Obiagelli:
I want a debate on agriculture transformation, i want to burst the many lies of adesina.

That man mouth sweet like
Theee man is lie pass the devil himself.
Ayamlaykorn

barcanista:

Please can u copy me on any thread on debate on either GMB OR GEJ.
I am highly interested. thanks.

Obiagelli:
I want a debate on agriculture transformation, i want to burst the many lies of adesina.

dem go gree accept?

Bobandgreat:
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Where is it?

With the military.
My personal belief is that some top PDP officials know the whereabouts of the certificates via the military .
Moreover, as a GENERAL and A PUBLIC OFFICER for over ten years, he does not need to show a certificate .

I support a debate to further clarify why Buhari should concentrate on his cattle rearing and leave Nigeria alone.

fresh15:
I support a debate to further clarify why Buhari should concentrate on his cattle rearing and leave Nigeria alone.

I support a debate to show Nigerians that Jonathan is better off as a fisherman in the creeks of Otuoke.

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bokohalal:

With the military.
My personal belief is that some top PDP officials know the whereabouts of the certificates via the military .
Moreover, as a GENERAL and A PUBLIC OFFICER for over ten years, he does not need to show a certificate .

Where is your own certificate? Is it with PDP? Ask IBB for his own, ask Abdusalami Abubakar for his own, ask Gowon for his own, ask Ihejirika for his own, and they will provide it. He is vying for the top most job and you are saying he doesn't need to conform with the rules. Brother please!

This won't make the front page? Come on! How many years will it take till we know that a debate like this can help shape our political perspectives and choice

barcanista:
Due to the rising number of deceptive and hypocritical threads by the "Transformers" (PDP) on nairaland with the aim of maligning the personality, character, integrity and deeds of General Muhammadu Buhari GCFR, I Barcanista openly challenge promoters of such threads to a public debate for Nairalanders to judge whether or not General Muhammadu Buhari was a Patriot, a fine Gentleman, an astute administrator, a statesman or he is what the "Transformers" (PDP) paint him to be.

The Debate shall bother on:
1. 2011 Post-Election Violence
2. His Political Statements Since 2001
3. Boko Haram Insurgency
4. His Anti-Corruption Crusade and War Against Indiscipline
5. His Performance as Head of State, Minister, NNPC Chairman and PTF Chairman
6. His Educational and Professional Qualifications aka Certificate Issue
7. His Democratic tendencies
8. His eligibility to stand for 2015 election.... And any other related subject.

I hope this open challenge will be welcomed by the pro-Jonathan faction on nairaland. I assure Nairalanders and guests that I will maintain civility, and will neither use derogatory terms against fellow debaters nor officers of the Jonathan's government.

In anticipation, I await acceptance from the "Transformers" (PDP).


cc:
"Transformers" (PDP): Idumose Phockphockman Ceo4eva Seun Ngwakwe Firefire Mogidi Collynzo9 Constomized13 Sincere9gerian Jmaine Tomakint Toharqa Anonimi Stebell and others (Sorry I can't type every moniker)

Progressives: laykorn NgeneUkwenu Caseless Omenka CaptainAmerica1 Rawani Donphilopus TundeAjani Alphaoscar jomoh egift caseless cleverly arewafederation OrlandoOwoh keneking Obiagelli Berem Jarus and others (Sorry I can't type every moniker)

Nonsense. Now u want debate abi? Why APC spokeman no show up on satuday for their debate? Cowards.
GERJ till 2019

barcanista:
Due to the rising number of deceptive and hypocritical threads by the "Transformers" (PDP) on nairaland with the aim of maligning the personality, character, integrity and deeds of General Muhammadu Buhari GCFR, I Barcanista openly challenge promoters of such threads to a public debate for Nairalanders to judge whether or not General Muhammadu Buhari was a Patriot, a fine Gentleman, an astute administrator, a statesman or he is what the "Transformers" (PDP) paint him to be.

