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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:34am On Jan 29, 2015
Henry120:


Actually sir, it is 13 years, not 11 years. Please don't make this mistake again.


Another failure, Kobani!!.

After over 1500 air strikes on the tiny town on the border with turkey, there are still ISIS fighters in the city engaging the YPGg, whether it is outskirts or not, it doesn't matter.

One would have expected the all powerful and stupendous americans to have completely obliterated the enemy a long time ago........ No, No............ 5 months on, they are still fighting in a small town.

Someone doesnt know that ISIS have been pushed out of Kobani

Lol
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:35am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


The NAF CH-3 armed drone costs over $1 million and has ISTAR camera/thermal imager/FLIR for target selection before launching guided missile and guided bombs with precision to hit verified and identified target, careful use will not harm civilians.

Nigerian military is the first in Africa to fight war with missile armed drones, we have the most modern military in sub Saharan Africa....JF-17 Thunder jets and Russian jets are also coming this year o !

NAF rules Africa !
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Again, who says its your drone?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:36am On Jan 29, 2015
Patchesagain:

Again, who says its your drone?
Henry120:


For what it's worth, you weren't missed.

Denel owns drones doesn't equate to the SANDF fielding them, or been able to afford them.

In the Ukraine, their Defence manufacturers export state of the art IFV, Tanks, LAV's, while Ukrainian troops ride in pick-up trucks and "back yard/amateur welded buses".

Do you know why this happens?........... it is because, just like the SANDF, the Ukrainian government is broke, and cannot afford to properly equip the Ukrainian military.


The Fact a defence company makes something, doesn't equate to your military fielding them.

Denel is not a private defence company

Sandf is not broke, and neither is our government
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:38am On Jan 29, 2015
Henry120:


Your A109's are grounded, all 26 of them. Defenceweb article i pasted a few weeks back proves so.

You have only 1. Again prove posted, i'm not going to repost them because of you.


Did the artical say they were permanently grounded?

Or did it say they were grounded pending their maintenance paperwork being sorted out?

Its a pity you have to resort to manipulation of the facts in your vain attempt to prove a point
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:39am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Citation needed from military or political sources.

Dream on dreamer, your South Africa imported American special forces to fight ordinary Rhino Poachers....where were your old men recces to save you in Kruger park? Save your homeland first before you dream about other countries
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Its pretty pathetic that you keep relying on the same argument after it was debunked so long ago
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:39am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


South Africa does not hide weapons , you photograph and advertise all you have, even the Mokopa missile you don't have is published for public information. Only Nigeria hides weapons, NAF has drones with PGMs and yet was saying that they don't have PGM, now after the truth has leaked out, they admit they have PGM.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/military-deploys-drones-battle-boko-haram/
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There is zero proof to support your allegations
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:40am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


SAN has only ONE frigate alive, the others are dead fish tanks tonguetongue
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Literal trolling
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:41am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


Sea trial video proved it test fired missiles, currently not armed with missiles but proved it can be armed if need for missiles arises. We don't need missiles to arrest pirates. NN has shifted plans to smaller missile armed boats coming from China as stop gap measures
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That video was of a seperate vessel you clown

It was a generic advertisment
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:41am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


The Swiss made the gun manual and it has never killed it's owner or operator in world history, South Africa now manufactured an automatic system and fixed it on the gun, that AMSCOR product is a faulty junk piece and it turned the gun on it's owners, killing and maiming many SANDF soldiers....South African made junk system killed South African soldiers....deal with your bad product tonguetongue

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/9-killed-in-army-horror-1.374838
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Actually you have read all the articles on this. I know that. So you know it failed due to a design defect. In fact a another countries GDF had all so failed, not every mistake leads to losses of live or even damage of property.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:42am On Jan 29, 2015
Henry120:


Let me repeat, you weren't missed. You name was mentioned only in references.

Yes Nigeria has a pact with them. We seen that pact come into in the supply of BTR4E, MI-35, T-72AV and T-84 tank deliveries, despite Ukraine also been involved in ATO.

No, SANDF doesn't and have never spent more than Nigeria, we have consistently said this over the years.

