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Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by EmoBoy(m): 2:11pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Did I just read Mr Soludo praising Obasanjo and Ibrahim Babangida for their so called economic achievements and solid foundation? The same OBJ and IBB that Nigerians were tired of and chased out of office? Anybody who call's Obasanjo's eight year rule something worthy of praise is an ídiot! I didn't witness IBB's rule but judging from what Nigerians think of IBB, then I can same of him. Obasanjo was president for good eight years; the only positive thing he can boast of was paying our debts and saving money for us. Our transportation network was in shambles, education was a mess, and everything was a big mess during Obasanjo's regime. Obasanjo never laid any foundation for anything worthwhile. Obasanjo wasted critical years of our national life! Compare us with other countries from 1999 to 2007 with similar resources with ours and you'll see my point. Statistics never paint the true picture of events and situations some countries like Nigeria face. Every president has good statistics to back-up their bullshit. Goodluck and his team of economists will reel out positive statistics their administration can boast of. Even IBB and Abacha can do the same. Honestly, what I find disturbing is our inability to make valid judgment and opinions from our collective history. I'm not a GEJ or PDP supporter. Buhari or APC is not what we need, neither is the PDP. None of the current political parties have what it takes to change this country for the better. I was telling a friend that Nigeria does not have a "well performing" governor; we have not had one for the past 16 years - None that I'm aware of. He tried to mention Fashola, Akpabio and the rest we normally call "performing". We tend to call these people performing because we're like slaves. We've had so much suffering that we'll accept street lights and traffic lights as tremendous positive change. In a country like Nigeria that needs rapid investment in critical social infrastructure and strong sustainable institutions, the crop of leaders we've had at all levels are useless. From the presidency to the local government chairmen - all of them from a - z! Simple things that will facilitate the growth of businesses and the economy that other smaller nations can boast of, we don’t have. No proper steel manufacturing companies – its 28 years now since Ajaokuta was developed and destroyed by successive military dictators (Buhari inclusive). Please Nairalanders tell me, how do expect to drive manufacturing without having reliable steel producers? No electricity – How will businesses survive without constant power? No good proper identity management system – Nigerians underestimate the lack of a proper identity management system on the economy. It basically means there’s no trust in the financial system, you can’t borrow money without collateral. We don’t know our citizens, anybody can sign an affidavit for 200 naira in a local Nigerian and claim to be Nigerian, collect a passport and national ID card and also a voter’s card. No proper addressing system; Businesses can’t deliver or ship customer orders without efficiently. No proper education: In a country where a vast majority of the youths are ignorant of critical knowledge necessary for growth and development, how will businesses survive? I can go on and on but the fact remains that we don’t a single good leader who understands what this country needs and it’s painful. It pains me every single day. Nigeria is a perfect example of a disorganized country! 8 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by ogene007: 2:13pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
hermesprogidy: Please, nigerians need to know the identity of these 'magical' economists on Buhari's team who will solve the problem better than GEJ's present economic team. You guys should go beyond propaganda and provide us names, so that we will know their pedigree and where they are coming from. Failure to do this, we can safely assume that APC are mere noise makers who are simply riding on the emotions of gullible nigerians in their attempt to sneak into Aso rock true craft and avarice. GEJ till 2019. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by EmoBoy(m): 2:14pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Luchitec: You dey mind the man. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Boss13: 2:18pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
kmariko: I did not read any thesis except you read a different version. Soludo only asked questions and advised the president to do away with charlatans and palace praise worshippers deceiving him. The president will be wondering, why all these attacks on me and as usual his wicked aides will always find an excuse to deceive him further. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by hermesprogidy(m): 2:19pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
I totally agree with you and that is why I said nobody is expecting an El dorado anytime soon if Buhari wins the election. It may be difficult for them to put figures on some things, and frankly speaking most of the campaign strategies is aimed at base of pyramid Nigerians (who unfortunately are the majority) But the fact remains that Jonathan has nothing to offer and this country needs new leadership. If not for anything let Nigerians us this election to remind politicians that power lies in the hands of the people. Mess up, and you get voted out!! ![]() ![]() Boss13: |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Boss13: 2:25pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
hermesprogidy: Exactly. People power. @Emoboy, I could not respond to your comment because it is long. Since you did not witness IBB's regime then you are probably young. IBB was a dictator but his SAP policy kick started most of the economic programs we leverage on now. Obasanjo's administration and I stand to be corrected with facts and figures, still remains the best administration since the independence of this country. The administration is yet to be unbeaten. If you want to criticise the administration, bring your facts and not words. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by hermesprogidy(m): 2:26pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
That would be a futile attempt because they are not names you know. Did you know Fashola before he was voted in as Governor? Do you know who professor Osinbajo is? Hence I will not waste my MB mentioning names you do not know. Action speaks louder than words and certificates @GEJ's economic team?you mean GEJ's Rugby team.(running around like headless chickens) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ogene007: 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by maryhaam(f): 2:26pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
