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Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by kakakent: 5:59pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
sincerenigerian: Prof inuru mmiri ara nne gi oh dis is what dis anti-jonathans need always accusing dat cool dudde over every dick tom nd harry for gods sake oil prices is determined by d interactions of demand nd supply in the oil mkt can buhari maintain nigeria as the 3rd fastest growing economy in d world? Or is it jst to call his boys to stop bombing ? |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Caseless: 6:00pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
J12:show us the evidence that gej actually shared the money to the governors. Is there no difference between ECA and foreign reserve? What was in our foreign reserve b4 gej came on board and what do we have in there right now despite the oil boom? The point the governors made on ECA then was that; since the money was being saved for d rainy days, but the money kept depleting at every meeting ; i.e each time there was a govnor forum's meeting, for example, if they left the meeting with the knowledge of a certain amount in ECA, say $10billion, they come back to the next meeting realising that d money had dropped to say $10billion and, the trend continued. So this was why they decided that since the money is dropping and no one was telling them where the money was going to, it was better they shared the money and this(sharing) never happened. And what gej did to weaken their agitation was to decimate the NGF. Let's face facts, gej has destroyed our economy. 3 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by poseidon12: 6:00pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
domack99: Great objective piece by Prof. Soludo. I believe he is not really on the fence. As a top notch intellectual with fans on both sides of the political isle, he would not want to appear to be on any side. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Caseless: 6:03pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
kakakent:illiterate, go and read what is written above by soludo before posting flatulence. Do read, it helps. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by HOTWATER(m): 6:05pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Nice piece by Soludo the Economist . I still wonder in spite of the said achievements of OBJ, we are still struggling with power,rail,agric,petrol supply. What infrastructure did he put in place in his 8 yrs rule. GEJ stepped on toes and they are fighting back . |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 6:12pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
The economy roared to average yearly growth of 7% between 2003 and 2007 (although average monthly oil price under his regime was $38), and poverty dropped from estimated 70% in1999 to 54% in 2004. Obasanjo was his own coordinating minister of the economy and chairman of the economic management team— which he chaired for 90 minutes every week. I met with him daily. In other words, he did not outsource economic management. What an illiterate military officer could do, an Expo wielding PhD holder could not, yet he had the guts to ask for Buhari's certificate. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by poseidon12: 6:15pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
omenka: Sounds good, but if he does not say what he would do if he gets in, how else do we know. And I don't think it will hurt his chances if he explains how he intends to realise a campaign promise. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by ayusco: 6:40pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Great article by soludo. Those organising the presidential debates have a fantastic source material to base their questions on. I don't think soludo was praising the IBB or OBJ per say he was just commending their economic policies. This article makes for sombre reading especially for the Jonathan govt. Even if he wins(which I strongly doubt) can he show the competence and political will to guide nigeria out of this economic quagmire? From his actions I don't think he can. GEJ as a person seems likeable but is overwhelmed by the job at hand. He atleast could bequeath a legacy of a better electoral process than his predecessors. As for the GMB crew this is not time for any high fiving but deep understanding and sober reflection of the issues soludo raised. More of detailed facts and less sloganeering please apc. Whoever wins nigerian should have no illusions that we are in for tougher times ahead but God willing we shall prosper. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by omenka(m): 6:48pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
poseidon12:Bro, Nigerian politics is not like that. People around here easily get swayed by emotions and sentiments. You saw how PDP capitalised on his statement that if he gets elected, he would scrap the Office of the First Lady. Of course that is a cost saving initiative and in addition, it is even an office not recognised by the constitution, yet it gets its own dedicated appropriation in the budget, but then, PDP went to town saying Buhari is anti women and would ensure women are just confined to the kitchen pounding yams for their husbands if he gets elected!! A lot of people bought the argument and hated Buhari for it regardless of the merits in such a policy. So you see, I know he has the best of intentions for us but some of them are best kept close to his heart and not discussed in public at the moment. Most voters aren't intellectually mature enough to understand the import of some of these things and that is what PDP capitalises on; people's ignorance. In due time, they would come to the fore and implemented, then we would all see the advantages of such policies. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 6:59pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