Per person we spend double what you do

And you are at war while we are not

Lol
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:43am On Jan 29, 2015
Henry120:
SANDF Fairy tale defence review in a "nutshell".


There does not appear to be any real urgency regarding the Defence Review and its need to progress through the Parliamentary process enabling at least a start to be made on reversing the downward spiral of the South African military.

The latest example of tardiness can be found in the programme of the Joint Standing Committee on Defence for the first part of the 2015 Parliamentary work year.

The Parliamentary Programme Framework provides for a committee period between January 27 and February 11 for Parliamentary committees, such as defence, to meet and conduct oversight visits.

In essence it boils down to the Framework making time available for the various Parliamentary committees to work.

“It means 10 days, spanning 80 hours, of meetings could have been scheduled for the Joint Standing Committee on Defence to consider aspects of the Defence Review, by agreement the committee’s top priority. Sadly, not a single meeting has been scheduled for the committee period,” said David Maynier, opposition Democratic Alliance (DA) party shadow defence and military veterans minister.
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The Defence Review was completed at the request of then Defence Minister, Lindiwe Sisulu, by Roelf Meyer and his team for tabling in Parliament late in 2012. A change of Minister ensured this did not happen and when current Minister, Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula, eventually tabled the document in Parliament last July, its title was changed to reflect it as the 2014 Defence Review and not the 2012 Defence Review.

Among others, the Review stated the SANDF was “in a critical state of decline, characterised by force imbalance between capabilities; block obsolescence and unaffordability of many of its main operating systems; a disproportionate tooth-to-tail ratio; the inability to meet current standing defence commitments and the lack of critical mobility”.

Taking another excerpt from the Review (“even with an immediate intervention it could take at least five years to arrest the decline and another five to develop a limited and sustainable defence capability”) to illustrate the need to get on with the job as far as turning the SANDF around Maynier points out “there is an element of urgency”.

“Every day wasted talking about the Defence Review, rather the implementing it, accelerates the decline of the SANDF.”

He is not happy about the manner in which the Joint Standing Committee intends to deal with the Review.

“Its current rubberstamp programmes envisage dealing with the 344 page document, based on 435 stakeholder meetings and 76 public submissions at a cost of nearly R11 million to the taxpayer in three meetings. These meetings are set to last 10.5 hours and will take place between February 20 and March 5.”

He has proposed an alternative of 18 meetings including briefings on military preparedness, downsizing and rightsizing, acquisition priorities and affordability of Review proposals.

“In the end it is a disgrace that the SANDF is being held hostage by lazy and disinterested MPs serving on the Joint Standing Committee on Defence,” Maynier said this week.


So its taking time to get through parliament

So what? Where does it say its a fairy tale?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 4:46am On Jan 29, 2015
Wants with Nigerians saying the A109 is grounded. They been flying again for some time. One of them is part of the rescue mission In Mozambique.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:29am On Jan 29, 2015
andrewza:


you stuck them where?


Lol that civilian grade life boat

Must do wonders for the "stealth" vessels radar cross section

Typical example of Nigerians inability to impliment systems properly

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:31am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


The Swiss made the gun manual and it has never killed it's owner or operator in world history, South Africa now manufactured an automatic system and fixed it on the gun, that AMSCOR product is a faulty junk piece and it turned the gun on it's owners, killing and maiming many SANDF soldiers....South African made junk system killed South African soldiers....deal with your bad product tonguetongue

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/9-killed-in-army-horror-1.374838
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Equipment mafunctions all the time

So what

Your government can barley put together an MRAP and you think you can critique us?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:49am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


South Africa does not hide weapons , you photograph and advertise all you have, even the Mokopa missile you don't have is published for public information. Only Nigeria hides weapons, NAF has drones with PGMs and yet was saying that they don't have PGM, now after the truth has leaked out, they admit they have PGM.

http://thenationonlineng.net/new/military-deploys-drones-battle-boko-haram/
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So, what makes Nigeria so special to hide their weapons when SA cannot do the same. You are merely hiding faulty weapons. Bwahahahahahaha…
There are many weapons which we also hide dummy, especially those used. by our special forces.


[size=20]Nigeria has no single PGM, they have been dropping unguided bombs on terrorists ever since the beginning of this war destroying homes of citizens, so please don't mislead us.

