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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:21pm On Jan 30, 2015
agaugust:


Report was posted here last year and confirmed SAN chased pirates but could NEVER catch one grin

There are very few pirates in Mozambique waters because there is NOTHING valuable there except fishes grin

Put Nigeria and Angola's oil and gas in Mozambique channels with all the oil companies working there, then you will see piracy beyond what the whole SADC navies can control....your region has no single stealth OPV and modern MPA aircraft to do the job grin
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Pirates know well that SAN is not a park where you can just walk over with impunity. We really do not need an OPV to send a strong message to them.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:24pm On Jan 30, 2015
[size=18]President badluck Jonathan was greeted with stones which were hurled at his convoy by an angry crowd dissatisfied over the handling of BH by the government of the day. The mob is angry over rag tag military that cannot handle Boko Haram effectively. [/size]


http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/29/africa/nigeria-presidential-convoy-stoned/
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 1:26pm On Jan 30, 2015
Edward @DonKlericuzio · 3h 3 hours ago

Nigerian Army vanguard troops engages #BokoHaram Terrorists in #Madagali 1st time after its capture in 4months just as #Michika is Liberated

Overnight, Nigerian Army Artillery shells flashing across sky, explosions thundering across fields. Madagali environs hammered.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:27pm On Jan 30, 2015
patches689:


[citation needed]

One instance doesnt mean it is standard.

And fact remains, we have one of the best academies in the world. You dont have an internationally recognized one.

And finally, no SANDF troops are under Nigerian command.

Stop asking people to repeat citations posted here many times. SANDF officers failed academy exams and get promoted.

"And UN lambasts discipline of South Africa’s ‘poorly trained’ troops.

The officer in charge of training soldiers for deployment to the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) is an exam cheat.

And in another embarrassment for the SA National Defence Force (SANDF), a top UN official sharply criticised the discipline and combat readiness of South African soldiers in Sudan in a recent letter.

Brigadier-General Sithabiso Mahlobo, who was found guilty in 2002 of cheating in exams, is in charge of the training of soldiers who are in the process of being deployed to the war-torn North Kivu province of the DRC.

He is the commander of 46 SA Brigade in Kengray, Joburg."

http://www.citypress.co.za/news/exam-cheat-is-training-army/

Stop asking for old citations to be repeated here, you fraudulent retaaard !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 1:29pm On Jan 30, 2015
Edward @DonKlericuzio · Jan 27

The #Nigeria CH3 A1-Air-Ground missile armed UAV that crashed at Dumge village N.E Nigeria has been retrieved

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:32pm On Jan 30, 2015
agaugust:


Orange colour boat might be choice for easy ID at sea in deep offshore waters, it is unique and the crew knows their boat different from pirates boats at sea, easy ID at a distance if sailors want to shoot at pirates or see how their own boat crew is faring afar off, also easy to see in storm for rescue and pick up.

LOL, you are always intimidated by Nigerian Navy's stealth fleet of 2 units of OPVs, 2 units of MPVs, 60 units of IPVs, 62 stealth vessels that South African navy does NOT have....reason why you say Nigerian stealth ships are not stealth, LOL...stealth capability built in Europe and Asia...Manufacturer specs clearly and repeatedly says NNS Centenary is stealth and TOTALLY invisible to enemy radar at a long distance, only at close distance will radar detect a much smaller image and think it is a canoe or tiny fishing boat.

The video also shows the sea trials prove the ship is modular and can be easily reconfigured from OPV to light frigate in case war arises, the ship has amidships on deck midpoint vertical missile launchers and astern mid deck vertical rocket launchers, all tested at sea before hand over to NN, but likely all launchers removed after testing and debugging to return it to regular OPV status. The missile test is shown in the video at minutes 1:30 to 1:40, clean and clear !

It's no big deal to understand for intelligent folks....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3170G4rhA&feature=player_embedded

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Sure it may be use full for rescue work. But it is big orange and shows up on radar

They not stealth. You can see the mast has straight lines and flat sides. The're are flat surfaces and clutter every where. I would give her a 50% reduction. Yes small but far from tiny. Not to menstio she has no reducstio in thermal.


