davien:
And before the bible hindu texts claimed that everything had a beginning also and that all life on earth are related..

if what you say is true, they must have got this idea from the bible, the bible make this claimed first. The Jews existed before the Hindu.

timonski:
Actually when you sleep your brain repairs itself... What you see in your dreams are flashes of your memory during the day. Don't be deceived; your "spirit" goes nowhere.

are you not an atheist? I thought atheists don't believe in spirit.

malvisguy212:
are you not an atheist? I thought atheists don't believe in spirit.

i said "spirit" not spirit. You must have problems with comprehension. BTW i am not an atheist.

malvisguy212:
when you dream,your spirit travels a far distance from your body, but in a real sens you are asleep for only a minute. The bible do not give information about what you want, but the bible make it clear that God dwell in a spiritual realm.
( Isaiah:57:15).
We live in a physical world with its four
known space-time dimensions of length,
width, height (or depth) and time. The
God of the Bible, however, dwells in a
different dimension" the spirit realm"
beyond the natural perception of our
physical senses. It's not that God isn't
real; it's a matter of Him not being
limited by the physical laws and
dimensions that govern our world. He is spirit (John:4:24).

Can you provide Bible verses to the bold?

Nowhere in the Bible is it said that spirits aren't bound by our understanding of time...I want you look at it this way..as a Christian why are you making assumptions? I thought the Bible thinks for u...it surprised me to see you claim something so unbiblical

@ OP

Bwahaha... Religionists are always looking for something to prove that there is a God. That your post is laughable. It is clear you have no evidence of what you are saying when you have no idea on how to prove something outside time and space . Can you explain how such thing can have effect on nature? The nature we know to have existed proves otherwise and is still what I can't wrap my head around in this your overly plan to RECREATE God.

malvisguy212:
are you an atheist? where do spirit comes from?

no i am not u ur self u are a spirit only u don't recognise it

macof:


Answer my question. You started something pls finish it

was their any thing concerning big bang with what i wrote make una see oo heaaah!

U all are under illusion time does not exist what is eternity. Eternity is now it has no begining it will not start some day as christains and other religions believe. it will not end, it has no end weither their is a God or not the only thing that will remain is the eternal now every thing exist withen eternity not outside but not every thing is eternal forms especialy but energy is. If u become conscious as a point and part of the all pervading cosmic conscious energy then u become eternal(timeless)

human beings have or are spirit existing in a body(matter)that's by the way. It is not so the different b/w what u call spirit and matter is vibrational difference spirit are matter in higher vibration matter are spirit in lower vibration that why we can say God is all in all or all and all

macof:


Can you provide Bible verses to the bold?

Nowhere in the Bible is it said that spirits aren't bound by our understanding of time...I want you look at it this way..as a Christian why are you making assumptions? I thought the Bible thinks for u...it surprised me to see you claim something so unbiblical

God is the first caused,he exist where caused and effect are not real meaning He exist outside time, God dosent need time,energy or matter to exist,he is a spirit,this shouldn't be problem for you to understand.

malvisguy212:
God is the first caused,he exist where caused and effect are not real meaning He exist outside time, God dosent need time,energy or matter to exist,he is a spirit,this shouldn't be problem for you to understand.

dude...provide Bible quotation for me to take this as valid Christian principle
otherwise jst admit your Bible is incomplete and even you have been forced to shove it aside on occasion

macof:


dude...provide Bible quotation for me to take this as valid Christian principle
otherwise jst admit your Bible is incomplete and even you have been forced to shove it aside on occasion

it's you who are being bias, I provide multiples of verses that indicates God exist before time begin,you don't need a teacher to tell you what that mean.science say caused and effect are not real in the realm of outside time,and the bible indicated God dwell in out side time, what more do you want?

