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Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 11:52pm On Jan 29, 2015 |
Sagamite:Lool! Going by your definition, I can authoritatively say that Paedophilia isn't an abnormality. Is it? By the way, Paedophilia doesn't perverse the natural use of sexual organs. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:55pm On Jan 29, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: A mental disorder is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), and which is not a developmental or social norm. Mental disorders are generally defined by a combination of how a person feels, acts, thinks or perceives. This may be associated with particular regions or functions of the brain or rest of the nervous system, often in a social context. carefreewannabe: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perverse http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perversion carefreewannabe: When your brain makes you desire to use your sexual organs on a being against the order of nature and normality, then you are perversing the natural and normal use of sexual organs. A normal and natural adult would have a brain that makes them desire an adult of opposite sex. Not a child who is not fully developed. Any desire for a sexually underdeveloped child is a perversion. carefreewannabe: Normal is the norm of sexual interactions. Natural is the natural intended use of sexual organs. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:56pm On Jan 29, 2015 |
FrancisTony: Authoritatively? I am listening. Tell me. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 12:00am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite:Heterosexual paedophiles go the normal/natural way of having sex. Therefore, your definition won't classify it as an abnormality. Notwithstanding that some heterosexual males also practise anäl sex with females. Does that make them abnormal? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 12:06am On Jan 30, 2015 |
FrancisTony: You are not authoritative. Next time, read and comprehend before making such a statement. It is not normal or natural to use your sex organs on a 3 year old. Your brain should, if you are normal and natural, trigger you to be excited only when you see features of an adult of opposite sex. Not a child, someone of same sex, dog, dead body, car, tree, Tin of Bournvita etc. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 12:16am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: When you copy and paste, provide the source please. I have already done my research and the definition you have provided is imprecise and highly disputable. You should do more in-depth analysis before you diagnose people with mental disorders Mr Freud Now let us have a closer look at the definition, that you have so easily adopted. A mental disorder is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), How does homosexuality cause suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life? and which is not a developmental or social norm. Who decides what a social norm is? To discriminate against Jews was a norm in Hitler Germany. I think that I can comfortably ignore the rest of the definition since it lacks any substance, it is meaningless and does not help to diagnose anyone with anything. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/perverse I said that the verb "to perverse" does not exist and you send me two links that show that perverse is an adjective. When your brain makes you desire to use your sexual organs on a being against the order of nature and normality, then you are perversing the natural and normal use of sexual organs. What "normal" is depends on many factors such as, for instance, social norms. Social norms depend on the cultural context and change over time. It is therefore difficult to determine what "normal" actually means and philosophers have spent a considerable time discussing the question. Now how does a pedophile use his sexual organs against the order of nature and normality? A normal and natural adult would have a brain that makes them desire an adult of opposite sex. Not a child who is not fully developed. Says who? Any desire for a sexually underdeveloped child is a perversion A 13-year-old is se*xually developed. A 12-year-old is able to have kids. Is it not what se*xuality is for? Procreation? Why is it unnatural? Normal is the norm of sexual interactions. Sorry? Natural is the natural intended use of sexual organs. A man wants to procreate with a 13-year-old and impregnate her, what is unnatural about it? Her body can NATURALLY do it. 1 Like |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 12:19am On Jan 30, 2015 |