It is not yet confirmed that Nigeria had killer drones, they could be deploying harmless drones.[/size]
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:01am On Jan 29, 2015
[size=16] These kids below do not care about bogus killer drones. They hardly fear rag tag Nigerian military. Just yesterday they stroke another village again.


They were even trained how to handle the butt of the rifle better than Nigerian soldiers. Look how firmly they grabbed the butt close to their shoulders and not above it as many Nigerian soldiers do.[/size]

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:07am On Jan 29, 2015
[size=16]It is confirmed that SA former special forces and other highly trained SA soldiers are currently secretly training rag tag Nigerian military in Nigeria. The minister of defence is ordering for their arrest on their return.


@agaugust must just bury his head on the sand to see that our people are training Nigerians[/size]




http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Arrest-SA-mercenaries-on-Boko-Haram-mission-Mapisa-Nqakula-20150128
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:26am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


SAN has only ONE frigate alive, the others are dead fish tanks tonguetongue
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SA has four frigates and Nigeria has none
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:30am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


South Africa is a garbage factory where all kinds of thrash gets manufactured. Your AMSCOR made robot cannon turned SANDF anti-aircraft gun on your own soldiers at home and killed them in training, nobody could control the gun until all its 35mm shells were fired on SANDF soldiers that were operating the gun, thus killing and maiming your own army with your own product at home. See where Chinese are better than you? Your own guns turn against SANDF and spray them with automatic fire , nation of garbage!!!
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Nigeria is a dumping site of weapons. Every nonsense is thrown in your country.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:35am On Jan 29, 2015
agaugust:


[size=16pt]American military predator drone crash in war zone[/size]



No, you live in a village and you don't know even the best drones in American military crashes at random, please light two candles and view the photo of American military predator drone crashed below....mumu grin grin

http://www.socialjutt.com/us-drone-crash-nangarhar/
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[size=20]Nah… You have been dupped!!! The Chinese are now rich out of your money. What an easy catch!!!!

Can you see where it has landed? Bloody scrappy and faulty drone.[/size]

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:52am On Jan 29, 2015
[size=20]Ex South African troops are training Nigerian military.[/size]



http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201501281248.html/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 8:53am On Jan 29, 2015
HELICOPTERS DROP FOOD AND ARMS FOR BOKO HARAM
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http://leadership.ng/news/407049/helicopters-dropping-arms-food-boko-haram-idps
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Residents of baga and munguno have claimed seeing 'big' helicopters dropping arms and food supplies into boko haram camps in borno state of nigeria.the leader of the CJTF also confirmed sighting an helicopter hovering over munguno,"i saw an helicopter hovering over munguno barracks,but it didnt drop a single bomb.later i saw another helicopter come,then four people came down out of it using long black ropes,then the helicopter went away again.",according to him,many of boko haram fighters are foreigners,especially chadian arabs,he also claimed that it was the foreign fighters that engaged troops in munguno barracks.it should be recalled that last year november,a military helicopter containing arms,cash and some foreign personnels,crashed in gombi,borno state,but the military authorities denied any involvement with both the helicopter and its content.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:04am On Jan 29, 2015
EVarn:
HELICOPTERS DROP FOOD AND ARMS FOR BOKO HARAM
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http://leadership.ng/news/407049/helicopters-dropping-arms-food-boko-haram-idps
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Residents of baga and munguno have claimed seeing 'big' helicopters dropping arms and food supplies into boko haram camps in borno state of nigeria.the leader of the CJTF also confirmed sighting an helicopter hovering over munguno,"i saw an helicopter hovering over munguno barracks,but it didnt drop a single bomb.later i saw another helicopter come,then four people came down out of it using long black ropes,then the helicopter went away again.",according to him,many of boko haram fighters are foreigners,especially chadian arabs,he also claimed that it was the foreign fighters that engaged troops in munguno barracks.it should be recalled that last year november,a military helicopter containing arms,cash and some foreign personnels,crashed in gombi,borno state,but the military authorities denied any involvement with both the helicopter and its content.

If true it shows the level of boldness in BH. They don't control the skies. I mean we might joke about naf but they do have alpha jets and hinds. So the fact a chopper is willing to violate the battle field is something.

