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Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by torchwave: 1:39pm On Jan 28, 2015
Weah96:


See this other featherweight. You are the one doing the lying. Did God talk to you, or did you merely read a fcking book?
You can call me what you wish but the unfading truth in the Bible can never be diluted by wrong interpretation.

Whether you believe hell is a literal place or a metaphor for present suffering or just a symbol of the grave does not make it any less terrible than it really is. Hell exists and you will do well to avoid any path that leads to it.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Weah96: 1:53pm On Jan 28, 2015
torchwave:
You can call me what you wish but the unfading truth in the Bible can never be diluted by wrong interpretation.

Whether you believe hell is a literal place or a metaphor for present suffering or just a symbol of the grave does not make it any less terrible than it really is. Hell exists and you will do well to avoid any path that leads to it.

You say it does, I say it doesn't. Let's leave it at that. I have more respect for a soiled piece of toilet paper than I do for that bible. The same bible that was once brandished for centuries as a defense of African slavery. I have decided not to insult my ancestors.

Insulting ones ancestors brings bad luck. Just look around Africa, especially the most religious black countries, and see what I'm talking about. Bad luck is aplenty because people have decided to insult their own ancestors while simultaneously glorifying the ancestors of pale people.

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Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by torchwave: 2:49pm On Jan 28, 2015
Hmmm. You may choose not to believe it but it is more important that you've heard about it.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Weah96: 3:37pm On Jan 28, 2015
torchwave:
Hmmm. You may choose not to believe it but it is more important that you've heard about it.

Heard about it as a child, rejected it as an adult. This is not new information. Btw, those who claim to believe in hell fire and still go about disobeying the deities who designed the everlasting flaming embers, don't really believe in it either. They're simply merging into the herd, like drunk, disoriented sheep.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by gatiano(m): 3:38pm On Jan 28, 2015
You sound like one of those who would have crucified Jesus because he said He was GOD, like those who were shouting "crucify him, crucify him", yet you claim to love Him. You are an hypocrite, all the way from this screen, it is so clear that you are an hypocrite, change for GOD can't be fooled. Like i said, all will go to hell to be washed or cleaned of the sin they commited and the horrors they've experienced. Hypocrites are one of the millions that will spend almost like 300 years to final death in hell, because they will keep saying they believe, while deep in their heart, they do not. I bet you think that donkey spoke back to her tormentor, and A snake spoke and used a hand to give an apple to Eve, or that hell is deep in the ground.
Let me share to you about another kind of hell that most christians will go, in actual fact, this one is literally a place. It is about the rapture, where do you think, people would be raptured to, when the Bible clearly states that the meek shall inherit the earth?

torchwave:
Lies! Lies!! Lies!!! blind and blatant heresy! Keep deceiving and being deceived!

Hell is a literal place of punishment. Read the story of Lazarus and the rich man and many of Christ's teachings about hell. Read the book of Revelations. Do you think God is a man that He should lie? Once in hell, forever in hell! Gospel truth.

The wise will do whatever it takes to avoid it.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by torchwave: 5:19pm On Jan 28, 2015
gatiano:
You sound like one of those who would have crucified Jesus because he said He was GOD, like those who were shouting "crucify him, crucify him", yet you claim to love Him. You are an hypocrite, all the way from this screen, it is so clear that you are an hypocrite, change for GOD can't be fooled. Like i said, all will go to hell to be washed or cleaned of the sin they commited and the horrors they've experienced. Hypocrites are one of the millions that will spend almost like 300 years to final death in hell, because they will keep saying they believe, while deep in their heart, they do not. I bet you think that donkey spoke back to her tormentor, and A snake spoke and used a hand to give an apple to Eve, or that hell is deep in the ground.
Let me share to you about another kind of hell that most christians will go, in actual fact, this one is literally a place. It is about the rapture, where do you think, people would be raptured to, when the Bible clearly states that the meek shall inherit the earth?

No, I sound like someone who is trying to signal a clueless bloke to keep him from blindly falling over a steep cliff along with others. Look down, you will see the shattered bones of thousands who were blindly led to their untimely demise by heresy. You walk aimlessly into the common grave of preachers of heresy. My voice is not the sound of condemnation but an alarm of warning.