why was the railway not working during your tenure? What has Jonathan's five routes poorly thought out, railway project contributed to the Nigerian economy? Soludo is a Prof. of Economics not tourism. Nigerians like you want to see trains deprived you from your Childhood, Prof. wants to see trains that could link West Africa, to make a positive mark on Nigeria's GDP. despite the huge sums injected into the power sector yet phcn failed. NIPP of $16b (less than what Jonathan misappropriates yearly by the way) is the only reason Nigeria is close to having steady electricity, don't think that Un bundling the PHCN and Privatizing it by Jonathan actually added any value, nope, according to his defunct Power minister they are restructuring what the NIPP has on ground. If OBJ was allowed a third term, I am certain that he will witness teh commissioning of most NIPP projects and Nigeria will at least have gotten electricity right by 50%. Jonathan did not successfully complete a single power plant in his 6yrs reign, trust me on that Why wasnt any of our university among the best 200 then? rather Obj built personal libraries and universities to his name. His mentioning the Universities was a sarcasm, he is saying that we have not funded the existing ones yet the dumbo is creating more glorified secondary schools and calling it a university. All federal Government projects in the east was stopped or frustrated. Was Onitsha to Owerri road stopped and frustrated too? what of the monopolistic approach of Obj when only Dangote was allowed to import anything and frustrated other peoples businesses that were opposed to him.since the agricultural sector was better during obj's tenure why dint it add to our foreign reserves and massive corruption in that sector was still rife. what about the haliburton and other numerous scandals. Soludo did not tell us that increasing workers salary then affected our recurrent expenditure now. Allowing import monopoly in some key areas relieves the Forex pressure on the govt, guess you have never thought of it that way, lol, did i hear corruption in comparative terms with what is going on today? I really cant say. Increasing minimum wage to score cheap electoral points in 2011, was ill thought out and can only come from a ret@rd, OBJ will not make that mistake. It is economically unsustainable and today we are seeing the effects with states having to borrow to pay wages, Jonathan did not do you any favor with that policy, rather the opposite was the case. The thing is anybody can come and reel out figures as if it were paradise during thier own era. This is a nice presentation but not without some personal bias I still think both parties can learn a lot from this if they objectively look at the salient points raised. The truth is; only a blind, evil soul will praise an administration as disastrous as Jonathan's. Jonathan would not get a single vote not even from his wife, whom the reality of the economy will force her to vote for APC, if majority of Nigerians were sane. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by exx(m): 7:05pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
There were more matured reply's to Soludos write up in the Vanguard newspaper than wat I'm seeing on Nairaland ![]() |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by meccuno: 7:27pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
egift:I think he owes Nigeria a duty to explain to us how he would achieve it since he has been projected as the messiah from the SW media....... |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Nobody: 7:34pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
jpphilips: You are a colossal slowpoke. Your brain is filled with nothing but soap. Get the hell outta here if have nothing to talk about |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by 1988: 7:37pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
saintiago1980:Are u high on grass? |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 7:47pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
J12: You in that post reference the governors not you, the bracket was incomplete. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 7:48pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
J12: "You" in that post reference the governors not you, the bracket was incomplete. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by donkafor(m): 8:02pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Kudos that Prof is a changed man now. I can remember vividly during the Anambra Gubernatorial Election under the platform of PDP, you were busy promising us African Dubai Taiwan without telling us how. Maybe because of your long sabbatical leave from partisan politics. Practice what you teach! |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by EndtimeBlessing: 8:05pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
I weep for Nigeria that people like Soludo (and there are many of him) are useless to us. I weep for Nigeria that a Goodluck Jonathan ever had the leadership of this country entrusted upon him. I weep for Nigeria that we had to be boxed to exhume a Buhari of past glory to navigate our future, the future of our children! I weep for Nigeria because her youths have been shortchanged and they know it not. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by lucianohase(m): 9:11pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