manny4life:yes glad I read it too,a sane youth should,one need to sitback and think carefully,everypoint he raised is worth it,am neither here nor there,just want the betterment of the country,there a lots of things that we don't even know,aside corruption,insecurity nd unemployment.it is well 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by EFFRAKATA: 2:29pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
egift: And who are the competent hands? Ameachi, Tinubu, Tambuwal, Saraki, i pity u all. GEJ till Buhari resit and pass his O level mathematics. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by kmariko: 2:40pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Boss13: I read every every bit of it. I was wondering whether I was living in the same country as described under Obasanjo. Which,"tree" among the grass can you one remember Obasanjo with. Name one lasting fundamental macro or micro economic "big bang" that Obasanjo economic team bequeathed to us. Interestingly in spite of all the figures we still do not produce iron the most basic unit of industrialization index |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by EmoBoy(m): 2:40pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Boss13: Like I said in my post, every administration can boast of facts and figures. Even Abacha and Buhari's administration has stats and figures to boast with. Why don't you start by telling me how Obasanjo's government is the best we've ever had? |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by ogene007: 2:51pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Boss13:GEJ and his economic team where never taken unawares by the present drop in crude oil prices, infact, they have always had a blueprint on how to revamp our economy. They had long started the diversification of our economy with the massive investment in agriculture, transportation, oil and gas, power supply, new automotive policy etc. It therefore is no surprise that revenue from crude oil export constitutes only over 50% of our GDP, and the government is working hard towards bringing it further down to about 40%. It takes an economic team that has been diligent and focused to achieve this feat just over 5 years. The devaluation of the naira stems from the drop in crude oil revenue, just as it has happened in other countries like Russia, Venezuela, Iran, that are heavily dependent on crude oil as a major source of foreign exchange. The present free fall of the naira that has been experienced in the past two weeks stems from the speculation arising from the uncertainties about the result of the february 14th elections. Foreign director investments in the capital market are being taken away due to this speculations, anxious nigerians are buying up as much dollars as possible over fear of the likely results of the elections, all causing a free fall of the naira. This artificial fall in the naira will normalize after the elections, if the results goes true to the expectations of the organised private sector (OPS). A GEJ victory will undoubtedly restore the much needed calm in the economy, while a victory for Buhari, though unlikely, will spell doom for the economy. It will typically be a case of jumping from the frying pan into fire. It is unfortunate that the opposition, rather than presenting a detailed economic blueprint on how they intend to solve the economic problems, are shrouding everything under a cloud of ambiguity and bogus promises. Which investor would make investment plans on the basis of vague and bogus promises? People will rather freeze any existing investments till the economic climate becomes clearer. Nigeria can ill-afford the present distractions from the APC factory of propaganda and lies which is achieving nothing other than to heat up the economic climate. We remain committed to the nigerian project under the able leadership of GEJ. GEJ till 2019. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by InvertedHammer: 2:55pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
/ ...That sweet feeling when an Economics graduate from UNN starts teaching ECON 101 to a hyped albeit clueless Havard graduate who happens to be the Coordinating Minister of Finance. ***just smiling*** \ 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by VoteWisely: 3:09pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
#VoteWisely #GEJ
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Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by ogene007: 3:14pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
InvertedHammer: Reeling out economic theories is not the same as being in the hot seat and dealing with the politico-economic realities on the ground. It was Soludo's textbook economics theories that allowed Akingbola and Ibru to almost ruin two of the biggest banks in the country, until Sanusi came to the rescue. So, save us that trash of a story. We all know that Soludo has not recovered from getting his fingers burnt in his attempt to become governor of anambra state. He should rather lick his wounds in silence than come here to reel out figures which do not factor in the political exigences that impact whatsoever economic policy any government would want to implement in nigeria. GEJ's economic team is about the best ever put together in the history of this country. The organised private sector and nigerians in general, trust in their ability to get the economy out of the woods. GEJ till 2019. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Lanspower(m): 3:21pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
saintiago1980:What is this one saying ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by XKZ(m): 3:21pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
LRNZH: Same of the same... Apart from Fashola and Osinbajo everyone you've mentioned is a product of the PDP. Why should we expect anything different. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by myproperty(m): 3:26pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
what Soludo wrote is a wake-up call to both APC and PDP, his analyses is quite interesting. This is the kind of issues the political parties should be telling us how to tackle or handle, but unfortunately both parties are birds of the same feather ideologically. I believe what Soludo said are not all true because he ones praised Peter Obi and now castigating him, the same thing El-rufai did by castigating Buhari during OBJ regime, telling us that Buhari is not electable being a serial failure academically, but today, in El-rufai's eyes Buhari is now the political messiah of Nigeria. The fact there is that Soludo is now a politician and that makes me understand GEJ and Peter Obi's bashing. Nevertheless he has raised very important issues that any serious government that would be in power come may29 must tackle. The country is facing serious economic crisis because of our dependent on oil. Whosoever becomes president would have no choice than to work, economic crisis on most occasion brings about a turn around for the better in most countries( that is if the government in power takes the right measures). This year would not be rosy economically and the government must be up and doing. Nigeria would survive and overcome her numerous problems and would be a great Nation. The time for that has come. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by kmariko: 3:27pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