You see the bolded? Having made my point I rest my case.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by torchwave: 5:22pm On Jan 28, 2015
Weah96:


Heard about it as a child, rejected it as an adult. This is not new information. Btw, those who claim to believe in hell fire and still go about disobeying the deities who designed the everlasting flaming embers, don't really believe in it either. They're simply merging into the herd, like drunk, disoriented sheep.
All I can say to you is time will tell.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by gatiano(m): 5:38pm On Jan 28, 2015
Like always, The Bible believers have a magnificent way of dodging questions. However, I am always down for learning.
so why will the bible contradict itself? in one place, it said, the meek shall inherit the earth, and in other place it talked about rapture. which am i to believe? Who is Paul?
Most importantly, Who is GOD? who is the devil/satan?
did the donkey really speak? and when Jesus asked his disciples to go bring the donkey that was hold down, and the disciples were reluntant, Jesus told his disciples to tell the holders that The Lord have need of the donkey. what is so special about this donkey?
Who is the Lamb? and what is the lamb's (animal) characters?
what is the relationship between samson's strength and his hair? I think they called him a ruler, but he only appeared as though he is a fighter.
and there are a lot more. start teaching and save some souls.

torchwave:
No, I sound like someone who is trying to signal a clueless bloke to keep him from blindly falling over a steep cliff along with others. Look down, you will see the shattered bones of thousands who were blindly led to their untimely demise by heresy. You walk aimlessly into the common grave of preachers of heresy. My voice is not the sound of condemnation but an alarm of warning.

You see the bolded? Having made my point I rest my case.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Mattpopson101: 6:09pm On Jan 28, 2015
Hell bawo, wetin concern me. If Hell like make e exist.. Live your present life to the fullest #shikena
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by watchman111: 2:49am On Jan 29, 2015
shaking my head..
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by torchwave: 8:12am On Jan 29, 2015
gatiano:
Like always, The Bible believers have a magnificent way of dodging questions. However, I am always down for learning.
so why will the bible contradict itself? in one place, it said, the meek shall inherit the earth, and in other place it talked about rapture. which am i to believe?
When the Bible said the meek shall inherit the earth, it was not talking about this present earth that is reserved for fire and destruction. It was talking about the new earth, the new Jerusalem. Concerning the rapture, unless your Bible says something contrary, those who are raptured when Christ returns will be taken to heaven, not hell.

Who is Paul?
Most importantly, Who is GOD? who is the devil/satan?
did the donkey really speak? and when Jesus asked his disciples to go bring the donkey that was hold down, and the disciples were reluntant, Jesus told his disciples to tell the holders that The Lord have need of the donkey. what is so special about this donkey?
Who is the Lamb? and what is the lamb's (animal) characters?
what is the relationship between samson's strength and his hair? I think they called him a ruler, but he only appeared as though he is a fighter.
and there are a lot more. start teaching and save some souls.
these are irrelevant questions and have no bearing on the topic of the thread which asks if hell exists.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by gatiano(m): 1:15pm On Jan 29, 2015
magnificent dodging tactics again there, i seek knowledge but you claimed it irrelevant.
New earth? i do understand new Jerusalem, and making all things new which includes the earth, this earth. How is it another one somewhere? true, there are trillions of earth-like planets in the universe, but yours is here, with proper education, we can visit any of them. What happens to this earth when you all leave because of fear?

7 billion people is too much for the earth or any one planet for that matter, perhaps there is nothing anybody can do, a lot would be raptured away but definitely not by Jesus, not by GOD, not by Yahweh, not by Allah.

torchwave:
When the Bible said the meek shall inherit the earth, it was not talking about this present earth that is reserved for fire and destruction. It was talking about the new earth, the new Jerusalem. Concerning the rapture, unless your Bible says something contrary, those who are raptured when Christ returns will be taken to heaven, not hell.

these are irrelevant questions and have no bearing on the topic of the thread which asks if hell exists.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by MrPresident1: 2:31pm On Jan 29, 2015
gatiano:
Like always, The Bible believers have a magnificent way of dodging questions. However, I am always down for learning.
so why will the bible contradict itself? in one place, it said, the meek shall inherit the earth, and in other place it talked about rapture. which am i to believe? Who is Paul?
Most importantly, Who is GOD? who is the devil/satan?
did the donkey really speak? and when Jesus asked his disciples to go bring the donkey that was hold down, and the disciples were reluntant, Jesus told his disciples to tell the holders that The Lord have need of the donkey. what is so special about this donkey?
Who is the Lamb? and what is the lamb's (animal) characters?
what is the relationship between samson's strength and his hair
? I think they called him a ruler, but he only appeared as though he is a fighter.
and there are a lot more. start teaching and save some souls.