Of course BH will now have forghin forces. They probably going to get guns and other gear from Libya.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 9:08am On Jan 29, 2015
FINALLY THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.....FORMER SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES ARE TRAINING THE SO CALLED BEST MILITARY POWER IN AFRICA.....WE HAVE BEEN SAYING SO FOR THE LASY 4 YEARS THAT NIGERIA IS NOTHING BUT A GIANT WITH CLAY FEET AND IT HAD TO BE PROVEN BY RAG TAG BOKO HARAM.

SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES ARE THE MOST EXPERIANCE SPECIAL FORCES IN AFRICA....THEY FOUGHT FOR NEARY 30 YEARS IN ANGOLA, THEN FORMED A PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY CALLED EXECUTIVE OUTCOME THAT DEFEATED AND EVENTUALLY KILLED UNITA LEADER IN ANGOLA, FOUGHT AND DEFEATED REBELS IN SIERRA LEONE.

THE EX-RECCES ARE ALSO HELPING TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL FORCES BRIGADE OF THE NIGERIAN ARMY ALONG THE LINES OF THE SOUTH AFRICA....ALSO WITHIN THE GROUP ARE FORMER MEMBERS OF THE POLICE SPECIAL TASK FORCE WHO ARE HELPING TRAIN NIGERIAN POLICE ALONG THE LINES OF SOUTH AFRICA....

CREDIT MUST BE GIVEN TO NAIRA WEB AS ALL THE PHOTOS POSTED OF SOUTH AFRICAN SECURITY FORCES CONVINCE THE NIGERIA MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT TO SEEK HELP TO THE BEST WHO WERE TRIED AND TESTED IN BATTLES NOT CHINESE.

ISRAEL TOOK NIGERIA FOR A RIDE SELLING OUTDATED MILITARY EQUIPMENT.......NIGERIA WANTS TO BUY A LOT OF MILITARY HARDWARE FROM SOUTH AFRICA

@augustus seems to be quite on this matter

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:09am On Jan 29, 2015
BOKO HARAM USED COWS AS SHIELD IN BAGA BATTLE
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http//www.naij.com/374757-escaped-soldiers-disclose-boko-haram-new-tactic.html
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Troops that retreated from baga has alledged that boko haram terrorists have integrated the use of cows as shield into their new isolated assault strategy.apparently,boko haram fighters attacked baga frontier garrison using about 5000 cows that were seized from neighbouring nomadic farmlands as shield.the troops complained that most of their bullets were wasted on the cows that boko haram fighters were hiding behind.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:19am On Jan 29, 2015
EVarn:
BOKO HARAM USED COWS AS SHIELD IN BAGA BATTLE
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http//www.naij.com/374757-escaped-soldiers-disclose-boko-haram-new-tactic.html
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Troops that retreated from baga has alledged that boko haram terrorists have integrated the use of cows as shield into their new isolated assault strategy.apparently,boko haram fighters attacked baga frontier garrison using about 5000 cows that were seized from neighbouring nomadic farmlands as shield.the troops complained that most of their bullets were wasted on the cows that boko haram fighters were hiding behind.

That will only mean Boko Haram has more intelligence and tactical ability over your tag tag Army.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:21am On Jan 29, 2015
EVarn:
BOKO HARAM USED COWS AS SHIELD IN BAGA BATTLE
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http//www.naij.com/374757-escaped-soldiers-disclose-boko-haram-new-tactic.html
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Troops that retreated from baga has alledged that boko haram terrorists have integrated the use of cows as shield into their new isolated assault strategy.apparently,boko haram fighters attacked baga frontier garrison using about 5000 cows that were seized from neighbouring nomadic farmlands as shield.the troops complained that most of their bullets were wasted on the cows that boko haram fighters were hiding behind.