The Debate shall bother on:
1. 2011 Post-Election Violence
2. His Political Statements Since 2001
3. Boko Haram Insurgency
4. His Anti-Corruption Crusade and War Against Indiscipline
5. His Performance as Head of State, Minister, NNPC Chairman and PTF Chairman
6. His Educational and Professional Qualifications aka Certificate Issue
7. His Democratic tendencies
8. His eligibility to stand for 2015 election.... And any other related subject.

I hope this open challenge will be welcomed by the pro-Jonathan faction on nairaland. I assure Nairalanders and guests that I will maintain civility, and will neither use derogatory terms against fellow debaters nor officers of the Jonathan's government.

In anticipation, I await acceptance from the "Transformers" (PDP).


cc:
"Transformers" (PDP): Idumose Phockphockman Ceo4eva Seun Ngwakwe Firefire Mogidi Collynzo9 Constomized13 Sincere9gerian Jmaine Tomakint Toharqa Anonimi Stebell and others (Sorry I can't type every moniker)

Progressives: laykorn NgeneUkwenu Caseless Omenka CaptainAmerica1 Rawani Donphilopus TundeAjani Alphaoscar jomoh egift caseless cleverly arewafederation OrlandoOwoh keneking Obiagelli Berem Jarus and others (Sorry I can't type every moniker)

Nonsense. Now u want debate abi? Why APC spokesman no show up on Saturday for their debate? Cowards.
GEJ till 2019

You are paid to support the man. There's no way that you can engage in any kind of honest debate.

