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Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Ikengawo: 2:36am On Jan 20, 2015
We forget the north is a region and not an ethnic group. The ethnic groups have little to nothing to do with each other outside of being north of the Niger and Benue rivers but we want to group them as one. Buhari has ran an election every single election season and has always lost. When he wins on a state level the margins are still close. The truth is that Buhari doesn't have broad appeal to the North. While his Fulani brothers, and Hausa associates may be ok with him (usually the poorer more radical of these two groups), there are hundreds of groups in the North that constantly say no to Buhari every single 4 years.

My proof that the same buhari people saying that if GEJ came to the north there would be no crowd, that there's no PDP in Kano etc etc. GEJ rocked Kebbi and Sokoto, and supporters came in waves. I've never been one to believe in crowd counting because I'm not naive about how it works in this country but truth be told a GEJ crowd in the north is different for one clear reason.

These people risked their life to see GEJ. All month we have been hearing that people will be attacked, PDP members are being attacked. We have video footage of a truck being destroyed. We saw what happened last year. Plus there's now Boko Haram in the north that can hide among crowds, and still tens and thousands of people risked their life to see GEJ that were told to have been his 'enemies'.

This action has revived my respect for the North. It seems there's more to be known about the people of the North than the media allows us to hear. If there was a risk of death most southerners wouldn't even go to their own father's rally.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by asadike(f): 3:33am On Jan 20, 2015
Ok

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Abagworo(m): 4:01am On Jan 20, 2015
Anyone trying to sell Jonathan as a viable candidate is wasting his time. Buhari has served Nigeria at various levels and came out with distinctions. His anti-corruption stance 31 years ago in his brief 2 year stay as military head of State has remained a glorious era of our history.

Jonathan has also served at various capacity and brought calamity. His era as deputy Governor/Governor of Bayelsa saw cultism, militancy and death take over Bayelsa State and his 2 year in power as Governor produced no physical development. He has now served as VP/President for 8 years and the only remarkable thing remains "due process" enshrined by Yar'Adua but killed by Jonathan. Just like the bloodshed and militancy which characterised his stay in Bayelsa, same fate has befallen Nigeria under his watch.

It is left for Nigerians to make the right choice since both leaders have been tested.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Raiders: 4:19am On Jan 20, 2015
Ikengawo:
We forget the north is a region and not an ethnic group. The ethnic groups have little to nothing to do with each other outside of being north of the Niger and Benue rivers but we want to group them as one. Buhari has ran an election every single election season and has always lost. When he wins on a state level the margins are still close. The truth is that Buhari doesn't have broad appeal to the North. While his Fulani brothers, and Hausa associates may be ok with him (usually the poorer more radical of these two groups), there are hundreds of groups in the North that constantly say no to Buhari every single 4 years.

My proof that the same buhari people saying that if GEJ came to the north there would be no crowd, that there's no PDP in Kano etc etc. GEJ rocked Kebbi and Sokoto, and supporters came in waves. I've never been one to believe in crowd counting because I'm not naive about how it works in this country but truth be told a GEJ crowd in the north is different for one clear reason.

These people risked their life to see GEJ. All month we have been hearing that people will be attacked, PDP members are being attacked. We have video footage of a truck being destroyed. We saw what happened last year. Plus there's now Boko Haram in the north that can hide among crowds, and still tens and thousands of people risked their life to see GEJ that were told to have been his 'enemies'.

