MikeCZAR:
Do you know who's this Dasuki guy?

Yes, well informed about your military. Oh erase that I meant band of cowards.

he isnt neither the director of the SSS nor is he the CDS,so he has limited info until he is briefed.why dont you concentrate on your nose~diving economy?

http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Campaign-vs-Boko-Haram-hampered-by-cowards-20150122

This pretty much sums up what we've beeeen saying. Bunch of under equipped cowards


London - Nigeria's campaign against Islamist Boko Haram insurgents is being hampered by "cowards" within the armed forces, its presidential security adviser said in a rare public signal of unhappiness in the military high command with the effort.

Boko Haram's bloody uprising to carve out a breakaway Islamic caliphate has taken much of Nigeria's northeast and poses the worst threat to Africa's most populous state and biggest energy producer and at least three of its neighbours.Boko Haram claimed a 3 January attack on the town of Baga that killed scores, possibly hundreds, of civilians and left the jihadists in control of the headquarters of a regional multinational force including troops from Niger, Chad and Cameroon.

Nigerian soldiers fled the area after Baga was overrun. It was the latest in a recent series of Boko Haram successes that has cast doubt on the commitment of some in the Nigerian military, and 22 officers including a brigadier general are on trial over alleged sabotage in the war effort."Unfortunately we have a lot of cowards. We have people who use every excuse in this world not to fight," Sambo Dasuki, the top security adviser to President Goodluck Jonathan, told an audience at the Chatham House think-tank in London.


But, he stressed, "there is no high-level conspiracy within the army not to end the insurgency."It is highly unusual for senior Nigerian security officials to comment on the counter-insurgency campaign, especially at the level of Dasuki, but it pointed to discontent within the security establishment with the conduct of the fight.

EVarn:
he isnt neither the director of the SSS nor is he the CDS,so he has limited info until he is briefed.why dont you concentrate on your nose~diving economy?

And to what extent has be been briefed? They only briefed him on 5% of what is going on? Or do you think a man who makes such statements has almost the complete picture of what's really going on. Desperation  

MikeCZAR:
can you fast forward this movie to where your military gets involved.

you still dont understand do you?.i guess it would have been too much to expect you to utilize your mental faculties.our military got involved at a critical stage,and you cannot expect magic from them.the politicians didnt take BH seriously in beginning,until BH became too bothersome.but notwithsanding,our troops have recaptured nearly all captured territories.

saengine:


And to what extent has be been briefed? They only briefed him on 5% of what is going on? Or do you think a man who makes such statements has almost the complete picture of what's really going on. Desperation  

you cant expect the NSA to be fully briefed when he is abroad.compilation of evidence and collective analysis takes time,so the NSA may have limited knowledge of events.

saengine:
http://m.news24.com/news24/Africa/News/Campaign-vs-Boko-Haram-hampered-by-cowards-20150122

This pretty much sums up what we've beeeen saying. Bunch of under equipped cowards


London - Nigeria's campaign against Islamist Boko Haram insurgents is being hampered by "cowards" within the armed forces, its presidential security adviser said in a rare public signal of unhappiness in the military high command with the effort.

Boko Haram's bloody uprising to carve out a breakaway Islamic caliphate has taken much of Nigeria's northeast and poses the worst threat to Africa's most populous state and biggest energy producer and at least three of its neighbours.Boko Haram claimed a 3 January attack on the town of Baga that killed scores, possibly hundreds, of civilians and left the jihadists in control of the headquarters of a regional multinational force including troops from Niger, Chad and Cameroon.

Nigerian soldiers fled the area after Baga was overrun. It was the latest in a recent series of Boko Haram successes that has cast doubt on the commitment of some in the Nigerian military, and 22 officers including a brigadier general are on trial over alleged sabotage in the war effort."Unfortunately we have a lot of cowards. We have people who use every excuse in this world not to fight," Sambo Dasuki, the top security adviser to President Goodluck Jonathan, told an audience at the Chatham House think-tank in London.


But, he stressed, "there is no high-level conspiracy within the army not to end the insurgency."It is highly unusual for senior Nigerian security officials to comment on the counter-insurgency campaign, especially at the level of Dasuki, but it pointed to discontent within the security establishment with the conduct of the fight.

False and fake, all lies and British propaganda.

Same way BBC published lies and misled the whole world saying 2,000 people died in Baga , then later apologized saying it's 150 people.

Wait for a few weeks and BBC will say the story is an error....e.g, Nigerian army is not 62,000 men only, according to the lies loaded into that story.

