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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:52am On Jan 30, 2015 |
[size=18]President badluck Jonathan was greeted with stones which were hurled at his convoy by an angry crowd dissatisfied over the handling of BH by the government of the day. The mob is angry over rag tag military that cannot handle Boko Haram effectively. [/size] http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/29/africa/nigeria-presidential-convoy-stoned/ 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by labistercollins(m): 7:05am On Jan 30, 2015 |
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:11am On Jan 30, 2015 |
http://www.iol.co.za/dailynews/opinion/airlifting-hope-to-country-under-water-1.1808070#.VMseM-BBvqA The Oryx helicopter is on the tarmac, undergoing a service outdoors under the hot tropical sun. It’s at the civilian Quelimane airport in Mozambique, where the SANDF is providing flood relief. On the tarmac, Corporal Phetogo Mahuma is at the top of a stepladder, filling up the oil at the tail rotor. “We are servicing aircraft in the veld just to get the job done,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Eddie Rieger, who is the force commander for the operation. The Oryx is the first of the three SANDF helicopters in the operation to need servicing – they shouldn’t fly more than 20 hours without maintenance – and an SA Air Force (SAAF) C130 heavy transport aircraft that flew from Gauteng to Quelimane on Tuesday, brought a crate of helicopter spares. The SANDF team is based at Quelimane on the coast, just south of the Licungo River, which burst its banks, and is working in Zambezia province, mainly in the Mocuba and Maganja districts. The SANDF was called in on January 14 – day four of the flooding – and flew a reconnaissance trip in a C130 the next day. It then moved in a team. The SANDF helicopters took a day-and-a-half to fly to Quelimane, arriving on Saturday. By then, the main search-and-rescue work had been done, so most of the SANDF’s job has been moving food aid and medical supplies. “We are the donkey moving the aid,” said Rieger. That aid is mostly food and medical supplies and comes from the Mozambique government, much of it from the UN. The SANDF deployment is for 14 days, but may be extended. The SANDF would not give details, such as the number of troops involved, until the operation was over, said Major-General Xolani Mabanga. Those deployed include the SA Military Health Services (SAMHS), pilots, divers, and teams for search-and-rescue work and moving aid. At the weekend, the SANDF helped set up rescue and aid centres in the regions, and aid was flown to those centres. Once there, local teams move it further. Rieger said most areas needing aid had received it, so the focus was on sustaining that. “It’s hard work. We’re busy from 7am to 7pm,” said an SAAF pilot. The Mozambique authorities are also flying aid in Antonov heavy freight aircraft. SANDF team members refer to the good co-operation with Mozambique authorities, with the teams from the two countries liaising daily, planning the work. “We want to get to the bottom of it to say: What is your exact requirement and where?” said Lieutenant-Colonel Evert Potgieter, from Air Force Command in Pretoria. He is the team’s liaison officer with Mozambique’s government. By midday on Tuesday, the SANDF team had flown 45 sorties in three days, a total of almost 30 flight hours in the two big Oryx helicopters and the smaller Agusta A109. SAMHS is a key part of the team and has an ops medic on every flight. “They collect medical intelligence that’s fed back into the system,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Danie Wehl of SAMHS. “It’s far better than in previous deployments. I think they were better prepared,” he said. On Monday, one of those flights was to Ile district to collect two women in labour who urgently needed Caesarean sections and take them to hospital in Mocuba. Other flights have moved patients from smaller hospitals to bigger ones. It’s the displacement of people and damage to infrastructure that’s the big logistical problem. Rieger said about 230 000 people had been affected. Death tolls are vague as many people are still missing. While the waters are slowly receding and the communities are no longer in immediate danger, those displaced face hunger and the threats of cholera and malaria. “Those are two of our enemies we want to combat,” said Rieger. Qari Ziyaad Patel, from South African aid organisation Al-Imdaad Foundation, arrived on Monday. The foundation has raised about R1.15 million from South African donors and distributed more than 1 000 aid packages. “People are desperate for food right now,” said Patel. The C130 aircraft has been back and forth. Sergeant Thubelihle Khumalo is the air-load master responsible for distributing the weight of the cargo safely. He has also flown regularly to the DRC as part of the SANDF support there and says his job is “not for a married man”. The cargo the SANDF has flown in has included a back-up plan for getting home again: 20 drums of aviation fuel for the helicopters. They have managed on what they have found in Mozambique so far, although Quelimane airport ran out of fuel for a few hours on Monday. Flying those 1 500km home means refilling three times on the way, so they’re keeping 13 drums of fuel in reserve to get to the first refuelling stop. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 8:23am On Jan 30, 2015 |
mzilakazi:You must either be delusional or plain stupid to just speer nonsense. How did your suppose best military school fail to produce a battle scenario against seleka? The only thing recognizable about you is your Defeat from CAR |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 8:29am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Henry120: Leave AndrewZA to whine in pain! No Naval Officer or Ship Captain would give out such info. And if that's the info AndrewZA got, I am certain he's been punked nicely! 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:47am On Jan 30, 2015 |
dakingsman: You are doing a good job. I always knew, just wanted to re-confirm. No problem, just post them the Igirigi's and your entire inventory of photos  . For the CS/VP3's, many guys on here spotted them When they(new batch) first arrived in lagos. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:49am On Jan 30, 2015 |
