleet of SAN within 15 minutes and you have no navy from that moment. 1 frigate, no diesel, double trouble for SAN . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:12pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
patches689: SANDF has 30 battalions of HIV Infected half dead soldiers, try save your dying army first . 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:16pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
patches689: Official numbers are official numbers. In Nigeria it is illegal for the NA to hide casualties . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:19pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
patches689: You said you are quoting Retuers news of France, but your web link source is Times news of South Africa, are you craaaaaazy! . 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:33pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
agaugust:Nigeria has no combat ship. SAN has 4 frigates rotated through refit. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:37pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Pakistan is a nuclear power and world power. France had it's capital Paris held to ransom and locked down by only 2 terrorists for several days. Let 1,000 terrorists mixed among civilians rise up with RPG and heavy machine guns inside Paris and let's see French army compared to Nigeria. France is a Christian nation and does not face Nigeria's threat level. Poachers have been sitting down on SANDF owned portion of South African land allocated and gifted to your army by ANC government, the poachers don't even fear your army, they are freeling robbing and stealing and breaking law on army land Your helpless army is busy with HIV treatment and cannot recapture their land from local hunter poachers. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:37pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
agaugust:Your Otomat missiles have long expired, besides you have no launch platforms. Your navy can be wiped in less than 15 minutes. NN has no combat capability. Do you know how fighter aircraft attack ships? If needed you know, all your jets will be shot down. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:43pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
agaugust: 1. Pakistan is not a world power. 2. Yes, because no terrorist movement would ever built a capability to deploy a battalion sized force for combat supported APCs, Technicals, Motobikes etc 3. Poachers are not fighting the SA military. Do you want me to introduce poaching into the debate? Do you want us to discus Nigeria's poaching problems? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:46pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:er....rolling eyes?,i dont think so,what i do is wink;you understand what winking is dont you?,it means closing an eyelid for the fraction of a second. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:52pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
patches689: Green berets is the common nickname for Australian special forcee you dummy. Nobody helped Nigeria defeat Biafra, nobody is needed to defeat Boko Haram, American help did not defeat Taliban in Afghanistan after 11 years of NATO power show. We are not losing any war with Boko Haram, Great Britain fought 27 long war with IRA terrorists, so 4 years against Bokos is nothing to worry about. Nobody helped Algeria to defeat terrorists in an 11 year war and 150,000 Algerians died. Nigeria needs NO foreign soldiers, we will continue to do things our own way. Anybody with intervention desires can try his luck with Cameroon. Period ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:52pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
mzilakazi:you appear to be a waste of diluted s.perm....what achievements can the SANDF boast of compared to the NA? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:04pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR:Yes,it wouldnt.but the jihadists will succeed in distancing the relationship between the US and western europe.france claims that it isnt going to fight a war against muslims,but it is only a matter of time before grief and anger drive them to change their mind.the US is pretty cosy with saudi arabia,the world's pillar of islam,but what happens when france percieve's islam as a threat to its national security,interest and sovereignity?,what happens when germany withdraws from EU and begins to rearm its military for standby alert mode? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:30pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
lezz: A very pained and passionate post from a colonial subject. Just send a letter to the empire. We might just read it. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:45pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Citation needed . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:50pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: I am the one who posted the last modern day jet vs ship war here from Falklands war records of casualties and losses. Old school Skyhawk jets of Argentina sank British warships in a fleet that has SAM air defense. When a navy has no air force protection it becomes a fat helpless sitting duck. NAF will sink SANs lone ranger frigate in 5 minutes and Mandela will have no navy anymore . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:53pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
agaugust: no, there is no Australian unit with that name you child You will continue to fight the war your own way and you will continue to lose - face it, we will be coming to save you just like our navy will be patrolling your waters. And the difference between your war and the ones you listed above - in those wars the insurgents didnt hold towns and cities, they didnt move around in massive formations, they didnt have APC's and such. The COIN war is over - the low intensity conventional war has begun 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 11:54pm On Jan 14, 2015 |
agaugust: Hahaha No |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RM786: 12:45am On Jan 15, 2015 |