Keep posting British propaganda because they are still ruling South African minds and economy, you helped them defeat Boers yet the same British turned around to enslave you with apartheid.

South Africans, please continue to drink British urine directly from the toilet bowl, they own you for ever
.

EVarn:
you cant expect the NSA to be fully briefed when he is abroad.compilation of evidence and collective analysis takes time,so the NSA may have limited knowledge of events.

Lmao!!!!!!!! One of the worst excuses ive ever heard. How long has he been abroad? Since before Boko Haram was active?

agaugust:


False and fake, all lies and British propaganda.

Same way BBC published lies and misled the whole world saying 2,000 people died in Baga , then later apologized saying it's 150 people.

Wait for a few weeks and BBC will say the story is an error....e.g, Nigerian army is not 62,000 men only, according to the lies loaded into that story.

Keep posting British propaganda because they are still ruling South African minds and economy, you helped them defeat Boers yet the same British turned around to enslave you with apartheid.

South Africans, please continue to drink British urine directly from the toilet bowl, they own you for ever
.

Shame. I can almost see you crying alone in your room. The Nigerian NSA never said those words? BBC made up those words?

Today is a sad sad day for all Nigerians on this forum

saengine:

Lmao!!!!!!!! One of the worst excuses ive ever heard. How long has he been abroad? Since before Boko Haram was active?

in Nigeria,things work according to hierachy.the minister for defense is the highest national security official,so once the NSA is abroad,the director of the department for state security stands in the NSA's stead under full command of the minister for defense.if the minister for defense is absent,then the minister for interior can hold his stead.so its possible that the NSA was not fully informed of events on ground.

EVarn:
in Nigeria,things work according to hierachy.the minister for defense is the highest national security official,so once the NSA is abroad,the director of the department for state security stands in the NSA's stead under full command of the minister for defense.if the minister for defense is absent,then the minister for interior can hold his stead.so its possible that the NSA was not fully informed of events on ground.

Hello. Hi. You....yes you. Simple question that i asked....how long has your NSA been abroad? A few years or more probably a few days? He is fully aware of the situation on the ground in Nigeria. Hence he made these comments. Why would a man with such an important title make such striking comments if he himself knew he's not up to date with the situation troops face (or rather runaway from) on the ground? Your soldiers are cowards. Message straight from the top. Full stop.

saengine:



Shame. I can almost see you crying alone in your room. The Nigerian NSA never said those words? BBC made up those words?

Yes, same way BBC made up a fake casualty figure of 2,000 civilians dead in Baga, and apologized later when Nigerian army proved the true casualty is only 150 people including Boko Haram fighters
.

agaugust:


Yes, same way BBC made up a fake casualty figure of 2,000 civilians dead in Baga, and apologized later when Nigerian army proved the true casualty is only 150 people including Boko Haram fighters
.

Cool story bro. Are you done crying?

EVarn:
nonsense.ethiopians arent eurasians,they are black africans.the second most civilized african 'people' after egypt.if the ethiopians{cushites and semenese} are considered eurasians,then the bantu people are also foreign,the ethiopians are far more older than the bantu people.

Dont argue with me

Argue with anthropologists

agaugust:


SANDF aircraft has already been destroyed on ground parked on air base because your useless 1km ceiling Starstreak missile has no radar to detect incoming enemy air force.

SANDF Hawks and Gripens get deleted while your jets are parked on the ground.

What deatroys them on the ground?

Incoming bogies will be detected by mobile radar stations long before you get close

Patchesagain:


What deatroys them on the ground?

Incoming bogies will be detected by mobile radar stations long before you get close

Same way your own bogies will be detected by enemy mobile radar stations before you get close.

Any way, SANDF has NO mobile air search radar as at today.

Your 1km ceiling useless starstreak anti-aircraft missile has no equipment to detect enemy aircraft, it depends on human eyes looking up in thy sky like a kid flying his kite

So enemy jets fly at 5km or even less, and bo.mb the whole SAAF jet fighter squadrons parked on ground like no man's business !

Then Jacob Zuma has no air force any more !

saengine:


Cool story bro. Are you done crying?

Nobody cries over British propaganda bros

agaugust:


SANDF has nothing like that today, GBADS is scheduled for 2017 but no money.

Nigeria is buying JF-17 Thunder this year with precision guided weapons for air to ground attack
.

Those radar systems have allready been aquired

CRAM project FINISHES in 2017

agaugust:


False and fake, all lies and British propaganda.