patches689: You must be absolutely deluded to claim the above as military victories. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:51am On Jan 30, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:09am On Jan 30, 2015 |
NaijaPikinGidi: I did not anserw the wustion because some one did so for me. Fact is she is not stealth. Her fun el pumps out hot air and all the clutter on the Deck ruin any stealth the hull gave. She will appear the same size has a valour does on radar. Witch though small is pointless since she is small. In fact there are ships that are smaller that pack has much punch. The whole point of the stealth on the valour is to suprise the enemy. Here is a frigate with all it for power and defences the size of a fishing boat on radar. If course I have said I like her. She is a good patrol boat. She will shock ileagel fishermen, smugglers, pirates, extra. They don't have the radar of a war ship so they may confuses her for a fishing boat and by the time it is they see her it is to late. But she is no match for a frigate. All so don't call me a officer. I work for my living. 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:11am On Jan 30, 2015 |
charlos14: A defeat where we achieved all our prestated objectives. At no point did we claim to be defending the country. Only our trainers. No trainer was lost. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ELKASPBG(m): 9:19am On Jan 30, 2015 |
“For 30 years, we had only one frigate, now we have four additional frigates,” |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 9:20am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG: ? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ELKASPBG(m): 9:20am On Jan 30, 2015 |
nigerian navy will cook all S/A navy in less than 3mins |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 9:46am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG: Cool story |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 9:47am On Jan 30, 2015 |
South African equipment.....impressing as usual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t58VFhCvgw&feature=youtube_gdata_player 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 10:01am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG: With what. You do know your anti ship missiles are old, your SAM's are out dated and your ASW Is non existent. 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ELKASPBG(m): 10:26am On Jan 30, 2015 |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:37am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG: Dreaming as usual |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:39am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG: Exactly with what sir? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ELKASPBG(m): 10:43am On Jan 30, 2015 |
andrewza: i just know south african guys are fools so u think nigerian army will post all their weapons and equipment as you guys (Hollywood army) do? i just told u we have 5 frigates and you think they will still be using those obsolete but strong and good waiting south african navy waster missiles? you guys never want to hear any way don't ask me for pic or sites because i will not show you those new babys in our backyard waiting to waist you 32kote ship and submarines which do not have the ability to move 15km without surfacing. in conclusion any time you guys dear enter our waters without due permission that will be the day s/a navy will size to exist. try and see just give it a try i will be waiting for you |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ELKASPBG(m): 10:44am On Jan 30, 2015 |
andrewza: i just know south african guys are fools so u think nigerian army will post all their weapons and equipment as you guys (Hollywood army) do? i just told u we have 5 frigates and you think they will still be using those obsolete but strong and good waiting south african navy waster missiles? you guys never want to hear any way don't ask me for pic or sites because i will not show you those new babys in our backyard waiting to waist you 32kote ship and submarines which do not have the ability to move 15km without surfacing. in conclusion any time you guys dear enter our waters without due permission that will be the day s/a navy will size to exist. try and see just give it a try i will be waiting for you andrewza: i just know south african guys are fools so u think nigerian army will post all their weapons and equipment as you guys (Hollywood army) do? i just told u we have 5 frigates and you think they will still be using those obsolete but strong and good waiting south african navy waster missiles? you guys never want to hear any way don't ask me for pic or sites because i will not show you those new babys in our backyard waiting to waist you 32kote ship and submarines which do not have the ability to move 15km without surfacing. in conclusion any time you guys dear enter our waters without due permission that will be the day s/a navy will size to exist. try and see just give it a try i will be waiting for you andrewza: i just know south african guys are fools so u think nigerian army will post all their weapons and equipment as you guys (Hollywood army) do? i just told u we have 5 frigates and you think they will still be using those obsolete but strong and good waiting south african navy waster missiles? you guys never want to hear any way don't ask me for pic or sites because i will not show you those new babys in our backyard waiting to waist you 32kote ship and submarines which do not have the ability to move 15km without surfacing. in conclusion any time you guys dear enter our waters without due permission that will be the day s/a navy will size to exist. try and see just give it a try i will be waiting for you |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:46am On Jan 30, 2015 |
charlos14: BH defeat your army everyday and you have even lost a chunk of land equal to Belgium. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:52am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG: Nigerian Navy has almost Zero weapons. It is defeated by pirates almost everyday and I really wonder what will you use to stop our frigates and submarines. You are warned. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:55am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG: Man you are dreaming. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by RM786: 10:56am On Jan 30, 2015 |
