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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 9:50am On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
now its zulu cavemen?

Not knowing that the bantus reached the highest level of development of all black africans prior to colonization

Not knowing that of all the african peoples, the bantus were the only ones to provide any real resistance to colonization

Brah, there is a reason that even the racist apartheid regeim maintained a full battalion comprised of zulus and the racist rhodesian army was 40% matabele

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 9:53am On Jan 22, 2015
patches689:


wikipedia is not a valid source - you have said so yourself on many occasions.

Provide a citation

i know the thought of Nigeria wooping the military that south africans glorify so much can cause so much butthurt.

you can't change history bruh. Nigeria is not libya.

we wooped chad and cameroon and controlled disputed territories. that os military power

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:00am On Jan 22, 2015
stillchris:


i know the thought of Nigeria wooping the military that south africans glorify so much can cause so much butthurt.

you can't change history bruh. Nigeria is not libya.

we wooped chad and cameroon and controlled disputed territories. that os military power

You keep saying it - but you have yet to provide concrete proof

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:03am On Jan 22, 2015
Patchesagain:
Not knowing that the bantus reached the highest level of development of all black africans prior to colonization

Not knowing that of all the african peoples, the bantus were the only ones to provide any real resistance to colonization

Brah, there is a reason that even the racist apartheid regeim maintained a full battalion comprised of zulus and the racist rhodesian army was 40% matabele
only the bantu resisted colonization?,what of the ethiopians?.you are a liar mr patrick.the bantus didnt offer much resistance against the british,they werent sophisticated enough to innovate powerful weapons to combat western invasion.unlike the ethiopians,who right from the time of emperor hel salessei who was the last ruler of axum empire{which comprised of ethiopia,somalia,kenya and lower egypt},have always repelled foreign invasion from their land.the ethiopians were the most developed and civilized african tribe.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:05am On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
only the bantu resisted colonization?,what of the ethiopians?.you are a liar mr patrick.the bantus didnt offer much resistance against the british,they werent sophisticated enough to innovate powerful weapons to combat western invasion.unlike the ethiopians,who right from the time of emperor hel salessei who was the last ruler of axum empire{which comprised of ethiopia,somalia,kenya and lower egypt},have always repelled foreign invasion from their land.the ethiopians were the most developed and civilized african tribe.

Ethiopians arent black or bantu

Try understand the argument before chipping in your 10 cents

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:16am On Jan 22, 2015
Patchesagain:


Ethiopians arent black or bantu

Try understand the argument before chipping in your 10 cents
you amuse me,mr patrick of guasteng.you claim that ethiopians arent black,what are they then?,green?.arent ethiopians africans?,i can understand if you claim egyptians arent africans,but ethiopians are indeed africans

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by axum: 10:22am On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
only the bantu resisted colonization?,what of the ethiopians?.you are a liar mr patrick.the bantus didnt offer much resistance against the british,they werent sophisticated enough to innovate powerful weapons to combat western invasion.unlike the ethiopians,who right from the time of emperor hel salessei who was the last ruler of axum empire{which comprised of ethiopia,somalia,kenya and lower egypt},have always repelled foreign invasion from their land.the ethiopians were the most developed and civilized african tribe.


Ethiopian isn't a tribe. I am Somali, and Ethiopia is made of many ethnic groups the majority being Cushitic/Semetic speakers who are Somali, Afar, Tigrey, Amahara, Oromo and those people have a common ancestor and controlled the Horn of Africa to Southern Egypt at certain times in history and including parts of Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:34am On Jan 22, 2015
axum:



Ethiopian isn't a tribe. I am Somali, and Ethiopia is made of many ethnic groups the majority being Cushitic/Semetic speakers who are Somali, Afar, Tigrey, Amahara, Oromo and those people have a common ancestor and controlled the Horn of Africa to Southern Egypt at certain times in history and including parts of Saudi Arabia and Yemen.
indeed,i know that ethiopia isnt a singular tribe,just like nigeria isnt a monotribal nation.i was just using the word 'tribe' to unify the ethiopians in my arguement.the word 'nation' would have sounded too foreign and modern.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 10:35am On Jan 22, 2015
Patchesagain:


You keep saying it - but you have yet to provide concrete proof

i understand... it's hard to digest

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 10:59am On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
you amuse me,mr patrick of guasteng.you claim that ethiopians arent black,what are they then?,green?.arent ethiopians africans?,i can understand if you claim egyptians arent africans,but ethiopians are indeed africans

I am talking about bantus here

Again, try understand what is being discussed before adding your 10c
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 11:01am On Jan 22, 2015
stillchris:


i understand... it's hard to digest

I allways struggle to digest nigerian delusions
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 11:06am On Jan 22, 2015
Patchesagain:


I am talking about bantus here

Again, try understand what is being discussed before adding your 10c
i was correcting your statement about the bantus being the most developed african tribe,you claimed that only the bantus have ever successfully resisted western invasion,which of course,was a lie.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 1:00pm On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
i was correcting your statement about the bantus being the most developed african tribe,you claimed that only the bantus have ever successfully resisted western invasion,which of course,was a lie.

black african tribe

Patchesagain:

Not knowing that the bantus reached the highest level of development of all black africans prior to colonization

Yet again, i must tell you to read the argument and understand the argument before adding your 10 cents

FYI: Ethiopians are considered Eurasian

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:19pm On Jan 22, 2015
agaugust:


Some Sub-Saharan air forces have modernized F-7 Airguard jets, modernized F-5 Tiger-Shark jets, MiG-29 jets, Su-27 jets, and Su-30 Flanker jets to challenge your Gripen escort jets and also shoot down all your Hawk jets before you reach target.

Fool, only your country has an air force in black Africa? Fool !
.

They stand no chance.

By the time their aircraft taxi on the runway, things will be blowing up.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:26pm On Jan 22, 2015
agaugust:


Those SADF regiments you call controversial were actually the best in the army, like the Buffalo Battalion and regimented who demolished your rag tag ANC guerilla freedom fighters to the point that your guerrillas became totally impotent.

The fear of these white elite forces made Mandela to disband, frustrate, and retire them, and then replaced these experienced SADF soldiers with your long list of illiterate Bantu bushmen failed guerrillas who now became the weak and HIV sick SANDF of today, plus many jobless civilian men recruited from the streets of Soweto slums with near zero education and zero military ambition, all joined SANDF for the sake of getting monthly salary to feed their hungry families that were starving under apartheid rule.

SANDF is sick, illiterate, inexperienced, and incompetent
.

They were trained by the SADF. There's nothing special about them. The 32 battalion was used to save white South Africans from dying. They were absorbed into regular units.

It is a battalion like any other deployed SA battalion wasn't a really a battalion but a battalion group. Training was from the SADF.

A month ago you were saying ANC freedom fighters were hitting the SADF really hard.

Soldiers retire and leave the army for various reasons, that doesn't affect standards. Majority of the SANDF officers fought in the bush war.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:28pm On Jan 22, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria and Chad have fought several times in that desert, last time around 1982 Nigerian army fought and defeated Chadian army as usual, we pursued them deep into the dessert and the Chadian army kept running!

When Nigerian army was 50km away from N'djamena the capital of Chad, our DHQ ordered our troops to stop advancing and come back home.

The bones of the Chadian army buried in the desert sand is a message they will never forget.

Dude, Chad is a terror only to South African army, you ran from Seleka, they stayed behind as your masters
.
They'll fight asymmetrical. That's their strength you'll be mauled in the desert.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by axum: 1:38pm On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
indeed,i know that ethiopia isnt a singular tribe,just like nigeria isnt a monotribal nation.i was just using the word 'tribe' to unify the ethiopians in my arguement.the word 'nation' would have sounded too foreign and modern.


You could have said indigenous people of the Horn of Africa, because many people from those ethnic groups are in all the countries of the horn (Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti).