Gatiano, please do you have explanations for the bolded? Please share.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Horus(m): 3:30pm On Jan 29, 2015
Hell is a fabrication. The concept of hell is something that was created in the hearts and minds of the authors of your Bible and Koran. Before you were informed of what and where hell was, it never crossed your mind to even think about it. So, within the pages of your scriptures hell was born. Just as a God could not exist without the devil, heaven could not exist if there wasn’t a hell. So where did hell come from?. It didn’t exist in Adam’s, Noah’s, nor Abraham’s time. It is something that was fabricated so that they could capitalize off of your fear.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by gatiano(m): 6:22pm On Jan 29, 2015
The donkey refers to a people who are in bondage, it could have been in the past or/and now, i really think that it was a prophesy for the present time. When the people in bondage see and hear their LORD, they would recognized HIM, and there is nothing the master can do about it. Thus while the donkey saw GOD/ one of the ELOHEIM, The donkey spoke up, and of course if a slave speaks up to their masters, their masters get the shock of their lives.

The donkey that Jesus ordered for to represent the same people. the people the slave-master won't let be.

Lamb is an animal that is very gentle unlike the sheep, but the lamb is dumb which means uneducated. Jesus of 2000 years ago was very educated to the maximum, professor got nothing on him. This Lamb is a person as is also a people (cornerstone). How did Elijah Muhammad know the actual measurement of the everything in the universe with a grade 4 or 7 knowledge. How did he know that there are people on mars as far back as 1930, that we are about to finding out just now. How did he know about the so called UFOs and their measurements and all they work in 1930?
The Lamb as a people refers to Jesus Christ (which i learnt from you). The ways the cornerstones are beginning to evaluate, talk, getting ready is scaring the hell out of the rulers of this outgoing world. The solutions to this global planet earth problems now lies with the teachers(the cornerstone). GAGUT, the theorem by Prof Oyibo an Igala, Nigerian man, They said he was deluded, only for the whiteman to make interstella movie by his theorem. and so many cornerstones more.

Samson's hair, does not refer to hair but brain. He was a very intelligent and a clever man. he fell by marrying the wrong woman, who blinded him spiritually (just like that king in the lords of the rings, who was paralysed by the evil of saruman). while in Samson was captured, betrayed by his wife. he was able again to see GOD, and think.

please brother, i stand to be corrected.

MrPresident1:


Gatiano, please do you have explanations for the bolded? Please share.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by MrPresident1: 11:18am On Jan 30, 2015
In the light of what I have come to understand by the allegory of the serpent convincing the woman to eat the fruit, I am fully persuaded to believe that in the Bible, all depictions of animals having or exhibiting abilities that are human-only-specific, are just a cover for a deeper, more profound happening or experience.

Psalm 78:2
I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:


Psalm 25:14
The secret of the Lord is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.


Your explanations are scientific, I think you are right.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Nobody: 11:23am On Jan 30, 2015
watchman111:
I know that they are folks on naira land who don't believe in hell. but my question is,what if hell truly exist...mehn,we better thread carefully..

Ain't you in hell already? No light,no good road, no good transportation etc. must you be set on fire to believe hell is a self created reality?

Imagine someone in jail who believes he might end up in an afterlife jail. Once you are dead you are free.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by MrPresident1: 11:45am On Jan 30, 2015
ifeness:


Ain't you in hell already? No light,no good road, no good transportation etc. must you be set on fire to believe hell is a self created reality?

Imagine someone in jail who believes he might end up in an afterlife jail. Once you are dead you are free.

The Negro is in a mental, spiritual hell. He is perceived as dumb and dead and stupid by all other races of people. The Negro is in hell. The Negro is the Israelite of the Bible.