Shocking Atrocities Committed By APC’s
Presidential Candidate General Muhammadu
Buhari
1. Buhari was in full support of all the
atrocities of
Sani Abacha against the Nigerian people. There
is
no single record of his criticism of Sani
Abacha during those dark days when Nigeria
was
on precipice. It shows that he is a patriot of
convenience. In fact On the 10th anniversary
of
Abacha’s demise, Buhari said that Abacha stole
nothing from Nigeria! Despite millions of
Dollars
recovered from banks around the world and
the
Abacha family signing a formal agreement to
return
over $1 billion dollars, Buhari still said that,
Abacha’s stealing remains an unproved
allegation!!!! Why? Because Abacha set Buhari
up
like an emperor and let him use oil money
from
theNiger Delta to develop the North without
supervision or questions.
2. He supervised the smuggling of 53 suitcases
filled with cash through the MMA against the
protest of General Tunde Idiagbon and
ironically,Abubakar Atiku, the then Director
General
of Customs, who later became the Vice
President
and a compromised politician himself. This
smuggling of the suit cases were supervised by
buharis ADC, Col. Mustapha Jokolo
3. That obnoxious Decree 4 by buhari, against
which truth was no defence, was used to jail
journalists, an attempt to shut-up the media as
a
whole. That tyrannical legislation of buhari
shows
the essence of his intolerance…..He jailed
Ndukar
Irabor and Tunde Thompson of “The Guardian”
on
stories that were factually true. He again told
Nigerian journalists then that, it did not
matter
whether the story reported was true or not, if
his
regime did not like it, the writer would go to
jail.
facts of recent history.
4. Mrs. Vera Ifudu, who was an NTA reporter,
was
sacked on Buhari’s orders as military ruler, for
reporting what Dr. Olusola Saraki had told her
in
an interview about how the missing, $2.8
Billion
money, while buhari was petroleum minister,
was
traced to Buhari’s account at Midland Bank,
London branch. In view of this, OBJ scraped
PTF
over Buhari’s misappropriation. Vera
eventually
won her case in court after providing evidence,
and
was financially compensated.
5. He convinced all the northern political
leaders
against allowing the National Identity card
program
because according to him, this would unravel
the
myth of Northern population majority.
6. He has never been able to account to
Nigerians
what he did with the 20 billion Naira of the
Petroleum Trust Fund of which he was the
chairman under Sani Abacha. Also, He has not
been able to point to any project he
prosecuted
outside Northern Nigeria with the trust fund.
7. Buhari, as part of his tribalistic practices,
placed
President Shagari under house arrest inside a
palatia mansion in Ikoyi, while he locked up
Shagari’s Vice, Alex Ekwueme in Kirikiri
Prison.Shagari is Hausa/Fulani like him while
Alex
Ekwueme is an Igboman.
8. Ikemba Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu,
another Igboman who had just returned from
13
years of exile in 1982, following a pardon by
then
president, Shehu Shangri, was as well locked
up in
Kiri-Kiri Prison by Buhari. Till this day, we are
not
told what Ojukwu’s offence was.
9. Buhari discriminated against persons from
other
ethnic groups/faiths; and as PTF chairman, he
employed an overwhelming numberof Fulani/
Hausa/Moslem people at the detriment of
other
groups and concentrated PTF projects in
theNorth.
If in doubt, read El Rufai’s book.
10. Buhari snubbed the same Nigerians he now
wants their votes by refusing to appear before
Justice Oputa “Truth and Reconciliation Panel.”
Despite the fact that Buhari knew how
important
reconciliation is to the stability of democracy,
buhari has never apologised at anytime.
11. Buhari after locking up Sam Mbakwe, who
was
governor of Imo State, from October 1, 1979
to Dec
31, 1983 in jail, he went for one of Mbakwe’s
wives. He established himself for what he was/
is
letting Mbakwe receive in jail, news of the
death of
another of Mbakwe’s two wives.
12. He is an Islamic fundamentalist, who told
his
northern followers never to vote for anyone
who
was not a muslim and he is a coup plotter who
overthrow a civilian government.
13. He is an oligarch who does not believe in
equality before the law. The way he jailed
Lateef
Jakande, Jim Nwobodo, Pa Adekunle Ajasin,
Chief
Ayo Ojewumi on cases that had no foundation
and
allowed Awwal Ibrahim, the then Niger State
governor, who was arrested in Heath row
Airport in
London with 14 million (Pounds sterling) and
several millions of Naira and dollars to be
under
house arrest is my evidence. (Ayo Ojewumi
became blind as a result of his imprisonment
over
false charges and died shortly after)
14. Against all canons of legal decency, Buhari
executed Lawal Ojuolape (30),
BernardOgedengbe
(29) and Bartholomew Owoh (26). To put it
quite
plainly, one of those three –Ogedengbe – was
executed for a crime that did not carry a
capital
forfeit at the time it was committed.
15. After the military government of Major-
General
Muhammadu Buhari took power, Prof Ambrose
Ali,
one time governor of (Bendel) state, who had
already retired from politics, was arrested and
sentenced to 100 years in prison by buhari’s
military tribunal over trumped up charges. He
was
finally freed when the Esama of Benin, Chief
Gabriel Igbinedion, paid a fine to
buhari’governme
nt. Ambrose Ali died shortly after his release.
16. Gen Buhari allowed Shehu Kangiwa, the
then
Sokoto State Governor from 1979-1981, who
conducted and supervised the famous
“Bakolori
Massacre” of poor peasant farmers, whose
lands
were seized without compensation, to remain
under a very comfortable house arrest, without
punishment or proper imprisonment.
17. In 2011 Buhari’s CPC loyalists massacred
and
lynched Nigerian youth corpers after the last
election. A refined politician is expected to
tender
an apology on behalf of the ignorant loyalists,
buhari refused to apologise. He said, the mob
were
angry because they felt the election was
rigged. Is
that sufficient to take the life of another?
18. Buhari pretended to have forgotten, his
CPC
party, rigged the election by registering under
aged
voters. He who comes to equity must come
with
clean hands.
19. On the 4th of September, 1984, minutes
before
leaving Nigeria for an extensive tour of the US,
Fela
Anikulapo Kuti was arrested at the airport of
Lagos
on orders of Buhari and was jailed for 5 years,
on
bogus charges under emergency law initiated
by
dictator buhari, which prompted the
sentencing
judge to later confess that, he was ordered to
do
so and apologized to Fela. Get Fela’s (Army
Arrangement) song for more expose’.
20. Mallam El-rufai who now sings buhari’s
praise
famously said on Oct, 5th 2010 that ” General
Buhari is perpetually unelectable because his
record as military head of state and
afterwards, is
a warning that many nigerians in the past have
wisely heeded. His insensitivity to Nigeria’s
diversity and his parochial focus are already
well-
known.” El-Rufai again said: “I was 25 years old
when Buhari was Head of State and now am
50+
and he still wants to be President, i don’t
understand that, i don’t understand that at all
and
I call on young people of Nigeria to take their
future into their hands and ensure in the next
election, they vote for a new generation of
leaders.
A leopard can never, ever change it’s spots.
Nigerians, do not be deceived,vote wisely.
Facts
and not fiction. Nigerians, behold the real
buhari