We are also the best looking people, in addition to having a great glorious history.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by axum: 1:40pm On Jan 22, 2015
Patchesagain:


Ethiopians arent black or bantu

Try understand the argument before chipping in your 10 cents


People in Ethiopia aren't Bantu, they are Cushitic in ancestry just like in Eritrea, Djibouti and Somalia. The languages spoken by those countries are in the Semetic/Cushitic family which is part of Afroasiatic language family.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by axum: 1:41pm On Jan 22, 2015
Jiggaman must die cheesy
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 1:51pm On Jan 22, 2015
agaugust:


A whole 1,000 pounds weight bomb is NOT a small thing, see the photo...

Roland SAM shot down bombs smaller than Umbani in Falkland war. Fool !

By the way, how does your Hawk jet find target from so far away outside the range of enemy air defences? Hawk has no radar, and the FLIR is very short ranged a few kilometers. You are fooling yourself as usual dude grin
.

Radar isn't used to guide the glide bomb, when launched from the Hawk.

Target information can be loaded into the bomb prior to launch, including attack angle and direction.

Target information can include pictures, the IR seeker version has an ATR(automatic target recognition) capability also known as "scene matching". When the glide bomb is near the target it will compare its real time images with loaded pictures. And send a picture of the scene just before impact.

During the glide phase it is manoeuvrable, and can change direction. It doesn't just glide in a straight line to the target. It can bypass the air defence umbrella.

It can drop at a angle of 90 degrees from high altitude.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:06pm On Jan 22, 2015
patches689:

black african tribe
Yet again, i must tell you to read the argument and understand the argument before adding your 10 cents
FYI: Ethiopians are considered Eurasian
nonsense.ethiopians arent eurasians,they are black africans.the second most civilized african 'people' after egypt.if the ethiopians{cushites and semenese} are considered eurasians,then the bantu people are also foreign,the ethiopians are far more older than the bantu people.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 2:17pm On Jan 22, 2015
axum:

You could have said indigenous people of the Horn of Africa, because many people from those ethnic groups are in all the countries of the horn (Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, Djibouti).
We are also the best looking people, in addition to having a great glorious history.
countries like somalia,eritea,and djibouti broke away from the once vast ethiopian empire,they can be considered 'rogue' nations.while you people may nurture an heroic history,the region of the horn of africa is very unstable,the region has hardly known peace since the italian resistance.the people of the region may even be tagged as violent,wasteful and destructive.as for looking good,yes,i daresay,ethiopians and kenyans look very attractive indeed,the fact that they gain tourist attention and libido confirms the point.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by axum: 2:26pm On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
countries like somalia,eritea,and djibouti broke away from the once vast ethiopian empire,they can be considered 'rogue' nations.while you people may nurture an heroic history,the region of the horn of africa is very unstable,the region has hardly known peace since the italian resistance.the people of the region may even be tagged as violent,wasteful and destructive.as for looking good,yes,i daresay,ethiopians and kenyans look very attractive indeed,the fact that they gain tourist attention and libido confirms the point.

1. Kenyans are not good looking, maybe you saw Somalis/ethiopians who are in Kenya

2. Horn of Africa is relatively stable now, and Ethiopia has always been stable

3. Somalia has settled down and now we choose our own leaders, instead of western puppets

4. Lasting peace will return back to the Horn, and just like in the past we are gonna come back up

5. The regions that broke off from Ethiopia (Axum, Abyssinia) was for good reason, as Somalis accepted Islam 1400 years ago. I fact when the Arabs sought and asked the Ethiopian King for refuge he let them settle in what is now Northern Somalia, and those people who did not see themselves as being separate from Ethiopia started to get an identity after becoming Muslim, thus creating what is now Modern Somalia, which was in the past other Islamic Sultanates and Empires.

Eritrea broke off in 1993 and Djibouti became independent in 1970's.

Our region has a great history and culture, and we are a beautiful people in a beautiful land with much resources.