This action has revived my respect for the North. It seems there's more to be known about the people of the North than the media allows us to hear. If there was a risk of death most southerners wouldn't even go to their own father's rally.
Must everything be about tribe to you. I guess you live in the west. And I am sure you have witness the 2008 and 2012 US elections. Most people in US voted for their presidential candidates based on real issue rather than on race, religion or ethnicity. this was how Obama won both elections. Why cant we Nigerians living in the west encourage Nigerians to vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues that affect them rather than play the tribal and religious politics like most uneducated Nigerians. I don't see anything wrong in you supporting PDP if your reason for supporting them is based on the party and candidate manifesto rather than the ethnicity or religion of the candidate. I am for the Niger delta and although I am not going to vote because I don't currently reside in Nigeria. I don't support PDP because I no longer believe in the party principles and they have failed Nigerians for the past 15 yrs. I just hope all Nigeria will be wise this time around and vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues affecting the country and their community because 54 yrs of tribal politics has taken us nowhere and has made us one of the poorest and unsafe countries on earth.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Ikengawo: 4:51am On Jan 20, 2015
Raiders:
Must everything be about tribe to you. I guess you live in the west. And I am sure you have witness the 2008 and 2012 US elections. [b]Most people in US voted for their presidential candidates based on real issue rather than on race, religion or ethnicity. [/b]this was how Obama won both elections. Why cant we Nigerians living in the west encourage Nigerians to vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues that affect them rather than play the tribal and religious politics like most uneducated Nigerians. I don't see anything wrong in you supporting PDP if your reason for supporting them is based on the party and candidate manifesto rather than the ethnicity or religion of the candidate. I am for the Niger delta and although I am not going to vote because I don't currently reside in Nigeria. I don't support PDP because I no longer believe in the party principles and they have failed Nigerians for the past 15 yrs. I just hope all Nigeria will be wise this time around and vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues affecting the country and their community because 54 yrs of tribal politics has taken us nowhere and has made us one of the poorest and unsafe countries on earth.


that's not true. we have this habit of assuming everything in the west is done right. The black people voted for the black man and the white people voted for the white man. The white man just forgot to include white women who tipped the balance for Obama because he's handsome, charismatic and appeals to women's issues more.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Donmarrius: 4:54am On Jan 20, 2015
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Abagworo:
Anyone trying to sell Jonathan as a viable candidate is wasting his time. Buhari has served Nigeria at various levels and came out with distinctions. His anti-corruption stance 31 years ago in his brief 2 year stay as military head of State has remained a glorious era of our history.

Jonathan has also served at various capacity and brought calamity. His era as deputy Governor/Governor of Bayelsa saw cultism, militancy and death take over Bayelsa State and his 2 year in power as Governor produced no physical development. He has now served as VP/President for 8 years and the only remarkable thing remains "due process" enshrined by Yar'Adua but killed by Jonathan. Just like the bloodshed and militancy which characterised his stay in Bayelsa, same fate has befallen Nigeria under his watch.

It is left for Nigerians to make the right choice since both leaders have been tested.
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Buhari fought his percieved enemies and not corruption.
For instance,uptill now,Buhari hasn't yet told us why he threw Ojukwu in jail for 10months,when it was clear that Ojukwu wasn't in Nigeria during Shagari regime,talk of being part of the alleged corrupt government.

Buhari hasn't yet told us why he kept Shagari,the head of the alleged corrupt government on a house arrest,where he is enjoying himself,but threw Dr.Alex Ekwueme,the deputy in over 100years jail term.

An alleged corrupt free individual,won't av' anything to do with Tinubu,Atiku,etc,who are know to be corruption personified.

A corrupt free individual,wont tell lies about his certificate.

It's a lie that Jonathan killed due process.we need an evidence.

If Jonathan killed due process,he wouldn't av' enacted law that emboldens due process,which is FOI law.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Gboliwe: 4:55am On Jan 20, 2015
@OP, tell it to them!!!