Please find them. To make you halt I will even post close up shots of her.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 1:33pm On Jan 30, 2015
Edward @DonKlericuzio · 1h 1 hour ago

An officer told me #BokoHaram tried counter attacked #Michika from rear but was fight off effectively. No encirclement or retreat
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Edward @DonKlericuzio · 1h 1 hour ago

Frontline reports of #BokoHaram pouring fighters into #Gulak from #Gwoza as captured BH deserters who fled waga mongoro villages confirms
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Edward @DonKlericuzio · 1h 1 hour ago

Several Tauregs were killed among the #BokoHaram jihadists in #Michika on Wednesday. A tracked APC was destroyed and several arms siezed
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:37pm On Jan 30, 2015
agaugust:


Stop asking people to repeat citations posted here many times. SANDF officers failed academy exams and get promoted.

"And UN lambasts discipline of South Africa’s ‘poorly trained’ troops.

The officer in charge of training soldiers for deployment to the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) is an exam cheat.

And in another embarrassment for the SA National Defence Force (SANDF), a top UN official sharply criticised the discipline and combat readiness of South African soldiers in Sudan in a recent letter.

Brigadier-General Sithabiso Mahlobo, who was found guilty in 2002 of cheating in exams, is in charge of the training of soldiers who are in the process of being deployed to the war-torn North Kivu province of the DRC.

He is the commander of 46 SA Brigade in Kengray, Joburg."

http://www.citypress.co.za/news/exam-cheat-is-training-army/

Stop asking for old citations to be repeated here, you fraudulent retaaard !
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Did we not talk about this before?

The news paper could not produce the report

We refused training I g because we did not need it. In fact the ambushed trooper performed well.

I mean don't bring up stuff from the past.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:37pm On Jan 30, 2015
patches689:


yeah, sure, because you say so.

Same way you said Nigeria is not getting any T-72 and BTR-4....you just play ball over the bar randomly.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:40pm On Jan 30, 2015
Henry120:


You must be absolutely deluded to claim the above as military victories.

@Patches is iinsane, Vietnam a military victory for USA? The guy is maaad !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:42pm On Jan 30, 2015
[quote author=agaugust post=30272172]

Same way you said Nigeria is not getting any T-72 and BTR-4....you just play ball over the bar randomly.[/quo[email][/email]te]

You Geri g BTR4 now. The ukrains must be desperate for cash.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 1:42pm On Jan 30, 2015
agaugust:


Stop asking people to repeat citations posted here many times. SANDF officers failed academy exams and get promoted.

"And UN lambasts discipline of South Africa’s ‘poorly trained’ troops.

The officer in charge of training soldiers for deployment to the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) is an exam cheat.

And in another embarrassment for the SA National Defence Force (SANDF), a top UN official sharply criticised the discipline and combat readiness of South African soldiers in Sudan in a recent letter.

Brigadier-General Sithabiso Mahlobo, who was found guilty in 2002 of cheating in exams, is in charge of the training of soldiers who are in the process of being deployed to the war-torn North Kivu province of the DRC.

He is the commander of 46 SA Brigade in Kengray, Joburg."

http://www.citypress.co.za/news/exam-cheat-is-training-army/

Stop asking for old citations to be repeated here, you fraudulent retaaard !
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[size=18]Nigerian Army admits that many of its officers cheat from their exams. I really wouldn't understand why would AU or UN endorse an application of a Nigerian Commander wherever they see one. It is such a scandal indeed.[/size]



http://m.allafrica.com/stories/201303140386.html/
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:43pm On Jan 30, 2015
agaugust:


@Patches is iinsane, Vietnam a military victory for USA? The guy is maaad !

It was. When the US withdrew the front was stablizrd and there was a peace treaty. Nigerians need to study the war. Not the holieood vetstion.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:44pm On Jan 30, 2015
mzilakazi:


BH defeat your army everyday and you have even lost a chunk of land equal to Belgium.

Show us the exact geographical square metres size land size of each town Boko Haram 'controls'.....then we add up the sqm if it equals the size of Belgium truly....so prove your claim with square meters !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:51pm On Jan 30, 2015
andrewza:
You Geri g BTR4 now. The ukrains must be desperate for cash.