Christ will return to save the Negro.

ps
One of the meanings of 'Negro' is 'dead'
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Nobody: 12:13pm On Jan 30, 2015
MrPresident1:


The Negro is in a mental, spiritual hell. He is perceived as dumb and dead and stupid by all other races of people. The Negro is in hell. The Negro is the Israelite of the Bible.

Christ will return to save the Negro.

ps
One of the meanings of 'Negro' is 'dead'

I do not buy into that belief one bit. I see my black skin as a blessing,a unique quality I have got. Why do black people like to claim Jewish or Israel sentiment? be proud of your ancestors at least! I have nothing to do with the Yahweh monster nor Jesus.

We are all Christs,equals, have earthly experiences.

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Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by MrPresident1: 12:45pm On Jan 30, 2015
ifeness:


I do not buy into that belief one bit. I see my black skin as a blessing,a unique quality I have got. Why do black people like to claim Jewish or Israel sentiment? be proud of your ancestors at least! I have nothing to do with the Yahweh monster nor Jesus.

We are all Christs,equals, have earthly experiences.


YAH is not a monster. And you will not find knowledge until you humble yourself.

I am more proud of my ancestors and the heritage that they have bequeathed unto me than you can ever be, this is why they have privileged me with the dearest knowledge in the universe; the knowledge of THE ONE TRUE GOD.

To be a Negro and to confess atheism is the height of self deceit, ignorance and foolish pride, and it is borne out of the desire to abdicate and be free from all forms of morality. Are the people whom you seek to copy their atheistic lifestyles the epitomes of morality?

We are not all Christs, because it is written that Christ will be the firstfruits from the dead; the living dead. Those of us who understood first before you others are Christs.

1 Corinthians 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Nobody: 12:55pm On Jan 30, 2015
MrPresident1:


YAH is not a monster. And you will not find knowledge until you humble yourself.

I am more proud of my ancestors and the heritage that they have bequeathed unto me than you can ever be, this is why they have privileged me with the dearest knowledge in the universe; the knowledge of THE ONE TRUE GOD.

To be a Negro and to confess atheism is the height of self deceit, ignorance and foolish pride, and it is borne out of the desire to abdicate and be free from all forms of morality. Are the people whom you seek to copy their atheistic lifestyles the epitomes of morality?

We are not all Christs, because it is written that Christ will be the firstfruits from the dead; the living dead. Those of us who understood first before you others are Christs.

1 Corinthians 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
dudem you are beyond redemption
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by watchman111: 5:30pm On Jan 30, 2015
ifeness:


Ain't you in hell already? No light,no good road, no good transportation etc. must you be set on fire to believe hell is a self created reality?

Imagine someone in jail who believes he might end up in an afterlife jail. Once you are dead you are free.
hmmnm...NYWBT
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Nobody: 5:38pm On Jan 30, 2015
MrPresident1:


YAH is not a monster. And you will not find knowledge until you humble yourself.

I am more proud of my ancestors and the heritage that they have bequeathed unto me than you can ever be, this is why they have privileged me with the dearest knowledge in the universe; the knowledge of THE ONE TRUE GOD.

To be a Negro and to confess atheism is the height of self deceit, ignorance and foolish pride, and it is borne out of the desire to abdicate and be free from all forms of morality. Are the people whom you seek to copy their atheistic lifestyles the epitomes of morality?

We are not all Christs, because it is written that Christ will be the firstfruits from the dead; the living dead. Those of us who understood first before you others are Christs.

1 Corinthians 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

what can i say to someone who sheepishly follows the bible ?
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Misogynist2014(m): 8:08pm On Jan 30, 2015
ifeness:


what can i say to someone who sheepishly follows the bible ?
MrPresident1:

YAH is not a monster. And you will not find knowledge until you humble yourself.
I am more proud of my ancestors and the heritage that they have bequeathed unto me than you can ever be, this is why they have privileged me with the dearest knowledge in the universe; the knowledge of THE ONE TRUE GOD.
To be a Negro and to confess atheism is the height of self deceit, ignorance and foolish pride, and it is borne out of the desire to abdicate and be free from all forms of morality. Are the people whom you seek to copy their atheistic lifestyles the epitomes of morality?
We are not all Christs, because it is written that Christ will be the firstfruits from the dead; the living dead. Those of us who understood first before you others are Christs.
1 Corinthians 15:20
But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
ifeness:


what can i say to someone who sheepishly follows the bible ?
YAHWEH is not a monster, it is those that fail to understand that are, in fact we can't really blame them cos sometimes YAHWEH speaks in parables. There is nowhere in the Bible that states that hell is till eternity.