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Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 12:32am On Jan 30, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: Can you give me what your definition is? carefreewannabe: You cut out the rest of the definition? carefreewannabe: And put it here? Social norm is defined by society. Some social norms are defined based on morals and values. Some would be spurred by naturality. carefreewannabe: And so? carefreewannabe: Nah grammar school we dey? Why are you asking me to prove the existence "to perverse" to you? Did you see me use the verb, teasha? carefreewannabe: I have already explained the origins of social norms are to you above. carefreewannabe: It is not normal or natural to be turned on by a child, hence having the sexual desire to shag a child is against the order of nature and normality. carefreewannabe: Says nature. carefreewannabe: And so? Who said it was unnatural? carefreewannabe: Normal sexual interactions. Deeck and pucci! carefreewannabe: Yes. Who said otherwise? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 12:57am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: I have no definition and as a matter of fact there is no generally accepted definition. Nobody doubts the existence of mental disorders but there is an ongoing debate over what a mental disorder is. Consequently, professionals and especially non-professionals must be careful before labeling people. You cut out the rest of the definition? And put it here? I ignored the last two sentences because there was nothing meaningful about them. Social norm is defined by society. So the killing of twins was normal, a norm defined by society. Some social norms are defined based on morals and values. Some would be spurred by naturality. Others by in*sanity and ignorance, like the killing of twins or female genital circumcision. Normal, not? And so? And so your definition is highly questionable. I am actually surprised you fell for it so easily. Nah grammar school we dey? I am only trying to understand your definition. Why are you asking me to prove the existence "to perverse" to you? Did you see me use the verb, teasha? Yes, I did. It's written here, you can go back and re-read it. I have already explained the origins of social norms are to you above. Rather have I. It is not normal or natural to be turned on by a child, hence having the sexual desire to shag a child is against the order of nature and normality. It is normal in many parts of the world for millions of people. Is it natural? Maybe. I don't know. natural existing in nature; not made or caused by humans http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/natural_1?q=natural Says nature. Well, nature has also caused some human beings to develop cancer. Does nature dictate what is right or wrong? Is natural always good and unnatural always evil? And so? So now pedophilia is normal (in some parts of the world for many people) and natural? It is not abnormal? It is not a mental disorder? Normal sexual interactions. Why is it normal? Sorry, I forgot you said that society dictates what normal is. So homosexuality and pedophilia are normal depending on where they occur. Yes. So it is not pedophilia when a 35-year-old impregnantes a 12-year-old? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 1:16am On Jan 30, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: No generally accepted definitions? But there are some definitions that are accepted by most? I gave you one. How did you come to the conclusion it is imprecise and highly disputable? What part of it did you find imprecise and highly disputable? And how would you improve this? carefreewannabe: You chopped up the first sentence. carefreewannabe: Yes. And so? carefreewannabe: Yes, it is normal and I agree. carefreewannabe: Sagamite? Fall? Questionable how? carefreewannabe: How are you trying to understand my definition by asking me to explain a verb I did not use? carefreewannabe: Teasha, where? Show me. I am pretty sure I did not use a verb. carefreewannabe: No, it is not normal in many parts of the world for people to fancy children. carefreewannabe: Nature also dictates tsunamis and tornadoes. That is nature and many (if not majority) base social rules on it. No one said anything about unnatural being evil. carefreewannabe: Who said paedophilia was normal and natural? I don't think you grasp definitions. carefreewannabe: I suggest you revisit my definition of social norms. carefreewannabe: Why do you think it is paedophilia? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 2:06am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: One more time, because you are denying that you have not used this verb, which does not exist. It is here in red. There is not to perverse (verb), there is only perverse (adjective). The difference between a verb and an adjective is really not so difficult. And before we go round in circles, you have no qualifications to diagnose people with mental disorders. You have googled the definition of mental disorder and used the first definition without actually understanding it. Your argumentation is shaky and based on sentiments rather than a coherent line of reasoning. Let us look at your definition again and assume that it is a reliable tool to diagnose mental disorders. A mental disorder is a mental or behavioral pattern or anomaly that causes either suffering or an impaired ability to function in ordinary life (disability), and which is not a developmental or social norm. Mental disorders are generally defined by a combination of how a person feels, acts, thinks or perceives. This may be associated with particular regions or functions of the brain or rest of the nervous system, often in a social context. [size=3pt]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder[/size] This is the definition you provided. So how is homo*sexuality a behavioral pattern that causes suffering or an impaired ability to function? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 6:09am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite:Okay You haven't answered my last question, whether some heterosexuals that engage in anäl sex are normal. And also, are lesbians normal?, because their mode of sex don't go against your so-called nature. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by fleet7(m): 7:13am On Jan 30, 2015 |