Nigeria has BTR-4 IFV ultra-modern. You missed may things on the forum, NA and NAF have changed to next level beyond your imagination.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 1:54pm On Jan 30, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria has BTR-4 IFV ultra-modern. You missed may things on the forum, NA and NAF have changed to next level beyond your imagination.

They far from ultra modern.

How many you getting.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:16pm On Jan 30, 2015
http://info-news.eu/ukraine-delivered-t-72ab-tanks-and-btr-4e-apcs-to-nigeria/

Ukraine Industrial, referring to Nigerian source “Beegeagle’s Blog”, published information about the delivery of Soviet-made T-72AB tanks and modern Ukrainian BTR-4E APCs.

Previously there was no information about contracts on delivery of such armaments to Nigeria. However, the information about the repair works of T-72AV at State Enterprise “Lviv Armor Repair Plant” appeared in September 2014. Concerning the BTR-4E, it seems that small part of 42 BTR-4E APCs batch designed for Iraq, was sold to Nigeria, after Iraq refused to accept them.

On March 26, 2014, Ukraine’s ex-PM Yulia Tymoshenko asked the Security Service of Ukraine to investigate the sale of military equipment to foreign states during the time of Russian military aggression against Ukraine. She also noted, that she had the information about the preparation of delivery of T-72 tanks and BTR-4E APCs to Nigeria.

Valeriy Heletey, then-Defense Minister of Ukraine, refuted some part of Tymoshenko’s statements, while confirmed the existence of a sales contract between Ukraine and Nigeria. “The contract was signed during the presidency of Viktor Yanukovych, and in case of inability to fulfill this contract, Ukraine will be obliged to pay the penalties.” – said Mr. Heletey.

According to unofficial information, in 2014, the Democratic Republic of Congo received a batch of modernized T-64B1M tanks in the framework of sales contract for 50 such tanks. However, 12 T-64B1M from that batch were delivered to the National Guard of Ukraine.

- See more at: http://info-news.eu/ukraine-delivered-t-72ab-tanks-and-btr-4e-apcs-to-nigeria/#sthash.awMoZvrO.dpuf

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:16pm On Jan 30, 2015
Seems you got a Small batch of AFV again.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 2:25pm On Jan 30, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 2:38pm On Jan 30, 2015










saairforce.co.za

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 2:49pm On Jan 30, 2015
rka1:

Edward @DonKlericuzio · Jan 27

The #Nigeria CH3 A1-Air-Ground missile armed UAV that crashed at Dumge village N.E Nigeria has been retrieved

Is it,now? Did thy also "retrieve" the missing jet from last year, which they denied had crashed?

Yes? No? Maybe?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 3:14pm On Jan 30, 2015
DieVluit:


Is it,now? Did thy also "retrieve" the missing jet from last year, which they denied had crashed?

Yes? No? Maybe?

Why don't you go and tweet and ask Edward? It was on the 27th.

BTW, nobody denied any jets had crashed. Get your facts right.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 3:31pm On Jan 30, 2015
rka1:

Why don't you go and tweet and ask Edward? It was on the 27th.
BTW, nobody denied any jets had crashed. Get your facts right.

EVERYONE denied:

1. That it had crashed; and
2. That the beheaded pilot was a NAF man.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/confusion-beheading-air-force-pilot-captured-killed/

You get your facts straight. Seeing as you are the one in the mood of posting about retrievals, was the jet retrieved?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:01pm On Jan 30, 2015
DieVluit:


EVERYONE denied:

1. That it had crashed; and
2. That the beheaded pilot was a NAF man.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/confusion-beheading-air-force-pilot-captured-killed/

You get your facts straight. Seeing as you are the one in the mood of posting about retrievals, was the jet retrieved?

What an Olodo. Where did they refute the fact that the Jet was lost? Wasn't it the NAF that reported one of their Alpha Jets missing? What they were denying was the photograph which was super-imposed, as such, they denied it was the actual pilot.