ELKASPBG:  Yes please do tell. With what and how? In SA waters NN will be sitting ducks and in Nigerian waters SAN will be getting in way over their heads. But out in blue water with both NN and SAN away from home support straight navy vs navy engagement? Come on man... don't be delusional the NN's goose will be well and truly char grilled  2 Likes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:17pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
Henry120: Including F-7 jets, all NAF combat jets are fully maintained and serviced at home domestically, reason why we don't have jets in frozen long term storage like the unlucky Southies . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:27pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
patches689: Yes I can read, and it does say what I claimed, and in addition to that, it shows 10 countries with 103 students in class, so South Africa has several senior COIN war operatives as participants, students in Nigerian army military college sitting down beside Cameroon and Togo learning COIN war tactics and strategy from Nigerian army, we have reduced you down to student level like Togo and Cameroon, that is the class you belong. So, it says what I claimed : "Jaji (Kaduna), NIGERIA - A total of 103 counter insurgency operatives from Nigeria and nine other African countries have concluded a four-week intensive training on internal security. Graduation of Basic Counter-Terrorism Course for soldiers of the 70th Regular intake in Jaji The training, which was held at the Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji, Kaduna State, drew participants from 11 agencies and organisations, as well as Senior Course 36 of the college. Other participants were from South Africa ,Togo, Cameroon, Gambia, Burkina Faso, Benin Republic, Liberia, Sierra Leone and Ghana. The Commandant of the college, Air Vice Marshal John Ifemije, said on Friday at the close of the training that it was meant to enhance the preparedness of the personnel in confronting internal security challenges. He noted that "dealing with complex security challenges these days goes beyond the conventional techniques. Ifemije urged the participants to use the knowledge gained from the training to strengthen inter agency cooperation, share information and intelligence, adhere to rules of engagement and to seek for the intervention of the military whenever necessary. The commandant commended them on their conduct throughout the exercise and urged them to remain committed to their responsibilities. Earlier, the Director, Department of Joint Studies of the college, Brig-Gen. Benjamin Ahanato said the training code named 'EX HASKE BIYU,' was the participants to value "joint consultation, sharing of information and freedom of action." (NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA) . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:50pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
[size=18]Nigerian Army admits that many of its officers cheat from their exams. I really wouldn't understand why would AU or UN endorse an application of a Nigerian Commander wherever they see one. It is such a scandal indeed.[/size] http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201303140386.html/ . 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 12:56pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
agaugust: I don't even think more than 5 SA soldiers attended that course. [size=18]Meanwhile, SA mercenaries are now training thousands of Nigerian soldiers how to fight insurgency and terrorism. They will lead Nigerian soldiers and command them in the war. You see now, SA brain is superior to tiny Nigerian brain.[/size] 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:06pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
andrewza: Orange colour boat might be choice for easy ID at sea in deep offshore waters, it is unique and the crew knows their boat different from pirates boats at sea, easy ID at a distance if sailors want to shoot at pirates or see how their own boat crew is faring afar off, also easy to see in storm for rescue and pick up. LOL, you are always intimidated by Nigerian Navy's stealth fleet of 2 units of OPVs, 2 units of MPVs, 60 units of IPVs, 62 stealth vessels that South African navy does NOT have....reason why you say Nigerian stealth ships are not stealth, LOL...stealth capability built in Europe and Asia...Manufacturer specs clearly and repeatedly says NNS Centenary is stealth and TOTALLY invisible to enemy radar at a long distance, only at close distance will radar detect a much smaller image and think it is a canoe or tiny fishing boat. The video also shows the sea trials prove the ship is modular and can be easily reconfigured from OPV to light frigate in case war arises, the ship has amidships on deck midpoint vertical missile launchers and astern mid deck vertical rocket launchers, all tested at sea before hand over to NN, but likely all launchers removed after testing and debugging to return it to regular OPV status. The missile test is shown in the video at minutes 1:30 to 1:40, clean and clear ! It's no big deal to understand for intelligent folks.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3170G4rhA&feature=player_embedded . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:12pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
agaugust: Nah! Don't you ever lie to us. Your OPVs are not stealth at all. Don't you ever accolade them for features which they don't have. That's illegitimate. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:17pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
patches689: Report was posted here last year and confirmed SAN chased pirates but could NEVER catch one There are very few pirates in Mozambique waters because there is NOTHING valuable there except fishes Put Nigeria and Angola's oil and gas in Mozambique channels with all the oil companies working there, then you will see piracy beyond what the whole SADC navies can control....your region has no single stealth OPV and modern MPA aircraft to do the job . |
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