emmyrichie:
The Crime of the Human Beings

We read that before they fell, Adam and Eve were both naked, and were not ashamed. (Gen. 2:25)CEV|KJ|NI After the Fall, however, they felt ashamed of their unclothedness and sewed fig leaves together into aprons to cover their lower parts. (Gen. 3:7)CEV|KJ|NI If they had committed a crime by eating some actual fruit from a tree called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then they certainly would have covered their hands or mouths instead. It is human nature to conceal one's faults. Thus, the act of covering their lower parts shows that these parts, and not their mouths, were the source of their shame. In Job 31:33 it is written, "If I have concealed my transgressions like Adam, by hiding my iniquity in my bosom. "21(Job 31:33) KJV Adam concealed his lower parts after the Fall; this indicates that his blemish was in his lower parts. Adam and Eve's sexual parts were the source of their shame because they were the instruments of their sinful deed.

In the world before the human Fall, what act would one be willing to carry out even at the clear risk of one's life? It could be nothing else but the act of love. God's purpose of creation, described in the blessings "be fruitful and multiply, (Gen. 1:28)CEV|KJ|NI can be achieved only through love. Accordingly, from the viewpoint of God's purpose of creation, love should be the most precious and sacred act. But because the sexual act was the very cause of the Fall, people often regard it with shame and even contempt. In conclusion, human beings fell through an act of illicit sexual intercourse.

The Illicit Sexual Act between the Angel and the Human Beings

Thus far, it was explained that an angel seduced human beings to fall, and that both the angel and the human beings fell due to illicit sexual love. Human beings and angels are the only spiritual beings in the universe who are capable of having love relationships. We can deduce that the illicit sexual relationship must have involved the angel and human beings.

Jesus said, "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. (John 8:44)CEV|KJ|NI Since the Devil is identified as Satan, (Rev. 12:9)CEV|KJ|NI we can assert that human beings are descendants of Satan, the "ancient serpent" who tempted human beings. Through what circumstances did humankind become the descendants of the fallen angel, Satan? There was an illicit sexual relationship between the angel and the first ancestors. As the fruit of that relationship, all humanity is of the lineage of Satan. When St. Paul wrote, "we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies, (Rom. 8:23)CEV|KJ|NI he was acknowledging that we fallen people stem from the lineage of Satan, not the lineage of God. John the Baptist reproached the people, calling them "a brood of vipers, (Matt. 3:7)CEV|KJ|NI that is, children of Satan. Jesus said to the scribes and Pharisees, "You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being sentenced to hell? (Matt. 23:33)CEV|KJ|NI These verses affirm that we are the offspring of an illicit sexual relationship involving the angel and our first ancestors. This, in fact, lies at the heart of the human Fall.

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Seun, Rocktation, pasqal09, farano : I mistakenly created this thread in this section, kindly move it to the religion section. Thanks!

RikoduoSennin:


Diagnosis: Attention Seeker.

What can I say when such thinking as above holds no water. Do you think other bible passages would not explain it clearly if it were SEX.

Flaws in your OP.

1) Satan USED A SNAKE to deceive Eve, Snakes don't have the kind of sexual organs Man does.

2) There were other trees in th Garden too, if 'Tree of good and Eve' is Sex, what do the other tree REPRESENT? What then does 'The tree of life' also in the garden mean? Why call the place a GARDEN, if the word translated 'Trees' do not mean literal tree?

3) Genesis 3: 4,5 " And the SERPENT said unto the woman,.....For God knows that in the day you eat of it, then your eyes shall be OPENED and you shall BE AS GODs, Knowing Good and bad"

Genesis 3:22 "and the lord God said, the Man has BECOME LIKE ONE OF US,TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL and now lest he put forth his hand and also take also the tree of life and eat and Live forever"

Does Sex make some God/Gods? Because satan said they will be as Gods and God himself said Man is now like them (Man became like God after eating the fruit) - Does that mean God Almighty is having SEX ?