Same way BBC published lies and misled the whole world saying 2,000 people died in Baga , then later apologized saying it's 150 people.

Wait for a few weeks and BBC will say the story is an error....e.g, Nigerian army is not 62,000 men only, according to the lies loaded into that story.

Keep posting British propaganda because they are still ruling South African minds and economy, you helped them defeat Boers yet the same British turned around to enslave you with apartheid.

South Africans, please continue to drink British urine directly from the toilet bowl, they own you for ever
.

When did the BBC change their story from 2000 to 150?

Your whole argument is based on that, you have been saying it for days

But you are unable to prove it...

Patchesagain:


When did the BBC change their story from 2000 to 150?

Your whole argument is based on that, you have been saying it for days

But you are unable to prove it...

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British Media Confesses : We Have Been Telling Lies About Nigeria Vs Boko Haram !

BBC Admits it gets information from facebook, etc

BBC Admits it gets casualty figures from people who already fled Baga without waiting to count the dead


"The Baga killings last week are a case in point, with politicians and government officials offering vastly different information - from 150 dead to 2,000.

News of another attack by Islamist militants from Boko Haram often starts as a vague one-liner as was the case on 3 January: "Attack on Baga. Loud gunfire heard."

This first bit of information often comes via social media. The challenge now is to find out the details and there are plenty of obstacles in the way of getting to the truth."

But every witness we speak to is fleeing for their life. They are not hanging around Baga to check exactly what's happening so it is hard to be sure we are getting facts.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30794829

BBC is racist !

BBC is foolish

BBC hates Nigeria.

BBC hates black people.

BBC has been deliberately publishing false information across the world to downgrade and embarrass a black nations army, the Nigerian army.

Britain is envious of Nigerian military success in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Niger Delta, Mali, and North East Nigeria while the 'Great' British army has failed in war against Islamic terrorists after a whole 11 years of war in Afghanistan, Britain is running back home with it's defeated armed forces !

So BBC wants to mess up Nigerian army in envy and vendetta !

Shame on you Britain, shame on you racist nation !
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Patchesagain:


Those radar systems have allready been aquired

CRAM project FINISHES in 2017

Show us the photos and details !
.

agaugust:


[size=16pt]

British Media Confesses : We Have Been Telling Lies About Nigeria Vs Boko Haram !

BBC Admits it gets information from facebook, etc

BBC Admits it gets casualty figures from people who already fled Baga without waiting to count the dead


"The Baga killings last week are a case in point, with politicians and government officials offering vastly different information - from 150 dead to 2,000.

News of another attack by Islamist militants from Boko Haram often starts as a vague one-liner as was the case on 3 January: "Attack on Baga. Loud gunfire heard."

This first bit of information often comes via social media. The challenge now is to find out the details and there are plenty of obstacles in the way of getting to the truth."

But every witness we speak to is fleeing for their life. They are not hanging around Baga to check exactly what's happening so it is hard to be sure we are getting facts.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/22/nigeria-soldiers-cowards-boko-haram


BBC is racist !

BBC is foolish

BBC hates Nigeria.

BBC hates black people.

BBC has been deliberately publishing false information across the world to downgrade and embarrass a black nations army, the Nigerian army.

Britain is envious of Nigerian military success in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Niger Delta, Mali, and North East Nigeria while the 'Great' British army has failed in war against Islamic terrorists after a whole 11 years of war in Afghanistan, Britain is running back home with it's defeated armed forces !

So BBC wants to mess up Nigerian army in envy and vendetta !

Shame on you Britain, shame on you racist nation !
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The Gaurdian is not the BBC

Now show us where they said 150 not 2000

Keep your mindless rants to yourslef and stick to factual debate

Also i dont think i need to remind you that the british were the ones who finally stabilized the situation in west africa (in months) after your military could not do it in a decade

agaugust:


Show us the photos and details !
.

They have been posted many times

agaugust:


Nobody cries over British propaganda bros

So even when there is a video of the Nigerian NSA speaking are you SURE this is propaganda? So even with this video link you are still prepared to say this man DID NOT say Nigerian troops are cowards?

In your small head you think u are succeeding in distracting people away from this article with your "BBC, 150-2000, propaganda". I wont be distracted.

Nigerian soldiers are COWARDS.....message straight from the very top.

http://www.chathamhouse.org/event/nigerias-security-insurgency-elections-and-coordinating-responses-multiple-threats

rka1:


Stop believing your white masters in the West. The NA was about 100,000 in 2013 and were recruiting to increase the size to 150,000.