Jesus warned that we should not fear those that can destroy the body but HE that can destroy body and soul in hell. A parable of Jesus about a man planting a vineyard and the enemy coming to sow weed among the good plants, which the man knowing this, suffered not to destroy the weeds lest the good ones be destroyed. The man waited until the vine was ripe for harvest and destroyed the weed in fire. Do you burn weeds forever? Another is the story of Noah's Ark, where God destroyed the people once, whose difference from the pending destruction is fire, are they still being destroyed today in water? They were killed once with eternal effects: they died once and died forever, the same way it is impossible for weed burnt to rise again cos the effect of the Burning had eternal effect.

To nail it on the head, in order to clarify doubt Jude 1:7 called the fire of Sodom eternal fire! Is Sodom burning today? Certainly not. They were burnt once with eternal effects. Though some may point to the Story of Lazarus and the rich man but I want us to know it was only for the purpose of admonition and not for the purpose of telling us what hell is about. The LORD shall destroy evil men and affliction shall not rise second time.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by MrPresident1: 11:35pm On Jan 30, 2015
ifeness:


what can i say to someone who sheepishly follows the bible ?

Dude, you are a dead man. A walking talking android simpleton. Without the true knowledge of the Bible, you will never resurrect. grin
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by Nobody: 12:37am On Jan 31, 2015
MrPresident1:


Dude, you are a dead man. A walking talking android simpleton. Without the true knowledge of the Bible, you will never resurrect. grin

You are nothing but a slave in chains

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Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by johnydon22(m): 8:03am On Jan 31, 2015
If you see the comments of Christians in this thread now you will see that
most of them are scared to the marrow of hell, they worship yahweh cus he
threatened to burn you if you don't... yet he is said to be love and just and
merciful all at the same time...that is like eating your cake and having it but
lets not go into that.
(1)
I want whoever is reading this to ask himself "Is a finite sin worth an infinite
punishment?" in plain language The human life as we all know is fleeting
and passes away very quickly lets say like 100years or a little more of that
at most...ok now assuming you start committing sin from the first day you
were born till the day you die (100yrs later) does this worth eternity of
punishment? is it justice? is this characteristic of love? let us leave any
emotional attachment to any religion we practise aside and answer that
question sincerely.
(2)
Ask urself assuming their is life after death in what extension will you exist,
in this planet earth our extension is the human body, we have form.
eyes, nose, mouth tongue, hands, feet, brain, lungs and all this are possible
because we have flesh then if their is a conscious soul that exists after
death in what state? in what form or extension will it exist since we all know
all the things i mentioned above are all human traits.
(3)
Pains as we know it is as a result of sensory neurons in our skin (flesh)
that sends the data to the brain and then it responds to the stimuli/
stimulus.. ok in this assumed state of existing after death, how would you
feel pain? no skin, no brain? not even shape or form? from whence then
comes the pain?
(4)Assuming you are right and their is heaven and hell, you make heaven
and ur mum makes hell and you are fully aware ur mum is burning for
eternity in hell, is that not a torture of its own? can you live with that for
eternity?
(5)Who exactly was hell created for Humans/demons? cus from what you
christians hype (Those that claim to have gone to hell and back) demons
are the ones torturing humans even more than the flames... it leaves me
with a question "Was this hell created for demons or humans?..." did this
god just create hell after creating humans incase man bleeps up, then gather
some more spirit beings keep em there and use em to torture his so loved
humans?
(6)
For all the people shouting "repent for hell is real" if you do something cus
of a reward or cus u might be punished is that thing really good? or you
just did it for ur own selfish interest.
that means without the promise of heaven or threat of hell most of you here
will be bad.
But goodness is not about that "Goodness is doing what is right because
you know it is right" Be good for goodness sake.
..........
If you are good to others because of the promise of heaven, that shows
how little you think of others
If you are good to others because of the threat of hell that shoes how little
you think of urself.. Be good cus it is good.
(7)
How did you get to know that heaven and hell are real?
(a) A book told you?
(b)someone told you?
(c) Did you perceive them with ur conscious mind
if (a) and (b) is ur answer then is that real knowledge? ..how sure are you
that it is the truth?
if (c) is the case it means you have percieved heaven and hell with your
conscious mind just like you do the earth... we have all percieved this earth
with our conscious mind and we all know earth is real, we cant argue about
that!...But we cant say this for neither heaven or hell cus really none of us
have percieved them with our conscious mind.
After all this my conclusion is Be good for goodness sake; Radiate
boundless love towards everything that is known, the earth and every
creature in it and every human in it regardless of any differences...Then you
will learn the true meaning of goodness (morality)
AM NOT HERE FOR ARGUMENT, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT

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Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by watchman111: 1:26pm On Jan 31, 2015
gatiano:
You sound like one of those who would have crucified Jesus because he said He was GOD, like those who were shouting "crucify him, crucify him", yet you claim to love Him. You are an hypocrite, all the way from this screen, it is so clear that you are an hypocrite, change for GOD can't be fooled. Like i said, all will go to hell to be washed or cleaned of the sin they commited and the horrors they've experienced. Hypocrites are one of the millions that will spend almost like 300 years to final death in hell, because they will keep saying they believe, while deep in their heart, they do not. I bet you think that donkey spoke back to her tormentor, and A snake spoke and used a hand to give an apple to Eve, or that hell is deep in the ground.
Let me share to you about another kind of hell that most christians will go, in actual fact, this one is literally a place. It is about the rapture, where do you think, people would be raptured to, when the Bible clearly states that the meek shall inherit the earth?

if all will go to hell so that their sins will be washed,what did Jesus come to ??
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by watchman111: 1:28pm On Jan 31, 2015
johnydon22:
If you see the comments of Christians in this thread now you will see that
most of them are scared to the marrow of hell, they worship yahweh cus he
threatened to burn you if you don't... yet he is said to be love and just and
merciful all at the same time...that is like eating your cake and having it but
lets not go into that.
(1)
I want whoever is reading this to ask himself "Is a finite sin worth an infinite
punishment?" in plain language The human life as we all know is fleeting
and passes away very quickly lets say like 100years or a little more of that
at most...ok now assuming you start committing sin from the first day you
were born till the day you die (100yrs later) does this worth eternity of
punishment? is it justice? is this characteristic of love? let us leave any
emotional attachment to any religion we practise aside and answer that
question sincerely.
(2)
Ask urself assuming their is life after death in what extension will you exist,
in this planet earth our extension is the human body, we have form.
eyes, nose, mouth tongue, hands, feet, brain, lungs and all this are possible
because we have flesh then if their is a conscious soul that exists after
death in what state? in what form or extension will it exist since we all know
all the things i mentioned above are all human traits.
(3)
Pains as we know it is as a result of sensory neurons in our skin (flesh)
that sends the data to the brain and then it responds to the stimuli/
stimulus.. ok in this assumed state of existing after death, how would you
feel pain? no skin, no brain? not even shape or form? from whence then
comes the pain?
(4)Assuming you are right and their is heaven and hell, you make heaven
and ur mum makes hell and you are fully aware ur mum is burning for
eternity in hell, is that not a torture of its own? can you live with that for
eternity?
(5)Who exactly was hell created for Humans/demons? cus from what you
christians hype (Those that claim to have gone to hell and back) demons
are the ones torturing humans even more than the flames... it leaves me
with a question "Was this hell created for demons or humans?..." did this
god just create hell after creating humans incase man bleeps up, then gather
some more spirit beings keep em there and use em to torture his so loved
humans?
(6)
For all the people shouting "repent for hell is real" if you do something cus
of a reward or cus u might be punished is that thing really good? or you
just did it for ur own selfish interest.
that means without the promise of heaven or threat of hell most of you here
will be bad.
But goodness is not about that "Goodness is doing what is right because
you know it is right" Be good for goodness sake.
..........
If you are good to others because of the promise of heaven, that shows
how little you think of others
If you are good to others because of the threat of hell that shoes how little
you think of urself.. Be good cus it is good.
(7)
How did you get to know that heaven and hell are real?
(a) A book told you?
(b)someone told you?
(c) Did you perceive them with ur conscious mind
if (a) and (b) is ur answer then is that real knowledge? ..how sure are you
that it is the truth?
if (c) is the case it means you have percieved heaven and hell with your
conscious mind just like you do the earth... we have all percieved this earth
with our conscious mind and we all know earth is real, we cant argue about
that!...But we cant say this for neither heaven or hell cus really none of us
have percieved them with our conscious mind.
After all this my conclusion is Be good for goodness sake; Radiate
boundless love towards everything that is known, the earth and every
creature in it and every human in it regardless of any differences...Then you
will learn the true meaning of goodness (morality)
AM NOT HERE FOR ARGUMENT, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT
this is bad thought bros.
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by watchman111: 1:29pm On Jan 31, 2015
Misogynist2014:
YAHWEH is not a monster, it is those that fail to understand that are, in fact we can't really blame them cos sometimes YAHWEH speaks in parables. There is nowhere in the Bible that states that hell is till eternity.