Beside,in my earlier post I say, the bible was not written for the sake of science,but for man to have a personal relationship with is creator.

malvisguy212:
if what you say is true, they must have got this idea from the bible, the bible make this claimed first. The Jews existed before the Hindu.

but not before the sumerians

malvisguy212:
it's you who are being bias, I provide multiples of verses that indicates God exist before time begin,you don't need a teacher to tell you what that mean.science say caused and effect are not real in the realm of outside time,and the bible indicated God dwell in out side time, what more do you want?

Beside,in my earlier post I say, the bible was not written for the sake of science,but for man to have a personal relationship with is creator.

You didn't provide verses stating God exists outside time

davien:
This claim is made by perhaps virtually every theist that wants to offer apologetics to the question of where "god" is.

My issue with this is that,besides the fact that the doctrines involved makes no such claim(or atleast claims "god" coming from "the clouds" ).

There is virtually no way to even state whether space and time has an outside,because it(space and time) encompasses all of existence..It would be the same as claiming space has an edge.
So if space-time encompasses all of existence(as far as we can tell),then what does the theist mean by claiming "god" lies outside existence as though it were known that existence contains an "outside"..

If you would like to offer your views to this,please do.

Somebody said davien is a female but davien claim he is a male. OK, davien if you are a male then how are you a female?

That is exactly how your question sound like.
How can you take the world's wrong explanation of time and space, and create a question out of this incorrect explanation?
Your question is based on a wrong premise.

HFOG:

Big bro e be like say na only you take our papa brain oh. You for remain small for us na

Sistilo you know say you carry well well for that department

davien:
This is why one needs to comprehend something before replying....why we say the universe is flat is because any given line drawn from points(a,b, and c) in space stay parallel(plus the mathematical derived geometry from the nature of the cosmic microwave background)
And why I said space expands into itself is because it's in a 4-dimensional plane and hence just expands(carrying everything along with it)......although my answer is just how I understand it....the scholarly answer is that your question does not apply to 4-dimensional expanding space..

Yes only atheist can comprehend the workings of the universe. /s

Stop saying space expands into it itself, it is impossible. It is expanding, simple.

Edit: scientists simply don't know what is beyond the universe because the "edge" of the universe cannot be observed.

LordReed:


Yes only atheist can comprehend the workings of the universe. /s

Stop saying space expands into it itself, it is impossible. It is expanding, simple.

Edit: scientists simply don't know what is beyond the universe because the "edge" of the universe cannot be observed.

And like I said,do not reply before comprehending..
scientist say they don't know what is beyond the observable universe ....i.e the universe that is made visible by light....and to say the universe has an edge would be to say it is finite and has a centre of gravity,which isn't the case.
What's really sad here is that all logic and science must be abandoned in pace of your "god".....

Hiswordxray:

Somebody said davien is a female but davien claim he is a male. OK, davien if you are a male then how are you a female?

That is exactly how your question sound like.
How can you take the world's wrong explanation of time and space, and create a question out of this incorrect explanation?
Your question is based on a wrong premise.

Well the "world's explanation" is based on empirical data acquired up until this moment....and I'd prefer that,over invalidated claims everyday...
If you had leprosy,would you take the world's cure or the biblical cure that's to kill two birds and dip the second birds' blood on your skin?

davien:
Well the "world's explanation" is based on empirical data acquired up until this moment....and I'd prefer that,over invalidated claims everyday...
If you had leprosy,would you take the world's cure or the biblical cure that's to kill two birds and dip the second birds' blood on your skin?

If I have any sickness want so ever I would apply the new testament method i.e I would heal it in the name of Jesus. I haven't taken any drug for a long time (since when I discovered I could heal myself with the name of Jesus).
The world and science is backward but instead of you people to try to meet up, you boast of your ignorance.

So I don't need the world's cure because God's grace is sufficient for me. In Christ I have a drug that can cure all sickness.

Hiswordxray:

If I have any sickness want so ever I would apply the new testament method i.e I would heal it in the name of Jesus. I haven't taken any drug for a long time (since when I discovered I could heal myself with the name of Jesus).