You are too dumb to recognize relentless western propaganda.

BTW, he said the troops who dropped their weapons and ran were cowards, not Nigerian soldiers are cowards. But, whatever makes you sleep at night.

http://tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/news/item/9657-150-000-soldiers-needed-to-tackle-terrorism-coas

The west have nothing to do with this news, they merely wrote down what was said by your top security adviser in your land during press conference. He confirmed your totals to be at 62000 and not your bogus numbers. So, should we believe him or you, who does not have any top position in the government. However, it is your words against his.

saengine:


So even when there is a video of the Nigerian NSA speaking are you SURE this is propaganda? So even with this video link you are still prepared to say this man DID NOT say Nigerian troops are cowards?

In your small head you think u are succeeding in distracting people away from this article with your "BBC, 150-2000, propaganda". I wont be distracted.

Nigerian soldiers are COWARDS.....message straight from the very top.

http://www.chathamhouse.org/event/nigerias-security-insurgency-elections-and-coordinating-responses-multiple-threats

It was even shown on the news. @agaugust is suffering from a serious fake disease syndrome. So, everything is all about fake to him even when he is making love to his lover, it will not be for real.

agaugust:


[size=16pt]

British Media Confesses : We Have Been Telling Lies About Nigeria Vs Boko Haram !

BBC Admits it gets information from facebook, etc

BBC Admits it gets casualty figures from people who already fled Baga without waiting to count the dead


"The Baga killings last week are a case in point, with politicians and government officials offering vastly different information - from 150 dead to 2,000.

News of another attack by Islamist militants from Boko Haram often starts as a vague one-liner as was the case on 3 January: "Attack on Baga. Loud gunfire heard."

This first bit of information often comes via social media. The challenge now is to find out the details and there are plenty of obstacles in the way of getting to the truth."

But every witness we speak to is fleeing for their life. They are not hanging around Baga to check exactly what's happening so it is hard to be sure we are getting facts.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/22/nigeria-soldiers-cowards-boko-haram


BBC is racist !

BBC is foolish

BBC hates Nigeria.

BBC hates black people.

BBC has been deliberately publishing false information across the world to downgrade and embarrass a black nations army, the Nigerian army.

Britain is envious of Nigerian military success in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Niger Delta, Mali, and North East Nigeria while the 'Great' British army has failed in war against Islamic terrorists after a whole 11 years of war in Afghanistan, Britain is running back home with it's defeated armed forces !

So BBC wants to mess up Nigerian army in envy and vendetta !

Shame on you Britain, shame on you racist nation !
.[/size]

If your soldiers with fancy Bronx boots could have handled BH well from the start, the BBC couldn't have reported negative news about your military. Now your newly recruits and inexperienced special forces are labelled as cowards who come up with all excuses not to fight BH. Your military is doomed and will never even stand Lesotho in any battle.


However, many international media are not believing your lies that are told by military that only 150 people were killed. Many media are still standing at thousands.

agaugust:


False and fake, all lies and British propaganda.

Same way BBC published lies and misled the whole world saying 2,000 people died in Baga , then later apologized saying it's 150 people.

Wait for a few weeks and BBC will say the story is an error....e.g, Nigerian army is not 62,000 men only, according to the lies loaded into that story.

Keep posting British propaganda because they are still ruling South African minds and economy, you helped them defeat Boers yet the same British turned around to enslave you with apartheid.

South Africans, please continue to drink British urine directly from the toilet bowl, they own you for ever
.

Chief!! indeed you are truly hurt. Go and blame your NSA for telling the world the truth once and for all before Nigeria disappears beyond recognition. Telling lies will never help anyone. Pretending to the people that food is at plenty by applying petroleum jelly on your lips while in actual facts you are starving, will not help you. The world deserves to know the truth why the people are dying while you claim to have capable military. Tell the truth so that the world can help you.

Moreover, I stand to correct you. It seems your tears make you not to think clear. The Boers started apartheid and not the British, so stop feeding fellow Nigerians with lies. The word "apartheid" is derived from Afrikaans dummy.

EVarn:
you cant expect the NSA to be fully briefed when he is abroad.compilation of evidence and collective analysis takes time,so the NSA may have limited knowledge of events.

Just being abroad for just a day on the president request to go and beg for the British support since the election were just behind the door will make him lose the update of everything. He was sent to ask the British to do something about the security in Nigeria which the Nigerian military couldn't give because they were cowards. This time around the truth needed to come out one way or another, there was no way to duck and dive because the elections are near and only the total of 62 000 soldiers in the military was too small to enforce security in Nigeria.