agaugust:[quote agaugust:author=agaugust post=29792455] Official numbers are official numbers. In Nigeria it is illegal for the NA to hide casualties .[/quote] Hello there Agaugust I haven't posted in this forum for about a year now have even forgotten my username I was using then. We were discussing capabilities wrt Otomat vs Execot and their launch platforms at the time, SAN frigates vs Nigerian frigate, but then I got ended up just going to the pub instead. I'm glad you have lost non of your passionate fire in the interim. 1. Which NAF jets are those exactly you refer to? 2. No doubt all technical performance details for the PL-9 are classified as it is with any other weapons system. The "unofficially obtained" figures of 90% successful engagement rate sure does sound impressive, but under what testing conditions how were these attained? Relying on surface controls like canards, rollerons and ailerons for stability/maneuvering (no thrust vectoring capability from exhaust nozzle) they are seriously compromised in engagements with fast moving targets able to detect them, perform evasive manouvres and deploy counter measures. Seeing as the equivalent products produced on a relatively shoe string budget by indigenous SA companies (no need to worry about changing political climates as they have in house production capability) have demonstrated 100% success rate in internationally observed trials a claimed 90% success rate doesn't sound so good to be honest. 3. Illegal for the NA to hide causalities, so they have the same constitutional requirements of 95% of the worlds armies... do they have the same watch dogs in place to make sure they adhere to those rules? No not a chance, not even close, what would happen to a whistle blower in Nigeria that revealed something putting the authorities in a bad light and embarrassed the government? 4. Only 1 frigate working? Last time I checked 1 was in refit, 2 operational- ie either on patrol or ready for immediate deployment at full operational capability, the other ready to be deployed at full operational level on short notice if required. 5. I have to take my hat off and express genuine admiration and respect for Nigeria with how they handled the Biafra situation and despite America's best efforts to manipulate things to suit their agenda of expanding their empire (using many "humanitarian NGO's" yeah right, they were sneaky bastards) you guys did well there, well done. It wasn't portrayed in a popular light by the western propoganda/media at the time but it was the necessary evil required to achieve the greater good. So don't buy Chinese hardware(missiles, ships, whatever)! Why do you think SA turned down USA's offer of F-16s- way too many strings attached. 6. Not good form to criticize RSA for helping in CAR. At least they tried to help and actually did contribute something positive towards the well being of the local populace. Nigeria did nothing and they are right next door! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:59am On Jan 15, 2015 |
patches689: Foolish old man, that is their nickname, Green Berets.... "Australian Commando berets are known as being "Sherwood Green" in colour. The corps badge on the beret is a black background and a gold combat dagger with the moto “Strike Swiftly" underneath the dagger.[4] The green beret is only awarded to a soldier upon becoming qualified as a Commando in either of the below Regiments. 1st Commando Regiment 2nd Commando Regiment. Formerly 4th Battalion, Royal Australian Regiment, a special forces unit of the Australian Army" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_beret#Australian_commandos . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:00am On Jan 15, 2015 |
patches689: With ONLY ONE frigate, one same solo ship protecting South Africa's 3,200 km coast, at the same time patrolling Mozambique channel, patrolling Angola to Nigeria, and up to Ghana, covering the whole Gulf Of Guinea....LOL . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:08am On Jan 15, 2015 |
patches689: If France becomes surrounded by Islamic nations like Chad , Niger Republic and North Cameroon, and when France has has 90 million Muslim citizens like Nigeria, they will find 1,000 radicals that will hold a town by mixing up with civilians, then the French army will not able to use force or raw air power so as not to kill the innocent civilians mixed with terrorists. Show me any country in this world with Nigeria's Muslim population and neighborhood fighting terrorism and doing better than Nigeria in war ! Mumu Domingo, brain empty of simple logic . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:12am On Jan 15, 2015 |
RM786: If you can read back pages of this forum from June 2014 to January 2015, you will find answers to all your questions . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RM786: 1:27am On Jan 15, 2015 |
Mandela's Navy The current RSA foreign obtained defence hardware portfolio (ships, planes, etc) is a legacy of the previous Apartheid regime's many attempts and plans to modernize their equipment, agreements finalized during Mbeki's tenure. PS: I don't think Mandela would be too worried anyway seeing as he's dead Also WTF? Australian "Green Beret". If that's a nomenclature that can be applied to more than one branch of service/unit or large scale mustering that isn't a very "special" force. American seals and "green berets" sure are big and strong but considering probably more than 5% of their general recruits are able to qualify and be deemed competent as a seal speaks volumes. They really are not that special at all. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RM786: 1:28am On Jan 15, 2015 |
I have read them please just quickly break down or give clear answers to my questions |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:45am On Jan 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope - that says they wear one Not that it is their nickname Learn to read 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:45am On Jan 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Is the SAN only composed of frigates? What about the subs, minesweeps, warrior class et al? Joker |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:46am On Jan 15, 2015 |
agaugust: Is the SAN only composed of frigates? What about the subs, minesweeps, warrior class et al? And again, we can deploy 2 frigates if we want or even 3 if we have to Joker |
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