Personally, I have more northerners or rather, I have more friends living in the north on my facebook page, you need to see their regular updates. These are the grass root, the common electorate. Despite the threats being real in their everyday lives, these guys are still fearless and will never support buhari because of the wickedness oF his heart

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Donmarrius: 5:04am On Jan 20, 2015
Raiders:
Must everything be about tribe to you. I guess you live in the west. And I am sure you have witness the 2008 and 2012 US elections. Most people in US voted for their presidential candidates based on real issue rather than on race, religion or ethnicity. this was how Obama won both elections. Why cant we Nigerians living in the west encourage Nigerians to vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues that affect them rather than play the tribal and religious politics like most uneducated Nigerians. I don't see anything wrong in you supporting PDP if your reason for supporting them is based on the party and candidate manifesto rather than the ethnicity or religion of the candidate. I am for the Niger delta and although I am not going to vote because I don't currently reside in Nigeria. I don't support PDP because I no longer believe in the party principles and they have failed Nigerians for the past 15 yrs. I just hope all Nigeria will be wise this time around and vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues affecting the country and their community because 54 yrs of tribal politics has taken us nowhere and has made us one of the poorest and unsafe countries on earth.
Unfortunately,this is Nigeria,a lugard contraption,where ethnicity and religion plays more role than anything.If not,what's the rationale behind the "Power-MUST-return-to-NORTH" mantra of the northern elites,instead of power must return to a credible candidate?.
That's why i do laugh when people call for issue based campaign.it won't work now because northern politicians started the tribal politics before now,and whatever you see now,is a product of what has been.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Raiders: 5:08am On Jan 20, 2015
Ikengawo:



that's not true. we have this habit of assuming everything in the west is done right. The black people voted for the black man and the white people voted for the white man. The white man just forgot to include white women who tipped the balance for Obama because he's handsome, charismatic and appeals to women's issues more.
I guess you know that whites in the states account for more than 60% of US population and blacks are about 11%. Obama also won in some "white" states with population of less than 1% blacks. Yes, I agree that most blacks voted for obama but the real reason Obama won the first time is because he was in the right party at the right time and US were in dire need of change. That was the reason Obama slogan was change. if Obama was the republicans party candidate after Bush republican disastrous presidency that almost ruin the US economy, Obama would not have won the general elections. Obama won because most US citizens wanted the republicans out of office.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Donmarrius: 5:12am On Jan 20, 2015
Gboliwe:
@OP, tell it to them!!!

Personally, I have more northerners or rather, I have more friends living in the north on my facebook page, you need to see their regular updates. These are the grass root, the common electorate. Despite the threats being real in their everyday life, these guys are still fearless and will never support buhari because of the wickedness oF his heart
APC problem is that,they depends on media lies other than reality.Days back,Punch and Sahara reporters made people belief that Gej can't even step leg in north talk more of campaigning there,but the reverse is the case.

One negative effect of this media hype,is that,it will make useless youths who supports Buhari,to be gunned down by the army,should they dare cause voilence,because in their mind Buhari will win,not knowing that they av' been false-fed by APC media propaganda.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Ikengawo: 5:17am On Jan 20, 2015
Raiders:
I guess you know that whites in the states account for more than 60% of US population and blacks are about 11%. Obama also won in some "white" states with population of less than 1% blacks. Yes, I agree that most blacks voted for obama but the real reason Obama won the first time is because he was in the right party at the right time and US were in dire need of change. That was the reason Obama slogan was change. if Obama was the republicans party candidate after Bush republican disastrous presidency that almost ruin the US economy, Obama would not have won the general elections. Obama won because most US citizens wanted the republicans out of office.

you're speaking on something you didn't witness.





Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Gboliwe: 5:20am On Jan 20, 2015
Donmarrius:
APC problem is that,they depends on media lies other than reality.Days back,Punch and Sahara reporters made people belief that Gej can't even step leg in north talk more of campaigning there,but the reverse is the case.

One negative effect of this media hype,is that,it will make useless youths who supports Buhari,to be gunned down by the army,should they dare cause voilence,because in their mind Buhari will win,not knowing that they av' been false-fed by APC media propaganda.

I am just sick of the hype especially here. They fail to understand that to be very fair, buhari can only be sure of votes from his fellow core fundamentalists, and them alone. Other groups and subs are not backing him completely despite being northerners too. Anyway, the time is at hand.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Ikengawo: 5:25am On Jan 20, 2015



Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by nationwide1(m): 5:31am On Jan 20, 2015
Donmarrius:
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Buhari fought his percieved enemies and not corruption.
For instance,uptill now,Buhari hasn't yet told us why he threw Ojukwu in jail for 10months,when it was clear that Ojukwu wasn't in Nigeria during Shagari regime,talk of being part of the alleged corrupt government.