Stories of Nigerian soldiers running away from Boko Haram militants have been widely reported - but low on ammunition and allocated vehicles that don't work, a former soldier says they are being outgunned and overpowered.

"Imagine me and you are fighting," the soldier tells me. "We both have guns but while you are wearing a bullet proof vest, I'm carrying an umbrella."

It is his way of explaining that the fight against Boko Haram is being undermined because the jihadists are often far better equipped than the soldiers.

Abiona is 40 years old and has been in the Nigerian army since he was 17. Or I should say had been, because along with more than 200 others he was dismissed last week for disobeying orders. He was accused of fleeing rather than fighting but says it was a tactical withdrawal.

He has survived several battles, in fact he sounds quite fearless, and wants to tell me about serious problems he encountered in the military.

"I've committed no crime why should I be scared?" Abiona says. "I don't carry a gun or knife. My only weapon is my mouth."

I have heard many reports of Boko Haram attacks where the soldiers ended up running away with the civilians. Traumatized parents separated from their children during the chaos have described to me how they saw troops pulling off their uniforms and fleeing. This is a rare chance to hear from the soldiers themselves.

"It was 10:30 at night," says Abiona remembering one battle in Borno State. "Suddenly we saw Boko Haram very close to our trenches. Those of us with machine guns started firing and I can tell you that was a bad day for Boko Haram. We killed more than 80 of them." After the night-long battle his soldiers were low on ammunition but when they urgently called for more supplies each soldier was given just 10 rounds. Not surprisingly, the next encounter was disastrous.

"Two days later Boko Haram were back," he tells me. "This time they had about 24 four-wheel drive vehicles, some with anti-aircraft guns mounted on them."


Outgunned and with colleagues being shot dead around him, Abiona says they retreated and spent the next 11 hours on the run as the jihadists pursued them through the bush.

There were other problems. He tells me about armoured vehicles that were in such poor mechanical condition they would just produce smoke and wouldn't move.

During another encounter with the enemy in Adamawa State he says there were military vehicles that ran out of fuel.

"What did you do?" I ask. "We had to abandon them and walk. You can't carry them on your head," was his blunt reply. Boko Haram seized the vehicles. Then in the battle for a place called Bazza he says their guns proved no match for the jihadists' firepower and so they again beat a hasty retreat.

"They overpowered us and many died. Our mortars and rocket-propelled grenades wouldn't even explode they were so old," says Ibrahim, another dismissed soldier who was in Bazza, adding: "Because of the corruption in the nation it makes everything run down."

The soldiers say they have learned that better equipment has recently been supplied to the troops but overall it seems the security situation is getting worse.

Just over 18 months ago, I watched President Goodluck Jonathan address the nation on TV as he declared a state of emergency in the north east of Nigeria and promised a massive military operation against the jihadists.

Within a few weeks I was bouncing along sandy tracks with the Nigerian military who were keen to show me some success.

Nigerian soldiers patrol near Marte in 2013
We reached the just-liberated village of Marte, close to Lake Chad - along with a couple of other remote settlements it had been briefly held by Boko Haram. I met people who were mightily relieved that the black and white jihadist flags were no longer flying and were hopeful that schools would soon reopen. Back then it looked like Boko Haram would never hold territory again.

This week I managed to get through on the phone to one of the people I'd met there. "Where are you?" I asked Abba. "We are all in Maiduguri city. There's not a single person left in Marte now. We all ran away with nothing but the clothes we were wearing," he said.

His village is back in the hands of Boko Haram but as a sign of just how disastrous the military campaign has been, huge swathes of north-east Nigeria are now in the hands of the jihadists.

Some may call the soldiers I met cowards. Others will say they were poorly equipped and badly let down.

"I just thank God I'm alive," Ibrahim tells me, adding: "But I pray for our colleagues who died - we couldn't carry their corpses away. May their souls rest in peace."

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-30930767

SANDF

saengine:


Hello. Hi. You....yes you. Simple question that i asked....how long has your NSA been abroad? A few years or more probably a few days? He is fully aware of the situation on the ground in Nigeria. Hence he made these comments. Why would a man with such an important title make such striking comments if he himself knew he's not up to date with the situation troops face (or rather runaway from) on the ground? Your soldiers are cowards. Message straight from the top. Full stop.

the NSA isnt the highest defence official.so he isnt the "top"

Patchesagain:


Dont argue with me

Argue with anthropologists

good that you gave up mr patrick.