“The picture of a man beheaded in the video is superimposed,” he said without elaborating. “Our plane is still missing and we are looking for it. Boko Haram is just making unfounded claims.” - See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/confusion-beheading-air-force-pilot-captured-killed/#sthash.aIk96aqW.dpuf

Why on earth can't I post a tweet about the UAV's retrieval if that was what happened?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:10pm On Jan 30, 2015
DieVluit:


EVERYONE denied:

1. That it had crashed; and
2. That the beheaded pilot was a NAF man.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/confusion-beheading-air-force-pilot-captured-killed/

You get your facts straight. Seeing as you are the one in the mood of posting about retrievals, was the jet retrieved?
how can a crashed jet be retrieved?.you should try using your custard filled skull,and stop embarrasing yourself.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:14pm On Jan 30, 2015
EVarn:
how can a crashed jet be retrieved?.you should try using your custard filled skull,and stop embarrasing yourself.

Crashed jets are retried all the time. You could use a helicopter or truck to get it done.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:21pm On Jan 30, 2015
mzilakazi:



Pirates know well that SAN is not a park where you can just walk over with impunity. We really do not need an OPV to send a strong message to them.

There is no wealth and riches inside your poverty stricken oceans to attract sea pirates, thieves don't go to where there is nothing valuable to steal. Transfer Angola's oil and gas wealth to South African ocean and swarms of pirates will relocate to your backyard.....then you get screwed, your navy has no Stealth OPV, Stealth MPV, Stealth IPV, High Speed sea interceptors, MPA high endurance aircraft with ISTAR capabilities....then you will know why Nigeria bought 300 anti-piracy vessels instead of Frigates and Submarines
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 6:25pm On Jan 30, 2015
andrewza:


Crashed jets are retried all the time. You could use a helicopter or truck to get it done.
so you want our troops to enter into a terrorist occupied territory simply to retrieve a crashed jet.even the US cant just waltz majestically into rebel-controlled eastern ukraine simply to retrieve the crashed malaysian plane.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 6:33pm On Jan 30, 2015
EVarn:
how can a crashed jet be retrieved?.you should try using your custard filled skull,and stop embarrasing yourself.

Its not about the jet fool. Its about the pilot. Or Nigeria doesnt mind letting its pilots rot in the wreckage or even attempt to rescue them while they're alive.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:33pm On Jan 30, 2015
agaugust:


There is no wealth and riches inside your poverty stricken oceans to attract sea pirates, thieves don't go to where there is nothing valuable to steal. Transfer Angola's oil and gas wealth to South African ocean and swarms of pirates will relocate to your backyard.....then you get screwed, your navy has no Stealth OPV, Stealth MPV, Stealth IPV, High Speed sea interceptors, MPA high endurance aircraft with ISTAR capabilities....then you will know why Nigeria bought 300 anti-piracy vessels instead of Frigates and Submarines
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We got some of biggests ports I. Africa and tones of trade. I mean when we sail you can not see massive cargo ships. All the time. And not even that far out. So your first point is a clear sighing you a A don't know what you talking about or B that you don't care.

Have you seen a warrior class strike craft. They don't need to be stealth. They all ready small. Has for IPVs, technically that not the job of our navy. DAFF, nastional parks, SARS and the police Handel that. Even the current T crafts of the navy where not bought to be IPVs but air sea rescue launches for the air force. They do patrol work because they bought and paid for but there old job is no longer needed.


We do have MPAs. The turbor daks.


We all so have high speed intoception boats. With the navy and special forces.


The job of SAN is war. Anti piracy is somtbing we do on the side.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:41pm On Jan 30, 2015
EVarn:
so you want our troops to enter into a terrorist occupied territory simply to retrieve a crashed jet.even the US cant just waltz majestically into rebel-controlled eastern ukraine simply to retrieve the crashed malaysian plane.


Are you saying BH is armetd with tanks, arty, long range SAM and other high end wepeons like the rebels in Ukraine who are backed by Russia?



You have helicopters.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/W_1c7awb57SObarGSxEUSLrb2ks6HxMdgZhDOPZTGd5EV9bmo1W1dXBJam8UQgutFfJb4iCz1eoVmLT9XIrZEP9yFRgECesuPzPVNebL0eHM2E8wvWF4cYoQy5yn2SvsT-R2nxqgrfTtaQ=w313-h470-nc


Why would America recover a crashed airlin that was not there's.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:42pm On Jan 30, 2015
saengine:


Its not about the jet fool. Its about the pilot. Or Nigeria doesnt mind letting its pilots rot in the wreckage or even attempt to rescue them while they're alive.


They tried to cover up the loss. So I would say they don't care.

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