Our main challenge will be Bantus, as we do not see ourselves as Africa nor Black.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:10pm On Jan 22, 2015
Patchesagain:


Ethiopians arent black

What race are they ?
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 3:16pm On Jan 22, 2015
axum:
you do not consider yourselves black because you are from somalia,a kenyan or ugandan would consider himself black.i wouldnt consider kenyans ugly,they are beautiful,peaceful,and do not practice religious fanatism,unlike their radicalized neighbours.somalia is a failed state,plagued by a violent spate of islamic terrorism that has eaten deep into the region,even NATO cant withstand it.the radical jihadist cult,al shabaab,now exports islamic terror into the peaceful neighbouring kenya.i understand that the emperor of axum,out of the goodness of his heart,made the misguided decision of permitting the arab muslims to reside in the northern somali plains,this region later ceded from axum,due to their muslim identity,to form somalia,which is now a failed state.nigeria also made the same mistake by allowing uthman dan fodio to radicalize our northern region.a failed warthorn state like somalia has a very low chance of ever recovering in the next two centuries.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:38pm On Jan 22, 2015
EVarn:
you amuse me,mr patrick of guasteng.you claim that ethiopians arent black,what are they then?,green?.arent ethiopians africans?,i can understand if you claim egyptians arent africans,but ethiopians are indeed africans

Na d same question I dey ask mister patches
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:43pm On Jan 22, 2015
MikeCZAR:


They stand no chance.

By the time their aircraft taxi on the runway, things will be blowing up.

SANDF aircraft has already been destroyed on ground parked on air base because your useless 1km ceiling Starstreak missile has no radar to detect incoming enemy air force.

SANDF Hawks and Gripens get deleted while your jets are parked on the ground.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:52pm On Jan 22, 2015
MikeCZAR:
They'll fight asymmetrical. That's their strength you'll be mauled in the desert.

Why has Chad never fought Nigeria in asymmetric war since 1980s when we beat them 3 times?

Nigeria has millions of northern desert people that can raise peoples 100,000 man insurgency force to infiltrate Chad and mix with civilians undetected because we trade with them in Hausa and Fulfulde languages, nobody has monopoly of raising up insurgency.

Chad's operations in Mali and C.A.R were all conventional wars, guerrilla warfare is NOT the strength of Chad, they have a national army with uniforms and obey UN laws of war.

What kind of a South African white man are you? You think like a retaarded Bantu !
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 3:52pm On Jan 22, 2015
agaugust:
Na d same question I dey ask mister patches
lol.old mr patchypatchy doesn't even know that ethiopia is located on the african continent.he probably thinks ethiopians are gods that ride flaming chariots in the sun.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 4:06pm On Jan 22, 2015
Where is @agaugust who asserted that BH claim to have captured weapons at Baga was just a propaganda? The national security adviser finally comes out of the closet about the truth and label soldiers as cowards.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/22/nigeria-soldiers-cowards-boko-haram

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:40pm On Jan 22, 2015
mzilakazi:
Where is @agaugust who asserted that BH claim to have captured weapons at Baga was just a propaganda? The national security adviser finally comes out of the closet about the truth and label soldiers as cowards.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/22/nigeria-soldiers-cowards-boko-haram

The story is fake. Book Haram displayed just quantities of old rusty rifles and a few mortars, your fake story said it included 6 armoured vehicles and artillery guns !!!! Show us the armoured vehicles and artillery !!!!

Bwahahahaaha, same way BBC said 2,000 died in Baga, only for same BBC to apologize later that it was 150
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:54pm On Jan 22, 2015
agaugust:


SANDF aircraft has already been destroyed on ground parked on air base because your useless 1km ceiling Starstreak missile has no radar to detect incoming enemy air force.

SANDF Hawks and Gripens get deleted while your jets are parked on the ground.
It is part of the GBADS.

It is guided by Thales page radar.

The Thutlwa radar can detect aircraft up to 120km. It is used to guide the Oerlikon guns

While SAAF mobile radars can pick up planes up to 500km.

As part of the GBADS SANDF will receive 2 more new radars. RSR 320 and Skyshield sensor.

Air power they stand no match.

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