If eating tree of life=Living Forever why would Eating from a tree called Knowledge of good and Evil= SEX ?

sukkot:
adam eve and serpent are the same nation. same nation with three different kinds of spirit in all of them. but same people like say for example they are all yoruba. or they are all igbo. same people with three different spirit types. and heaven is on earth. heaven means rulership of earth. the white man is in heaven today. and once the serpent corrupted eve, the portion of eve that was corrupted by the serpent were cursed ( dunno how God did it , maybe he blocked and calcified their pineal gland and they stopped producing melanin but they were cursed with white lepros skin ), and a new nation was created of people with white skin called caucasians today but called CAIN in the bible. so the serpent took half of eve and created a new nation CAIN.

emmyrichie:


Cain is known to be a destroyer, evil and wicked, so how come there's so much advancement in the western world compared to ours?

Who are the fallen angels and what are the demons?

Which of the seven nations on earth is saddled with the task of God's assignment of being fruitful and multiply? Thanks!

sukkot:
adam eve and serpent are the same nation. same nation with three different kinds of spirit in all of them. but same people like say for example they are all yoruba. or they are all igbo. same people with three different spirit types. and heaven is on earth. heaven means rulership of earth. the white man is in heaven today. and once the serpent corrupted eve, the portion of eve that was corrupted by the serpent were cursed ( dunno how God did it , maybe he blocked and calcified their pineal gland and they stopped producing melanin but they were cursed with white lepros skin ), and a new nation was created of people with white skin called caucasians today but called CAIN in the bible. so the serpent took half of eve and created a new nation CAIN.

sukkot:
mcfynest how are ya buddy ? trust all is fine. whats the issue yall hashing out here ? let me get a sniff lol

mcfynest:

That is a logical explanation bro, or we say that adam was brought to eden, but indicationsshows that there were other people during adam's period

mcfynest:




Hey bro, we cool dowm here, trust you cool? When you coming over Hope you would come to nigeria to vote!

mcfynest:




I dont think the curse started from that story. Because leviticus ch 13 just started talking about it years later, a quick intro into how the asians and reds came may also help

CrazyMan:

Your argument holds ground according to this passage.

Genesis 4:13-17. 13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

If Adam and eve were the only humans on earth, then passage above is a direct contradiction to what we were meant to believe.

emmyrichie:


Cain is known to be a destroyer, evil and wicked , so how come there's so much advancement in the western world compared to ours?

Who are the fallen angels and what are the demons?

Which of the seven nations on earth is saddled with the task of God's assignment of being fruitful and multiply? Thanks!

sukkot:
and to buttress my answer with bible verses cuz i already answered this question, you said if cain aka the white man is the wicked, why is there so much advancement in the western world and you said he is known as the wicked and evil. ok lets go there

job 9 vs 24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: <<< WHO IS RULING AND CONTROLLING THE EARTH ? THE WICKED AS THE VERSE STATES. WHO IS CONTROLLING THE WORLD ? THE WHITE MAN AKA CAIN THE WICKED. YOU STARTING TO SEE HOW REAL THE BIBLE IS ? IS IT COMING TO LIFE FOR YOU ?

1 JOHN 5 VS 19 We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one. <<< WHO HAS ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD ACCORDING TO THAT VERSE ? THE EVIL ONE. WHO HAS ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD ? THE WHITE MAN

IS IT ALL ADDING UP TO YOU ? ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN THOSE TWO VERSES

CrazyMan:

Your argument holds ground according to this passage.

Genesis 4:13-17. 13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me. 15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

If Adam and eve were the only humans on earth, then passage above is a direct contradiction to what we were meant to believe.

basilico:
Adam was instructed to fill up the world.
What the OP is deducing is nothing but conjectures and illogical conclusions.
How was Adam and Eve supposed to multiply and fill the earth?
Using science to come up with nonsense.