Buhari hasn't yet told us why he kept Shagari,the head of the alleged corrupt government on a house arrest,where he is enjoying himself,but threw Dr.Alex Ekwueme,the deputy in over 100years jail term.

An alleged corrupt free individual,won't av' anything to do with Tinubu,Atiku,etc,who are know to be corruption personified.

A corrupt free individual,wont tell lies about his certificate.

It's a lie that Jonathan killed due process.we need an evidence.

If Jonathan killed due process,he wouldn't av' enacted law that emboldens due process,which is FOI law.
I tell you it's like these APC folks have memory problems or they think Nigerians don't know the nation's history. An upright man that tells lies about his certificates, allowed an emir to pass with 53 suit cases of hard currency but imprisoned Fela with far less money. An upright man that openly vowed to force a single religion on Nigerians. A flawless man that is happy dining with Tinubu, Atiku, Amaechi.
Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Sibrah: 5:34am On Jan 20, 2015
OP is right.
Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Raiders: 5:35am On Jan 20, 2015
[quote author=Ikengawo post=29951286]

I was in the States during Obama elections and I witness the elections. yes, There are some redneck teaparty racists in US who didn't support obama because of his race but those racists are in the minority. I don't want to derail your thread. What I am just trying to say is that we shouldnt be practising tribal politics in Nigeria because it has not taken us anywhere. I don't have any problem with you supporting GEJ because its your choice. however your thread seems to be encouraging tribal and ethnic politics . I don't expect it from someone living in the west who knows most western citizens vote based on issues

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by theV0ice: 5:37am On Jan 20, 2015
If you guys knew all along that some people in even sokoto and kebbi support Jonathan, then why the blanket hatred and condemnation for the north? Why the rejoicing whenever the north experiences boko haram attack? Forgetting that even southerners who get their daily bread there are also victims a lot of times?

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Sibrah: 5:38am On Jan 20, 2015
Some tribes are constantly under the harassment of the larger core-northern group and will never support a core-northerner to be president.
Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Abagworo(m): 5:40am On Jan 20, 2015
[quote author=Raiders post=29951425][/quote]

Not only in the West but everyone that truly love their country and love its progress. I am Igbo and my entire generation from grandparents are in support of Buhari Presidency because we want peaceful change knowing fully well that Jonathan continuing will lead to violent change which will take us backwards.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Descartes: 6:02am On Jan 20, 2015
theV0ice:
If you guys knew all along that some people in even sokoto and kebbi support Jonathan, then why the blanket hatred and condemnation for the north? Why the rejoicing whenever the north experiences boko haram attack? Forgetting that even southerners who get their daily bread there are also victims a lot of times?
Why are you trying to be mischievous?
Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by FKO81(m): 6:27am On Jan 20, 2015
Abagworo:


Not only in the West but everyone that truly love their country and love its progress. I am Igbo and my entire generation from grandparents are in support of Buhari Presidency because we want peaceful change knowing fully well that Jonathan continuing will lead to violent change which will take us backwards.
Amaechi brother who asked your tribe?

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by theV0ice: 7:00am On Jan 20, 2015
Descartes:
Why are you trying to be mischievous?

are you trying to pretend you've NEVER seen a thread or read any post rejoicing at the bomb blasts in the north?

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by warrior01: 7:13am On Jan 20, 2015
Abagworo:


Not only in the West but everyone that truly love their country and love its progress. I am Igbo and my entire generation from grandparents are in support of Buhari Presidency because we want peaceful change knowing fully well that Jonathan continuing will lead to violent change which will take us backwards.