beryl04: why are you gay?you trying to tell God he made a mistake you better repent don't be ignorant, if being gay is life then i would rather be in hell.Your just another genetial mistake.You lucky i don't know you or else i would have seperated your head from your body your a course to humanity and you all must die and burn in hell,your sin is beyound repentance its only death that cleans your blood from the course you have brought to this world |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by fleet7(m): 7:16am On Jan 30, 2015 |
FrancisTony: another Gay on nairaland God will punish you |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 7:23am On Jan 30, 2015 |
fleet7:Lmfao! You think I'm here to exchange words? If you don't have anything reasonable to say, desist from quoting me. Thanks |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by fleet7(m): 7:37am On Jan 30, 2015 |
[quote author=franugo post=30221517] meh, everybody with their own opinion, thats really not a problem. The problem is when some eeeeeddiaaats would go out of their way 2 mob a defenseless person cos he gat a different inclination/orientation 4rm theirs...what then seperates them 4rm killers like bokoharam[/quo busted another gay on nairaland just hide because if i catch you i will seperate your head from your body how can you compare two different ideas that don't even complement each other |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by jnrbayano(m): 8:06am On Jan 30, 2015 |
If I have all the powers to preside this case, I will do the following: 1. The 61-year old's action is very nauseating and disturbing. He acted like a paedophile and a gay all at the same time. Why take advantage of a little boy of 13 to satisfy your sexual urge thereby teaching him it's okay to be attracted to your kind? I will have him detained in an asylum for as long as it would take to rearrange his disordered brain about attraction to same sex. 2. The time I was 13years old, I was already in JSS 3. This 61-year old man wouldn't have tried such with me. I knew clearly that a "private part" is private and I know the definition of the word, private. I will have him flogged with a few strokes. It will serve as a deterrent. 3. I will always hand the mobs over to the authorities. It's no brainer! Humans shouldn't be animals. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by franugo(m): 8:23am On Jan 30, 2015 |
[quote author=fleet7 post=30262793][/quote] bustedhahahe, i laff in huttese...they are differently similar, catch my drift? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 10:42am On Jan 30, 2015 |
FrancisTony: Who they are attracted to is normal. Whatever action they utilise in the attractraction is a different case. You have to learn the difference between desires and actions. FrancisTony: I suggest you go back and read my posts on this thread. When you do, I implore you to read it carefully and take some time to comprehend it. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:19am On Jan 30, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: Teasha, asI told you, I am a product of Shagamu Institute of Technology. Dem no dey teash us all this things you are talking about. I never said "to perverse", I said "perverses". That said, maybe it would have been more right to use perverts. carefreewannabe: I need a qualification before I can identify people with a mental disorder? I need an engineering degree before I can identify a thing as a car? I even need a diploma in hair-dressing before I can identify that a woman has had her hair made? Or what next will you say? I should go and bring you "proof"? You are yet to tell me what your understanding of what mental disorder is before you can "diagnose" that I have no actual understanding of it and the definition I provided is imprecise and highly disputable. carefreewannabe: Lol. My argument is incoherent? Let me tell you why it is incoherent to you. You wanna know? Wait for it ................................. Wait ............................. Because I have a mental disorder. Before I go on and expand on that, let me quickly deviate and highlight that again, you decide to chop a sentence half way to ask a question. Now back to my mental disorder. I am not normal, I don't follow the social norm. My behavioural pattern reflects someone that is suffering and has an impaired ability to function in ordinary life, and this behavioural pattern in not a developmental norm, nor a social norm. My brain and thinking has developed differently from that of almost all in society. This affects the way I feel, act, think and perceive things. It also causes me a lot of suffering in ordinary life. This is why you feel my argument and line of thinking is incoherent. Unlike you, I have not fallen for social noise. Because I have a mental disorder, I have an inherent desire to ALWAYS question whatever information people are giving me and trying to put in my brain. Because I have a mental disorder, I have an inherent desire to not listen