owobokiri:Though I support Gej and will vote for him,but I still wish that he reads this article and digest it,with a mind free of sentiment, for the good of nigeria and for his own good as a leader who wants to be re-elected. I don't care about the Prof's motives of writing this but I care about the veracity of some of the contents of this piece. Its only a wise man that reads through his documented plans severally to know whether there are errors or vague plans,with the intention of making corrections or making it clearer. And most times to do this,the wise man samples oppinions and listens to constructive critiscisms which usually are bitter and annoying. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by XKZ(m): 10:02pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
jpphilips: This is not really true. The size of the market remains the same no matter how many firms are importing the product and companies will not import goods when there is no demand for the product. Monopolies offer advantages such as economies of scale leading to reduced prices, large profits leading to investment in R& D, price discrimination in favour of the economically disadvantaged... But we all know Nigerians were not enjoying this benefits, rather the benefiting monopolies used the privilege to extort Nigerians and then pay kickbacks from their abnormal profits to their government benefactors. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by XKZ(m): 10:11pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
donkafor: That's the problem with Nigeria. Not that we do not have brilliant minds and individuals who know what to do; but rather our leaders do not practice what they preach. When out of government they are the voice of wisdom, when they get into power they are only interested in lining their pockets. Although I do not think we should blame Soludo for the banking crisis, he definitely has a case to answer when it comes to the polymer notes issue. 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 10:14pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
XKZ: Does import restriction through Govt monopoly reduce pressure on FOREX, Yes or No? |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by mpowa(m): 10:20pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
Chigold101: Na wa oh! Nigerians are funny sha! how we bring sentiments to everything behooves me. what has unforgiveness got to do with economic analysis? No matter how much he hates Jonathan, he won't have had enough failures to reel out like he did, these are not figures from the air, they're available statistics and facts, what has unforgiveness got to do with it? 2 Likes |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by XKZ(m): 10:22pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
jpphilips: Is a private firm/importer a government monopoly, Yes or No? When a private firm has a monopoly on the importation of a particular good, it does not place any restriction on the volume/value of imports it brings in as long as it believes there is adequate demand since it's main aim is to make profit. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 10:32pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
XKZ: Yes or No you were asked, when I need your reasons I will ask |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by jpphilips(m): 10:36pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
mpowa: I appreciate cretins like chigold101, they make me appreciate how far I have gone in life. |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by ocelot2006(m): 10:44pm On Jan 26, 2015 |
LRNZH: Ameachi, Akume, August Obe, Kwankwaso, Sarah technocrats?!!! LMAO ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() But come oh, since when did Barth Nnaji, Donald Duke, Emma Anyaoku, and Emir Sanusi join APC?!! You see why we call you clowns LIARS and JOKERS high on expired Alomo Bitters? If there's anyone that's clueless, it's you APC clowns. But hey, keep wanking off in lala land. "Technocrats" indeed ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by bobbybash(m): 1:13am On Jan 27, 2015 |
Spot on Soludo, you have raised pretty good points. I hope Nigerians will abandon being partisan and basically look at the issues raised. Definitely with the current economic out look it will be a difficult term for whoever of is that would be in the helm of affairs in the next dispensation we only hope that this time the lessons of economic diversification would have been learnt and never again will Nigeria be caught up in mono economy. Check out #PreelectionPoll #GEJvsGMB on www.oppoll.com.ng 1 Like
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Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Eluwilussit(m): 1:25am On Jan 27, 2015 |
V Boss13: True talk. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Eluwilussit(m): 1:40am On Jan 27, 2015 |
BlackTechnology: That's so correct. How can a man with flip-flops promise you a pair of Gucci shoes? Where on earth did Buhari hide in the last 29 yrs, without improving himself at any rate, only to come out now to rule us? Per adventure Buhari wins, then Nigeria has gone to the dogs. I can't believe that I am alive and this is happening. God, how did we get here? We still dey talk of Jona, now Buhari. Whatever happened to the likes of Fashola, Duke, tambuwal, N'Abba, Rochas? I can't believe it has come to this. There was indeed, a country. Both men would have been very happy to be the pantry boys to the likes of Zik, Awo, Balewa, Ahmadu Bello and Enahoro. Shame |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Ologunjude(m): 2:01am On Jan 27, 2015 |
Very sound still Professor Soludo. God bless you for this piece. Propaganda every where u look. God help us. 1 Like |
Re: Buhari Vs Jonathan: Beyond The Election By Charles Soludo by Ologunjude(m): 2:10am On Jan 27, 2015 |
Obasanjor book " my watch" if allowed into the market would have ended Jonathan plan to retain port by all means. This Soludo is going to do the same thing. Open secret of lack of performance and failure of this government. |
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