Lie of the century; Pls, you're Ikwerre not Igbo and don't make that mistake again

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Moblord(m): 7:17am On Jan 20, 2015
And i pity those tribes if GEJ win
Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by SLIDEwaxie(m): 7:23am On Jan 20, 2015
Raiders:
Must everything be about tribe to you. I guess you live in the west. And I am sure you have witness the 2008 and 2012 US elections. Most people in US voted for their presidential candidates based on real issue rather than on race, religion or ethnicity. this was how Obama won both elections. Why cant we Nigerians living in the west encourage Nigerians to vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues that affect them rather than play the tribal and religious politics like most uneducated Nigerians. I don't see anything wrong in you supporting PDP if your reason for supporting them is based on the party and candidate manifesto rather than the ethnicity or religion of the candidate. I am for the Niger delta and although I am not going to vote because I don't currently reside in Nigeria. I don't support PDP because I no longer believe in the party principles and they have failed Nigerians for the past 15 yrs. I just hope all Nigeria will be wise this time around and vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues affecting the country and their community because 54 yrs of tribal politics has taken us nowhere and has made us one of the poorest and unsafe countries on earth.
dude, stop talking to a dead wood...
I'm not talking abt him, but his brain...

He won't understand

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Akshow: 7:27am On Jan 20, 2015
All the idiots spewing thrash and supporting the op are still the same tribal bigot who are quick to label the whole northerners as bokoharam and killers. E reach election time now una remember say other tribes that are Christians are in the north.

op let me tell u. most xtian tribal people in d north are facing more hardship under jona than any govt. u don't know the chiboks girls are mostly Christians? mubi, yobe Maiduguri and many other north east states that gej don't give a damn about providing security for their lives and properties have many xtians. and u think they will vote for him?

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by Flye: 7:50am On Jan 20, 2015
Everything about you people is about ethnicity and religion, can't u just say something else?
Interms of unity and division, this government is the worst ever is history.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by BlackTechnology: 8:17am On Jan 20, 2015
Nigeria FG politics is all about ethno religious sentiments.

That's why SW voted for OBJ in 2003 against GMB and today are shouting Sai Buhari because of the promise of taking over power in the event of Buhari's capitulation either by death or weakness cool

Unknown to most APC fans, the North is full of hundreds of small ethnic groups who are anti Hausa Fulani and Kanuri arrogant Born To Rule attitude. cool

Flye:
Everything about you people is about ethnicity and religion, can't u just say something else?
Interms of unity and division, this government is the worst ever is history.
Akshow:
All the idiots spewing thrash and supporting the op are still the same tribal bigot who are quick to label the whole northerners are bokoharam and killers. E reach election time now una remember say other tribes that are Christians are in the north.

op let me tell u. most xtian tribal people are facing more hardship under jona than any govt. u don't know the chiboks girls are mostly Christians? mubi, yobe Maiduguri and many other north east states that gej don't give a damn about providing security for their lives and properties have many xtians are Christians. and u think they will vote for him?
theV0ice:
If you guys knew all along that some people in even sokoto and kebbi support Jonathan, then why the blanket hatred and condemnation for the north? Why the rejoicing whenever the north experiences boko haram attack? Forgetting that even southerners who get their daily bread there are also victims a lot of times?
Raiders:
Must everything be about tribe to you. I guess you live in the west. And I am sure you have witness the 2008 and 2012 US elections. Most people in US voted for their presidential candidates based on real issue rather than on race, religion or ethnicity. this was how Obama won both elections. Why cant we Nigerians living in the west encourage Nigerians to vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues that affect them rather than play the tribal and religious politics like most uneducated Nigerians. I don't see anything wrong in you supporting PDP if your reason for supporting them is based on the party and candidate manifesto rather than the ethnicity or religion of the candidate. I am for the Niger delta and although I am not going to vote because I don't currently reside in Nigeria. I don't support PDP because I no longer believe in the party principles and they have failed Nigerians for the past 15 yrs. I just hope all Nigeria will be wise this time around and vote for their prefer candidates based on real issues affecting the country and their community because 54 yrs of tribal politics has taken us nowhere and has made us one of the poorest and unsafe countries on earth.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by BlackTechnology: 8:19am On Jan 20, 2015
Ikengawo:
We forget the north is a region and not an ethnic group. The ethnic groups have little to nothing to do with each other outside of being north of the Niger and Benue rivers but we want to group them as one. Buhari has ran an election every single election season and has always lost. When he wins on a state level the margins are still close. The truth is that Buhari doesn't have broad appeal to the North. While his Fulani brothers, and Hausa associates may be ok with him (usually the poorer more radical of these two groups), there are hundreds of groups in the North that constantly say no to Buhari every single 4 years.