only to what people tell me, but to question it and come up with my own ORIGINAL thinking, where improvements are possible. I said it all here on my profile: http://www.jarushub.com/sagamite-are-polytechnics-on-par-with-universities/ "He prides himself on his organic, objective and independent thinking, so the audience should expect a significant number of his articles to be contra-popular belief. He is one of Nigeria’s leading objective-Contrarian thinkers about life’s generally accepted conventional wisdom." Now to you, my argument appears incoherent because you see me not calling an adult having sex with a 12 year old "a paedophile". Your problem is lack of original thinking. You fell for social noise. Unlike you, I have been researching and thinking about this shyt long before I began arguing about it. I have an insatiable appetite for knowledge and challenging the norm. Conventional wisdom does not mean shyt to me. My reasoned wisdom is what matters. ............................I admit, a mental disorder. I am not like everybody else. You are normal, I am not! When people and the media shout those adults having sex with 12 to 17 year old a PAEDOPHILE. I did not take it hook line and sinker. As it came to my brain, I questioned and scrutinised it before I allowed it to enter. That is the normal process information goes through in the brain of an objective-contrarian thinker. I thought to myself, how can we have a LOGICAL description of paedophilia? Where does the cut-off mark come in? Considering the different ages of consent in all parts of the world and even amongst the enlightened nation, how can this be paedophilia? Considering that some pubescent girls can have matured features and can reproduce, how come we are calling people that fancy them a term that is for mental disorder? So you know what? I did my research. YEARS AGO! ..............On WIKIPEDIA! I thought thinkers, that do not fall for such conventional wisdom, must have done some work on it. And, yes, they had. They are not paedophiles. They are called hebephiles. Because the media charges you up with outrage and calls them carelessly paedophiles, does not make them paedophiles. They are not sick, they are just unprincipled and immoral. And we jail them based on our disapproval of their immorality and unpricipled actions. Rightfully so. I have no problems with laws based on morals. That was why we were going in circles. Because you did not know this and you made an assumption about my thoughts instead of asking me. So I kept on asking you "And so?". Then you get confused because you had not done the research and understood it, thought I was being ambiguous and labelled it "incoherent". 1 Like |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 11:24am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: So how is homo*sexuality a behavioral pattern that causes suffering or an impaired ability to function? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:26am On Jan 30, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: Who said that? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 11:30am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: carefreewannabe: Sagamite: Carefreewannabe: Sagamite: [b]So how is homo*sexuality a behavioral pattern that causes suffering or an impaired ability to function? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:39am On Jan 30, 2015 |
fleet7: You are a moronic fuuktard! 1 Like |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:41am On Jan 30, 2015 |
So I asked you who said this: carefreewannabe: And you showed me I said this: Sagamite: |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 11:43am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: Is it not the definition you based your opinion on that homosexuals have a mental disorder? You don't like it now? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:45am On Jan 30, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: Is it? |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 11:48am On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: Facing the judge: No further questions your honor. Case closed. Carefree would make an excellent lawyer. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 11:51am On Jan 30, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: The judge would say, "Go back to law school and learn how to exactly address what your learned opposition argued before you ever come to my court again". The beauty of online/forum arguments compared to real life arguments. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 12:00pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: You claimed that homose*xuals have a mental disorder and to prove your point used a definition of mental disorder that disproved your claim instead of proving it. You cannot escape since it is written here and cannot be denied. Indeed beautiful. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Sagamite(m): 12:16pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
carefreewannabe: Explain how my definition disproved it. I wait. |
Re: Mob Beats 61 Year Old Gay Suspect To Stupour In Lagos by Nobody: 12:18pm On Jan 30, 2015 |
Sagamite: When you answer my question: How is homo*sexuality a behavioral pattern that causes suffering or an impaired ability to function? |
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