Bwahaha, the efforts of the Nigerian military frustrated by cows. grin

Not even kids. Never thought I'd see the day. grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:21am On Jan 29, 2015
andrewza:
If true it shows the level of boldness in BH. They don't control the skies. I mean we might joke about naf but they do have alpha jets and hinds. So the fact a chopper is willing to violate the battle field is something.
Of course BH will now have forghin forces. They probably going to get guns and other gear from Libya.
boko haram has foreign aid,from chad,mali,libya and all countries under the al quaeda influence.perhaps it even has help from france and the US{though i fail to see what the US will gain by distabilizing the north-east},but the use of helicopters is indeed very disturbing,i personnally know that their is no way a foreign aircraft will penetrate our airspace without our airforce and NAMA knowing about it.so what does this mean?,that the government is sabotaging its own efforts?,that is very preposterous indeed.there could be an underlying battle for control of the lake chad basin oil field.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 9:21am On Jan 29, 2015
Thiza:
FINALLY THE CHICKENS HAVE COME HOME TO ROOST.....FORMER SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES ARE TRAINING THE SO CALLED BEST MILITARY POWER IN AFRICA.....WE HAVE BEEN SAYING SO FOR THE LASY 4 YEARS THAT NIGERIA IS NOTHING BUT A GIANT WITH CLAY FEET AND IT HAD TO BE PROVEN BY RAG TAG BOKO HARAM.

SOUTH AFRICAN SPECIAL FORCES ARE THE MOST EXPERIANCE SPECIAL FORCES IN AFRICA....THEY FOUGHT FOR NEARY 30 YEARS IN ANGOLA, THEN FORMED A PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY CALLED EXECUTIVE OUTCOME THAT DEFEATED AND EVENTUALLY KILLED UNITA LEADER IN ANGOLA, FOUGHT AND DEFEATED REBELS IN SIERRA LEONE.

THE EX-RECCES ARE ALSO HELPING TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL FORCES BRIGADE OF THE NIGERIAN ARMY ALONG THE LINES OF THE SOUTH AFRICA....ALSO WITHIN THE GROUP ARE FORMER MEMBERS OF THE POLICE SPECIAL TASK FORCE WHO ARE HELPING TRAIN NIGERIAN POLICE ALONG THE LINES OF SOUTH AFRICA....

CREDIT MUST BE GIVEN TO NAIRA WEB AS ALL THE PHOTOS POSTED OF SOUTH AFRICAN SECURITY FORCES CONVINCE THE NIGERIA MILITARY ESTABLISHMENT TO SEEK HELP TO THE BEST WHO WERE TRIED AND TESTED IN BATTLES NOT CHINESE.

ISRAEL TOOK NIGERIA FOR A RIDE SELLING OUTDATED MILITARY EQUIPMENT.......NIGERIA WANTS TO BUY A LOT OF MILITARY HARDWARE FROM SOUTH AFRICA

@augustus seems to be quite on this matter

They also fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:28am On Jan 29, 2015
DieVluit:
Bwahaha, the efforts of the Nigerian military frustrated by cows. grin
Not even kids. Never thought I'd see the day. grin grin grin
it is indeed a very innovative strategy,infact,i applaud boko haram's chief strategist for thinking up such a simple,yet highly effective assault strategy.however,the NA will easily strafe boko haram into the afterlife through aerial bombardment.that strategy may have worked once,but it wont work again.it would only be a shocking waste of tasty beef.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:29am On Jan 29, 2015
EVarn:
boko haram has foreign aid,from chad,mali,libya and all countries under the al quaeda influence.perhaps it even has help from france and the US{though i fail to see what the US will gain by distabilizing the north-east},but the use of helicopters is indeed very disturbing,i personnally know that their is no way a foreign aircraft will penetrate our airspace without our airforce and NAMA knowing about it.so what does this mean?,that the government is sabotaging its own efforts?,that is very preposterous indeed.there could be an underlying battle for control of the lake chad basin oil field.

Perhaps it also has help from aliens coming from the constellation of Andromeda.

Hell, I am sure upon closer inspection, we'd find tooth fairies and little sprites in the mix.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 9:30am On Jan 29, 2015
EVarn:
it is indeed a very innovative strategy,infact,i applaud boko haram's chief strategist for thinking up such a simple,yet highly effective assault strategy.however,the NA will easily strafe boko haram into the afterlife through aerial bombardment.that strategy may have worked once,but it wont work again.it would only be a shocking waste of tasty beef.

I give up on the Nigerian military. Defeated by cows of all things. SMH

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