Seun:
You are paid to support the man. There's no way that you can engage in any kind of honest debate.

He didn't mention anybody's name o

barcanista:
I listed 8 key points that bothers on everything about Muhammadu Buhari. He of course can decide to acknowledge my points, rebut them and/or explore other areas. On Jonathan I expect him to bring his points, but I will rebut them and also explore other areas. I believe the coordinators are in the right place to handle all these troubles

We're not debating yet. You haven't accepted and if that's the best you can do spare yourself.

This reminds me of one gentleman.


Like master like slaves. Satanists will avoid thread like plague.

candidbabe:

Shocking Atrocities Committed By APC’s
Presidential Candidate General Muhammadu
Buhari
1. Buhari was in full support of all the
atrocities of
Sani Abacha against the Nigerian people. There
is
no single record of his criticism of Sani
Abacha during those dark days when Nigeria
was
on precipice. It shows that he is a patriot of
convenience. In fact On the 10th anniversary
of
Abacha’s demise, Buhari said that Abacha stole
nothing from Nigeria! Despite millions of
Dollars
recovered from banks around the world and
the
Abacha family signing a formal agreement to
return
over $1 billion dollars, Buhari still said that,
Abacha’s stealing remains an unproved
allegation!!!! Why? Because Abacha set Buhari
up
like an emperor and let him use oil money
from
theNiger Delta to develop the North without
supervision or questions.
2. He supervised the smuggling of 53 suitcases
filled with cash through the MMA against the
protest of General Tunde Idiagbon and
ironically,Abubakar Atiku, the then Director
General
of Customs, who later became the Vice
President
and a compromised politician himself. This
smuggling of the suit cases were supervised by
buharis ADC, Col. Mustapha Jokolo
3. That obnoxious Decree 4 by buhari, against
which truth was no defence, was used to jail
journalists, an attempt to shut-up the media as
a
whole. That tyrannical legislation of buhari
shows
the essence of his intolerance…..He jailed
Ndukar
Irabor and Tunde Thompson of “The Guardian”
on
stories that were factually true. He again told
Nigerian journalists then that, it did not
matter
whether the story reported was true or not, if
his
regime did not like it, the writer would go to
jail.
facts of recent history.
4. Mrs. Vera Ifudu, who was an NTA reporter,
was
sacked on Buhari’s orders as military ruler, for
reporting what Dr. Olusola Saraki had told her
in
an interview about how the missing, $2.8
Billion
money, while buhari was petroleum minister,
was
traced to Buhari’s account at Midland Bank,
London branch. In view of this, OBJ scraped
PTF
over Buhari’s misappropriation. Vera
eventually
won her case in court after providing evidence,
and
was financially compensated.
5. He convinced all the northern political
leaders
against allowing the National Identity card
program
because according to him, this would unravel
the
myth of Northern population majority.
6. He has never been able to account to
Nigerians
what he did with the 20 billion Naira of the
Petroleum Trust Fund of which he was the
chairman under Sani Abacha. Also, He has not
been able to point to any project he
prosecuted
outside Northern Nigeria with the trust fund.
7. Buhari, as part of his tribalistic practices,
placed
President Shagari under house arrest inside a
palatia mansion in Ikoyi, while he locked up
Shagari’s Vice, Alex Ekwueme in Kirikiri
Prison.Shagari is Hausa/Fulani like him while
Alex
Ekwueme is an Igboman.
8. Ikemba Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu,
another Igboman who had just returned from
13
years of exile in 1982, following a pardon by
then
president, Shehu Shangri, was as well locked
up in
Kiri-Kiri Prison by Buhari. Till this day, we are
not
told what Ojukwu’s offence was.
9. Buhari discriminated against persons from
other
ethnic groups/faiths; and as PTF chairman, he
employed an overwhelming numberof Fulani/
Hausa/Moslem people at the detriment of
other