Jesus warned that we should not fear those that can destroy the body but HE that can destroy body and soul in hell. A parable of Jesus about a man planting a vineyard and the enemy coming to sow weed among the good plants, which the man knowing this, suffered not to destroy the weeds lest the good ones be destroyed. The man waited until the vine was ripe for harvest and destroyed the weed in fire. Do you burn weeds forever? Another is the story of Noah's Ark, where God destroyed the people once, whose difference from the pending destruction is fire, are they still being destroyed today in water? They were killed once with eternal effects: they died once and died forever, the same way it is impossible for weed burnt to rise again cos the effect of the Burning had eternal effect.

To nail it on the head, in order to clarify doubt Jude 1:7 called the fire of Sodom eternal fire! Is Sodom burning today? Certainly not. They were burnt once with eternal effects. Though some may point to the Story of Lazarus and the rich man but I want us to know it was only for the purpose of admonition and not for the purpose of telling us what hell is about. The LORD shall destroy evil men and affliction shall not rise second time.
the story of Lazarus was just for admonition??lol
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by gatiano(m): 2:37pm On Jan 31, 2015
Contrary to popular beliefs/ignorance, Jesus did not die to take anybody sins away, that will be injustice and ungodly, every man would answer for his or her own crime. Jesus did die for the liberation of some, He was born to comfort those that were in bondage, those that were weary, and also to warn the devils of their evil and wicked deeds, this He did wonderfully well.
There is a place in the bible where Jesus casted demon/devil out from someone, and before he could do that, the devil/demon asked Jesus why he was doing casting him(devil) out of a person when it wasn't time. The questions are- what is this time, that is needed to be completed? who was the possess person? and who is this devil? There was nothing extra ordinary in this case.

When Jesus was tempted, The devil told him (Jesus), that if Jesus would bow to him, He would give him the world. Jesus said what shall it profit a man to loose is own soul and gain the world. Why didn't Jesus told the devil "come, you can't give me what you don't own", He didn't say GOD only can give the world to whom ever. why? It is because Jesus knew the time. It was because of this time that Jesus gave up himself.

Jesus was not killed on the cross, he was not tortured or beaten, but the authority of the time wanted him dead. There is a place in the bible where he said "it is paramount for you that i go, so i will go but one would come.." (not word for word as in the bible), He used "go" and not "die".
There was a bounty on Jesus's head. if he was brought alive say 1000, and if he was killed 2000, So Jesus gave a poor soldier the benefit, he raised his hand while the soldier stabbed him quick without a pain rasing up his hand in form of a cross. A lot of people were buried alive in those days, even today a few, that is why we hear of people rising up after been dead for a few days, they were not dead, they are simply in the state of coma. Jesus was in this state too, However, He ascended/was lifted to GOD. this is not superstition or religion, The ascension is pure science of the metaphysical. as you can see something close in the movie interstella.

what is that time? try make your own research.

watchman111:
if all will go to hell so that their sins will be washed,what did Jesus come to ??
Re: What If Hell Truly Exist?? by johnydon22(m): 4:15pm On Jan 31, 2015
watchman111:
this is bad thought bros.
why dont you just answer the questions my guy!

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