Oh,so you pick and choose which part of the bible to apply to your life?
Did "god's word" suddenly became inert in the old testament?...and isn't it ironic that you'll jump from which part of the bible to apply to your life just because it's convenient to you?

The world and science is backward but instead of you people to try to meet up, you boast of your ignorance.

Well it's the "world"and it's "ignorance"that allows this form of instant communication...

So I don't need the world's cure because God's grace is sufficient for me. In Christ I have a drug that can cure all sickness.

Good,so where were you during the ebola pandemic?

macof:


You didn't provide verses stating God exists outside time

No, we speak of God's secret. wisdom, a
wisdom that has been hidden and that
God destined for our glory before TIME BEGAN. (1 Corinthians. 2:7)

This grace was given us in Christ Jesus
before the BEGINNING OF TIME (2 Timothy
1:9)

The hope of eternal life, which God...
promised before the BEGINNING OF TIME
(Titus 1:2)

To the only God our Savior, through
Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty,
dominion and authority,BEFORE all TIME
and now and forever. Amen. (Jude
1:25)

This verses indicates God was acting before time began.

davien:
Oh,so you pick and choose which part of the bible to apply to your life?
Did "god's word" suddenly became inert in the old testament?...and isn't it ironic that you'll jump from which part of the bible to apply to your life just because it's convenient to you?
Well it's the "world"and it's "ignorance"that allows this form of instant communication...
Good,so where were you during the ebola pandemic?

The old covenant was between God and Israel but the new covenant is between God and the Church. I belong to the new covenant so it's only logical for me to follow the new covenant.
Well if you know how to communicate in the spirit I would prefer that. But I'm trying to reach a fallen human being so I have to come down to your level.
During Ebola pandemic I was in school in ekiti state but when we had holiday I went to Lagos and after sometime it ended (the Ebola pandemic). I wasn't afraid of Ebola because it's too small for my God.

Hiswordxray:

If I have any sickness want so ever I would apply the new testament method i.e I would heal it in the name of Jesus. I haven't taken any drug for a long time (since when I discovered I could heal myself with the name of Jesus).
The world and science is backward but instead of you people to try to meet up, you boast of your ignorance.

So I don't need the world's cure because God's grace is sufficient for me. In Christ I have a drug that can cure all sickness.

Seriously bro you are gonna get yourself killed doing that!!!

johnydon22:

Seriously bro you are gonna get yourself killed doing that!!!

Sorry to disappoint you, I am not dead and I'm not going to die.

following

Hiswordxray:

Sorry to disappoint you, I am not dead and I'm not going to die.

NEVER SAID YOU ARE DEAD WAS JUST A BROTHERLY ADVICE.....

This Malvisguy ehn

johnydon22:

NEVER SAID YOU ARE DEAD WAS JUST A BROTHERLY ADVICE.....

Well here is My own brotherly advice:
You are missing out. There is a much more easy way of getting heal than taking drugs any going to hospital. It's a simple prayer of faith and you are missing out on this because you refused to believe in God.

Hiswordxray:

Well here is My own brotherly advice:
You are missing out. There is a much more easy way of getting heal than taking drugs any going to hospital. It's a simple prayer of faith and you are missing out on this because you refused to believe in God.

You know that if God is so willing to see healthy people it is a bit lazy on his part to let them be sick in the first place. Do you really believe that God is willing to heal every sick person?

davien:
And like I said,do not reply before comprehending..
scientist say they don't know what is beyond the observable universe ....i.e the universe that is made visible by light....and to say the universe has an edge would be to say it is finite and has a centre of gravity,which isn't the case.
What's really sad here is that all logic and science must be abandoned in pace of your "god".....

You are the dumb one here because I have not mentioned God, simply wanted to point out the deficiency in your first post. Your prejudice stands revealed.

Pr0ton:
This Malvisguy ehn

hellow bro.