groups and concentrated PTF projects in
theNorth.
If in doubt, read El Rufai’s book.
10. Buhari snubbed the same Nigerians he now
wants their votes by refusing to appear before
Justice Oputa “Truth and Reconciliation Panel.”
Despite the fact that Buhari knew how
important
reconciliation is to the stability of democracy,
buhari has never apologised at anytime.
11. Buhari after locking up Sam Mbakwe, who
was
governor of Imo State, from October 1, 1979
to Dec
31, 1983 in jail, he went for one of Mbakwe’s
wives. He established himself for what he was/
is
letting Mbakwe receive in jail, news of the
death of
another of Mbakwe’s two wives.
12. He is an Islamic fundamentalist, who told
his
northern followers never to vote for anyone
who
was not a muslim and he is a coup plotter who
overthrow a civilian government.
13. He is an oligarch who does not believe in
equality before the law. The way he jailed
Lateef
Jakande, Jim Nwobodo, Pa Adekunle Ajasin,
Chief
Ayo Ojewumi on cases that had no foundation
and
allowed Awwal Ibrahim, the then Niger State
governor, who was arrested in Heath row
Airport in
London with 14 million (Pounds sterling) and
several millions of Naira and dollars to be
under
house arrest is my evidence. (Ayo Ojewumi
became blind as a result of his imprisonment
over
false charges and died shortly after)
14. Against all canons of legal decency, Buhari
executed Lawal Ojuolape (30),
BernardOgedengbe
(29) and Bartholomew Owoh (26). To put it
quite
plainly, one of those three –Ogedengbe – was
executed for a crime that did not carry a
capital
forfeit at the time it was committed.
15. After the military government of Major-
General
Muhammadu Buhari took power, Prof Ambrose
Ali,
one time governor of (Bendel) state, who had
already retired from politics, was arrested and
sentenced to 100 years in prison by buhari’s
military tribunal over trumped up charges. He
was
finally freed when the Esama of Benin, Chief
Gabriel Igbinedion, paid a fine to
buhari’governme
nt. Ambrose Ali died shortly after his release.
16. Gen Buhari allowed Shehu Kangiwa, the
then
Sokoto State Governor from 1979-1981, who
conducted and supervised the famous
“Bakolori
Massacre” of poor peasant farmers, whose
lands
were seized without compensation, to remain
under a very comfortable house arrest, without
punishment or proper imprisonment.
17. In 2011 Buhari’s CPC loyalists massacred
and
lynched Nigerian youth corpers after the last
election. A refined politician is expected to
tender
an apology on behalf of the ignorant loyalists,
buhari refused to apologise. He said, the mob
were
angry because they felt the election was
rigged. Is
that sufficient to take the life of another?
18. Buhari pretended to have forgotten, his
CPC
party, rigged the election by registering under
aged
voters. He who comes to equity must come
with
clean hands.
19. On the 4th of September, 1984, minutes
before
leaving Nigeria for an extensive tour of the US,
Fela
Anikulapo Kuti was arrested at the airport of
Lagos
on orders of Buhari and was jailed for 5 years,
on
bogus charges under emergency law initiated
by
dictator buhari, which prompted the
sentencing
judge to later confess that, he was ordered to
do
so and apologized to Fela. Get Fela’s (Army
Arrangement) song for more expose’.
20. Mallam El-rufai who now sings buhari’s
praise
famously said on Oct, 5th 2010 that ” General
Buhari is perpetually unelectable because his
record as military head of state and
afterwards, is
a warning that many nigerians in the past have
wisely heeded. His insensitivity to Nigeria’s
diversity and his parochial focus are already
well-
known.” El-Rufai again said: “I was 25 years old
when Buhari was Head of State and now am
50+
and he still wants to be President, i don’t
understand that, i don’t understand that at all
and
I call on young people of Nigeria to take their
future into their hands and ensure in the next
election, they vote for a new generation of
leaders.
A leopard can never, ever change it’s spots.
Nigerians, do not be deceived,vote wisely.
Facts
and not fiction. Nigerians, behold the real
buhari