basilico:
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But you, be fruitful and multiply ; spread out over the
earth and multiply on it.”
New American Standard Bible
"As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth
abundantly and multiply in it."
King James Bible
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Parallel Verses
New International Version
As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply
on the earth and increase upon it."
New Living Translation
Now be fruitful and multiply, and repopulate the earth."
English Standard Version
And you, be fruitful and multiply, increase greatly on
the earth and multiply in it.”
New American Standard Bible
"As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth
abundantly and multiply in it."
King James Bible
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
But you, be fruitful and multiply; spread out over the
earth and multiply on it."
International Standard Version
Now as for you, be productive and multiply; spread out
over the land and multiply throughout it."
NET Bible
But as for you, be fruitful and multiply; increase
abundantly on the earth and multiply on it."
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Be fertile, and increase in number. Spread over the
earth, and increase."
King James 2000 Bible
And you, be you fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
American King James Version
And you, be you fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
American Standard Version
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; Bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Douay-Rheims Bible
But increase you and multiply, and go upon the earth,
and fill it.
Darby Bible Translation
And ye, be fruitful and multiply: swarm on the earth,
and multiply on it.
English Revised Version
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Webster's Bible Translation
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply, bring forth
abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
World English Bible
Be fruitful and multiply. Bring forth abundantly in the
earth, and multiply in it."
Young's Literal Translation
And ye, be fruitful and multiply, teem in the earth, and
multiply in it.'

emmyrichie:


Cool... This means that the Black race was of Abel and the witchcraft, blackmagic, envy and metaphysical atrocities associated with the black race are the handiworks of offspring that resulted from the sexual consummation between the blacks and the whites?

sukkot:
hailings and salute bros CRAZYMAN

CrazyMan:

Buzugee alias Obadiah777 aka Sukkot...how fare ye o brethern?

sukkot:
my bros CrazyMan i am fine. all is well. we give tanks and praises to YAH. trust all is well with you

CrazyMan:

All is well with me bro, its so good to see you...I'm looking forward to reading lots and lots of controversial epistles from you...

In the mean time, let me prepare to watch the second half of QPR vs Man United (my beloved club)

Catch ya later.

sukkot:
no problems my ogapatapata. enjoy ya game with some nice alomo bitters

emmyrichie:


Wow! So many unexplained verses in the bible... Your contribution is cool.

VirginFinder:


There is significant time lag between biblical verses. Things didnt happen as they were written, time wise.

sukkot and the OP are dishing out bulllsshiiiiiittttt!
Everyone should beware.

emmyrichie:


And you just shoot yourself in the foot. Who's dishing out bulllllshit? If you have logical explanations to the topic, kindly contribute meaningfully or else, keep your cool.

emmyrichie:


And you just shoot yourself in the foot. Who's dishing out bulllllshit? If you have logical explanations to the topic, kindly contribute meaningfully or else, keep your cool.

VirginFinder:


Be careful!

You need the Holy Spirit and NOT logic to read and understand the Bible and also to be able to expound scriptures.

Logic will lead you to hell!!

MrPresident1:

emmyrichie:


For the record, I am not seeking no attention. I just came across an article that convinced me and decided to put it on here for further edification.

1. You are very aggressive and believe that you know enough to know that you know. It is bad for you, pls quit being like that. Learn how to present your points.

2. Why I think that the sexual organs are the tree of life is because of the fact that whenever they combine in acts, life termed to be formed (fetus).

The dick is the tree, the vi.gina is the fertile ground and the pubic hairs are the stems, leaves and branches. The sperm is the water and the woman's eggs are the seed.

Gracias!

RikoduoSennin:


I seem aggressive because YOU ARE SAYING WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW AND IT IS ANNOYING.

You still have not read the bible yourself, you just read a poorly written article with no scriptural reference and you made you conclusion based on spoken stories about what happened in Eden, then you did the mistake of believing such lies.

Read the Bible Yourself and Find out first hand what does it say.

Eg. For rivers flow through the garden of Eden noth one- Euphrates river is one of them, that river exists around Babylon's gate. To say it did not exist is to say Babylon did not exists hence Alexander the great did not exist too.

Jehovah did not forbid sex between Married couples (Adam and Eve were already married). If God did not want Adam to have sex he would not have created him with a joystick (NB there is no useless organ in our body) or ask them both to multiply and fill the Earth.

Adam became like God AFTER he eat from the tree, Does God have Sex?

Adam and Eve were prohibited from Eating the tree of life, so by your logic they should not be able to give life.

Tell me please, what represent the Angels that guilde the tree of life? The scrotum you mean? How does it guide? What represents the spinning sword?

Wasp thinking.