ogene007: History is never one of the strengths of the citizenry. Many lives were ruined because if the professors theories and here we having people praising it to high heavens. Whatever happened to reading. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by derecho(m): 3:36pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
sincerenigerian:did you read the part where he said 95% of voters have made up their minds on who to vote?For all it's worth,people will vote along religious lines,trust,sympathy,tribe etc Wetin concern an illiterate man with all the analysis.He prefers a man who he can trust. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Bamz(m): 4:12pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
derespect: Black man. ![]() Better find time and read it. 3 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Nobody: 4:17pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Very interesting read, but as far as I am concerned, Jonathan's administration has been an administration of excuses, it is either he will blame past governments, or he will blame terrorism, blame, blame, blame. So far in his campaign, he has been about Buhari's certificate or 'Do you want to go to jail?' Buhari is too old, Buhari is not well.etc. If you read the article, it presented the current state of the Nigerian economy, although I won't agree with the grind he had with Peter Obi. Vote out Jonathan even if it is KOWA aspirant. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Orikinla(m): 4:30pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
VoteWisely: Was it GEJ that did the right thing to save Nigerians from Ebola or Governor Fashola? Let me address your ignorance. When Ebola was reported in Liberia, the Federal Government should have monitored movement of people going and coming from Liberia and the Nigerian immigrations should have also put in place all necessary preventive measures at the borders and airports into Nigeria, but the Federal Government failed to do so and that was how the first index case was recorded in Nigeria when the Liberian should have been quarantined at the airport and not allowed to enter into Lagos. If not for the prompt response to the Ebola emergency by Lagos State government the Ebola would have spread all over Nigeria. So, GEJ should not be claiming the credit of Governor Fashola of Lagos State. 1 Like
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Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by BrTune: 4:46pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
For Christ's sake did u just read what the OP wrote?! Your Ignorance is appaling saintiago1980: 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Nobody: 4:57pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Whats the point of massively building up reserves when the country is dying of poverty and starvation? Is this not the same question the governors asked Jonathan when they wanted him to share all the cash in the excess crude account. The governors are now complaining that there's no money. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by angelsing(m): 5:17pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
hermesprogidy:My brother, they are all in denial...Even if jesus shud come down and say anything about GEJ not performing right now they will insult him...They are so pathetic! 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 5:18pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Since soludo was Iweala's teacher, I know who to believe now on the state of our economy, Jonathan really finished this country, It will be tantamount to the hang man's noose if any sane mind deliberately thumb prints for the cursed Party Jonathan represents come February 14. I am so ashamed of the cesspit (with so many unsound mind), bestowed upon me by the unfortunate circumstances of birth. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 5:23pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
J12: This is the question only a f00l who missed his chance of any formal education should ask Our Governors), it must have generated from the Penguin brains running the current federal Govt. Your case is more pathetic that will you echo and re echo their senselessness, you only have unemployment and under employment to contend with, while they have the opportunity of taking economic refuge elsewhere. When I look at the Level of poverty on the streets presently, I only wish nematodes like you and your dumb governors were never born. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Caseless: 5:39pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
sincerenigerian:I couldn't skip a single line; I had to read everything. Buhari must sit down with soludo and get some lectures. Here is the best piece i'v read in a long time. Buhari must as a matter of fact meet soludo before the debate between him and gej. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by InvertedHammer: 5:45pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
ogene007:/ Yes. GEJ has the best team. And we are seeing the result and reaping the benefits a la the collapse of naira, the raid on foreign reserves, and worst of all, no economic goals set to be achieved. They are not doing any better than you do in your house. You get your salary, then appropriate accordingly to meet your basic needs. In Nigeria's context, they sell oil, and then appropriate accordingly making room for some amount to be looted. Nigeria's economy is on auto-pilot. GDP, Trade surplus, Consumer Price Index, Core inflation, you name it. The same BS indicators that look good on paper and statistical charts but do not show the real health of the economy in common sense terms. NOI is from the same school of thought that are involved in what I call "presentation economy". Even USA relied on all these BS and other technical economics jargon in 2008 yet the global recession started right under their nose. Then of course, Economics is not a pure science. \ 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by sniperwolf(m): 5:46pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Nice article, but He should know that paper economy are not always realised. There are always variances and huge variances as a matter of fact |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by bondingman: 5:56pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
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