You people should stop this madness and focus on the issue @ hand. How many military regimes have we had without almost all these autocratic tendencies? Rather than address the man that looks innocent but full of deceit, evil, and gross atrocities, you keep blurtting out this craps.

Agreed, he had his past but I will rather vote a known leopard that will serve my needs than supposed harmless snail that stings.

Dabate? Do you guys think you can win in a debate?

I maybe irrational somethings but when it comes to discussions requiring articulation, points and facts, I think APCists have barely nothing to say.

Engage us in this debate at your peril.

Seun:
You are paid to support the man. There's no way that you can engage in any kind of honest debate.

Excuse me gentleman, this allegation is inappropriate, vague, malicious and unacceptable. Anyway, whether I'm paid or not is not the issue here. Can you guys let us have something to debate on?

op I am part of the transformers and would like to debate on the "ISSUES"

nellyjohn:

Nonsense. Now u want debate abi? Why APC spokesman no show up on Saturday for their debate? Cowards.
GEJ till 2019

I'm not lai Muhammed.

kakatozo:
op I am part of the transformers and would like to debate on the "ISSUES"

Thank you!!
We will need volunteers to help formulate shedule and the rules of this debate.

Cc Obinoscopy hidentity Afam4eva Jaybee3

Thanks

barcanista:
Thanky ou!!
We will need volunteers to help formulate shedule and the rules of this debate.

Cc Obinoscopy hidentity Afam4eva Jaybee3

Thanks

I will have to decline bro as i'm preoccupied with the ernomous task of getting DJ back to his feet

jaybee3:

I will have to decline bro as i'm preoccupied with the ernomous task of getting DJ back to his feet

No problem. Actually the joke of a guy that "accepted" the challenge was trolling and unserious.

barcanista:
No problem. Actually the joke of a guy that "accepted" the challenge was trolling and unserious.

[color=#990000][/color] And who says it was a joke, i thought you were supposed to come up with a plan

Am surprise no Pro GEJ has taken up the challenge...Where are they when u needed them the most?...With all the propaganda petted against BUHARI non of them is willing to come and defend their assertion...Its safe to probably say they know the truth but just more concern with deceive people....You guys shud take up the challenge

kakatozo:
[color=#990000][/color] And who says it was a joke, i thought you were supposed to come up with a plan

Oh, forgive me. Can you create a thread acknowleging your acceptance so as to enable us source for volunteers as debate coordinators. Thanks...

angelsing:
Am surprise no Pro GEJ has taken up the challenge...Where are they when u needed them the most?...With all the propaganda petted against BUHARI non of them is willing to come and defend their assertion...Its safe to probably say they know the truth but just more concern with deceive people....You guys shud take up the challenge

One kakatozo dude just accepted. Though I suspect he's one pdp nairalander who wouldn't want to use his regular moniker.
He registered few moments ago and his first post was to accept the challenge. Nevertheless, I have told him to create a thread to accept the challenge.

What is happening here?

Let's debate..

Buhari promised Igbos 1 million coal jobs. How does he intend to achieve that?

barcanista:
One kakatozo dude just accepted. Though I suspect he's one pdp nairalander who wouldn't want to use his regular moniker.
He registered few moments ago and his first post was to accept the challenge. Nevertheless, I have told him to create a thread to accept the challenge.

Yeah I saw when he accepted but he has not engage u in any conversation to prove he is serious...Will be watching keenly though