My proof that the same buhari people saying that if GEJ came to the north there would be no crowd, that there's no PDP in Kano etc etc. GEJ rocked Kebbi and Sokoto, and supporters came in waves. I've never been one to believe in crowd counting because I'm not naive about how it works in this country but truth be told a GEJ crowd in the north is different for one clear reason.

These people risked their life to see GEJ. All month we have been hearing that people will be attacked, PDP members are being attacked. We have video footage of a truck being destroyed. We saw what happened last year. Plus there's now Boko Haram in the north that can hide among crowds, and still tens and thousands of people risked their life to see GEJ that were told to have been his 'enemies'.

This action has revived my respect for the North. It seems there's more to be known about the people of the North than the media allows us to hear. If there was a risk of death most southerners wouldn't even go to their own father's rally.


Fact of life

Comrade learn not to allow people divert your attention in your presentation as RAIDERS caused you to re direct your attention to America
Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by agabusta: 9:19am On Jan 20, 2015
Ikengawo:


you're speaking on something you didn't witness.






And from the nonsense white supremacist bigotry they campaigned for in order to discredit Obama, did they succeed? No!!!
Didnt Obama win?? Yes, he won!

This is because karma favours fairplay and not those stirring hate instead of love. Those stirring embers of continous religious/ethnic discord, God will never support (note the use of the word continous).

Did you hear the recent Pastor E.A. Adeboye ministration where he made it expressly known that God can even use his enemies at times to manifest his plans and glory.

You'll see that Jonathan will lose this election. And the country will be better of for it. Hateful peeps like you will bury your head in shame. And you'll see the elevation of liberal minds like Rochas Okorocha, Ngige and the rest.

I personally even though I am Yoruba, will be at the forefront campaigning for Rochas to be President in 2019 after Buhari's 4 years.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by agabusta: 9:21am On Jan 20, 2015
Gboliwe:


I am just sick of the hype especially here. They fail to understand that to be very fair, buhari can only be sure of votes from his fellow core fundamentalists, and them alone. Other groups and subs are not backing him completely despite being northerners too. Anyway, the time is at hand.

Please shut up. Buhari will garner votes across divides. In the North, East, West and South South. You'll be very much alive to see and witness it.
Jonathan's votes too will have the spread, but he will not have the numbers to win, Buhari will defeat him.

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Re: Not Every Tribe In The North Supports Buhari by 100Cents: 10:23am On Jan 20, 2015
Abagworo:
Anyone trying to sell Jonathan as a viable candidate is wasting his time. Buhari has served Nigeria at various levels and came out with distinctions. His anti-corruption stance 31 years ago in his brief 2 year stay as military head of State has remained a glorious era of our history.

Jonathan has also served at various capacity and brought calamity. His era as deputy Governor/Governor of Bayelsa saw cultism, militancy and death take over Bayelsa State and his 2 year in power as Governor produced no physical development. He has now served as VP/President for 8 years and the only remarkable thing remains "due process" enshrined by Yar'Adua but killed by Jonathan. Just like the bloodshed and militancy which characterised his stay in Bayelsa, same fate has befallen Nigeria under his watch.

It is left for Nigerians to make the right choice since both leaders have been tested.

31 Years ago you said.

And you still want a ruler who ruled 31 years ago. Are you really marching forward or backwards ?

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